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The Predators’ Ball

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have helped defang laws that might have prevented the subprime mess.

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  • Posted By: FredianoB @ 12/23/2008 11:27:35 AM

    We love our monopolists with guns.

  • Posted By: michael949 @ 10/07/2008 1:34:42 AM

    Watch this video, it is an excellent overview of the cause and how the Congress created this disaster.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4&feature=iv&annotation_id=even

  • Posted By: JDGREN @ 10/03/2008 12:36:48 PM

    I experienced FIRST HAND for 15 years from 1990-1995 the corruption that took place, especially in the sub-prime arena. It is no wonder whatsoever the financial position the US is in. Loan Officer, Brokers, Wholesalers, the Secondary Market, and consumers themselves are all responsible. Fraud, burying loans, etc., after a while you believed your own lies. it was all about the money. What's amazing is how conservative and stringent the A paper business was and Fannie and Freddie still messed it up??

  • Posted By: lawgrace @ 08/29/2008 2:32:57 PM

    The FBI and Congress needs to investigate, and property owners need to be WARNED about mortgage lenders??? filing falsified IRS tax form 1099-A's or 1099-C's ???especially for FORECLOSURES. To illustrate, here is a portion of my statement concerning Wells Fargo's false 1099-A, as well as a link to entire actual statement posted at:
    http://www.lawgrace.org/2008/08/08/my-august-8-2008-statement-to-the-louisiana-secretary-of-state-office-of-financial-institutions-concerning-wells-fargo-irs-and-mortgage-frauds-sham-foreclosures-and-judicial-collusion-and-national-app/
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    This Financial Office mistakenly thought a complaint was filed concerning my property; and on July 30, 2008, Ms. Kathy Drzewiecki responded on Wells Fargo's behalf. . . .As your records show, GE Capital Mortgage Services, Inc., became defunct in year 2002 when it merged into GE Mortgage Services, LLC, its "successor." Therefore, it is impossible for foreclosure auction to have LAWFULLY been carried out in year 2005 on behalf of the non-existent GE Capital Mortgage Services, Inc. Also, contrary to what Ms. Drzwiecki wrote, it is NOT POSSIBLE in year 2005 for Wells Fargo to continue being the "mortgage servicer" for non-existent GE Capital Mortgage Services. Furthermore, if my property was (impossibly) ACQUIRED by GE Capital on May 19, 2005, there is NO LAWFUL REASON for the IRS form 1099-A to exhibit Wells Fargo's name!

    Another thing Ms. Drzewiecki's letter failed to state is that I initially acquired my residence property in 1993 through AmSouth Bank. For home improvement in 1999, I refinanced it with GE Capital. I had equity in the property, and I never had a subprime loan. (Marriage failure caused me financial ruin; and crooked deals in Family Court sealed my fate.)

    On the other hand, facts overwhelmingly demonstrate that, using defunct GE Capital's identity, debt collector attorney Herschel C. Adcock, Jr., fraudulently seized and acquired more than $80,000 when he flipped my property. Also, contrary to the form 1099-A, the Fair Market Value was not $12,000 -as manifest from the year 2005 sale price for which that property was sold in that same tax year purportedly to a third party.

    A lot of foreclosed former property owners will one day discover there is a 1099-A or a 1099-C for which the IRS wants answers. If that 1099 is replete with false information, there could be severe tax effects and a lot of needless untangling to be burdened with.

    Across the country, foreclosures have been halted because "real party interest" was absent from those foreclosure proceedings. Yet (in Louisiana), it would not be farfetched for foreclosures to become filed in the name of 'Mary had a little lamb', and judges allow peoples' homes to become seized.

    Barbara Ann Jackson
    http://www.lawgrace.org

  • Posted By: nodummy @ 08/22/2008 3:29:23 PM

    What it all boils down to is greed, isn't it? Not only from the predators but from the users also. People that have been raised with good financial sense and a pay as you go mentality have nothing to fear.

  • Posted By: nodummy @ 08/22/2008 3:28:25 PM

    What it all boils down to is greed, isn't it? Not only from the predators but from the users also. People that have been raised with good financial sense and a pay as you go mentality have nothing to fear.

  • Posted By: Peter Sarasota @ 08/13/2008 12:17:49 AM

    Of the dozens or articles I have read on the subprime mortgage nightmare, this is by far the most disturbing. This implies the need for a wholesale house cleaning at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Perhaps we can retain employees in the mailroom but not muh more... Well beyond the top level head chopping encouraged by the NYT and others. State's rights, my left foot!

  • Posted By: klebrun @ 08/12/2008 5:34:41 PM

    akis1159:

    Cute, but while I was in the business, before the deregulation, we didn't have this mess.

  • Posted By: dzlopez @ 08/12/2008 3:29:53 PM

    Well, Republican or not, the fact remains that the Lending market is crashed. What? may I ask, is the solution, besides the immediate band-aid of Forclosure mitigation and Short-Sales? Perhaps the answer would have to come from Washington, perhaps in the form of litigation. Isn't that where it originated? Washington (or Republicans as you say) unleashed this monster. Well then, Washington has to be the one to pull back the Reigns and perhaps begin with legislation that limits, or better still, prohibits predatory lending practices, however not only with mortgage subprime loans but also consumer loans.

  • Posted By: akis1159 @ 08/12/2008 2:38:15 PM

    Excuse me but who had the audacity to write that we somehow mortgage underwriting criteria that works?
    Is that really true...
    Please let me take a stab at these "solid underwriting criteria..." we developed....
    What gives me the right to question the criteria....? 32,000 loans underwritten between 1990 and 2004..
    Borrower's ability to repay the debt , Borrower's willingness to repay the debt, along with the valuation of the collateral.... Yeap that was and still is our criteria...
    Problem was and continues to be that Borrowers willingness and ability are ephemeral criteria and strictly contingent upon the Good Lord's sense of humor... And since underwriters are only allowed to view a snap shot of the Borrower's current financial situation The asset and the accurate valuation of such asset is the
    only true colateral that the mortgagee posesses...
    Since we were not to be trusted to interpret the ambiguous guidelines published by aunt FNMA and uncle FHLMC, In 1994 we were introduced to credit scores.. Consequently in 1996 we were given the Automated Underwriting Systems... DU .... LP.... CLUES.... Asset Wise.... that was great .... And the institutional Investors created a new generation of Underwriters..... Who could not make a decision for them selves or for the financial institution that they managed risk for.... By 1999 the blurb in DU asked for a 1004 for the appraisal and that is all henceforth insuring that this new generation could not read or understand an appraisal... Things got better... Aunt FNMA introduced new forms for the valuation of the colateral 2055 and 2065..... Another words the appraiser was to ride by the hood and see if a structure was standing there....
    And we are all sitting here wondering how could it all go so badly.... Of course.... We developed "SOUND UNDERWRITING CRITERIA .....? .

  • Posted By: klebrun @ 08/12/2008 10:03:26 AM

    We developed, over half a century or more, underwriting criteria for loans that worked. It was a reasonable balance of risk and regulation that buiit a solid foundation for the mortgage/banking industry. The lenders had a reasonable certainty that the loans would be repaid.

    When the tax cut religion failed to deliver for the Cheney/Bush administration, they opened the credit flood gates to spur the economy, and then credited the tax cut program for the strong growth in our economy. That was probably one of the biggest scams in the countries history.

    The sub-prime loans were driven by raw greed. A typical mortgage broker's fee for a home loan in the 90s was 1.0 to 1.25 percent of the loan amount. The subprimes generally ranged from 3.0 to 6.0 percent and sometimes higher for those with weak credit who were desperate to get financing for a home.

    Had we MAINTAINED underwriting criteria for residential loans and MAINTAINED the limits on the sub-primes, we would have seen an increase in home prices because of the low interest rates, but we would not have had the crisis that we have today.

    This is a reapeat of the Reagan deregulation process that resulted in the S&L disasters in the 80s.

    The big money players got in and out early, were pulled back in to do the workouts and then bought up the discounted assets at ten cents on the dollar.

    Bottom line is that the average Joe got killed while the politically connected with money made a killing. And, it will happen again.

  • Posted By: newshawk08 @ 08/12/2008 9:58:54 AM

    There has to be government regulation of these things. After all, it is the public that end up with the bill after the bailout occurs. Shame on the Republicans for dropping oversight on this.

  • Posted By: B.Arthropoda @ 08/09/2008 4:49:58 PM

    And Barnes' sucessor, "Sonny" Perdue, will probably be reelected on a platform of "Fiscal Resposibility" versus those wicked, wasteful Democrats. How ironic.

    • Posted By: gapeachpit @ 08/09/2008 5:59:07 PM

      Sonny can't be re-elected--we have a two term limit and he's had his chance. Next!

      • Posted By: jeffery_yoder @ 08/12/2008 8:39:59 AM

        gapeach; Sonny-Bubba-Boy Purdue is the poster boy for the GOP exhibiting just plain political hipocracy . Remember when he adamantly opposed and threatened to veto a bill to let the voters decide to buy alcohol on Sunday???s while waddling around the state proclaiming less government and self-responsibility, A so-called common GOP principle until it dosen???t suit them. Plus Sonny has always professed his beliefs in God and the bible while flying to China and begging for business deals which requires being in cahoots with the communist government (atheist) which has some of the worst human rights in the world. It befuddles me how these Republican???s go around with a straight face procaliming there the party of family values and princilples yet place $ over Gods beliefs but I???m sure God anointed them to cherry pick the bible. GOP = Greed Over Principles!

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/10/2008 1:54:28 PM

    Business is somewhat like your children, congress and state legislatures being the parents. Let your children raise themselves. Don't tell them anything. Give them no guidelines. Turn them loose to find whatever company that appears in front of them. Don't caution them about the need for discipline. Tell them that money governs all of life. If they get in trouble, bail them out without any strings attached. Then watch what they do. Vote for good prisons, because that's where your children are headed. Their names are American Business, approaching total deregulation. Maybe they won't be rehabilitated in prison, but maybe we will be safe while they are out of commission for a while.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/10/2008 2:52:44 PM

      Hey old...I'll give you credit...You deserve a handshake....for at least being bluntly honest, of your political, role of government belief.....most obamamohhameds deny it. Your very first sentence, says it as well as I have ever heard this opinion put. You almost sound like Rush L's definition of a Dem.......Kudo's to you old man. I appreciate your honesty............................

      "Business is somewhat like your children, congress and state legislatures being the parents. "

      So, business...which pays most of America's bills....Is the child of Mama and Daddy government.............which takes from, and squanders its childrens hard earned efforts. You go on to say Mama and Daddy Govt. have been bad parents. We need more discipline. O.K. well,how about this. Do that. Make business less or even unprofitable. Steal small business owners, HARD EARNED money, through regulation and TAXES. Just so Mama and Daddy can feed and cloth and take care of the baby.....who are the parasites of this nation, and will never change.

      The DNC,s objective, of using govt. regulations and TAXES to steal the hard earned assets, of the very lifeblood of this nation, will utterly fail. You may take what we have, but we will quit making more of it just so Mama and Daddy, can squander it. We will quit. We will shut our doors. We will lay of employees. AND the country will buckle. What is your plan then??? The babies sure aren't gonna pay the bills.

      But I do appreciate your honesty. Remember though........Communism is a FAILED experiment.

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: TheVigil @ 08/10/2008 4:04:06 PM

        You know, you might have some more credibility if you could knock off the vituperative dishonesty and the insults.

        The Edwards story has broken wide, and I will eat my crow like a good blogger. And you have some good opinions, I'm noting, at times. It's the viciousness and the insults that drive everyone against you, Roller.

        If you could ditch the anger and the hate, maybe people would pay you more respect and less anger themselves. No matter what your opinions are, when it comes to expressing them, I'll still pose you the question - WWJD?

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/10/2008 4:54:54 PM

          Hey Virgil...good to see you are back from vacation. No need to eat crow. I technically lost. It took longer than I thought. My opinion of MSM is even lower than it was. I truly didn't it could go lower. Oh well...Live and learn. BTW...The Enquirer is supposedly talking with Larry Sinclair. Bet that could sell some issues.

          As for my attitude...I do not hate anyone, but I do hate foolishness. BUT angry....damn right. That someone with the background, associations, and political leanings, of Hussein Obama, being a serious candidate for POTUS. Yea it makes me VERY MAD. Have a large segment of my fellow citizens, become lunatics ??? If this was not such an important item....the direction, protection, resolve of my homeland...I would ignore the idiots. ALSO...I heard RACIST screamed way too often. It is Hussein 101 Basic Theory. He used it on Hillary. Tried it on McCain, and now wants it to go away. Can't put that genie back in the lamp. Been used way to often to forgive.

          You asked me a question. WWJD???? Hey would tell us....

          A mohammed in the White House??? GOD forbid...And HE has.........

          NOBAMA!!!

          • Posted By: TheVigil @ 08/12/2008 2:14:53 AM

            That will remain to be seen come November. As far as the WWJD thing, I meant the way you talk to other people, not the Messiah's opinion on the White House race.

            I do believe race has been thrown up far too often in this election, but not by Obama himself - by both his supporters and denigrators.

            Anyway, I will consider whatever disputes I might have had with you ended - your argument about Edwards was vindicated - but I still would highly suggest that you become more civil and less accusatory - more positive - on these boards. For every comment I see agreeing with you, I see at least one who's been deeply offended and gotten their bristle up, not even so much in your opinions as in the way you talk. You *are* driving at least some people away. If you were to argue without so many insults, you might even win some votes for McCain...

          • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/11/2008 8:16:54 AM

            What's wrong with Obama's background? He's highly educated, a successful attorney, and a Senator. Makes him more qualified than a lot of others who have ran for President in the past. And you want to talk about foolishess, associations, and political leanings? Bush is the greatest catastrophe to hit the US--he should be listed right above Katrina. His background and associations have left this country limping along, with a black eye, and trillions in debt.

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/10/2008 4:59:27 PM

          Hey Virgil...one more thing. You are WAY OFF on this statement.....

          " It's the viciousness and the insults that drive everyone against you, Roller."

          Virgil...HolyRoller has so many readers, I could start a fan club. It's the Hopium addicted obamamohammeds, that tend to not mainly agree.

          NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/10/2008 4:26:49 PM

        Holy, you're just too far from a basic Government 101 course for me to try to counter all of this bull hockey. I wish that Joe Mc Carthy was still around. He could use a good chauffeur like you to talk to. He called everybody but his mama a Communist. Just anybody who disagreed with him. Good luck on your promotion to the fourth grade this Fall when school starts. Do a little road work and practice up on your left jab because with your name calling habit you'll probably need a little protection during recess.

        • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/10/2008 4:47:53 PM

          Holy, I need to correct what I said about Joe Mc Carthy. There was a rumor that he did call his mama a communist bitch one hungover morning when she cooked the yellows on his eggs too hard. He would enjoy your company. Much to her credit, she kissed him goodbye before he went to the senate to slander some more good citizens.

          • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/10/2008 5:00:55 PM

            Old guy....if that comparison was not rooted in Marxism, please explain it then. Sounds commie to me.

            NOBAMA!!!

            • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/10/2008 7:07:55 PM

              Unregulated business is the point of the post. Plain and simple. Regulated business is not Marxism. Plain and simple. The ideal of deregulation did not come to fruition because too many crooks scraped away the goodness of that utopian goal. We do need some regulation and discipline of business from congress. We will get it, too. The pendulum has swung too far to the right. It's coming back. If the example of parents and children didn't get through to you, I should have used some other example. The word communist is simply too harsh for this idea. That's about it in a nutshell, Roller.

              • Posted By: bwlear @ 08/11/2008 5:00:35 PM

                Older,
                As someone who has posted in the past, you realize that Holys only objective is to stir up as much trouble as he can before he disappears back into his bomb shelter and waits for the world to end when Sen Obama becomes President. Nice try though. As for your point and the point of this article, Holy, and most who think like him fail to understand that business is not there for the benefit of the people, its sole purpose is to generate as much revenue as it can. Regulation is necessary because of this. History has proven time and time again that business will not self govern because it is not in there financial interest to do so.

              • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/10/2008 10:17:30 PM

                UNregulated business??? What business is that. We are over-regulated. Call it what you want, govt always screws up business. These people (borrowers AND lenders) in almost every case KNEW they could not afford these loans. They understood variable rates and 0% interest. To say the didn't is a lie. In some cases, out of control situations have occurred, but that is a very small minority. The vast majority of problems is a result of simple greed. Borrowers planned to flip the house and make a bundle, before rates increased. WHY should these speculators recieve a reprieve...(I thought Dems hated speculators)?? Why should a lender get govt. intervention?? How did they earn this privelige?....I don't agree with any govt. bailout. Poor decisions cause poor results. The lender and the borrower must share in the losses, as it is a shared responsibility.

                I can imagine what Govt. Health Care would result in. A complete fiasco is what. It is a failure all over the world.

                But that is not what you said....your own words convict you. Backpedaling when you are caught...well....that is a part of the Hussein campaign. Your candidate is definitely Marxist in his principles...and...what I told you about the backlash of the productive segment, of America....They already pay all the bills...but the DNC wants more....any more punishment for being successful, will cause severe consequences. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. A Hussein election would insure an economic meltdown.

                The "man" is a crook and a fraud.

                NOBAMA!!!





                NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: OKLAtoNOLA @ 08/10/2008 11:21:07 PM

    This was an informative article that ,unfortunately, confirms some of my not fully verbalized psychic yellow alert suspicions that this may not be the best time for a first time home buyer to start the process to buy a house. Now I'm old enough to have lived through one economic "bust" and observe the ripple effects on the national economy from the the fall of the Penn Square Bank in Oklahoma City on July 2, 1982,. The long term effects are still affecting the Greater New Orleans economic network to this very day. I've lived in the greater OKC area most of the year since Jan., 1981, yet I still have a house and live in the GNO area at least once a year. My GNO house has never flooded from the street in 53 years, so far. I've waited over 15 years for this type of housing market to materialize, but if Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are no longer stable because of non-regulation, I'm just going to sit and wait another 4 months to a year to observe the evolution of the economy objectively, but I may give my portfolio manager a phone call to start discussing estate planning..

  • Posted By: jamesn8000 @ 08/10/2008 2:09:58 PM

    The people posting comments here and the author of this article really don't understand the term "deregulation". In deregulation, the government is supposed to completely get out of the way. This is NOT what happened here. While both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were run as private companies, they had many strings attached to the federal government, including the number of loans they were required to issue to ???lower income??? individuals and families. This is hardly deregulation, and as such, these institutions were forced to resort to issuing interest only loans and using predatory lending tactics to meet their quotas required by LAW. How about all of the assurances by the Fed and Treasury that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac would be back-stopped, no matter what? If we truly had deregulation, these lenders would have been forced to dissolve.

    As far as blaming just Republicans for this mess, I find these comments ignorant. How about taking individual responsibility for making the biggest purchase of your life (a home)? How about Senator Dodd and his ridiculous home mortgage bill that will actually make the situation worse? How about Senator Biden and support for tougher bankruptcy legislation that was supported by the credit card companies (who happen to all be incorporated in Delaware)? How about President Wilson who pushed through the establishment of the Federal Reserve that in my mind is solely responsible for this and what they are doing to our currency? Wake up people. We need fundamental change in banking, not more regulation advocated by either McCain or Obama.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/10/2008 10:45:22 PM

      A very good post. You will have very few in agreement, among the NewsWeak obamamohammed crowd. Their main political objective is to...TAX and PUNISH economic success and produvtivity. Without restraint on these attitudes, a backlash is not far from occurring. Producers paying the bills and lifestyles of the parasites, is the DNC goal. Government dependence is their objective. The tipping point for a revolutionary type reaction is not far off. A Hussein election would do it. HUGE numbers of small business owners will close shop, creating massive lay-offs and a sharp decline in tax revenue. Why work if you have to give away your earnings???

      A Hussein election would be a catastrophe economically.

      NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: Captain Petrov @ 08/10/2008 2:20:02 PM

    Any attempt at regulating the monied interests of our nation are completely futile. There may be good intentions today, but it will not last. Eventually, the snakes and reptiles of the money world always manage to gut any regulation that protects the ordinary consumer, while making certain to present the image that any enhancements of consumer protection will only be an improvemnt. The week-minded politicians who cannot see anything other than the next election victory make excuses for the big money powers. The powers cannot see it now, but every move they make to line their own pockets at the expense of consumers will only dstroy them in the end. Washington is a disappointment; all of its efforts to protect us have been half-hearted and not worthy of discussion. The real problem still exists: The unbridled avarice of the business elite must be curtailed or it will destroy our nation.

  • Posted By: macktn @ 08/10/2008 1:51:37 PM

    Americans are being ripped off big time by corporations completely unshackeled from regulations that would make them accountable for their misdeeds. The subprime mess is only a part of it; the overall credit crisis that allows companies to charge outrageous interest and fees to inflate balances is another. I tried to cancel a Brink's account that I'd held for years but was told I couldn't because I forgot to cancel it when my time was up and so a new contract was automatically put in place. Sure, I could cancel it...if I paid them $600! Threaten them wth complaints, they laugh at you. The law is on our side, fool. Enron signaled this rampant ripoff. Why should I worry about terrorists when the Enrons of this country are doing a much better job of destroying us.

  • Posted By: tomanjeri @ 08/10/2008 12:27:19 PM

    This country's business and corporate network needs to be reigned in, old regulations that worked have been dismantled, oversight that worked has been removed, unrivaled profits at the expense of workers is rampant.

  • Posted By: timrogers @ 08/10/2008 11:19:10 AM

    So the mortgage industry and the investment industry are trying to prevent any reforms which might hold them accountable? What else is new in politics? The political influence that helped create this financial crisis will now be applied to free them of any responsibility. As always money will flow to the politicians who do as they are told by industry lobbyists. No legislation that threatens the position of the money men will last. Token reform will pacify the media; sound bites will claim the problem has been solved; business as usual will continue. The political system that favors the few, and makes fools the rest will move on to other pressing matters like the next round of campaign fund raising.

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