A Catharsis in Denver?

josesmarti is a good one too talk about standing up. Why don't you standup and criticize your G OLD P for sending troops to die in a war cooked up by your party and it's leaders you idolize. COWARD! Your boy McCain is already losing by more than 100 electoral votes. Are you worried that Clinton being on board will sink the republican's ship for years to come. When will you desert marti? Before or after the convention?

Mr. Obama. You have to assert yourself. Bill Clinton should NOT be allowed to speak the same night as your VP candidate. He will upstage him. Not only that, ANY appearance by Bill Clinton undermines your message of CHANGE. Why can't you stand up to these people? What is wrong with you? Yes, by standind up to them you might loose the vote of some of their crazed supporters, but you stand to gain the vote of the much larger number of undecideds who are looking for signs that you are not another pushover like Kerry.

Stop using Hillary to generate interest on Obama now that Obama is losing the polls.
We Hillary Loyalists would never vote for him. NEVER. See the difference? Once you get to know Hillary, you actually like her for being so strong and you stay with her. The only people who hates her or campaigns about hating her is the Republican mean machine and the African Americans who is sooo racists that they would never vote for a white person, if an incompetent African is on the table.

Everyone with a piece of a brain knows that Jonathan Alter is enamored with Obama. How many positive articles has he written about Obama? How many negative? Now ask yourself the same question, only substitute the name McCain. How about trying the question with the name Hillary Clinton?

See what I mean?

I have a solution.
Sen. Stevens was indicted for taking in kind kickbacks.
Clinton voted for the Iraq War, and campaigned to extend the US security umbrella to the UAE while she & her husband received millions from a partnership (Yucaipa) with the Emir of Dubai and reported this as ">$1,000" on her disclosure forms.
The discrepancy between Clinton's tax returns & the disclosure forms has been obvious since April.
Surely with all the law school summer interns out there to do the grunt work some US attorney can get her indicted before the convention.
It would be a great servce to the country and the people of NY State.
We would be rid of the Walmart Evita once & for all and maybe some women who had qualifications to lead other than being married to Bill Clinton could come to the fore.

antifish -- at least you're been clear about your association, not posing as a Clinton supporter.

But what rules are you talking about that were broken on Obama's behalf? Clinton wanted Michigan's election to be counted, even though Edwards and Obama took their names off the ballot prior to the vote out of respect for the DNC's determination that Michigan had violated rules by attempting to change their election date, and the DNC penalized Michigan by invalidating their election. These are rules that Clinton's advisors helped to create prior to the election.

when it became clear that Clinton was losing in the primary process she tried to make the results of that election count: Clinton 599300, undeclared 304930 -- or whatever the numbers were -- claiming all these votes she had earned for herself (and of course zero for Obama), and claiming that this was in some way a fair representation of the will of the voters. That's a big sham, obviously, and if you, as someone who favors McCain, have to resort to this sort of argument to benefit your candidate, isn't that saying your candidate has no valid argument to make for himself?

The best catharsis is for Hillary to declare publicly to the world that she lost, fair and square. Then she and her supporters can step aside and go to work for the winner. As long as she allows her supporters to believe she lost because Obama didn't treat her right or because his campaign was somehow sexist or because the party didn't change the rules for her benefit in Michigan and Florida, or because the media were biased against her, she is hurting the Democratic Party. The reason Clinton lost is because Obama organized in the caucus states and she didn't. Period. End of Story.

Ron Suskind Must be the only real journalist left in this country but I guess its just the "Way of the World"


By Ron Suskind
What just happened? Evidence. A secret that has been judiciously kept for five years just spilled out. All of what follows is new, never reported in any way:

The Iraq Intelligence Chief, Tahir Jalil Habbush -- a man still carrying a $1 million reward for capture, the Jack of Diamonds in Bush's famous deck of wanted men -- has been America's secret source on Iraq. Starting in January of 2003, with Blair and Bush watching, his secret reports began to flow to officials on both sides of the Atlantic, saying that there were no WMD and that Hussein was acting so odd because of fear that the Iranians would find out he was a toothless tiger. The U.S. deep-sixed the intelligence report in February, "resettled" Habbush to a safe house in Jordan during the invasion and then paid him $5 million in what could only be considered hush money.

In the fall of 2003, after the world learned there were no WMD -- as Habbush had foretold -- the White House ordered the CIA to carry out a deception. The mission: create a handwritten letter, dated July, 2001, from Habbush to Saddam saying that Atta trained in Iraq before the attacks and the Saddam was buying yellow cake for Niger with help from a "small team from the al Qaeda organization."

The mission was carried out, the letter was created, popped up in Baghdad, and roiled the global newcycles in December, 2003 (conning even venerable journalists like Tom Brokaw). The mission is a statutory violation of the charter of the CIA, and amendments added in 1991, prohibiting the CIA from conducting disinformation campaigns on U.S. soil.

So, here we go again: the administration is in full attack mode, calling me names, George Tenet is claiming he doesn't remember any such thing -- just like he couldn't remember "slam dunk" -- and reporters are scratching their heads. Everything in my book is on the record, with many sources. And so, we watch and wait....

There will be more falling by the wayside after this book is read and there may be an impeachment in the works. Wait there already is! This will give it lots of strength. If you are a patriotic American write all of your congressmen/women and senators and ask them what's up with this.

"the ham in a Bush sandwich"?? Heh heh.. that's probably the funniest thing I've heard in a while.

Clinton as envoy to the Middle East sounds good -- wonder if they are talking about this.

wait until they start attacking him directly and not just his policies. He can barely keep up now. Ayers -just guy on my block. Slums- I didn't know sewage was coming out of their sinks. Shown experience.... empty suit.

FEC Investigation of Obama Eligibility
The petition

The signers of this petition request the Federal Elections Commission and Mr. Donald McGahan, FEC chairman, to take responsibility to verify the eligibility of Mr. Barack H. Obama to be President of the United States. Mr. Obama has refused to produce a physical certified, stamped copy of his birth certificate. An electronically-displayed image displayed by his official campaign website has been alleged to be a forgery. We request that the FEC require Mr. Obama to authorize the FEC to obtain an official copy of his birth certificate and if he does not produce the authorization that the FEC reject his registration as a presidential candidate; that the FEC not monitor his campaign finances during the primary or election; that votes cast for Mr. Obama and reported by the states??? boards of elections not be recorded and displayed by the FEC; and that Mr. Obama be considered in violation of 2 USC 437g for filing a false statement on FEC Form 2, as specified on that form.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commss