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  • Posted By: samsung @ 08/09/2008 9:15:57 PM

    I used to have great deal of respect for the Clintons, they lost me for good. He did it to himself he has nobody
    else to blame. Thank you

    • Posted By: what? @ 08/09/2008 9:30:37 PM

      did you also have respect for former presidential hopeful and enthusiastic Obama endorser, John Edwards? "he did it to himself and no one else to blame." His words about Mr Clinton were absolutely lovely back then. Have we heard the same from Mr Clinton about Edwards?

      • Posted By: loriw @ 08/10/2008 1:53:39 AM

        Clinton probably slapped Edwards on the back and said "way to go buddy, I wanted to nail her too but you beat me to it!"

        • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 3:06:11 PM

          lovely...i can't believe you're still at it. How old are you? Are you even old enough to vote?

          • Posted By: loriw @ 08/10/2008 6:44:18 PM

            voted in about 8 Presidential elections...do the math . Besides those I vote in every election.
            Next question.

            • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 7:11:20 PM

              Then that is very, very sad. A grown woman saying such foul childish things. Are you proud of yourself?

              • Posted By: katvan @ 08/10/2008 9:51:51 PM

                she gave it away with "about". One remembers exactly how many presidents they voted for especially if they vote in every election.

                • Posted By: loriw @ 08/10/2008 10:24:58 PM

                  OK smartass, I have a birthday of 11/2 ... and couldn't remember if I was 18 yet in 1976. This will be my 8th Presidential election. Geeze didn't think it was such a big deal to you all.

                  • Posted By: katvan @ 08/11/2008 12:03:21 AM

                    methinks thy doth protest too much.

                • Posted By: loriw @ 08/10/2008 10:27:14 PM

                  So if one remembers such things exactly how many elections have you voted in and which candidate did you voted for...quiclky now...
                  This is easy if you are young...gets harder the more elections you have participated in!

              • Posted By: loriw @ 08/10/2008 10:28:57 PM

                yep!

  • Posted By: Fisherman144 @ 08/10/2008 8:12:45 PM

    Of course there are flaws in the Clintons...and everyone in politics, or any other human in our society. The only one that thinks he's perfect is McCain and he's more flawed, old, and perpetually angrier than any of the candidates. He fashions himself as 'ready to lead, govern and be President'. Who's kidding who? Yes, the Democratic Party needs to come together and support the candidate and the ideals of the party. This will happen. The Republicans are poised to lose! They are going to put up a puppet, lame-duck old man to try to win the upcoming election. This Country of ours would be in disasterous shape if the Republican machine were to succeed in their deceit and win the presidency. ....I pray this will never happen.

    • Posted By: katvan @ 08/10/2008 11:42:46 PM

      Then talk to your messiah and tell him to get his ego under control.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/10/2008 8:40:55 PM

      Speaking of puppets. . . .

      http://vodpod.com/watch/795809-puppets-hillary-faints-at-obama-rally

  • Posted By: miriamac @ 08/10/2008 12:26:37 AM

    I am sick to death of the Clintonistas whining about their hurt feelings. She ran a vicious racist campaign by design to conceal the fact that she was no more qualified to be POTUS than a doctor's spouse is to perform surgery.
    She is the one who owes Obama, the Democratic Party & the country an abject apology. She has not done that "as far as I know."

    • Posted By: American Democrat @ 08/10/2008 12:46:22 AM

      So miriamax, would you also tell Mrs. Clinton to save her time and energy and stop campaigning for Obama? While you are at it please remind Obama to stop plagiarizing Mrs. Clinton by adopting all her well thought out plans to make our Nation better. If you have time look up the career and race baiter Ms Rice. Mr. Clinton gave her career a boost and she repaid him with the NC phony baloney stab. Respect; learn it and practice it, we all will benefit.

      • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/10/2008 1:39:57 AM

        No, your taking this way too far. Obama and Hillary held similar views right from the beginning alright. Don't downplay someone's own ideas just because your angry. Respect can enlighten us, resentment will cloud us all.

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/10/2008 11:08:33 PM

          Obama entered the campaign well after Hillary had established and promoted her plan. He simply duplicated most of it and tweaked it here and there (although he since has took on even more of her plan) for obvious reasons. The rest of HIS plan was to rely on people getting duped and pulled in on just hope and faith in ongoing speeches and the rest was pulled off by the genious of his marketing man, David Axelrod. I wonder what role he will play in his posse of 'friends' should O get into the white house. Hmmmm.

      • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 6:54:04 PM

        that's why the debates should be so interesting...barry can't say: well I agree with Sen Clinton...as an answer.

  • Posted By: Durell @ 08/10/2008 10:36:59 PM

    Bill Clinton has step over the race line and don't how to get back...sad.

  • Posted By: pyramid @ 08/10/2008 2:27:26 AM

    McCain would be a much better president than Obama. McCain has experience Obama has none! Out of all the candidates that were running we ended up with these 2. Now we have to choose between the lesser of 2 evils. McCain is the better choice!!!

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 08/10/2008 8:31:22 PM

      pyramid, on one post you say Obama can't win. On another you say the DNC should reverse themselves and get rid of Obama. If you don't think he can win because you're for McCain, why wouldn't you want a person who can't win off the ballot.? Let me help you with the answer. You know McCain is losing, will continue to lose and will be routed by more than 100 electoral votes.

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 08/09/2008 9:51:42 PM

    Dear Hilary - if you want catharsis, get a therapist. You and Bill are long overdue for one.

    The rest of us just need to heal from the nightmare that has been the last 8 years.

    Obama doesn't need the dysfunctional Clintons, and neither do the rest of us.

    • Posted By: Edbanksusa @ 08/09/2008 10:15:08 PM

      Perhaps you need a disfunctional McBush and you will have it come November if Obama does not wake up from his slumber and see that low incme americia, vlue cllar workers, women and many whites will stay home. The nation suffered tremendiously under the crazy bush, mcCain is no Bush, In fact, mccain is an angel and saint when compared to bush. we endured a worst dictatorship of bush, we will survive mccain easily. So let Obama continue his arrogance which will surely turn away many groups of voters in the fall. No dem ever win with black votes alone. The disgusting state of the nation is no comfort. The southerners voted bush twice despite knowing he is a dumb idiot. They will vote mcain in a hurry instead of an arrogant novice like obama. Ask yourself why is the race tight is obama is that good of a messaih? The nation is waking up to see that he is indeed an empty suit with empty words, a flippflopper, and egotistic abrassive, inexperience unskilled cut throat dirt bag.

      • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 08/09/2008 10:59:39 PM

        Obama isn't a messiah, far from it. But neither is Hilary, and neither is Bill. All I'm saying is that refusing to support the democratic nominee because you're a sore loser isn't making Hilary's case that she is presidential material; quite the opposite.

        If the Clintons aren't going to help the DEMOCRATIC nominee get elected, they don't deserve to be part of the process, and a self-serving 'catharsis' of 'oh look, I'm poor little Hilary who got dissed by mean old Barack' is getting tiresome.

        And calling McCain an angel and a saint when compared to Bush is ridiculous. McCain isn't an incompetent jerk like Bush, he's just an incompetent. I still don't want him for president.

        • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 7:09:38 PM

          "Clinton's aren't going to help the DEMOCRATIC nominee get elected"

          What was Sen Clinton doing in Nevada on Friday while barry's on vacation?

        • Posted By: soundiata @ 08/10/2008 3:07:48 AM

          McCain has explicitly sided with Bush on several issues affecting the country so badly. He will be no different then Bush an there are every signs he will in fact be worst. Wtih all the respect to elders, McCain is losing his bearings as he gets older. A once bipartisan, the republican nominee has abandon his fine principle to side blindly with Bush failed policies.

        • Posted By: loriw @ 08/10/2008 1:46:48 AM

          HILLARY!!!! not Hilary. good grief....

        • Posted By: cult followers @ 08/09/2008 11:40:36 PM

          how ignorant are you? "refusing to support the democratic nominee because you're a sore loser?" what? where was barry yesterday? vacationing? and where was Senator Clinton? Campaigning for him in Nevada. is that what you call a sore loser? refusing to support the nominee? unreal.

          ps how are you helping barry by continuing to incite Sen Clinton supporters?

    • Posted By: BarelyBreathing @ 08/10/2008 4:02:47 AM

      Bill and Hillary Clinton have heads as big as the universe itself. They are narcissists, and believe that they are entitled to any and everything within their reach. Both of them are behaving like a spoiled child. This is the first time that I have been included in a Presidential election, and if this sort of messiness is what I should expect in future elections, then I might as well go live in a cave; away from all of this hatred, anger, and lack of love and acceptance. I'm afraid.

      • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 7:08:15 PM

        is this your version of party unity?

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/10/2008 1:45:27 AM

      For pete sake, it's HILLARY not Hilary!

      • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 3:03:43 PM

        it's Senator & Mr/President Clinton.

    • Posted By: cult followers @ 08/09/2008 11:34:49 PM

      hello? and whose directly responsible for those eight years? GORE/EDWARDS/KERRY. They let Bush win. Ask Gore and Donna Brazile if they would have won if they had stowed their pride and let Mr Clinton campaign. Sound familiar? Every single Democratic presidential candidate after Mr Clinton are directly responsible for Bush and the state this country is in. Stop ragging on the Clintons and get a clue.

      • Posted By: soundiata @ 08/10/2008 2:50:15 AM

        Your comment sound very much like america should be govern by dinasties BUSH(as VP and president)/ Clinton/ Bush/ Clinton! Hell no! Many have sacrificed their life to prevent such a dispicable system of ruling from happening again. The clintons need to let another young and talented "fellow" democrat rule the party. But i must admit they deserve the respect of the DNC cause they are still beloved by the electorate.

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/10/2008 3:07:29 PM

    My fellowbloggers....Are ya'll following the HOTTEST HUSSEIN QUESTION?????????

    The question of Hussein's Certificate Of Live Birth (COLB)........if not you are behind on your Fact Checking. Seems quite a few people have opinions. Look at the results of a Google..................

    ................Results 1 - 10 of about 482,000 for obama birth certificate........................482,000.........that is a BUNCH of opinions. I know most of ya'll are.....TOO LAZY or TOO SCARED....to look yourself.....so HolyRoller will give a helping hand. Here is a very recent "Israeli Insider" report.....................

    Claim: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original
    By Israel Insider staff August 5, 2008

    Independent analysts, working separately, claim to have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.

    Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days. Israel Insider has not yet seen proof that would validate the claim.

    The dramatic claim comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darlin blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.

    Ya'll need to keep your eyes open. Is this why Barry is in Hawaii??? Wonder when the Nation Enquirer is gonna break this???

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/10/2008 6:51:08 PM



      HolyRoller, what might make this even more interesting is that I found out through another blogger on this site that one of the owners of The Enquirer,(a big investment guy Roger Altman) was an official in Bill Clintons first Administration and has been a big supporter of Hillary. So if this birth certificate investigation is going on like you say I would think The Enquirer is already out there researching this.

  • Posted By: duchess5 @ 08/10/2008 8:50:37 AM

    Are all of you crazy?......A 2 term great President should be cow towing to this disrespectfull upstart?...Give me a break. And why shouldn,t Hillary be acknowledged?She won the popular vote,I hope John MCain wins so I can hear "I told you so" shouted from the roof tops by 18 million woman.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/10/2008 6:29:56 PM

      Hillary won more Operation Chaos votes than Obama did and she still lost.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/10/2008 11:15:03 AM

      Hillary is being acknowledged. She and Bill are being given a HUGE presence at the convention. Is that not good enough for you either? You want her to usurp Obama and run for President instead? She didn't win, tough luck. Better luck next time. I know it's disappointing but she will play a prominent role, I've no doubt.

      • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 2:52:31 PM

        hello? she didn't win? did Obama sew up the nomination already? and if so, why doesn't he want her name on the ballot?

    • Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 08/10/2008 10:30:45 AM

      Her and her husband are both keynote speakers at the convention; have you been paying attention to whats going on?

    • Posted By: bathinker @ 08/10/2008 10:21:16 AM

      Any [espcially female] Hillary supporter who thinks John McCain is a better choice ,better kiss Roe vS. Wade good-bye, tell your sons /daughters who are in the armed services there is no prize in that enlistment package, and realize that your children WILL be left behind. I'd prefer to have our brightest & best lead [us] not someone who would work to make sure that our government fails [us].

  • Posted By: missdeal2005 @ 08/10/2008 2:48:36 PM

    Bill Clinton was impeached, for God's sake! He is disbarred and convicted of perjury. He is a *FALLEN* ex-president - helloooooo. His accomplishments were his JOB. Now he needs to serve the Democratic party and not himself ... something he has never been able to master .... country above self. Clintons are the definition of BLIND AMBITION - HUBRIS - DERANGED NARCISSISM - and more. The deserve no respect.

    • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 3:10:26 PM

      loriw?

      • Posted By: loriw @ 08/10/2008 6:24:35 PM

        I'm here. Did you need to ask me something?

  • Posted By: collegevoter @ 08/10/2008 2:57:44 AM

    Agreed. Bill Clinton is insufferable. And he's not the only two-term president since FDR, Truman had two terms too. He was only elected once, but he had two terms. Granted I know he's not a favorite of the media, as he didn't go around constantly aggrandizing him self and acting as if the world owed him something the way Billy Boy does, but still. Of course according to Bill Clinton, yeah, Bill Clinton is the greatest thing since sliced bread. The rest of us frankly couldn't care. So long. I'm with sound. No more dynasties. Just retire quietly somewhere else. Please.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/10/2008 11:16:17 AM

      Reagan had two terms and so did Bush Jr (ugh)..

      • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 6:17:41 PM

        DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT

  • Posted By: redmanrt @ 08/10/2008 3:08:15 PM

    Wow, let's have lots of new YouTube videos with Clinton thrusting his red alcoholic's nose into the camera while ostensibly supporting Obama. Since leaving so-called office, Clinton has a perfect record of campaigning for losing candidates.

    • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 6:11:16 PM

      operative word: since leaving office

  • Posted By: onilink @ 08/10/2008 3:18:44 PM

    After reading this article, I still don't see why they HAVE to make peace. Hillary LOST. Barack WON. It's as simple as that. I'm tired of hearing about hurt feelings, and that the Obama's have to cater to all the Clinton's needs and demands. Obama WON THE NOMINATION. Hillary LOST. Bill WAS NOT A CANDIDATE. He was the SPOUSE of a candidate. Looking at the current polls and mock electoral votes, Obama does not need Bill traveling around the country for him making contriversy. I think the media sometimes would love for that to happen. I personally feel that there is no reason to still be talking about the Clintons. It's time to move on. We're all grown-ups here.

    • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 3:45:13 PM

      "Looking at the current polls and mock electoral votes, Obama does not need Bill traveling around the country for him making contriversy (sic)."

      Might you share those polls? Every one I've seen had Obama close or within the margin of error. Could you provide the polls you quote? Thank you.

      • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 6:10:15 PM

        look above at sharenews

  • Posted By: cadbury @ 08/10/2008 11:11:43 AM

    Too bad more of Bill's oft-touted political brilliance wasn't on display in the primaries. I was often left with the distinct impression that he didn't want Hillary to win.

    • Posted By: celested9 @ 08/10/2008 2:11:13 PM

      The Democratic Elite promoted and PROTECTED Obama during the primary.

      Hillary was disadvantaged both by the media and the Dems.

      All this so called brilliance by Obama was a myth. He was helped all the way and especially at the end when Hillay was beating Obama 8 out of 13/

      Fineman has a very, very convenient memory.

      • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 6:04:18 PM

        he's been overtaken by mancrush fever or drunk on barack obama soda. He's too elitist to drink Kool-Aid.

  • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 08/10/2008 5:58:47 PM

    Clinton and Obama... Siamese twin snakes... each is the others tail. Both wage the Americans Suck first campaign of deception and lies against Americans to divide.
    America, as is, is not special enough, until it becomes more radicalized and socialized. that's what these students of deception are about.
    America is a great country...AS IS! And if people said this instead of COME TOGETHER with the snakes and get on board their americans suck first campaign these snakes-- or snake-- would be slither as fast as his tail,or The Other would allow.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/10/2008 5:28:15 PM



    Gallup Daily Tracking
    August 10, 2008

    McCain - 43%

    Obama - 46%

    Barack Obama has a slim 46% to 43% margin over John McCain among registered voters in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking three-day rolling average for Aug. 7-9.

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/10/2008 3:15:32 PM

    My fellowbloggers....Are ya'll following the HOTTEST HUSSEIN QUESTION?????????

    The question of Hussein's Certificate Of Live Birth (COLB)........if not you are behind on your Fact Checking. Seems quite a few people have opinions. Look at the results of a Google..................

    ................Results 1 - 10 of about 482,000 for obama birth certificate........................482,000.........that is a BUNCH of opinions. I know most of ya'll are.....TOO LAZY or TOO SCARED....to look yourself.....so HolyRoller will give a helping hand. Here is a very recent "Israeli Insider" report.....................

    Claim: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original
    By Israel Insider staff August 5, 2008

    Independent analysts, working separately, claim to have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.

    Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days. Israel Insider has not yet seen proof that would validate the claim.

    The dramatic claim comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darlin blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.

    Ya'll need to keep your eyes open. Is this why Barry is in Hawaii??? Wonder when the Nation Enquirer is gonna break this???

    NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: American Democrat @ 08/09/2008 9:34:06 PM

    Howard, The Clintons have spent a life time as loyal Democrats. They are to be respected by our party. The Obama and ompany are teaching our new voters disrepect. They are not Democratic team players and are an insult to our party. We expect Obama to honor the 18 million voters by having Hillary as our Vice President. For Barry to campaign state to state for new voters is a waste of time and money. We 18 million will vote for him ONLY if her name is on the ballot. The Marriott Wardman massacre was decided in the back room away from cameras. Michigan wants to impress Dr. Dean and they thought by tossing Obama free delegates Michigan can vote early in the primary in 4 years. Get real, it will never happen if you gave every Michigan delegate to Obama.. Obama's name was not on the ballot in Michigan so he should not have received...NO delegates. Democrats are embarassed by the DNC cheating Hillary Clinton. We all know she is the best candidate for our nation. Remember for Democrats to win, Hillary MUST be on our ballot.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/10/2008 1:51:36 AM

      Here we go with the bogus "18 million votes" thing again.
      Hillary got more Operation Chaos votes than Obama did and she still LOST!
      Get over it already.
      The Clintons lost because the majority of Americans do not want them in the White House where Bill will have another 4 years to screw interns and embarrass us with his sleezy behavior.

      • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 3:05:14 PM

        "LOST"? Has Barry secured the nomination? He cannot "win" anything. He will be handed the nomination.

  • Posted By: bereal @ 08/10/2008 2:36:18 AM

    If it weren't for Obama, what would Howard Fineman write about?
    I think Howard has a crush on Obama.

    • Posted By: pyramid @ 08/10/2008 2:37:57 AM

      Most of the media has a crush on Obama!

      • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 2:55:41 PM

        come by and visit us at http://citizensagainstproobamamediabias.blogspot.com/

        see the lineup of mancrushers.

  • Posted By: Jo Chicago @ 08/10/2008 2:41:53 AM

    The Clintons owe Obama nothing. Let him tank by himself. His made up personal history will catch up with him soon.

    • Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 08/10/2008 10:36:26 AM

      You missed one bit of very important news. If Obama loses, and Hillary and Bill are spiteful, how many dems would back her 2012? Thats what I thought you would say. Think big picture ;-)

      • Posted By: cobalt6 @ 08/10/2008 12:24:37 PM

        Most democrats would back Hillary in 2012!

  • Posted By: hiramfoster @ 08/10/2008 9:04:23 AM

    As much as anything, this column highlights the dangers of following a Washington based approach to presidential campaigning. It didn't work for Hillary, and it won't work for Barack.

    To put it bluntly as I can, we ordinary working class Americans couldn't care less about what Washington Based Democratic insders say at private cocktail parties and dinners. They represent the last gasp of the old Democratic Party fighting a rear guard action to retain their relevance, in this case by whining to establishment reporters. It is vital for the success of our party in the fall that they lose this battle.

    • Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 08/10/2008 10:29:39 AM

      I think my friend you have it backwards. The Dems are gaining in strength and in numbers, while article after article and after commentary after commentary including Fox news says the GOP is in trouble.

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 08/10/2008 9:39:53 AM

      It's vital for your party alright. The G OLD P has one foot in the grave and the other foot on a banana peel. It's essential that the war continue, it's essential that the tax breaks for the rich continue, it's essential that the big oil companies those other companies that are crippling our country continue doing their thing. that's what you party stands for and you'd be lost without the mouth-breather s that support those policies.

      An ordinary working class American you're not.

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