A Catharsis in Denver?

Comment: Comment: I have been, I guess the word is lurking around these boards for a while, I have posted a few times before but I prefer reading the posts, and I have to say that the level of rage amoung some Clinton supporters is absolutely horrible. There is no logic behind this, at this time in US history, they are choosing to vote for someone who will continue to lead us on the path that we have been on for the last 8 years. Shame on you. I to voted for Sen. Clinton during the primaries and was very upset that she didn't win, but it was a contest. True there were quite a bit of sexism and racisim being thrown around, but we really need to work to get past this. The goal, for me at least, is to make sure that John McCain out of the white House.

I did notice one blogger in particular that appears to have multiple personalities and runs around growling and foaming at the mouth at others like a rabid Chihuahua. All of her posts are extremely condescending and deliberately vicious for no reason. She claims to be a Clinton supporter, but the Hillary Clinton that I supported would be ashamed to call this person one of her base. This person goes by the following tag names;

123waz
zrrr
legume
xczy14
what?

In my opinion this person is just an angry woman spitting her venom because that is all she has. I shall name her Sybil the multi-personality angry Chihuahua!

ALTER: So what are your thoughts on Clinton being on the ballot? It seems the tide is turning...

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If Hillary Clinton is the top of the ticket i will vote for her,otherwise i will vote for Mcaine,these are tough times and we need to protect ourselves,hillery clinton has the tanasity and the knowhow to get us out of this mess we are in,she is smarter than bill,the world is a chess game and we need her,we dont want another cold war that could turn into the third world war,our national guard is over seas and our armed forces are here at home,a big stick will settel everything down,we just need to apply it and get everyone onboard,hillary makes no bones about it,i hope she is our presedent,she will get the job done quickley and we will be out of the mess we are now in,you cant say please to the restt off the world!

Clinton supporters continue to be very concerned about how inexperienced and unprepared Obama is to be President, irate about the way the media and the DNC intervened to ensure Obama won, and stunned by the way they???ve been responded to (or not) by the Obama camp and his on-line supporters. ???Discussion??? on the blogs over these issues has been heated and intense.

In response to Hillary supporters who believe that she is the still better candidate, Obama supporters have consistently referred to anyone who disagrees with them as racist, stupid, evil, in league with the devil, old, hags, conservative plants, etc. And Obama, too, has been very dismissive of Hillary supporters, doing almost nothing to reach out and try to bring us into the fold. This is arrogance and an enormous mistake on his part. He???s showing the kind of President he will be though the choices he???s already made on these issues; including not offering Hillary the VP spot, when she clearly earned it. As people have been pointed out, this could conceivably cost him the election.

All of this only increases my doubts about Obama. If he doesn???t have the maturity and perspective to see these problems and attend to them, if he???s unable to bring all Democrats together and establish the unity and hope in his own party that he supposedly stands for, if he can???t be bothered reaching out to address the valid concerns of the older women and working class voters who favor Hillary and work to secure our votes, and if he and his handlers are unable to influence and control the way his camp behaves in the public arena toward Hillary supporters, how will he ever manage the critical, mind-boggling responsibilities he???ll face as President, given the damage done these past 8 years?

He has to earn people???s trust and votes and frankly, he needs Hillary voters far more than we need him. Obama has done a very poor job of dealing with all of these problems. This demonstrates what Hillary supporters have been saying all along: he???s not ready to be President and isn???t the right person to get the nomination. There is a growing consensus that Clinton should be the nominee. Given these concerns and Obama???s inexperience, I think Hillary???s name should be placed in nomination and she should get the nomination.

This is one voter who will not be goose stepping in line to vote for him in November. In fact, increased attempts to continue bashing Hillary and manipulate the public will only increase my determination to do what I believe is right. I hope it will also alienate other Hillary supporters and cost Obama millions of votes in November.

Celebrity phony leader - created by bootlicking media, who accused Hillary of playing Gender card is crying foul playing Race card. The no sense guy who accused Hillary of Flip Flopping after over a period of observations Hillary changed her position on Iraq (when 9/11 panic mode idrained away from all leaders) is shamelessly flipping and flopping to glory every minute on every issue he touches; shame on Barack.. Is Barack man enough to apologize to Hillary ? before asking Hillary supporters votes???. & by the way he is no match for the partriotic McCain. I am one Democrat who will vote for Mccain for sure..

Mr. Obama. We are all watching how you handle this Medussa. If you cannnot defend youself against her....we will conclude that you cannot protect and defend US. Right now, it is hard to believe that you will allow BOTH Mr. Clinton and Mrs. Clinton to speak at the convention.

"The best outcome for Democrats would be for a President Obama to send Bill Clinton to the Middle East next year as his special envoy."

The best outcome for Democrats woutld be for a President Obama to send Bill Clinton to Mars.

Bill is poison, has been for some time, and getting worse. I could almost live with Hilary if it wasn't for Bill, and would have voted for her instead of Obama if she had divorced Bill years ago.

As it is now, she is just continuing to make a mess of her reputation - she gains nothing by allowing the democratic party to stay in a state of turmoil.

Hilary? Honey? I'm very sorry, but you lost.

NOW GET OVER IT!!!

Davole: As a woman I am continually mystified as to how so many intelligent women can be blind on this issue:

Whining about "sexism rampant in the media" is exactly the kind of ammunition unenlightened people use to continue to discredit women. It just reinforces the stereotype of us as creatures ruled by emotion who can't remain rational. Were there inappropriate comments made during her campaign? Yes, but so what. Life isn't fair, stop making believe that it is. Ignorant people will always say ignorant things. Rise above it.

A woman's strength comes from her own knowlege about who she is and where her personal power truly lies, not from external approval from men or her children. Women who are truly strong within themselves, like Golda Meir, like Margaret Thatcher, pay no attention to the unenlightened squawking of weak-minded men - why did Hilary? Why do we?

Hilary was a victim of nothing. She took her best shot and she lost, not because she was uppity, not because the males of the party found her threatening, not because the male media was misogynist, but because she is deeply and badly flawed. She got where she is because of who she married. Yes, she worked her tail off once she got there (the senate) but if she wasn't Mrs. William Clinton, she couldn't have been elected Dog Catcher of Hope, Arkansas, regardless of her background as an attorney.

As a number of people in this post have noted, Bill Clinton is an untreated addict, and Hilary Clinton is an untreated co-dependent. I could not vote for her primarily because she cannot separate herself from the flawed individual she married. I would have had more respect for her if she had divorced him years ago, although as a mother, I totally understand why she didn't.

If Obama loses in November, then he loses. But if you truly think Hilary would have won except for the misogynist party bosses and sexist male media, you are living in a dream world. The American electorate as a whole would not have chosen her - she has too many of the same character defects as Bush - the misguided loyalty, the arrogance, and the badly codependent feelings of inadequacy that force them both to continually try and prove to the world they are really good little children. Yes, she's much smarter than Bush (who isn't!) and her political ideology is more liberal, but they are both dangerous loose cannons.

If we as a gender are going to take our place in the national spotlight we need to do it from a place of strength, not weakness. I, for one, am damn grateful that our first female presiden won't be Hilary Clinton.

We can do so much better.

I like the Greek Drama label. Hillary missed her calling. She would have made the best soap opera star in history. The word she used for her convention farewell, "catharsis" , has to help to confirm this, since the heart of its meaning is to permit millions of her supporters to engage in "the process of releasing, and thereby providing relief from, strong or repressed emotions". She just can't turn them loose and wants to keep owning those votes until they are torn from her cold dead hands. If that ain't soap, then what is? The trouble with this soap is that it doesn't wash the dirt from the damage that it will do to the democratic party's chances of victory in November.