Ron Suskind Must be the only real journalist left in this country but I guess its just the "Way of the World"
By Ron Suskind
What just happened? Evidence. A secret that has been judiciously kept for five years just spilled out. All of what follows is new, never reported in any way:
The Iraq Intelligence Chief, Tahir Jalil Habbush -- a man still carrying a $1 million reward for capture, the Jack of Diamonds in Bush's famous deck of wanted men -- has been America's secret source on Iraq. Starting in January of 2003, with Blair and Bush watching, his secret reports began to flow to officials on both sides of the Atlantic, saying that there were no WMD and that Hussein was acting so odd because of fear that the Iranians would find out he was a toothless tiger. The U.S. deep-sixed the intelligence report in February, "resettled" Habbush to a safe house in Jordan during the invasion and then paid him $5 million in what could only be considered hush money.
In the fall of 2003, after the world learned there were no WMD -- as Habbush had foretold -- the White House ordered the CIA to carry out a deception. The mission: create a handwritten letter, dated July, 2001, from Habbush to Saddam saying that Atta trained in Iraq before the attacks and the Saddam was buying yellow cake for Niger with help from a "small team from the al Qaeda organization."
The mission was carried out, the letter was created, popped up in Baghdad, and roiled the global newcycles in December, 2003 (conning even venerable journalists like Tom Brokaw). The mission is a statutory violation of the charter of the CIA, and amendments added in 1991, prohibiting the CIA from conducting disinformation campaigns on U.S. soil.
So, here we go again: the administration is in full attack mode, calling me names, George Tenet is claiming he doesn't remember any such thing -- just like he couldn't remember "slam dunk" -- and reporters are scratching their heads. Everything in my book is on the record, with many sources. And so, we watch and wait....
There will be more falling by the wayside after this book is read and there may be an impeachment in the works. Wait there already is! This will give it lots of strength. If you are a patriotic American write all of your congressmen/women and senators and ask them what's up with this.
Barack's Beliefs
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Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 08/08/2008 1:18:47 PM
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Posted By: CaptJimH @ 08/08/2008 1:02:35 PM
This is about the first thing I have read in the national media that deals with the complexity of the religious issues surrounding Barack Obama. As a Christian, I have always taken for granted that there is no absolute certainty, no infallible pope or bible, always a need to search, to question, to doubt. I like open-mindedness. I like people who entertain various points of view. I like those who are willing to accept that important things are generally complex, and cannot be captured in phrases and sound-bites and other simplicities.
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Posted By: Omaar @ 08/08/2008 12:47:56 PM
ABOARD THE STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS (CNN) ??? John McCain, who rarely talks about his faith publicly, discussed some of his religious beliefs with reporters Wednesday - including the question of whether he might consider being baptized again.
The presumptive Republican nominee talked with journalists traveling with him from Kentucky to West Virginia about his home congregation, North Phoenix Baptist Church.
"Pastor Dan Yeary has a message I enjoy and appreciate," he said, adding that he and his family have "grown close to [Yeary] over the years" and that he tried to attend services at the church whenever he was home in Arizona.
"The message that Dan Yeary conveys of Christian love and redemption is one that I welcome," said McCain. "And I'm always spiritually helped and assisted when I attend those church services, as I think most Americans are when they attend church services."
The Arizona senator, who was raised an Episcopalian, has attended North Phoenix for nearly two decades, but is not a member because he has not been baptized into the church.
On Wednesday, he told reporters that he had been Baptized in Panama, where he was BORN, and talked about a photo in his memoirs of himself as a baby in a baptismal gown, with his father and grandfather.
"It's like a dress," he chuckled.
Note: Thats not the same thing at all and Mccain knows it Too. He's a Free will agent and of legal Age, to make this Decision, oppose to being an infant, with no Choice.
But he was more GAURDED about his CURRENT PLANSwith regard to BAPTISM, calling them "a PRIVATE THING."
John McCain: "I've been in discussions with Pastor Yeary, and we'll continue those discussions," he said. "It's a personal thing, it's a very personal thing concerning my faith and I am proud of my faith, I am proud of my belief and the sustenance and the redemption that I have received
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Posted By: notso @ 08/08/2008 12:01:28 PM
Whala, you are horribly ignorant. Do you call the fire department when your house is burning down? Do you call 911 when you need help? Have you ever attended public shcools? If yes, welcome to socialism! Not only do you misrepresent Obama's views, you do not mention Romney's membership to one of the most racist religous organizations in US history. Nice try at the scare tactic. Go find some moron to buy into your garbage!
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Posted By: whala @ 08/08/2008 12:39:23 PM
What in the world does Romney's religious membership have to do with my views of Obama? The only thing I said about Romney is that the evangelicals are intolerant of his religion, and thereby demonstrate that they are not so Cristian as they profess.
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Posted By: Omaar @ 08/08/2008 12:33:41 PM
Note: I've Noticed like I've Noticed Hillary Clinton, during her campaign...
John McCain... DOES NOT WEAR A FLAG PIN AT ALL, YET BARACK WAS FORCED TO WEAR A FLAG PIN, AT ALL TIMES !! YET YOU RACE MONGERS, SAY NOT A WORD ABOUT THIS OBVIOUS AND GLARING DISCREPENCY..
OH SO OBVIOUS AND MCCAIN'S WIFE, WEARS THE ABSOLUTE (TEENY TINIEST PIN FLAG)
No Concerns about Jon "Semi-Senile" McCain's Attending an Arz. Baptist Church, though he Refuses to be Baptized and is Not Listed as a member because of his REFUSAL to be Baptized, saying "Its a Personal Matter"
When being Baptized requires ONLY being Dunked in Water 1-3 Times !!!
Thats a Personal Matter ...Huh
Yet John "Semi-Senile" McCain is a "Christian"
Bull-Spit !!!
Had this been Reversed an this was Barack Obama....
He's This, He's That, He's a Muslim, He's the Anti-Christ !!
Every Damn 4-8 Years You "Un-Holy Low Lifes" claim to know who the Beast, The Anti-Christ & The False Prophet is ?
You A$$ Holes, those listed above are all Different and None of them are going to be American anyway or be in this Hemisphere.
Better look to Israel, Middle East, Turkey, Persia, Pakistan & E.India .
Hawaii is America, Not the Countries listed above...Sorry.
You Race Mongers just don't want an Afro-American as President and are SCARED TO DEATH of the REALITY !!!
Its Hillarious to READ and SEE !!!
You should've been Scared To Death of those Maniac-Death Dealing Lunatics George W. Bush, D!ck Cheney and Condoleeza Rice !!!
Yet You are Petrified to Death of Barack Obama.....
You are Bonafide Race Mongers...Period
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Posted By: Omaar @ 08/08/2008 12:27:33 PM
Democrat..Republican...Libertarian...
Liberal...Conservative...Nationalist....
The Biggest Hustle, The Biggest Scam, The Biggest Con, Perpetrated on the American Masses.
All Political parties are Controled by David Rockefeller via his (CFR)
The Council On Foreign Relations
David Rockefeller is an Unashamed, Unapologetic Capitalist and Socialist and he and his Familiy are the True Rulers of this Land and theres not a Damn Thing You Conservative, Liberals and Nationalist can do about it.
David Rockefeller Controls Both Democratic & Republican Parties and he'll Soo fimd a way to Control the Libertarians also.
Note: Both John McCain & Barack Obama are members of the (Council On Foreign Relatyions) better known as the CFR....
Sorry, You Programed Robots, the Jokes on ...YOU !!!
David Rockefeller and his Familiy Rule this Country and Both Mr. Fox News Owner Rupert Murdoch and also Warren Buffett are Both Intellects & Capitalist and they Both Support Barack Obama.
The CFR is about Intellect, Bloodlines, Socialism and Capitalism all Combined.
Hey, Dummies Better PDF File "The Patriot Act" all Your Privacy Rights are Gone.
You are Constantly Under Survelance (Watched) via Cameras, Your EMail, WebSite Visits, Phone Calls are Monitored and Now more than Ever and all granted by the "Patriot Act"
Note: Most of Your Western European Countries are in Fact (Socialist Governments) India and S. Korea are Socialist too.-
Posted By: neocon @ 08/08/2008 12:32:50 PM
Oh man Omaar your so amusing.
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Posted By: obamasuxx @ 08/08/2008 8:36:46 AM
As a true evangelical I find this article laughable. True evangelicals do not believe "some of it (scriptures) might be of human origin, and some scriptures may be of more weight than others." It is the Word of God..period..
Obama already has the mindless minions on the left voting for him so they do not count. Conservative Evangelicals are not idiots and have taken the time to learn the truth about this man. We know all about the hateful church church that he has attended for the last 20 years, yet he claims to not have known what was going on there?? We know all about his pro-abortion stance.
You guys in the media can try to polish his religious resume all you want but we know the truth...We know you have been falling all over yourselves to worship at his feet and prop up his image. Seriously, do not count on any "red state" Christians voting for him at all...especially here in Ohio as the "buzz" about him is not good at all.-
Posted By: notso @ 08/08/2008 12:22:58 PM
obamasuxx, please tell me how many commandments there are? If you said 10, you are poorly educated in your own beliefs. The answer is 613. Please tell me how breaking the first commandment makes you close to god? There is only One there buddy, not two or three.
Please do not refer to someone elses church as "hateful" when your own church represents homophobia, racism, anti-semitism, and nascar. Don't you have some books to burn and some creationism to teach?
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/08/2008 6:36:27 AM
Hussein's beliefs.....reading carefully reveals a lot....hmmm...let's look at some excerpts in this book....................
"If Obama wins, he will be the first president not raised a Christian"
"Obama spent his early years under the influence of atheism and folk Islam "
"Obama's step father was Muslim. He moved the family to Indonesia."
"In Indonesia, Obama would occasionaly attend a mosque."
"In Trinity Church, Obama was seeking a community of shared values"
"Obama isn't sure about a traditional view of eternal punishment "
And let's finish with a quote from The One......"A year ago, Nicholas Kristoff, in the New York Times, wrote, "???In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it???ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as ???one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.??????
A mohammed in the White House??? GOD Forbid...And HE has...
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Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/08/2008 9:15:56 AM
None of those cherry-picked excerpts say anything about Obama being a muslim. Many people attend church while young, then convert to judaism or another religion. Obama's STEPFATHER was muslim. And? I've attended Jewish temples to celebrate a bar/bat mitzvah, does that make me Jewish?
You know, many Christians aren't sure about eternal punishment, does that make them Muslim?
Oh and even though all of your statements are false--what's so wrong with Muslims? It's one of the major 3 religions in the world...millions upon millions follow its teachings. Do we have millions of terrorists? Absolutely not. Seems to me that right-wing Christians are more wacko than most Muslims. What about the guy that just shot everyone in that Tennessee church? What about the Phelps clan? What about the Salem witch trials, the Holocaust, and the Inquisition? Hmmmm???-
Posted By: emmarcee @ 08/08/2008 11:09:31 AM
Just look at Europe and wherever else Islam has spread into and LEARN.
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Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/08/2008 12:14:22 PM
Exactly. Europe enjoys a higher education rate, lower crime rate, and stronger currency.
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Posted By: ejohnsonmtg @ 08/08/2008 8:28:27 AM
You say he will be the first President not to be christian, but the early presidents were slave owners, raping the slaves, stealing land and killing Indians. Please this country was founded in gross sin, but as always we like to not talk about that. Where is GOD in all of that?
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Posted By: Omaar @ 08/08/2008 12:00:54 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal
Piyush Jindal: Was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, to recently arrived Punjabi Indian immigrants Amar and Raj Jindal, who were attending graduate school.
His father left India and his ancestral family village of Khanpura in 1970. His mother, Raj Jindal, is an information technology director for the Louisiana Department of Labor.
According to family lore, Jindal ADOPTED the name "Bobby" from the character Bobby Brady after watching The Brady Bunch television series at age four. He has BEEN KNOWN by that NAME EVER SINCE.
As a Cvil servant, Politician, Student, and Writer, THOUGH LEGALLY HIS NAME REMAINS...PIYUSH JINDAL !!!
This Man is using an adopted Nick Name as his REAL NAME and this Man is in LINE to run as McCain's VP !!
Jindal Converted to Roman Catholicism after a 15 Years of Practising Hinduism an still Holds fast to those Vegetarian Beliefs and also believes he's Excorcised a Demon from a Man....
Plus Fat Slob Republican Propogandist, Rush Limbaugh says he will be the next President of the USA
Jindal was a Hindu, but Converted to Catholicism in HIGH SCHOOL. He has also offered his religious testimony before Baptist and Pentecostal congregations.[6] He attended public school at Baton Rouge Magnet High School and graduated when he was 17.
Following High School, Jindal enrolled, and eventually graduated, from Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, with honors in biology and public policy. Afterwards, he received a master's degree in political science from New College, Oxford, as a Rhodes Scholar.
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Posted By: mariadcruze @ 08/08/2008 10:45:07 AM
obama has better christian values than mcidiot and has more family values than mcidiot. Mcain is a nostic.The republican party did not do any thing good for america they got us into dept, a war that was unnecessary, that made us the most unliked country over seas. They are to blame for every thing that is going wrong. If you vote for mcbush it going to be the same site for another four years hopefully the old man will die before the election. Most american are jobless and the job market suck. that's why I am voting for change obama 08,12 do you hope?
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Posted By: whala @ 08/08/2008 11:59:22 AM
Maria, congratulations, you are a true liberal. Why consider the possibility that the Democrats could have a share of the responsibility when it's so much easier to simply blame the Republicans? I'm not sure what hope you are hoping for, but I can guarantee that with such an idealistic view, you are sure to be disappointed no matter what happens.
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Posted By: emmarcee @ 08/08/2008 11:03:57 AM
what is nostic, Maria?
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Posted By: cjkrew @ 08/08/2008 11:29:10 AM
emmarcee - the author of this new book is a conserative!
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Posted By: Omaar @ 08/08/2008 7:55:35 AM
4. Benjamin Franklin
In an essay on "Toleration," Franklin wrote:
"If we look back into history for the character of the present sects in Christianity, we shall find FEW that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution.
The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practiced it on one another.
The first Protestants of the Church of England blamed persecution in the Romish church, but practiced it upon the Puritans. These found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here [England] and in New England."
Dr. Priestley, an intimate friend of Franklin, wrote of him:
"It is much to be Lamented that a Man of Franklin's General Good Character and Great Influence should have been an UNBELIEVER in CHRISTIANITY, and also have done as much as he did to make OTHERS UNBELIEVERS" (Priestley''s Autobiography)
Benjamin Franklin Continued...
Although Franklin received religious training, his Nature Forced him to Rebel Against the Irrational Tenets of His Parents Christianity.
His Autobiography revels his skepticism, "My Parents had given me betimes Religions Impressions & I received from my Infancy a Pious Education in the Principles of Calvinism.
But scarcely was I arrived at 15 years of age, when, after having doubted in turn of Different Tenets, according as I found them Combated in the different books that I read, I began to doubt of Revelation itself.
". . . Some books against Deism fell into my hands. . .
It happened that they had an effect on me, quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me MUCH STRONGER than the Refutations; in short,
I soon became a through Deist."
In an essay on "Toleration," Franklin wrote:
5. Thomas Paine
This Freethinker and Author of Several books, influenced more early Americans than any other writer.
Although he held Deist beliefs, he wrote in his famous The Age of Reason:
"I do not believe in the Creed Professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of.
My Own mind is my Church. "
"Of all the systems of Religion that ever were invented, there is no more Derogatory to the Almighty, more Unedifiying to man, more Repugnant to reason, and more Contradictory to itself than this thing called (Christianity). "-
Posted By: emmarcee @ 08/08/2008 11:08:02 AM
the cut and paste party.
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Posted By: Omaar @ 08/08/2008 9:06:08 AM
Most so You Called "Evangelicals" are the Most Racist & Seperatist Groups ever and have the Audacity to call yourselves "Christian" !!
Yet Call Obama's Former Church, which just so Happens to have an Overall Majority (White Membership)
Black Liberation Theology: To be Independent, Industrious, Responsible, Self Respecting and Becoming a Vital part of America's Landscape.
Sounds Good to me.
No such Writings of Killing White Americans or Lynching White Americans.
No Forbidding Black White Marriages-Unions.
regarding, The Nation Of Islam, that Organization also Accepts Black-White Marriages as well.
The Nation Of Islam is Not Listed on the Terrorist List....Sorry
There are Thousands of U.S Muslim American Soldiers....Fact
It is the So Called White American Christian World, that are Guilty of Seperation based on Race, Lynchings, Hate Mongering and yet call themselves "Christians"
PS: Call me when you get a Recording of Rev. Wright saying "God Damn, White America"
Wright said God "Damn America" Not "God Damn White America" as in the Government in what they've done to cause such Hatefilled Sentiment, from Not just one Country but from Many Countries, Including Europe, who do not Love Us, based on Our International Bullying and Imposing our Will on Others. The Last time i looked, America Consist of Many Races, Religions, Atheist, Agnostics and Indifferent Towards all of it.
He Said "God Damn America" Not "God Damn White America"
You White Racist are So Damn Desperate to call Wright a Racist an Attach Obama to Wright, and this was Your Opening...It has Not Worked....Sorry
China: Told Bush Jr. Yesterday to Mind his own Business and he should, who is Bush to talk of Human Rights, after Invading a Country, that had NOTHING to do with (911) and being Responsible for Over 1 Million Iraqi Deaths, Over 5,000 Honr. US Deaths, Thousands of Permamently Injured Soldiers, Thousands of Dismembered -Forced Amputations of Honr. US Soldiers , not to mention Suicides and Attempted Suicides & Hundreds of Self Inflicted Wounds by our US Soldiers Own Hands !!!-
Posted By: emmarcee @ 08/08/2008 11:07:27 AM
Go back to the hole you crawled out from, may be .. Pakistan? India?
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Posted By: Omaar @ 08/08/2008 10:48:38 AM
Piyush Jindal: Was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, to recently arrived Punjabi Indian immigrants Amar and Raj Jindal, who were attending graduate school. His father left India and his ancestral family village of Khanpura in 1970. His mother, Raj Jindal, is an information technology director for the Louisiana Department of Labor.
According to family lore, JindalADOPTED the name "Bobby" from the character Bobby Brady after watching The Brady Bunch television series at age four. He has BEEN KNOWN by that NAME EVER SINCE???as a civil servant, politician, student, and writer???THOUGH LEGALLY HIS NAME REMAINS...PIYUSH JINDAL !!!
This Man is using an adopted Nick Name as his REAL NAME and this Man is in LINE to run as McCain's VP, Jindal Converted to Roman Catholicism after a 15 Years of Practising Hinduism an still Holds fast to those Vegetarian Beliefs and also believes he's Excorcised a Demon from a Man....
Plus Fat Slob Republican Propogandist, Rush Limbaugh says he will be the next President of the USA
Jindal was a Hindu, but converted to Catholicism in high school.[5] He has also offered his religious testimony before Baptist and Pentecostal congregations.[6] He attended public school at Baton Rouge Magnet High School and graduated when he was 17. Following high school, Jindal enrolled, and eventually graduated, from Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, with honors in biology and public policy. Afterwards, he received a master's degree in political science from New College, Oxford, as a Rhodes Scholar.-
Posted By: emmarcee @ 08/08/2008 10:56:01 AM
are n't you one of those Hiindus angry at Jindal for forsaking his father's faith. I have read a lot of Indian blogs on it. If he wanted to change his faith what is your problem with that? Jindal is open about his stand and this story is not new to his constituency.
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Posted By: emmarcee @ 08/08/2008 10:47:39 AM
Are n't we get a little too tired of these Obama specials? Is liberal media bothered about his "faith"? It does not give the punch like it did in Febrauary.
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Posted By: Cates @ 08/08/2008 10:38:22 AM
By definition, faith is a belief that is held despite the absence supporting evidence, or in many cases, conflicting evidence. In short, faith is a lie you tell yourself and a deceptive wrong inflicted on others.
Obama needs to drop his religion at the door. As a Bright, I can???t vote for a man that actually appears to have faith in gods, Santa, or fairies. Imaginary friends are for children and schizophrenics. Irrational beliefs are a sign of mental instability and immaturity.
Join the Enlightenment at www.the-brights.net
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Posted By: Omaar @ 08/08/2008 10:35:57 AM
Barack Obama is Blood Related to the Following White Presidents and Other White Leaders.
1. George Bush Sr and Jr. 10-11th Cousins
2. D!ck Cheney 8th Cousin
3. Harry S. Truman
4. Gerald Ford
5. Lyndon B. Johnson
6. Winston Churchill
7. General Robert E. Lee, (Confederate)
8. Brad Pitt, 8Th Cousin
Some of You Low Lifes are the Lowest Life Forms on the Planet Earth.
Some of You would'nt know Your Ear Holes from Your A$$ Holes, if someone did'nt Distinguish the 2 for You.
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Posted By: Obama Drama @ 08/08/2008 9:27:59 AM
omg - ARE YOU serious????????? He will never get the Evangelical vote. Come on. MSNBC has gone way out there now. It's not bad enough that O's picture and a headline of him appear everyday on this web site - Now they are resorting to bull or hoodwinking.
I lve McCain's new ad where all the Dems - Obama himself,Dasuel,Kerry and Clinton and a lot more Dems are singing McCain's praise. I love that ad. I think it is one of the best. He as come up with some funny ones like the parting of the seas, hilton but this newest is the best.
GO MCCAIN - A TRUE AMERICAN-
Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/08/2008 10:09:57 AM
I find it sad and pathetic that McCain doesn't bring any substance to the table, but must instead rely on bashing Obama. He seems less concerned with winning by an honest effort and more concerned about winning by default--"If I make the other guy look bad, I'll look good in comparision!" I'm glad Obama has the dignity and intelligence to rise about those shameful tactics.
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Posted By: cjkrew @ 08/08/2008 9:57:21 AM
Alfred - I couldn't agree more. You need to be a Christian in order to be president in this country. I guess the fore fathers forgot to add that qualificaiton to the constitution while they writing it. I guess 95% of the people in this country forgot about little the constitutional law of seperation of church and state.
Correct me if I am wrong isn't one of the reason for the revolutionary war was relgious freedom.
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Posted By: use123 @ 08/08/2008 9:49:32 AM
Is America the most racist country in the world that if you are muslim and born here you can,t be president?
Hmmmm! that's strange. Where is that fredom of religion in America?
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