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  • Posted By: johs @ 08/11/2008 12:44:14 PM

    I worked for a fairly large computer comoany in the 70's and 80's when it was imperative for large companies to have a balance of women and blacks. We had black undercover schemes many times to try and get a lawsuit going, fortunately it never did. I was lucky enough to be the top salesman out of 20 every year for many years, as such I was asked and voluteered to mentor both women and blacks. I enjoyed the experience and the individuals on their personal merit. Since our field was fairly complex and required very diligent on going self education only a few of these "minorities" ever made it. Most were given twice as long to succeed as their white male counterparts and were disproportion help to succeed. Women were able to get an initial meeting twice as many times as any experienced salesmen, however after the initial meeting they were able to discern aviable need for our product and create a winning sales campaign that would normally last 6 months to a year. The Black men were extremely hard working, but failed to do the after hours study our industry required. These failings were also true of their white counterparts. My only point is minority hires were given about twice as long to succeed as to fail. One of the women I mentored went on to be quite successful, her main talent was to find and use resources that could offset her lack of knowledge extremely well. The race card may be an issue, but it will probably be an excuse for the candidate just has no qualification. I for one just don't feel it is appropriate to grant so much wisdom gravitas to an liberal anti-war state senator who was not privvy to the same information as Hillary was. Also, to create an Iraq plan out of thin air where the only fact check is "is it possible to get our troops out inx months" and I not so sure it was a fact check versus a polled answer..

    • Posted By: effie1 @ 08/13/2008 9:40:08 PM

      ONE OF THE DUMBEST AND INCOHERENT COMMENTS EVER ARTICULATED ON ANY SITE!!!!
      AND, THIS GUY WAS A SALES MANAGER???? WOW!!!!!! YET, THIS FOOL WOULD BLAME AFFIRMATIVE ACTION 4 HIS DOWNFALL!!!! OMG, WHAT AN IMBECILE!!!! GOD HELP ME AND THIS WORLD!!!!

    • Posted By: TellitLikeItIs21 @ 08/11/2008 1:23:32 PM

      ..aand your point is...?

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/13/2008 9:30:30 PM

    Howard Fineman of NEWSWEAK can chime in any time here,as he appeared last night on COUNTDOWN[MSNBC],where Olberman,keeping the racial pot boiling, asked

    ''thats about six inches short of racism isn't it''? [ referring to Liebermans observation of Obamas precieved shortcomings in protecting the nation]. As we have seen,it becomes the media acting as Obamas press secretary that continuously injects race into the political equation. [as we saw from my earlier examples,these all took place within the period of a mere three days,in NEWSWEAK,the Washington Post,The New York Times,and SLATE].All examples provided were not from ''The McCain Camp''but from sychophantic scribbers calling themselves alleged ''journalists''. Quindlen now joins their ranks,whose reverse psyche ploy fools no thinking person.

  • Posted By: ICYEYES800 @ 08/13/2008 8:23:36 PM

    OLD BRAINLESS HARLEY, don''t you EVER go to work??? As I have previously stated I am assuming that somebody is paying your to make your mindless, unoriginal, and boring blogs...May I say, that whomever is paying you is getting shortchanged!!!! Run out of ideas?? You may want to read Obamanation....since you are voting strictly on COLOR, not on a mans' worth....it's the new '08 PLAGUE...every black person who is able will be voting for O, not because of who he is, or his integrity (in this case, lack of) but vote BLACK..now that is a perfect demonstration of STUPID!!!!

    • Posted By: effie1 @ 08/13/2008 8:42:56 PM

      and white racist dummies and twerps like yourself are doing the same.. so, your point?

  • Posted By: David Hawkins @ 08/11/2008 12:30:15 PM

    The "Big Lie" that blacks use racism as an excuse for all their failures and disagreements? ARE YOU COMPLETELY INSANE, BLIND, OR JUST STUPID? My God! Last week they tried to make the point that GLOBAL WARMING WAS RACIST!!! I'm not making this up! Jesse Jackson even turned on Barak Obama himself when he suggested to the NAACP that blacks should be more responsible in their parenting, because there are so many illegitimate black children. Ask your black leaders point blank, and they will look you straight in the eye and tell you that it is the white man's fault that there are so many blacks commiting violent crimes in the city. They will also stand face to face and explain to you why it's o.k. for inner city black youths to aspire to be gangsta rappers and pimps, other than to stay in school and get legitimate jobs. If John McCain does happen to win the election-MY GOD! Blacks will come out of the woodwork with racist accusations and lawsuits. I expect Al Sharpton already has his first draft in his vest pocket as we speak, as will as the post-election rioting schedule.

    • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 08/11/2008 4:09:37 PM

      David Hawkins? Or do you mean David Dukes? What a f*cking racist moron you are. Your stupid azz is so ignorant it's laughable. But I like you, white boy. You're a dumbass cracker, and not afraid to show it. Most racists like you are afraid to admit they are racists, because when they spew red neck bull $hit like you did, they REALLY sound like trailor park white trash. You are the result of inbreeding and child molestation that goes on there--aren't you? Who the f*uck are black people's leaders? You got a white leader, dolt? And what negro did you ever hear say it was o.k. to be a pimp or gansta rapper, you dumbass honk*y? And by the way, whitey, you crackers buy the most rap crap. I can't stop laughing. And you're serious, too. Jesse Jackson, Al sharpton...are those the only blacks you rednecks know? You people keep throwing them in our faces like they represent us all. Riot, huh? The most riots ever committed were by you crazy crackers. Shut the hell up, moron--and go back to screwing your sheep.

      • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/13/2008 6:15:26 PM

        See you dont want to believe it but them black women were never raped by the white man. They loved that shyt. LOOOOOOOOVED IT

      • Posted By: denmill @ 08/12/2008 8:09:50 AM

        I think he is actually right! Most balck people blame racism for their laziness and lack of drive. Remember the comments of Jeremiah Wright. Is Mr. "Just words, just speeches.... a racist. as a black woman, I think he is.

        • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 08/13/2008 3:32:14 PM

          No way is your dumbass a black woman. You crackers kill me when you say something as stupid as you did about black people and think that you add some type of validity to it by claiming to be black. No black person would claim that black people are lazy and lack drive. But then again...you may be that minority black person who saw her mother get gang-raped by some red neck good ol' boys, and whose father bought home some piece of white trash. You just might hate yourself. You wouldn't be black, though--you'd be an ignorant ni&&er. Your kind faded away when the jim crw era did. No black has that type of self-hatred anymore. You're just another crazy, pedophile cracker.

          • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/13/2008 6:14:01 PM

            You raped my gramma bytch! I hate you

  • Posted By: jabadramo @ 08/11/2008 10:44:25 AM

    If anyone believes that the person who posted the below message is black I have a bridge to sell you. Most black people are not voting for Obama because he is black they are voting because he is a democrat. True black people vote democrat but not because they were told Repubs are evil but because we are more intune to social issues in America. We understand that there are plenty of poor people who are poor because they are lazy but we are also aware that many more people are poor because of inequality. We have been there so we know the pain.

    Posted By: denmill @ 08/11/2008 9:50:41 AM
    Comment: I am black and will not be voting for Obama because , I do not vote on the basis of race. I vote for my country and my pocket book. As an American, I do not trust Barack Hussein Obama. I have created enemies even among some relatives because I have cut the cord years ago and have decided to be an independent and vote on the issues. You need to know that at least 65% of African Americans only vote "Democrat" because their were told that all republicans are evil. About 15% of African Americans have never voted because they do not think that they can change anything. Being an African american, I can tell you that most blacks are voting for Obama just because he is black and Obama has played his card well. Black people are the most racist group there they hate white people for no reason that explained why Oprah chose to back up a black man rather than a woman for the presidency. Don't be foul!!

    • Posted By: denmill @ 08/12/2008 7:57:31 AM

      Trust me I am black but I was not born in the US. I had a discussion last week with my hairdresser who is black and was born and raised in Arkansas. I asked her why many Black naturalized American are so succesful and are able to learn the language and get higher education while many blacks who were born in US do not even have an high school education, she told me that he is because of racism. She told me that white people likes foreing black more than they like black americans that were born in the US. I did tell her that her rational did not make sense. If you speak the language, you have to do what it takes to better yourself. You have to stay of drug and stay away from welfare. You have to be proud and work hard for your family. You have to practice absteinence so that you do not become pregnance without an education or catch an SDT an expect others to pay the bills. Talking about bills, I can remember Bills Cosby being ridiculized by the black community for pointing out why things are so bad in the black community. Believe me I am a naturalized African American woman who have seen the world and is able to stand tall and do not blame others for any of my mistakes!!!!!!!!

      • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 08/13/2008 3:49:41 PM

        You are so stupid it's not even funny anymore. Even the racist red necks don't believe you're black--regardless of what $hit hole you crawled out of. Did they have T.V. or radio in the jungles where you hunted? Amos and Andy don't come on no more. Steppin' fletcher is dead ,too dumbass. No self-respecting black woman would say the dumbass crap you keep spewing. It's obvious that you have no education, either.

        • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/13/2008 6:11:59 PM

          Funny how all natralized African feel this way about black America huh LMAO fukin rapist!!!

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/11/2008 11:02:18 AM

      What complete Bullshyt. They are not voting for him because he's black my azz. I thought Hialry Clinton was a Democrat? Funny Because runnoing against a Democrat CLINTON for crying out loud Obama took 94% of the black vote. Now what were you saying again about he was not getting the black vote because he's black? Sorry buddy, the numbers are in. And you can't dispute the racism of black America. 94% against a Clinton/Democrat. And I thought you needed to know if Obama was black enough? Or was that democrat enough? Nope, pretty sure it was BLACK enough. And by the way OPRAH HAS NEVER BACKED A CANDIDATE OTHER THEN OBAMA BEFORE>>>>>EVER!!!!!!!!!!

      • Posted By: twodzoneg @ 08/11/2008 11:52:34 AM

        i am a black man.i have voted for a white president ever since i was old enough to vote.i would be insane to think that i would not vote for a black president now.especially one that is very viable.unlike white america we as a race don't have the luxury of WAITING OUR TURN. after slavery and years of discrimination the time is now.originallyt i thought that it was a bad idea for him to run now.not because he was incapable but because he would suffer from all the junk gwb left behind.but after 43 white presidents and the shape america is in what worse could he possibly do.after the last 8 years i'll take my chances.i don't hold it against todays generations but as a black man let me own the white race as property for one year and you tell me how you would feel about that.and i promise you it doesn't matter how long ago it was.there is always that sour feeling that stays with you that you know has nothing to do with todays white america

        • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/11/2008 12:48:05 PM

          I'm assuming you were born in the 1800's? Otherwise you must be stating that because my grnadmother was raped and murdered by a group of black men (4) I can hold the entire black race accountable for the next 10-11 generations. My grandma used to leave a bucket of pennies nickels dimes on her porch for halloweeen for the trick or treaters. 4 black guys broke into her home, demanded more money, tied her up, raped and murdered her. Should I hold you, your kids, your wife, accountable also?

          • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 08/13/2008 3:57:45 PM

            You are a fu*king liar. When ever your white women gave it up to a black man, they always cried rape.

            • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/13/2008 6:10:28 PM

              AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Very lucky man your still alive talkin bout my gramma. Sorry she couldnt cry rape with her throat slashed like that. Cincinnati Ohio here I would love to speak to you in person about your comments.

  • Posted By: Lincoln T. @ 08/11/2008 10:34:28 AM

    My father served in Vietnam and knows all about Hanoi Hilton. He also knows that the men that were in the Hanoi Hilton will not even speak to McSame. I am surprised no one else has picked up on the real facts behind McSame's offer of freedom and his refusal. If the enemy captures you, why on earth would they offer to let you go earlier than prisoners that were there much longer....Ding Ding Ding, that's right, you have given them all the information they need. Duh. This is why he has been blacklisted by his combat comrades. He told hte Viet Cong EVERYTHING. They got so much information from him, that he was useless, and they said you can go now. But he refused, so the country wouldn't think he dishonored every military code of silence. This is typical though of someone who graduates at the bottom of his class, crashes 5 different planes, kills over 100 sailors on the USS Forestal when he wet started his jet, his only command was a peace time training squadron, and got into politics only through our white affirmative action called nepotism. This guy is dangerous, only thinks of himself, and even said, he was not proud of America until he was seperated from it. He will destroy this country, and is not someone I want representing me on the world stage.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/11/2008 11:09:29 AM

      What a bunch of BS. Where do you get he wasn't pround of this country from? Oh you made that up. I remember Michelle Obama saying it, not McCain. Try not to seem so desperate, it shows badly.

      • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 08/13/2008 4:03:40 PM

        Oh-you mean the same way you made up that grandma story with the big, bad, black wolves at the door? Racist moron.

        • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/13/2008 6:03:47 PM

          You makin fun of what happened to my gramma mutha fuka?

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/13/2008 12:40:00 PM

    Just got my hands on the tentative schedule for the DNC Coventions opening night. Thought everyone would like to see it...........................

    Theme......We are the people we have been waiting for.

    Presentation of colors (weather permitting)...... Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, Former Domestic Terrorists and People Who Just Happen to Live in Obama's Neighborhood.

    Invocation....Rev. Jeremiah "Goddam Ameri-kkk-a" Wright, Obama Spiritual Advisor and Retired Pastor, Trinity United Church of Christ, Chicago

    Call to Order....Honorary Chairpersons: Chris "Tingling-Feeling-Up-His-Leg" Matthews, Keith "Somebody-Who-Can-Take-Her-into-a-Room-and-Only-He-Comes-Out" Olbermann, and Randi "Clinton's a whore" Rhodes

    Introduction of Michelle Obama...Mrs. Louis Farrakhan, Chicago

    Note: Nation of Islam leader, the Rev. Louis Farrakhan, who had a previously scheduled engagement with Muammar al-Gaddafi, sends his regrets.

    Address: Michelle Obama on....Why America is, Just Downright Mean

    Taped Greeting......Antoin "Tony the Fixer" Rezko, U.S. Federal Prison Facility, Chicago

    Keynote Address,,,,Bitterness... delivered by His Excellency, Raila "Hands Dripping with Blood" Odinga

    Benediction...... Father Michael "Hillary-Believed-that-She'd-Win-Because-She's-White" Pfleger... Obama Spiritual Advisor and Pastor of St. Sabina, Chicago

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 08/13/2008 3:13:20 PM

      Holypants, I can't tell you how NOT funny you are. The closer it gets to election time, the closer you start slipping into darkness. What is funny, though, is that Billary thought she'd win and deserved the nomination--just because she's white. Now that's funny and pathetic at the same time.

      • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/13/2008 5:42:17 PM

        You are definately the authority on pathetic. Exclusive club, you of course are the president.

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/13/2008 5:56:39 PM

          Yep. Defending Mr. HolyRoller. Nice to see you did not threaten him. Mr. Mo-nay. Yep.

  • Posted By: magaisa @ 08/12/2008 12:37:26 PM

    Bravo! As a black man I find I have to question my every judgement at work in case one day I have to defend my actions. This is something my fellow caucasian colleagues do not even have to think of let alone imagine....To your point, we in the black community debate the concept of meritocracy...we believe you need to earn the right to sit among kings and that nothing comes on a silver platter, but all we ask is an even playing field that has been denied our lot for hundreds of years. Barak is not a messiah, he is a hard working black man who has proven that with hard work all is possible. As America is a becon of hope to the world, Barak is a becon of hope to every black kid growing up in our ghettos in America.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/13/2008 5:53:30 PM

      Who are responsible for ghetto's? The people who live in them or the people who supply the free housing? Where do you apply the blame? Do you make excuses or accept the repercussions for your actions? And you left out the hard working black man with white dna coursing through his veins. Just a lil detail you left out. I got you though homie......

  • Posted By: TellitLikeItIs21 @ 08/11/2008 1:17:47 PM

    A wonderfully insightful and articulated piece. Thank you.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/11/2008 10:44:53 PM

      I think I shall throw up now.

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/13/2008 4:42:05 PM

        Somehow, most bloggers figured you would not agree.

  • Posted By: ragiolli @ 08/11/2008 1:37:10 PM

    This article is perhaps the very best that I have seen related to the presidential campaigns. There is nothing that I can see in this expertly written and organized text that can be picked apart. We need more stories like this one that tells it "as it really is." Please write more articles on this and related topics.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/11/2008 2:24:22 PM

      Pick it apart???? Are you insane? The whole damn article was the OPINION of the writer!!!!!!!!! LMAO

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/13/2008 4:41:18 PM

        Now don't play the caucasion card. It seems all you do. "I'm just a poor white guy, and why should black people get all the breaks" is just strange to read.

    • Posted By: TellitLikeItIs21 @ 08/11/2008 1:47:53 PM

      Ditto on the comment. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either incredibly oblivious or intentionally in denial.

  • Posted By: doctorfixit @ 08/11/2008 2:41:36 PM

    When 95%+ are voting for the "get whitey" party, there can be no question about it: black anti-european racism is the seond most prevalent form of racism - right behind Mexican anti-black racism, which is #1.

    I defy you to pick up any mainstream liberal newspaper on any day and not find an article somewhere in it with a headline like this:

    "GLOBAL WARMING THREATENS BLACKS MORE THAN WHITES"

    To probe that Quindlen is a liar, you only need to look a what blacks are doing to Ward COnnerly. Any black who dares to step off the Democrat marxist planation gets lynched. Liberals are the most intolerant people of all.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/11/2008 3:29:51 PM

      When I read your post I almost cried lol 100 % accurate good post

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/13/2008 4:37:28 PM

        Too bad you didn't read the article. It was about you.

  • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/11/2008 4:16:17 PM

    To all honkies, crackers, wanna be's, whiteboys, blue eyed devils........


    Prove your not a racist, VOTE FOR OBAMA !!!!!!!!

    If you don't, we know you crackers are RACIST!!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: josemarti @ 08/11/2008 4:31:43 PM

      Mr. Sportlock09: Your post shows that you are ignorant of the basics of logic and the scientific method. We cannot prove a negative. .

      • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/11/2008 6:18:36 PM

        Mr Josemarti,
        No actually Im living in the twillight zone with all the rest of the honkies, crackers, and racist bigots whom are very angry because we missed the imaginary line that give you a great life with no boundries simply because we are white. And to think I busted my azz in school all those years. All these damn 61 hr work weeks to get by. And you mean to tell me because Im white everything should be gravy?

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/13/2008 4:34:31 PM

          You went to school? I thought you just threatened to beat up bloggers all day with your good friend "Mo-nay". You tough talking scary guy. Did you and Icyeyes get together for pu-pu's?

  • Posted By: SusanPF @ 08/11/2008 10:19:59 PM

    Hey, I'm white and I understand exactly what the writer is saying. To me it is sad that Obama has to be constantly on guard against calling attention to being black. As if you all can't see it. It's not a secret that will only come out if someone mentions it. Obama is a good example of what a person can achieve with not much to start with, unlike John McCain who, because of his father and grandfather, was able to get into the Naval Academy and finish fourth from the bottom of his class. Perhaps Obama appreciated it more since he had to work harder at it.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/13/2008 4:24:05 PM

      Good post lost on the blog under mine. Mr. Obama had a scholarship that he had to maintain. He was a law professor and has speaking, communications and resolution capabilities that far outweigh Mr. McCain's. Probably because he did not have people taking tests for him.

    • Posted By: kew498 @ 08/11/2008 11:07:07 PM

      Are you serious? On the campaign trail, Obama often incorporates some story of growing up black and the difficulties he faced. What he fails to mention is that he too was privileged; just like McCain. Obama's campaign paints a picture that he was raised by a poor grandmother in a highrise tenement, but in fact he attended Punahou School, which is a private, co-educational, nonsectarian college preparatory school. Then attended Columbia & Harvard Law. The Punahou School has produced social elitists for over 100 years. Doesn't sound like so racially oppressed to me. Don't believe it? Research it!

  • Posted By: emr2000 @ 08/12/2008 10:32:45 AM

    LouisianaBB - your comments have to be the most ingorant (and insulting) commentary I've read in a while. Since when does someone who is ashamed of his country go through the trouble of running for the highest office in the country? If it's so easy to get where he is simply by being "non-white", then why haven't others done it before? Instead of focusing on the perceived advantages that African-Americans get for being black (which only make sense in the mind of anindividual with no understanding of history), you should focus on some of the unfair advantages that whites benefit from every day. Obama will be a wonderful President and make history, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.

    • Posted By: LouisianaBB @ 08/12/2008 11:21:54 AM

      Unfair advantages? You mean like affirmitive action, in which it is not the best qualified individual for a job, but the best in a category so that a quota may be filled? I like many other Americans have been denied a job oppurtunity, not because I was less qualified, on the contrary I was the MORE qualified for the job, yet lost is BECAUSE I was white. Oh wait, thats not an advantage towards whites, just those that aren't. What question has been asked? I'll tell you. The question thats been asked is "is America ready for a black president?". And in my own opinion the answer is yes. However, the question should be "is America ready for a black president if he is the best person for the job?". Yet thats not the question people are answering. Many voters are voting for Obama simply to "make history", and It's the truth regardless of if you're too prideful to admit it or not, He simply does not have the qualifications to become president of this country. I have no issue with casting a vote for a black man or woman or person of any other race, yet I do not believe Obama is the correct person for the job. If you want to know the truth I had actually HOPED that Colin Powell was going to run in the last election and this one because the man would've gotten my vot hands down. I'm not against Obama because of his ethnicity. But I also do not like someone throwing accusations of racism around when its quite obvious that he is racist himself.

      • Posted By: fred12 @ 08/13/2008 3:20:44 PM

        LABB- You are a Racist and a liar!!! If you say your BA was in chemical Engineering then I bet you were not denied a job because it went to a black person!! U know why?? Because, there aren't many black people in that field... And, the small number of them in those fields are 100x smarter than u will ever be.
        So, whoever u lost the job you thought u were entitled by the virtue of you being white, whether they were Black American, Asian, Latino, Arab, African was smarter than you. So, get over it. Become a little less ignorant, and live life to the fullest, cos, u are missing out, man.. America is ready to elect its FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN, and its MOST PATRIOTIC PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!!!! I LOVE PISSING HATEFUL TWERPS LIKE YOU OFF!!!!!!! YES WE CAN, AND WE WILL!!! OBAMA 08!!!

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/13/2008 4:19:23 PM

          He never lost a job. I do doubt however, he has had many.

  • Posted By: Nana Anne @ 08/12/2008 11:15:04 AM

    Dear Anna I have always been a fan, but never more than this moment. As an old white woman I have long tried to explain to my children that due to a stroke of fate they do not have to face the daily challanges that our brothers and sisters of color do on a daily bases. Thank you for so perfectly stating it. I truely believe our wonderful nation will be greatly blessed if we wisely elect Barack Obama. From our lips to God's ear. My heart breaks for the ignorant likes of LouisianaBB

    • Posted By: LouisianaBB @ 08/12/2008 11:32:01 AM

      Ma'am I do not deny that the past was a difficult time for people of color. But in my time I have seen all too often as a white man in the south, having to watch how I say something for it would be accused of being a racist comment. Yet if someone not white said the same it wasn't being racist, but wanting equality. I just do not agree with the double standard. Myself and my family have been put upon hard times in the past when I didn't get several job oppurtunities because a certain quota had not been filled. I had the higher experience level and better test level yet lost the job to a minority whom scored admittedley lower than me with almost no experience. There are 2 sides to every story ma'am. While I'll never say blacks haven't had a tough time, I'll also never say that I was fed from a silver spoon simply for being white. As far as Obama goes, I just do not think that 1 term in the Senate and several years as a civil rights attorney qualify him for the presidency.

      • Posted By: jetflyr @ 08/13/2008 3:02:29 AM

        Might I suggest: Overcoming Our Racism: The Journey to Liberation by Derald Wing Sue --

        An excellent buok written for whites.. It will probably disturb you at times, but it's a potentially perspective-changing look at race and the honest dialog that is somehow missing it American society.

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/13/2008 4:17:45 PM

          And if reading this excellent book is not your thing, just don't say stupid things like you just did. How did Mr. BB know he was a victim of quota? Did the job tell him: you're out because you're not a minority? If your story is true, and I doubt it, you should not have gotten the job just based on your post.

  • Posted By: mikesmit @ 08/12/2008 1:16:06 PM

    Comment: Louisiana, qualifications for the presidency are highly subjective. You and many other Obama critics are singling out Obama's supposed lack of qualifications due to his one term in the Senate, while choosing to ignore other past presidential candidates. John Edwards served less than one full term in the Senate before his first run for the presidency: did anyone say he was unqualified then - or now? What about Al Gore, who ran for president in 1988 while still serving his first term in the Senate? What about the many other men and women who over the course of the nation's history - including in recent years - have mounted presidential runs while coming from various governmental, political, business or religious backgrounds? Sorry, but I rarely read or heard criticism or comments about their supposed "lack of qualification." It is only now when a major political party is set to nominate its first black/multiracial candidate that we hear the "qualified' cry. One does not have to hold a political office for a set amount of time for that person to be qualified to run for president, or for that person to be an effective president once he or she enters the office. There are numerous other factors that determine a successful presidency. Perhaps Obama's skin color or "different name" is in reality clouding yours - and many other Americans' - judgment.

    • Posted By: LouisianaBB @ 08/13/2008 9:09:14 AM

      You are correct in that the qualifications are subjective. Naturally, thats is one of the points that we as voters must contemplate in deciding who we vote for. The few names that you gave above who ran for the presidency with limited experience, if you notice, did not get elected into office. I have to believe that's partly due to their lack of experience at the time. The biggest reason I do not care for Obama is that I do not like where he stands on quite a few issues. Skin color isn't the factor, as I have said before I was hoping Colin Powell would've ran in the last election and this one because the man would've gotten my vote. As everyone has an opinion, we all are writing ours on here, mine is that he just isn't the man for the job.

      • Posted By: fred12 @ 08/13/2008 2:40:28 PM

        Whatever, LouisianaBB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Until Obama announced his intentions to ran for president he was beloved by people of your ilk because he wasn't a threat to your white racist ideals, but, now that he is running y'all are now calling him everything from an anti-christ to a terrorist sympathizer..
        And, if General Powell had ran for president u would have come up with excuses not to vote for him.
        It is useless having a discussion with folks like you, cos you are all incapable of rational thinking..
        If the dumbest person to ever ran for president-bush can be elected then obviously the smartest or one of the smartest-Obama should not be a problem to sanctimonious people like yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/13/2008 4:13:39 PM

          Mr. BB is quite easy to see through. If we had a dollars for every man that used the Colin Powell: I like black people, I like Powell - line, we could pay off the debt. I could not insult black people that way. I don't believe the "quite a few issues" either. Especially when they are not listed.

  • Posted By: j tech @ 08/12/2008 4:28:12 PM

    I'm sick of this stupid conversation. I won't vote for obamarama because I am sick and tired of OUR Government giving away my money! The idea that anyone in this country is entitled to Higher Education,health care insurance or what ever wihtout having to pay for it is absurd. GO EARN IT . Who pays for it? Those of us that are working to better our lives and earning taxable income! So, who among you believes it's alright that any one is entitled to something they didn't earn and those that are earning are not entitled to the money they earned? Because our Government takes it from us in the form of taxes and gives it to those that are entitled to it. Totally and completely wrong. It's time to stop the hand outs. I believe in helping anyone who is trying to help themselves yet understand that I can not help anyone by making them dependent. It's way past time to stop the pork and free hand outs. It's time the people of this country take back control from the politicians by holding them accountable. If our politicians spent our tax money for the good of the citizens we would probaly not have a national debt. Bigger goverment , more hand outs , free programs who pays for it all? TAXES, you can not spend without income or a increase in the national Debt.
    Politicians as smart as they are supposed to be can't balance a budget yet millions of American housholds without college degrees can? Something is wrong here people. Stop believing evrything your told and do some research. We can not afford to make a mistake .This may be the most imortant Election of our life time.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/13/2008 4:08:07 PM

      How much did the war cost so far? Of your money?

  • Posted By: vickibryant @ 08/11/2008 11:00:58 AM

    Let's be real here. This country is in decline. The Republican Party bears the brunt of the blame. Most people are hurting. Yet - the polls are close, looking like people are again going to vote against their interests.. Why? Should Obama fail to win the election the only reason for this failure is good old American Racism. This is America's last chance to go forward in my lifetime (age 63). Should McCain win the election, then America will get the leadership it truly deserves. G---D--- America!

    • Posted By: mistermcfrugal @ 08/11/2008 11:40:11 AM

      This woman is 63 years old and the only thing she knows is that if her candidate loses, only racism can explain it. She ends her rant by damning America. Hmmm, could it just be possible that the average voter maybe doesn't like to vote for people who damn America and threaten to scream "Racism!" if they don't get what they want?

      • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 08/13/2008 3:42:48 PM

        Do all you fu*king honkies use the words "rant" and "rave" to describe ANYTHING a black person says when ever you pedophiles don't like it?

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/11/2008 11:41:05 AM

      Your OPINION is noted. But then again, the majority of the mess were in today is solely due to YOUR generation. See why we value your OPINION so little?

  • Posted By: Nick in Virginia @ 08/11/2008 11:51:43 AM

    No, Ms. Quindlan, you are wrong. When Obama said that Republicans would try to "scare voters", and then said they would tell people "he did not look like the OTHER PRESIDENTS on the currency", he was clearly stating that Republican voters are racist (otherwise they would not be able to be scared by the fact that he is black). For you to ignore the context in which he made the statement is totally disingenuous, and you simply confirm the Conservative viewpoint that Liberals ignore reality to try to make their points.

    Also, your statement "...any black man or woman in America has heard worse..." is such an unfounded generalization that, if you submitted it in a college thesis, it would be rejected by even the lamest professor (except for possibly Ward Churchill).

    With work like this, one wonders how some of the liberal superstars can even keep a job.

    • Posted By: blkconservative @ 08/11/2008 12:05:32 PM

      Nick... when did you or anyone else become an expert on what a black man or a woman has heard? I find that remark kind of misinformed. I am a well educated African American conservative who has been called the "n" word to my face by more than one white individual. I was once told that I probably would not get a job (by a white man) because his company (fortune 500) did not like to put too many of my faces into the face to face selling world. I've been encouraged to use sports as a way to economic prosperity because it was assumed I was not smart enough to do anything else... by a teacher who was putting A's on my papers and test.

      I was once put in a position on a job where every thing quantatively got better. And one white guy that I was supervising went 2 levels above me and said that I was not running things right. Inspite of several attempts by my manager and several of the people I was supervising, I was told that I had to step down and go back to prove myself again. Even though I was the #1 rep 4 years straight... LOL

      I never complained because I understand that in this country, I have to be better than my white counter part. There isn't a white man that would argue differently. The really sad part is that what I gave you is a small part of what I have grown up with. Even sadder is there are so many more similar examples from other black men about what I have just stated.

      I can't speak for everyone as you can. I can speak for me and some that I know.... racism still exists and there is a strong dose of it still in America.

      • Posted By: denmill @ 08/12/2008 8:00:35 AM

        As a black woman I can tell you tht it goes both ways!!!!

        • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 08/13/2008 3:38:27 PM

          You keep saying "as a black woman" before you ever open up your dumbass mouth. Further proof that you are not black. Why do you keep saying it? I told you, stupid--no way are you Black. Black women are far stronger than what you are trying to portray--ain't ya mama?

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/11/2008 12:34:43 PM

      Very nicely stated... Great post

    • Posted By: Qeni @ 08/11/2008 12:11:23 PM

      My advice, bud--make a black friend or two. Open your world. Don't live in your past. ...proJgrESUviSm loves you

  • Posted By: martylynch @ 08/11/2008 4:23:08 PM

    Ms. Quindlen is mistaken, and it is not a small mistake. Obama did not rise to become editor of the Harvard law review. Those positions are only for the best and most able students. Obama was elected president of the Law Review. It is a popularity contest in which he recieved more votes than any of the other 17 students, all white, that were also on the ballot.

    • Posted By: fred12 @ 08/11/2008 4:47:03 PM

      Marty u are obviously an IDIOT!!!!! The president of the Harvard Law Review is the Editor-in-chief of the review. It is the same as an editor of the law review at Yale. And, by the way given that The Harvard Law Review is the most prestigious law journal in the country it is a significant accomplishment to attain that position. But, I bet if Senator Obama was white and he was President of the Review you would have said his election was based on the merits. Senator and soon to be President is by far one of the smartest people to HAVE EVER RAN FOR PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY.. It is a pity that ignorant bastards like yourself cannot get over your prejuidices to see that he is the best qualified candidate out there, bar none.. Keep voting for dummies like bush and mccain, and this country will continue to sink into irrelevance!!!!!! YES WE CAN!!! OBAMA 08!!!

      • Posted By: LouisianaBB @ 08/11/2008 4:59:58 PM

        That is an almost comical comment. While I agree Mr. Obama is a very intelligent man, how can you actually say that he is the "most qualified" to be president? Outside of 1 term in the Senate his political accomplishments are all based around being a civil rights lawyer. That doesn't qualify him, nor would it qualify anyone else, to be president. If you want to call anyone out on "prejudices" or being an idiot, then you need to take a long, good look in the mirror.

        • Posted By: fred12 @ 08/11/2008 5:19:01 PM

          So, what exactly has mccain accomplished that qualifies him to be president???????
          In order for one to become president, u need to have the intangibles-judgment, Intelligence(which doesn't seem to matter to some of you dummies, but is an important prerequiste. Look at the last 8yrs, and u will understand why), pragmatisim, vision, empathy, morality, grace under fire, experience, the right temperament, etc.... These are all qualities that Senator and soon to President Obama trumps mccain on..
          For the love of christ , I want people to stop this idiocy about the years Obama has spent in the senate..
          The man has an array of experience. He spent yrs in the state legislator, u.s senate(and he helped important legislations which became laws in both legislatures. And, how the hell do you all expect the man to pass 100 in 3yrs as a senator. It is as though he is been held to a different standard than all the other senators. It took mccain 10yrs b4 he could help pass a single important bill.), teaching law at the prestigious and conservative univ of chicago law school, author, etc.. Mccain cannot hold a candle to Obama. So, I will repeat myself once again, vote mccain, and see this country continue to sink to levels of incompetence that would be very very difficult to fix!!!

          • Posted By: LouisianaBB @ 08/12/2008 10:04:22 AM

            So you're saying that any person who can teach law, and spend a miniscule amount of time in the nation's politics, practice law based solely around civil rights, and right books, are GREAT choices for president? That is the most rediculous rationalization that I've ever heard yet that is what you suppport. The man has no scruples. He is ashamed of his country when its not doing so good, yet can be proud at other times? No, you may not always agree with things going on with the country but you should never be ashamed of it. And I'm sorry but if you can't be proud to live here then get the hell out and go live in another country. I promise it would be easy for him to see the error of his ways should he have done that. He can make racist accusations and racist comments, but how dare anyone accuse "Mr. Barack Obama" od doinf so, that just absurd. No that's bullsh*t. McCain however, fought for his country, stands by his country through hardship, and perseveres. He has been known to work with Democrats to resolve issues, much to the dismay of most of his own party. He does what needs to be done. He works to transcend party affiliation, sex and race to get the job done. Obama on the other hand, keeps his roots deeply planted in his own party and simply uses his skin color for preferential treatment. Sorry to say, but THAT is why he's where he is, to "make history", not becasue he's qualified but simply because he's a non-white.

            • Posted By: fred12 @ 08/12/2008 5:25:37 PM

              When you learn to spell the word "write, "ridiculous"" and others, come back and lets have a discusion based on intelligence and mutual respect, and not one based on some republican talking points about the americaness of Obama. The fact that mccain served his country is mute, in this discussion..
              It means absolutely nothing to me. I respect Chuck Hagel, John kerry, Colin Powell, and others who served their country honorably and continue to epitomize the best of America at all times. They never questioned the Americaness of their opponent even when it was politically expedient to do so.
              That is true leadership, and mccain lacks that. Btw- I can also equivocate that what you wrote was not a typo. There is no way the word "right" can be mistaken as a typo for "write"!!!! And, I bet if you were denied admission to some college, you would have blamed affirmative action instead of your own STUPIDITY, u twerp!!!!!!!
              Tell me this-What EXACTLY HAS McCAIN DONE THAT TRANSCENDED RACE??????????????????NOTHING!!!! NOTHING!!!! NOTHING!!!! NOTHING!!!!! NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              The problem with most of you white folks is that, y'all are the most hypocritical mfers on this earth!!!!
              How the f**k can one love this country all the time??? Are you serious??? Loving your country blindly is called NATIONALISM, u idiot!!! Patriotism on the other hand is loving your country, but, still having the guts to criticise it, when it indulges in behavior(s) that contradict(s)s the principles and ideals it steadfastly proclaims to be the epitome of its greatness. Obama is just as American as mcCain.. If blacks were not loving of this country, you and every white racist bastard would have paid mightly(and u know exactly what I mean) for the sins your forefathers committed against us!!! So, If i was you, I will STFU, and be grateful that I live in America amongst blacks who are the most forgiving people on the face of this earth!!!!!

              • Posted By: LouisianaBB @ 08/13/2008 8:57:48 AM

                The sins that MY forefathers committed? My ancestors didn't own any slaves, so while I'm sure they sinned just like everyone else in the world has, enslaving another person was not one of those sins. Most of MY ancestors didn't come to this country until AFTER slavery was abolished and the ones that were here at that time did not own slaves. I know this due to extensive research that I and members of my family have done to look into our family history. So as far as you're accusations that my family having committed sins against blacks by enslaving them are dead WRONG. Oh, and I wasn't denied admission to any college, I graduated from LSU with a BA in Chemical Engineering. Sorry if, when I'm at work, I make a grammatical error because dumba$$es like you just seem to piss me off.

                • Posted By: fred12 @ 08/13/2008 3:06:50 PM

                  U dumb a** twerp!!!! You don't understand English either!!!! I said I bet if you were denied admission!!!!
                  I never said u were denied admission. Big difference!!! And, why do white folks seem to think that slavery is the only sin America committed against blacks??? How about Jim Crow??? I bet your forefathers were here during that, and they did nothing to stop it!!! Don't LIE LBB, cos you know I am telling the truth!!!!
                  You also got into LSU due to Affirmative Action, cos remember AA is not just about race.. It includes legacy, socio-economic factors, gender, etc... I get so incensed when y-t people who continue to benefit from the virtue of their being white in this country continue to whine about the privileges that blacks enjoy!!
                  What privilges????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
                  If you think we have it so easy, why don't we switch places for a day, and see how it is??
                  Tell me, if a white person had gone to Columbia Univ, Harvard Law School(He got in irrespective of AA, and why do we know, because he didn't disclose he was even black, and on top of that finished law school magna *** laude), was the President of the Harvard Law Review, A constitutional Law Professor, A State Senator, A civil rights Attorney, A best selling author, who wrote his own books, A U.S. Senator, and a An American Presidential candidate would he/she be compared to britney spears and paris hilton??
                  HELL NO!!!! So, we as blacks know that we have to work 10x as hard as the next y-t person. That is why someone who finished 867 out a class of 870, and someone whose gpa was 2.5 can be the nominee of their party and the president of their country respectively!!!
                  Only in America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                  Exchanging one dummy for another for president!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!

          • Posted By: denmill @ 08/12/2008 8:29:57 AM

            I am not a Mc Cain fan but I will be voting for hin in November. Say all you want, at least voting for Mc Cain is voting for America while voting for Barack Hussein Obama is voting for Europe, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Hamas, United Nation, Kenya, Taliban, and Osama Bein Laden!!!!! Because I am an American first, I will be voting for Mc Cain. "OBAMA, a CHANGE that AMERICA CANNOT AFFORD" here is my slogan and I think Mc Cain needs to use it to his advantage.

            • Posted By: effie1 @ 08/12/2008 11:00:35 PM

              Wow!!!1 The ignorance that permeate this site. Isn't the u.s part of the u.n? Oh how abt Georgia, England, Turkey, and others.Are they not Europena, and also members of the u.n? y'all are really dumb!!!1

        • Posted By: denmill @ 08/12/2008 8:34:45 AM

          You cannot be president of a Country that you are so ashamed of that you have to apolized for. On this basis, Obama is not qualified to be president of the USA. May be he will be qualified in Berlin, Germany!

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/11/2008 10:28:32 PM

      one could argue that the voters for the Law Review all had white guilt also....

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