A Catharsis in Denver?

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  • Posted By: VJHomer @ 08/08/2008 10:08:46 AM

    If Obama had had the guts to name Hillary as VP or offer her an important role in his putative administration, he'd be far ahead of McCain in the polls -- this is clear from current polls in which Hillary as VP gives Obama a sizeable lead, whereas no one else helps him get safely ahead of McCain.

    Hillary's energy proposals would have done far more to wean us from foreign oil than Obama's (who is far too beholden to the corn industry in his lame energy policy). Now Obama is sounding like a McCain clone about offshore drilling, yet Obama is clearly unfamiliar with the huge strides which have been made at DOE in the past years towards making nuclear energy truly, genuinely safe.

    Once we start having debates, I doubt whether McCain will succeed in making Obama look as foolish and unprepared as Hillary did, but Obama is foolish in putting these debates off as long as possible -- his lack of preparation in being able to discuss serious issues is going to have a major impact right when the country is deeply focussed on deciding who to vote for as president.

    Why is it that Thomas Friedman is virtually the only journalist who discusses energy policies and ideas, while everyone else just presents empty blather such as this one about Dem convention gossip?

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 08/08/2008 9:57:32 AM



    Ron Suskind Must be the only real journalist left in this country but I guess its just the "Way of the World"


    By Ron Suskind
    What just happened? Evidence. A secret that has been judiciously kept for five years just spilled out. All of what follows is new, never reported in any way:

    The Iraq Intelligence Chief, Tahir Jalil Habbush -- a man still carrying a $1 million reward for capture, the Jack of Diamonds in Bush's famous deck of wanted men -- has been America's secret source on Iraq. Starting in January of 2003, with Blair and Bush watching, his secret reports began to flow to officials on both sides of the Atlantic, saying that there were no WMD and that Hussein was acting so odd because of fear that the Iranians would find out he was a toothless tiger. The U.S. deep-sixed the intelligence report in February, "resettled" Habbush to a safe house in Jordan during the invasion and then paid him $5 million in what could only be considered hush money.

    In the fall of 2003, after the world learned there were no WMD -- as Habbush had foretold -- the White House ordered the CIA to carry out a deception. The mission: create a handwritten letter, dated July, 2001, from Habbush to Saddam saying that Atta trained in Iraq before the attacks and the Saddam was buying yellow cake for Niger with help from a "small team from the al Qaeda organization."

    The mission was carried out, the letter was created, popped up in Baghdad, and roiled the global newcycles in December, 2003 (conning even venerable journalists like Tom Brokaw). The mission is a statutory violation of the charter of the CIA, and amendments added in 1991, prohibiting the CIA from conducting disinformation campaigns on U.S. soil.

    So, here we go again: the administration is in full attack mode, calling me names, George Tenet is claiming he doesn't remember any such thing -- just like he couldn't remember "slam dunk" -- and reporters are scratching their heads. Everything in my book is on the record, with many sources. And so, we watch and wait....

    There will be more falling by the wayside after this book is read and there may be an impeachment in the works. Wait there already is! This will give it lots of strength. If you are a patriotic American write all of your congressmen/women and senators and ask them what's up with this.


  • Posted By: busby @ 08/08/2008 9:57:22 AM

    The problem with alter's article is that he is accusing Hillary of trying to sabotage the coronation. How? In a democracy it is totally appropriate for the states to cast their delegate votes. It is not appropriate for the extremists in a party to try to strong arm the moderates. I'm all for Hillary's name being put in nomination. If Obama were so wonderful, there wouldn't be the split there is. As for a beginner or anyone else "taking" over the party, that is wishful thinking on the part of the "press" in this country. People have free will, they can think what they want and support who they want. As usual, alter is completely out of line and needs an outlet in which to spew his venom that will not be accessible to so many who are impressionable or who haven't made up their minds. In plain English, the press in this country should report the news period. We don't need them to tell us how to think.

  • Posted By: valwayne @ 08/08/2008 9:41:58 AM

    Obama played the race and sex cards against Hillary over and over during the primaries. He allowed his surrogates to lable "The first black President" a racist as well as the first female VP nominee Geraldine Ferraro. Obama's speeches appear above the fray, but his campaign and poodle media play as down and dirty as it gets. Since the primaries Obama has made no honest attempt to reconcile with the Clinton's. He clearly holds them and their suppoters in complete contempt, displaying a breath taking level of arrogance. Seeing Obama start playing the race card again against McCain clearly rubbed an open wound with Bill. After the way Obama has treated them, Bill & Hillary are showing a huge amount of loyalty to the party to even agree to be at the convention endorsing Obama. I would guess that when they are in the privacy of the voting booth in Nov that they will pull the lever for a man they both respect and it won't be Obama! If the super delegates were smart they would swing back to Hillary and avoid the Obama train wreck. There is one last chance?

  • Posted By: Young Hickory @ 08/08/2008 9:22:14 AM

    I support Obama but I feel the Clintons have be dutiful in rallying around Obama. Frankly, it appears that the press is trying to stir up the drama. I saw the interview with Bill and saw nothing inappropriate or surprising about his remarks. Do they expect him to do back flips for Obama? This is much ado over nothing.

  • Posted By: anotherview @ 08/08/2008 8:36:26 AM

    No doubt that Obama will do all he can to remain the star. But how can Obama "not allow" Clinton to place her name in nomination? And why would he anyway since he is an advocate of democracy, and change, and transparency.

    Obama could be upstaged at what he has always thought would be his "crowing moment." But you can't control " genuine human feelings".

    We can guess Obama is looking for the Big Bounce from his VP announcement and the convention. The trouble with bounces is what goes up, comes down. as Barrack found out after his foreign extravaganza.

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 08/08/2008 8:23:50 AM

    IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME A BIT IF OBAMA WAS A FRONT MAN TO SNEEK A CLINTON INTO THE WHITE HOUSE UNDER THE RADAR AND ALL ALONG McCAIN HAS BEEN FIGHTING OBAMA WHILE HILLARY IS GONNA RUN WITH IT LOL GOTTA LOVE THEM DEMOCRATS SNEEKYNESS

  • Posted By: MarineBugler @ 08/08/2008 8:13:04 AM

    AsperGirl has been watching waaaay too much television. Just say no to TV.

  • Posted By: AsperGirl @ 08/08/2008 8:10:35 AM

    Jeez, this guy is a great commentary writer. Edgy, targeted. I'm attracted to him just reading this piece.

  • Posted By: Brooklyn Democrat @ 08/08/2008 8:09:15 AM

    I have never found the Clinton's public psychodramas "riveting"....merely churlish, self-obsessed, and childish.

  • Posted By: Brooklyn Democrat @ 08/08/2008 8:07:54 AM

    I don't find it riveting. It's like watching brat ty children.

  • Posted By: Brooklyn Democrat @ 08/08/2008 8:06:38 AM

    I don't find it riveting. It's like watching brat ty children.

  • Posted By: CmoreGlass @ 08/08/2008 7:54:53 AM

    We have the Bush adminstration to thank for showing us the scope of executive power--to act and cause suffering, and to refrain from action and cause suffering. So here is the most significant Presidential election in a veery loong time--and the country is breaking up into little tribes around the totemic personalities of choice--and 'their' candidate is the 'best qualified' whatever that means--and all the other candidates are dirty, rotten, poseurs. It simply isn't possible to get a mob to act with reason and objective analysis. Thus, we will continue to destroy our environment until our population collapses and the lifestyle of the aborigenees returns. It COULD have been otherwise. How sad. But it is what we deserve.

  • Posted By: Kaelinda @ 08/08/2008 5:09:49 AM

    People wanted to vote for Hillary because and only because she had the chance to be the first woman president. She had nothing else to recommend her. People wanted to vote for Barack because and only because he is black. He had nothing else to recommend him. So in the end, the superdelegates got to choose the nominee - the people couldn't decide. And now, people will vote for Barack because and only because he's not Republican, not John McCain, not another term of Bush policies. He still has nothing more to recommend him.

  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/08/2008 4:16:28 AM

    Continued - Democratic Party maybe presumes too much - about women

    So many women feel that the election was somehow stolen, and by their own party, to boot. They thus feel much the way many Democrats feel about the 2000 election: bitter. When one side feels that they lost an election fairly, any bitterness recedes early on (think of the 2004 election, by comparison). But when the adjective "stolen" leaps to mind, bitterness is apt to prevail, vanquishing any desire for reconciliation and cooperation. That is what many former Clinton supporters are feeling now.

    We are disgusted with the party we have long trusted to represent our interests. We are disgusted with ourselves for being snookered - again. We assess the party leaders' rejection of Clinton as a cynical strategy. If Clinton had ended up as the candidate, the Democrats stood to lose the votes of many African Americans, who then might not vote at all. But if they made Obama the candidate? Well, then (the reasoning seems to have gone), the women always vote, and they will come around. Women always come around, no matter how badly they're mistreated.

    I am reminded of a particularly chilling passage in Vladimir Nabokov's novel "Lolita." Humbert Humbert, after raping the 12-year-old, is pondering why she has come back to his bed. "You see," Humbert tells the reader, "she had absolutely nowhere else to go."

    That's just how I feel. And they want my enthusiastic support? The Democratic Party can fend for itself.

    Robin Lakoff is a professor of linguistics at UC Berkeley. She is the author of "The Language War," "Talking Power" and "Language and Woman's Place."

  • Posted By: mbateman52 @ 08/07/2008 11:23:24 PM

    Jonathan Alter is a shameless Obama groupie. He has been doing propaganda on the Messiah's behalf for almost two years.

    I really worry about the sanity of Jonathan Alter when Obama loses. He might drink the cool aide on national TV and commit suicide.

    The media really prostituted itself on Obama's behalf throughout the primaries and they are still doing it.

    Obama used the race card against the Clintons throughout the primaries portraying them as racists. It helped him win the African American and white-guilt vote.

    It is clear what Hillary is doing. She knows Obama is going to lose in November. So Hillary is going to smile, say a few platitudes and wait until the One goes down to defeat in November. His media groupies won't be able to save him. Hillary will be able to say I told you so and organize for 2012. Just like Reagan did after the 1976 election.

    Hillary will not say anything nasty against McCain. She will talk about how they are good friends. She knows she will be working with President McCain and doesn't want to burn her bridges.

    As to Obama the Messiah after the November election he will join a long list of Dem losers; McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry.

  • Posted By: Eunece @ 08/07/2008 10:25:35 PM

    Hillary nor Bill should be allowed to speak, this is ridiculous they(Clintons) are obviously planning a bushwhacking of Obama and he can't see it, its their last chance to make sure he loses and he had given it to them, double barrel

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/07/2008 9:26:28 PM

    catharsis |k??????ärsis|
    noun
    1 the process of releasing, and thereby providing relief from, strong or repressed emotions.

    Yep, that's Hillary

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/07/2008 8:59:45 PM

    Coronation, coronate. Information, informate, Allegation, allegate.
    Coronation, crown. Information, inform. Allegation, allege.

    I don't believe anyone is going to be coronated.


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