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  • Posted By: giovannis @ 08/11/2008 10:15:08 PM

    If the Dems loose this time, blame the Clintons not the Republican. They seem to work in tandems against Obama.

  • Posted By: oklok @ 08/11/2008 8:45:25 PM

    Mattie @ http://citizensagainstproobamamediabias.blogspot.com/

    Did you look into election fraud/irregularities? Indiana, Nevada, Texas, Ohio and Indiana? Those are the ones I know about. I'll see what I can find. Thanks for setting up your blog. The denial that it exists is worse than the fact that it does.

  • Posted By: News and Notes @ 08/11/2008 4:26:32 PM

    I find it curious that Fineman was falling all over Obama throughout the primaries, constantly reminding us that Obama doesn't need the Clintons, and now admits he does. Some in the MSM have done a tremendous disservice by bashing Hillary all through the primaries, and now that she has lost, they finally are scrutinizing Obama

    • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 4:32:40 PM

      howard saw barregomaniak during his world tour and was pist. howards seems to have developed some sort of conscience...even alter didn't go all out. they have come to the realization that no matter what sen clinton does -- her supporters will make up there own minds. anyone who says she is not following thru and doing her part is not an obamafan. and the more the botlets get on clinton supporters the farther and farther they get from every voting for him. maybe howard can wake the rest of the botlets out of their messianic trance. no matter barrys plan of dissing clinton supporters--the MSM has finally gotten a clue...too little too late.

      • Posted By: News and Notes @ 08/11/2008 4:37:47 PM

        unfotunately, months too late

        • Posted By: oklok @ 08/11/2008 8:37:54 PM

          I'll guess we'll see how much the MSM really cares about objectivity after they missed (sat on) Edwards.

  • Posted By: oklok @ 08/11/2008 7:39:21 PM

    Howard Fineman:

    You (MSM) may be reluctant to admit, but Obama needs proper vetting

    And Obama's reluctant to admit a lot of things.

    And the MSM is even more reluctant to ask.

    What are you going to write in your memoir? What do you think the last chapter in your book about Obama will be?

  • Posted By: pyramid @ 08/10/2008 1:11:17 AM

    If I was Hillary Clinton I would not want my name on a loosing ballot with Obama. The DNC should realize the mistake they made before the election and nominate Hillary at the convention! Hillary Clinton could win the election , Obama can't!!

    • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/10/2008 1:50:55 AM

      Oh yeah, and loosing, is spelled losing. If you're going to insult someone at least spell right.

      • Posted By: pyramid @ 08/10/2008 2:36:29 AM

        Excuse me I didn't know this was a spelling contest!

        • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 2:56:50 PM

          only rebuttal they have...hate, personal attacks on the poster and barry's opponent.

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/11/2008 1:06:08 AM

            God help us when Obama loses. . . can you imagine the reaction by the Obamabots based on a good many of blind faith worshipping and name calling that goes on by many on this site? It ought to be interesting. Glad I invested in a brown hard helmet back in the primaries cuz I meet want to keep wearing it after the GE.

            • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 7:28:15 PM

              i live in chicago...its a light blue helmet for me.

  • Posted By: VoteResponsibly08 @ 08/11/2008 7:26:00 PM

    Please do not call on the Clinton's...I will have to vote for Obama! and I don't want to.
    The DNC, Delegates, Super delegates and back stabbers..BIG MISTAKE!! HUGE MISTAKE!!! HUGE!

  • Posted By: David G @ 08/11/2008 10:22:31 AM

    When I was a kid growing up, I played sports... I won some, I lost some. But what my parents were proudest of was my sportsmanship. I never liked to lose, but always congratulated the person who bested me. It's sad that Bill Clinton's parents weren't able to teach him the same. D.

    • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 3:58:04 PM

      he would gladly shake the hand of someone who bested him...barry hasn't.

      • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 08/11/2008 5:52:58 PM

        The etiquette of such interactions is that the winner goes and says "good race" to the loser, not the other way around. Obama is the one who never learned how to play nice. He is the great divider, not a uniter. We can't afford to let him divide our nation the way he has divided the democratic party.

        • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 7:17:21 PM

          yes. even the barry supporters in the MSM were shocked about how he has been such an ungracious "winner". has that made them step back and look harder?

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/11/2008 6:49:53 PM

      I try not to blame parent for all of a child's bad behavior. It could be that his parents tried and he failed to listhen. God knows as a adult he still acts like a child---self indulgent and selfish. Then again it seems that Bill's mother had her share of issues too....

  • Posted By: tommyjonq @ 08/11/2008 10:12:49 AM

    bill's not mad about name-calling. bill's mad about losing control over the party. hillary's (and everyone else's) bundlers don't "love the democratic party." they love the power that comes from buying influence. from winners. politics is not a hobby for these people. it's their reason for living. barack and bill are battling for supremacy over the party. IF barack wins without bill, it's bye-bye bill and hillary and chelsea forever. and they know it. IF he loses, he loses everything.

    • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 4:11:25 PM

      "bill's not mad about name-calling. bill's mad about losing control over the party."

      you've been talking to bill? and why in the heck do you have chelsea in your comments?

      • Posted By: loriw @ 08/11/2008 6:52:28 PM

        I've heard from more than one person on these blogs that they feel that Chelsea should run for POTUS.
        Guess they didn't learn in history class that the US is NOT a monarchy.

  • Posted By: Perception @ 08/11/2008 12:34:45 PM

    I am surprised by this election process. Sen. Obama and his supporters are touting a new way of politics in Washington that would erase the old divisiveness. However, when it comes to the Clinton's his supporters have nothing but terrible things to say about them. If that is the way that they and he treat people who have fought for civil rights and equality all of their lives one can only imagine how they will treat people who have disagreed with them and haven't championed their causes. Clinton blurted out the other day that he is not a racist. The reason why is that the talking heads have made it clear that they believe that if you support someone other than Obama (and you are a democrat) then the only reason can be that you are a racist. Obama is not even willing to do the things that will heal his own party. It is a far stretch to believe he can do anything to bring people around that honestly disagree with him if he is elected. I don't care what the Clintons do I have had it with the democrats and will become an independent and I don't give a damn what anyone thinks about my reasons.

    • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 6:32:10 PM

      nor exactly the TRANSCENDER OF RACE! GREAT UNIFIER! CHANGE! he spouts. what was that race speech about in philly? to expose his own bias? typical white woman comment? why can't folks see that his actions never follow his words?

    • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 08/11/2008 5:27:13 PM

      Obama doesn't offer unity or a new way of doing things. He is old style Chicago pay to play politics and he has divided the democratic party on the basis of age, race sex, educational status and urban/rural culture. It isn't surprising that in a year when the republicans should have counted themselves lucky to get a third of the vote they have a close race and might even win the white house.

      The DNC planned to get Barry nominated, they've been pushing his nomination ever since 2004 -- why do you think they scheduled this year's convention on the anniversary of MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech? They set the primary schedule so Barry could get ahead by manipulating the caucuses (which are not accessible for most working people and mothers with children), and then took away HRC's votes in MI and FL, not even adhering to their own rules about how states that violate their schedule would be penalized.

      Yes, the DNC has dug their own ditch, and they just keep digging with all this stuff about the Clintons not supporting Barry.

      Barry doesn't want them, so let him go it on his own. Let him lose all by himself since he is so sure he can win without them.

      I don't want HRC on his ticket. I wouldn't vote for him even if she were his VP nominee. I won't vote for a presidential candidate who admits using cocaine for years.

    • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 3:20:11 PM

      built in excuse if he loses...which is why he keeps bringing it up

      6/21 Barry: "And did I mention he's black?"

      Berlin: "I know that I don't look like the Americans who've previously spoken in this great city,"

      July 29: "It's a leap, electing a 46-year-old black guy named Barack Obama." (true. tho not because you're black barry.)

      July 30 "You know, he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."

      July 31 "He's not patriotic enough. He's got a funny name. You know, He doesn't look like all of those other presidents on the dollar bills."

      July 31 "They're going to try to say 'well, you know, he's got a funny name' and 'he doesn't look like all the presidents on the dollar bills and the five-dollar bills."

      he keeps reminding folks he's black when he wants them to look at him and see a man not a back man. how crazy is this man?

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/11/2008 4:19:22 PM



        Thanks for posting that summary of race-conscious comments he has been making. It is so true. But that is what Obama is all about. When you or others reading this have time, read this article. It is a little lengthy but definitely will tell you something about Obama and his early years in Politics and 'his style'.

        Weekly Standard
        Barack Obamas Lost Years
        by Stanley Kurtz
        08/11/2008, Volume 013, Issue 45

        The Senator Obamas tenure as a State legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, Race-Conscious Liberal.


        Article:
        http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp?pg=1

    • Posted By: busby @ 08/11/2008 2:36:13 PM

      You are absolutely right. Obama is a divider, not a uniter. The moderate democrats have been called every name in the book because they don't get with Obama's program. That is the new left's idea of democracy. My way or the highway.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/11/2008 5:34:00 PM


    TOPIC: Russia and Georgia situation going on now. . . and how it relates to McCains stance on Russia

    While Obama is body surfing and golfing in Hawaii, the press is all a-buzz about McCain and the foresight he has had given the hard line he has drawn with Russia in the past, which he stated in his foreign policy speech back in March '08. Read on. . . .

    John McCain 'Prescient' On Russia And Putin

    It is particularly a moment where John McCain can claim to have been prescient. -- The Washington Posts David Broder

    The Washington Posts David Broder: It is particularly A Moment Where John McCain Can Claim To Have Been Prescient. NBC's DAVID GREGORY: David Broder, is this a 3 a.m. moment for foreign policy for these candidates?

    WASHINGTON POST's DAVID BRODER: It is and it is particularly a moment where John McCain can claim to have been prescient. Because in his basic foreign policy speech two months ago and in an interview that I did with him last week, he draws a very sharp line when it comes to Russia. He says these people are being aggressive and imperialist. There is no confusion, in his mind, about the character of the Putin-Medvedev government and he is prepared, I think, to make the case that this is a demonstration of exactly what he has been arguing for. (NBC's "Meet The Press," 8/10/08)

    VIDEO of Foreign Policy Speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXaAVSQs1eU

    Watch David Broder This Morning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlwSigcsK5U

    The Politicos Jonathan Martin: John McCain 'Appears To Have Been Ahead Of The Curve In His Assessment That Moscow Was The Bad Actor Here.' When violence broke out in the Caucasus Friday morning, John McCain quickly issued a statement that was far more strident toward the Russians than that of President Bush, Barack Obama and much of the West. But, as Russian warplanes pounded Georgian targets far beyond South Ossetia this weekend, Bush, Obama and others have moved closer to McCains initial position. It has been a rough few weeks for McCain on the foreign policy front, paging Dr. Maliki, but he appears to have been ahead of the curve in his assessment that Moscow was the bad actor here. (Jonathan Martin, McCain Prescient On Russia? The Politico, 8/10/08)


    (Continued in Reply area below)

    • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 08/11/2008 6:31:18 PM

      Sen. McCain can't even read from notes. He stumbled and bumbled his way through his short statement about Russia's attack on Georgia. If not attributable to old age, what's wrong with him?

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/11/2008 5:37:04 PM



      (Continued from my post up above)


      Chicago Tribunes Jill Zuckman: It Is Not Just This Part Of The World, But Senator McCain Has Been To So Many Exotic Places Like Waziristan And South Ossetia, And He is Very Comfortable With These Issues. He Knows What He Thinks And itis not just this part of the world, but Senator McCain has been to so many exotic places like Waziristan and South Ossetia, and he's very comfortable with these issues. He knows what he thinks. He has been in contact with the leaders involved in these places for many, many years. So it is really sort of a perfect thing for him. And so the question is each time something like this pops up randomly, we may see a cautiousness on the one hand by Senator Obama who has not been dealing with these things for years and maybe a little more aggressive voice from Senator McCain. And I will just tell you his favorite thing to say about Vladimir Putin is, When I look into his eyes, I see a K, a G and a B. He hass been very, very tough on Putin for quite some time. (Fox News Fox News Sunday, 8/10/08)

      The Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol: McCain Was Right About Putin. McCain was right about Putin. He warned about Russia under Putins ambitions. He wanted Russia excluded from the G-8. (Fox News Fox News Sunday, 8/10/08)

      Click Here To Read More About John McCain's Trip To South Ossetia In 2006: http://georgia.usembassy.gov/ev_0826292006.html

      Watch Jill Zuckman And Bill Kristol This Morning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6W0BywD-zY

      Definition of prescience: pres·cience noun

      WORD MEANS: Apparent knowledge of things before they happen or come into being; foreknowledge; foresight, prediction, anticipation.

      VIDEO of Foreign Policy Speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXaAVSQs1eU

      WORDS of speech:
      http://www.cfr.org/publication/15834/

  • Posted By: Alamerica @ 08/09/2008 5:46:31 PM

    The most visible scar on Obama's skin is his long-term association with Wright and other radical groups. If Bill Clinton could dissolve this scar with his famous tongue muscle, it would show geniune support. Barack should benefit from Bill's tongue even when Bill urinates down Barack's leg at the same time.

    • Posted By: what? @ 08/09/2008 5:59:51 PM

      is this the obama blogger talking point of the week? enough already.

      • Posted By: mbateman52 @ 08/10/2008 3:21:50 PM

        Clintons should follow Reagan's 1976 example. They should give Obama lukewarm support. Watch him go down to defeat organize for 2012.

        Obama "won" because he had the media, including Howard Fineman, cheering him on 24/7 while trashing the Clintons. He also won because he shamelessly played the race card , portraying the Clintons as racists.

        Hillary won the majority of registered Democrats votes. She also won the big swing states needed to win the general election. She would have easily defeated McCain.

        I hope Hillary does not accept any VP slot. She is better of keeping her distance.


        Obama's media groupies won't be able to save him in the general election. He is just another corrupt Chicago politician and the republicans will make sure voters find out about his thin resume and lack of accomplishment.

        • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 6:19:26 PM

          i have wondered why she hasn't said anything about the roll call until now. she knows how close the race is. is she capitulating for a consideration to be named later? or does she not want have anything to do with him? personally i think she was crushed but she has shown that shes in it to win (democrats). what did it take to walk into the senate who voted to impeach her husband? barry can't stand anyone saying even the slightest things about michelle. bill's another matter...and rightly so. to have the first black presidential candidate smear the president most devoted to civil rights is beyond disgusting.

    • Posted By: Edbanksusa @ 08/09/2008 9:40:44 PM

      This is a very bizzare and pathetic opinion I have ever read on any blog. 10% o the black folks voted for dumb Bush and we ended up with the most disastrous presidency in the history of the republic. Bill Clinton has done more for black people than all past presidents put together. Bill Clinto is the only Dem ever to win the whitehouse twice in a row since FDR. So what has Obama done to deserve the Clintons campaigning for him? I am amazed how people are blogging from their rear ends on this website. When you discredti and disrespect an icon and a legend of the democratic party, do not expect an enthusiastic helping hands. Obama could have given the VP ticket to Hillary and honestly unite the party but no, his ego will not let him. No his brash, caustic and venomous wife wont let him, he would rather make demands of the Clintons as though Bill killed his father and owe his a donkey and acre of land. The Clintons are too generous and forgiving after the insults of the primary they are still working for the party and pompous Obama is demanding for more, or else he will give the NY senate seat to an african america as though it belongs to him in the first place. Talk about entitlement, bully, ignorance, arrogance and stupidity, you will find all of that in Obama's disgusting attitudes.

  • Posted By: Aljazzer @ 08/09/2008 7:54:02 PM

    I feel as if I may have made a grave error in judgement when in the early going of the campaign, I supported and voted for Mr. Obama..............It is apparent, now, that it is almost too late, but Senator Clinton is the more viable, electable, down to earth person to run this country. PLEASE someone correct the mistake that I did with my vote in the primary and let's see what we can do at the convention.....PLEASE!!!!

    • Posted By: what? @ 08/09/2008 9:03:24 PM

      the option remains to write Sen Clinton in on the ballot.

      • Posted By: BarelyBreathing @ 08/10/2008 3:22:19 AM

        Those of you who voted for Obama, and are now saying that you made a mistake and prefer Hillary, were more than likely not sincere about your vote in the first place. I believe that many white people may have voted for Obama just to ease their guilt for being racist, and now that it looks like Obama might actually become the President of our United States, your natural colors, your racist colors have re-surfaced. This country is racist in a huge way, and this Presential election is tainted with rascism. The truth is that many white people are afraid of having a black person to lead our country, even if he's half white. I'm certainly not proud to be an Amerian, it's an embarrassment.

        • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 3:08:08 PM

          You really don't have a clue of what racism is. First of all because you are white and second of all you don't even realize that the words you write are racist in themselves.

          • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 6:14:44 PM

            no but these white folks are certain that everyone who doesnt vote for obama is a racist.

      • Posted By: pyramid @ 08/10/2008 1:23:45 AM

        Writing in Hillarys name will not change this election, it would probably end up helping Obama! The only real way to show the DNC and the Media that they made a mistake worshiping Obama and not supporting Hillary is to vote for McCain!

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/09/2008 9:18:57 PM

      Try not to blame yourself cuz it was not your fault. Between the DNC shoving Obamas vote down the democrats throats and the MainStreamMedia portraying Obama as THE ONE, I can see how many people got misled. But at least you are seeing the light now. Either write her in on the ballot in the GE or vote McCain which would even moreso assure that Hillary would be freed up to run again in 4 years. Do some research on McCain like I have been doing and you will definitely learn that he is NOT just another Bush. That is a mantra that Obamas campaign has been repeatedly using, that and the He Is Old mantra too, when in actuality he is in good health for his age as a medical background check confirmed and has even recently within the past year or 2 hiked the entire rim of the Grand Canyon with his sons. He still has alot of steam in his engine. Dont let Obama supporters fool you. Go to his website and start checking him out. I am an Independent leaning to support MCcain. Just thought I would share cuz I was a Hillary supporter from the very start. : - )

  • Posted By: mcminvt @ 08/11/2008 10:21:24 AM

    He doesn't need the Clintons, he has Newsweek. He has this nominaction because the press (specifically MSNBC and Newsweek) coronated him right after Iowa. Each day it becomes more apparent how unprepared and unseasoned this man is; all Newsweek is concerned about is educating the voting public on how he found his faith & that he is not a Muslim. Who cares. Educate me on how he is qualified for the job he is seeking. His resume lacks substance.

    • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 08/11/2008 5:57:29 PM

      And how many papers and inches of advertising do you think they will sell when they turn on him and the hope fades? All the MSM is concerned about is good copy that will sell ad space. they don't care that they hoodwinked the American voters with all their positive hype.

    • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 4:05:25 PM

      how about the absolute giddiness by the MSM when they thought sen clinton was going to lose NH. and then there was jesse i want to cut barry's nuts off jackson's son who wanted to "investigate" sen clinton's tears. haha

  • Posted By: gandolina @ 08/11/2008 10:21:51 AM

    Don't you think the definition of a losing candidate might be one that makes half the people in his own party think that maybe the other party's candidate is not so bad after all?

    Those that are still democrats even get separate nights on which to tune into this head-on collison of ego and irresponsibility.



    Not to mention causes millions of people like me to decide after a lifetime that it turned out we really are no longer Democrats, after all.

    We will go to our graves re-defining ourselves as independents.



    The Democratic Party meanwhile has redefined its own self as the Party of Presumption with a Pop-star for a nominee. And a party machine presuming that we would all fall in line.

    Then there are the Obamabots presuming that if they alternately bully and genuflect enough that will make us see their reason.

    And then there is the core presumption- that on Day One when so many of us vigorously objected to having some unknown with no experience and no tangible track record --we were derided and demeaned as unreasonable. Right up until today.



    You may be having a convention. But what use is having a party if half of us don't feel the need to be there?

    There was that presumption that for some reason Americans would all put party before patriotism and be loyal Democrats. God knows why.

    When was the last time Democrats were loyal to us?



    On the GOP end, they've found out that they can put up even a taxidermied , doddering old symbol of the status quo and still win this one.



    No one seems to have let the Democratic Selection Committee in on the idea that in a general election, it's the majority that gets the winner, and what they have insisted on foisting on us --- an egotistical hologram iconic of partisanship and entitlement is no different than the been there done that past eight years.



    All Barack Obama is doing is, unfortunately, making John McCain look way more plausible. It's come to that.

    We need some actual candidates . Not some real travesties.

    I'm writing in Hillary Clinton. It's folly to squander a vote on two such bad ideas.



    -gala1

    • Posted By: mawrm @ 08/11/2008 10:38:36 AM

      Your post is a perfect example of what makes you Clinton supporters seem delusional. Long post, but short on actual political fact. Are you voting for a personality or are you voting for someone to execute a specific set of policies that you care about? In post after post, it is blazingly obvious that you Clinton supporters are voting only for personality as there is NO way, someone who "supports" Clinton would vote for McCain over Obama based on policies. McCain is on the opposite end of the spectrum politically speaking, on health care, on education, on taxes - the core bread and butter issues that affect the lives of every American. It's like you guys are permanently stuck in a 1990s time warp, back in the time when the Clinton years were great and John McCain was "the maverick". These days are long over and they're not coming back, even with Hillary Clinton in the big chair. It's August 2008. McCain is no longer "the maverick' but a bosom buddy to the bankrupt bush administration. Hillary Clinton lost the Dem primaries and her campaign is $20+million in the hole. These are the REALITIES you guys don't wish to face. And you can add Bill Clinton to your deluded bunch as he clearly can't believe "he" has lost and is still upset about it.
      The world moves on. You have a choice to remain stuck in the past or look forward and help usher in a brighter future.

      • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 08/11/2008 5:55:54 PM

        Actually, I'm voting McCain because he is closer to the center than Obama.

        And I won't vote for a man who admits using cocaine for years.

      • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 4:03:40 PM

        where did she say she was voting for McCain? Anyone can write anyone in on the ballot -- you going to attack all of them? "lost the Dem primaries"? LOST? has barry already been given the nomination...officially? if he's already won, then why does he care if Sen Clinton's on the roll call? and i must say you have the most appealing way of going about party unity, don't you?

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/11/2008 11:35:54 AM

        Of course you are right. I don't get it. Iposted earlier that it's childish to act the way that they are.None of them would want their children or family to behave in this fashion.

  • Posted By: stpblk @ 08/10/2008 9:21:34 AM

    Mr Fineman,mark this day and this time.Barack will loose the general election.The Democrats and you,the MSM have made a wrong choice out of hatred to Hillary Clinton.I am a black man who will not be accused of racism when I will vote for John Mc Cain.
    PS:I voted for Al Gore and John Kery.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/10/2008 11:11:51 AM

      Nobody hated Hillary Clinton. She just got upstaged by Barrack.

      • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 2:49:29 PM

        haha do you think our brave and injured troops lying in pain in a hospital on foreign soild felt a bit "upstaged" by the non-voting Germans?

        And why exactly was anyone surprised that the German crown was mesmerized by an egomaniac with his own personal agenda backed by media propaganda?? And they didn't quite seem to object to the raised arm "salute" Obama gave them, did they?

        • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 6:14:55 PM

          I was surprised he did that but not that the MSM didn't show the pix. Instead Bob Herbert ranted on and on about phallic symbols. makes you wonder why he's got it on his mind.

          • Posted By: katvan @ 08/10/2008 11:49:14 PM

            He's the Jesse of the media except with lots of girlie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those look kind phallic don't they? Freud would love him.

            • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 5:53:58 PM

              herbert is very disturbed. everything is RACE! HES BLACK! HES BLACK!

              explain to me when white blue collar workers (now low wage earners) stopped being a demographic and something racist? and exactly how many black blue collar voters were voting for sen clinton? utter madness.

            • Posted By: 12waz @ 08/11/2008 5:02:51 AM

              he belongs at wrights church. and where does barry have wright stashed? what a coward, eh?

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 08/10/2008 9:53:13 AM

      Are you saying that you were a Hillary Supporter?

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/11/2008 9:58:24 AM

        B, I think sharenews wishes the Clintons would adopt her.

    • Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 08/10/2008 10:27:28 AM

      Obiously you have not been paying attention to Hillary campaigning on Obama's behalf, and Bill is going to be a keynote speaker. dumdedum

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/10/2008 10:19:48 PM

        Out of four days of the demoncratic convention, Hillary has a speaking engagement one day and Bill has another speech another day. So they are part of 2 out of the 4 days of the convention. I will be surprised if something unexpected doest happen. Just have this feeling.

    • Posted By: bathinker @ 08/10/2008 10:37:36 AM

      A vote for McCain is a vote against progress,iHe has no real ideas or solutions to move the country forward on any front - economic (which he admitted to not understanding), social (being more inclusive and building bridges between the "haves and the have-nots"), political (working the international scene). Hillary is my senator and I love her dearly,but it time for her & Bill to get in lock-step with the party FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATION.

      • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 2:51:16 PM

        "LOCKSTEP"? interesting word.

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 08/10/2008 9:28:48 AM

      Baloney!

  • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 08/11/2008 4:32:05 PM

    Obama is too arrogant to admit he needs anyone. Five tiers of photos of himself in his office says it all.

    • Posted By: josemarti @ 08/11/2008 5:51:49 PM

      Our Supreme Leader. His Highness, His Excellency, and His Holiness. Sub-Comandante, Mister, Senor, Senator Barack Hussein el Che Obama, graduate of Harvard, Emperor of Hyde Park, Prince of Chicago, Protector of Our Happiness, and Joy of Man's Desire requests that in order to eliminate the impression that he is grandiose, narcissistic, and elitist his soon to be subjects address him simply as Comrade Barry.

  • Posted By: jessied44 @ 08/10/2008 10:13:34 AM

    Sen. Obama sometimes comes across as having more bravado than self confidence. If he were truly ready for the job, he would be doing the one thing the Clintons can never resist: He would call them to service. He could have two formidable talents at the service of his administration. She would still be the best possible VP and he as the international charitable arm. That would take an enormous burden off the President and allow him to concentrate on the multiple problems of the nation, but Obama has to be secure enough to hold his position in space while making the best use of the "Team of Rivals"

    • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 2:46:08 PM

      Tell me HOWARD:

      if Obama was behind by about 120 pledged delegates and they were separated by less than 50K votes, would the obama camp allow their name not to be on the ballot?

      Would they sit tight and not complain about the behind closed door negotiation where his votes were given to Clinton even though she was not on the ballot?

      Would the MSM and Clinton camp be laughing at those bitter Obama fans for wanting to stage a rally?

      Would there not be a convention fight?

      How many delegates behind was Ted Kennedy? 700? Jesse Jackson? Howard Dean quit and had what around 120 delegates and his name was on the ballot.

      Do you really think the Clinton camp would just say "get over it already"?

      Do you think you could be honest? Just for once?

      • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 6:12:59 PM

        I see no one likes to comment on obvious facts. There is absolutely no way on this planet that if Clinton and Obama were reversed this would be going on.

        • Posted By: katvan @ 08/10/2008 11:47:27 PM

          they don't allow a roll call - sexism will be ABSOLUTELY 100% IRREFUTABLE and those Clinton supporters will never come back...no matter the issues. McCain can't overturn Roe v Wade in one term.

          • Posted By: juniperberry @ 08/11/2008 1:36:41 AM

            plus there could always be another Earl Warren,

            • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 5:50:49 PM

              as if the botlets would know who earl warren was.

  • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 3:42:03 PM

    Mr Howard Fineman:

    You are cordially invited to our blog: Citizens Against ProObama Media Bias. You will find plenty of Newsweek's finest featured. We are transferring over files from our other blog, so if you don't see your name at first...please be patient. Also, the posts may not necessarily be in chronological order.

    Please know that we are quite fond of your words, as they provide textbook examples to future journalists on how to avoid the pratfalls of bias and loss of journalistic integrity. The evidence itself will speak to how propaganda has influenced the most important and historic presidential election in modern history.

    Feel free to invite the rest of your colleagues--I will try to do so individually, but there are so, so, so many that we haven't had the chance yet to branch out to cover the propaganda blogs.

    We look forward to hearing from you because we don't in any way misquote or misinterpret your words. Feel free to comment. We promote equal opportunity and free speech so you will be allowed to post a rebuttal or whatever you wish.

    We are simple citizens. Our blog is not associated with any political party, candidate or organization. No one is benefiting financially. We were--and continue to be--appalled at the level pro-Obama media bias, so we began compiling video and print evidence of it. That is why it is taking so long to transfer over to the new site.

    Hoping to see you soon!
    Mattie for Citizens Against Pro-Obama Media Bias

    http://citizensagainstproobamamediabias.blogspot.com/

    • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 5:48:32 PM

      nice of you...but it'll never happen.

    • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 6:09:45 PM

      not a chance he will show up. if he possessed some integrity or was at all concerned about it he would have changed his writing and tv commenting. he will go down in history as a journalist who completely lost his way inside the fog of the messiah.

      • Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 08/10/2008 6:13:15 PM

        Of course there is media bias in every election or any news event. Four years ago there were no blogs available either. Until you have the money of Turner, Murdock et al, this is life on the Internet, television, print media, and radio. Freedom of speach, the old saying goes, don't like watching, reading, or hearing, MSM go and see a movie. What did people do before there was television and the Internet? Life is way too short to worry about bias that is not going away regardless of blogs, shmogs or any other name.

        • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 6:42:14 PM

          why do you feel the need to keep copying and pasting? if you really had something of interest to say, it would stand alone and not need to be repeated.

          • Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 08/11/2008 12:01:06 AM

            Because the posting that both you and Mattie are posting are the same bs over and over again. Saves me time for responding

      • Posted By: juniperberry @ 08/11/2008 1:32:28 AM

        i have a feeling Fineman's gonna be the first to wake up though. He say who barry was on the trip. Alter? forget it. He's trying to make his prediction true. I wonder what hos publisher thinks about the rave reviews his articles get?

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/10/2008 4:38:35 PM

      A good old "birds of a feather" place to gather. Commiserate and grumble about people expressing their opinions. There's now a contrary, Citizensagainsttheblogthatisagainstobama.blogspot.growlandbluster/. You just can't stay ahead in this world. Everybody's got a printer. They print what they please, whether you like it or not.

      • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/10/2008 4:40:26 PM

        It's in one of those amendments in that constitution that still lives. Freedom of something.

        • Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 08/10/2008 6:17:30 PM

          Mattie and Dick never heard of the constitution. ;-)

          • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/10/2008 6:51:27 PM

            Maybe they think that it is only a morning walk.

  • Posted By: mattie against MSM bias @ 08/10/2008 4:16:45 PM

    ps: We urge anyone at all who has proof or has an example of MSM bias that needs fact-checking to post it. We will investigate it for you or maybe someone has already and can post their evidence. We have run across so many people that have proof that we were urged to set up a public square. Be patient. It may take a couple of days to get the new blog switched over and organized. We are not exactly blog-savvy, so if someone knows how to transfer posts in chronological order, or according to topics (sexism, racism, Obama's own lies), or individual media (Newsweek, MSNBC, CNN), or *journalists* (Alter, Olbermann, Matthews...) or any other anything, your help will be greatly appreciated. Also, we are looking for folks who know how to splice video clips together. And we haven't had the time (there are examples everywhere) to get to blog evidence (Kos, Huffington, Slate...) so please post away.
    In the meantime, post here or on the Editor's page.

    Pro-Obama media bias exists. No doubt about it. Come and be heard -- once and for all.

    http://citizensagainstproobamamediabias.blogspot.com/

    • Posted By: xczy14 @ 08/11/2008 5:47:38 PM

      excellent. how about dowd & noonan?

    • Posted By: 12waz @ 08/11/2008 4:59:41 AM

      you go girl! I have plenty on presidential failure Howard Dean. i was going to send it to him on the DNC page. he says Sen Clinton's name shouldn't be on the ballot for "unity". haha. i can see why those PUMAs are pist. do you know he belongs to the same church (united church of Christ) as obama? unfortunately i don't know if he stopped by when he was in Chicago. i just saw the video of yeeeeeeee-haaaaaw! i'm still laughing. how does anyone take him seriously? bush? imagine if dean was in charge? he'd be passing out lithium. get that thing up and running. somebody will know how to archive the stuff.

    • Posted By: juniperberry @ 08/11/2008 12:31:10 AM

      Hey, Mattie. I don't know about blogs, but I have plenty on chills-up-my-leg Matthews. Did you see the CNN article?

      "Edwards affair: Was media part of a 'conspiracy of silence'?"

      Hello. How stupid do they think we are? Barry goes on vacation at the exact time his staunch supporter and probable convention speaker finally gets exposed? It's not like this was a giant mystery. And it gives you an idea of how little they vetted any of the Democratic nominees other than Sen Clinton. Edwards has been around how long? He's been a US Senator and ran for VP once and president twice. What democrat voter isn't familiar with Edwards? And how many with Barry? Olbermann ranted on about what a scandal it would be if Edwards was still in the race. Do you think it will shake the media out of their messiah mesmerism? The tide will turn. I hope you're part of it. See you there. No need to come here anymore. Tired of the immature teenagers who have nothing but uneducated drivel to spew.

    • Posted By: katvan @ 08/10/2008 10:10:01 PM

      It's only open to readers right now. Is it going to be totally open to the public? I've got stuff on Eugene Robinson, Anderson Cooper and Donna Brazile. Have you talked to Lanny Davis? I'm sure he has plenty of evidence. It was reprehensible what CNN did to him. I cannot believe how mesmerized all these people are. Have they always been like this? Why are they allowed to get away with it?

    • Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 08/10/2008 6:05:20 PM

      Of course there is media bias in every election or any news event. Four years ago there were no blogs available either. Until you have the money of Turner, Murdock et al, this is life on the Internet, television, print media, and radio. Freedom of speach, the old saying goes, don't like watching, reading, or hearing, MSM go and see a movie. What did people do before there was television and the Internet? Life is way too short to worry about bias that is not going away regardless of blogs, shmogs or any other name.

    • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/10/2008 6:00:33 PM

      EXCELLENT. Thank you. See you there. I have plenty to post.

  • Posted By: horatioatthegate @ 08/10/2008 9:09:21 PM














    They need, all four of them, to just suck it up and do what???s good for the Country:

    Hillary as Veep, Bill to the UN or World Bank, and Michelle as a gracious First Lady.

    Get over it, people. Our children???s future -- the world???s children???s future --- hangs by a thread, and Hillary's the only one acting like an adult.

    Obama will lose if he doesn't put her on the ticket. She???s got more gravitas --- and way more votes -- than any other possible VP candidate.


    • Posted By: cobalt6 @ 08/10/2008 9:27:33 PM

      Since Hillary was asked to speak at the DNC nomination it is petty clear Obama has decided not to ask Hillary to run as V.P. with him. Thats fine he should ask someone he is more comfortable with.

      • Posted By: katvan @ 08/10/2008 9:59:37 PM

        it was PERFECTLY clear when he appointed Caroline Kennedy. And to show his egomania, he hired Patty Solis Doyle. They don't want a roll call because if Sen Clinton's delegates voted as pledged, Obama would have to take her as VP. No way would she want that.

        • Posted By: cobalt6 @ 08/11/2008 1:03:59 AM

          You are right, Hillary would not want to be on the losing ticket with Obama.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/11/2008 9:28:48 AM

            My my, the sore losers are partying together. Good idea. You'll be prepared when you lose yet again in November. Obama wins.

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