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  • Posted By: Dr. S @ 08/11/2008 1:53:09 PM

    Typical liberal nonsense....to compare life in a Viet-Cong prision camp to the life in America on any level shows the all-too-common historical ignoance of the left. Sorry for the facts, but Obama IS relatively inexperienced and untested and no main-stream-media affirmative action campaign can change that fact.
    Kindly signed,
    Conservative from Texas, and proud supporter of the status quo established by Republicans (sec of state Colin Powell, sec of state Condi Rice, sec of labor Elaine Chow, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson, supreme court justice Clarence Thomas, etc., etc).

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/11/2008 2:22:08 PM

      I have a question. What exactly has the Democrats done for the African Amerfican community anyway to still have a stronghold on their vote?

      • Posted By: Dr. S @ 08/11/2008 4:51:55 PM

        blind (very blind) faith!!!

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 08/11/2008 3:56:34 PM

    Listen up you gringos. When our amigo Barack becomes El Presidente you gringos will get what is coming to you. No mas pistolas. No mas hunting animalitos. No mas gasolina for your pick up trucks. No mas patrols en la frontera. No mas Remember the Alamo. Our amigo Barack will return Tejas to Mejico and all you gringos will have to go vivir in Arkansas. Jerry Jones included. Comprende?

    • Posted By: Larryenderby @ 08/11/2008 4:04:48 PM

      That was very funny. Muy Buen.....y yo soy un gringo, muy, muy blanco

      • Posted By: josemarti @ 08/11/2008 4:13:58 PM

        Gracias senor mister gringo.

  • Posted By: WorldCitizenUK @ 08/11/2008 2:22:46 PM

    Dear Ms. Quindlen,

    I am a mixed race Englishman and have been following the US presidential race with some fervour. I religiously read articles from Real Clear Politics, Huffington Post, Politico etcetera, simply to give me a broad spectrum of what the general lie of the campaign is, on a day to day basis.

    Your article ???The Caucasian Card???, ???Pound for pound??? (borrowing from the boxing fraternity) is one of the most meaningful and thought provoking articles I have read on the race issue. For a white person ( sounds patronising, but I know you will understand) you have expressed in your article more eloquently than most people of colour could have, our frustration when a veiled attempt is made to play the race card and in the same breath blame us for it.

    Well done and pleeeease lets have more of your objective articles!!!




    • Posted By: benitacanova @ 08/11/2008 4:10:28 PM

      this i s a joke right? don't you have some drinking and brawling to do? p.s. we spell it fervor. now get lost.

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/11/2008 3:59:34 PM

    Ye gods,what a dingbat analysis,even coming from limosine liberals like Quindlen,who is to articulate non-partisan discussion of her god Obama,what TABASCO sauce is to a peptic ulcer. She forgets that this ''card''has been played by her liberal pals right down the line. Gene Robinson and Dana Milbank of the WaPo,who equate the criticism of ''presumption''to ''black''.Bob Herbert of the NY Times,whose injecting of the card was so bizzare that he insinuated that McCains people were turning common obilisk monuments into ''Phallic symbols'' For Obama. and playing the ''white women ''schtick. SLATES Tim Noah,for whom the term ''skinny''is now a codeword for ''black''. Quinlan stupidly forgets that the United States Supreme Court,including her heroine swing voter O'Connor,didn't like ''quotas''either and struck them down in 2002s MICHIGAN decision. Heres what Quindlen sounds like in trying to parlay the use of such cards onto the Republicans.

    ''There are no starving people in Russia''.

    ''You can't fight here. This is the War Room''!

    ''I did not have sex with that woman''

    ''I cannot vote for this man because he is not Hispanic enough''

    ''I voted for the bill before I voted against it''.

    Absurd? You bet. But so is Quindlens thesis.



  • Posted By: LouisianaBB @ 08/11/2008 1:22:19 PM

    Sorry but I disagree with you on just about all those counts. Firstly, affirmitive actoin, while i understand the reason behind it, has turned into nothing but a quota to fill. Instead of hiring the BEST person, regardless of race or sex, for the job it is about hiring the best person in a specific category for the job. That, in my mind, is bad business. Secondly, I'm tired of hearing the same old cliche' that "its hard to be a black man in America". Well I don't see how thats accurate. That line gets thrown out and people give sympathy for it, but I for one get tired of hearing some of the blacks in the public eye, Mr. Obama, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to name a few, throw around "they" and "them" comments and using the stereotype that all whites are racist. I"ll give these men credit to being great public speakers and having much charisma, but the whole "whites are suppressing the black people of America" thing has gotten pretty old. If a white person says "they" or "them" or makes a statement on how they feel about affirmitive action it is automatical thrown out there as a racist comment and the person is attacked as a racist or supremesist. Yet if a black person says those same things then its not racist and is all about equality? I don't think so. That's a bunch of bullsh*t. If freedom of speech and opinion can be voiced by one group it she be able to be voiced by any other group. The point being that Obama uses it for sympathy and to claim a man is being racist, falsely. And McCain's retort was that Obama wrongly accused him of this because it seems to be acceptable for a black man to accuse a white man of it regardless of the reason and he's not going to let his name be marked that way in error.

    • Posted By: TellitLikeItIs21 @ 08/11/2008 1:39:35 PM

      Your argument is incredibly myopic and focus on the inane micro details. We're talking big picture macro stuff here. Reread the article and come back when you get it. Thanks.

      • Posted By: LouisianaBB @ 08/11/2008 3:59:11 PM

        No, it's not "micro-details". It is the basis behind the stereotypes and racists allegations that are thrown around by both sides. Lets face the facts, it's not about slavery anymore. Slavery was abolished the last time I checked and nobody has owned a slave in quite some time. So thats not the issue. Affirmitive action work so well that now it has passed the point of being fair for all minorities to only working FOR minorities. So thats not the issue. As I said before, it is politically incorrect for a white man to bring up any points of possible inequality. It is jumped on as a racist statement, yet the same statement from a black man is looked upon as a strive for racial equality. It has become the double standard. One of the great leaders in the civil rights movement, Dr. King, wanted equality for all races, yet that gets overlooked and forgotten and focuses on one particular race. I'm all for equality, but let it truly be equal. It is not equal if a man or woman, who is less qualified for a job, gets it solely based on their ethnicity. Just as it is not equal if the same man or woman are the best qualified for a job but do not get the job because of their ethnicity. Racism may never go away but I have to believe it makes it worse if people lose a job to a less qualified individual because of a quota. I dont believe you achieve equality by giving preferential treatment to any group, white, black, hispanic, or any other. By giving preferential treatment to one group is that not supressing another? So if one wanted to argue a point, couldn't it be said that affirmitive action (which was put itno play mainly for black & womens civil rights) supresses the white male? Not saying that that is my personal thoughts on the matter, but the point is that there can always be an argument on equality and racism if someone wants to make one. Obama was pre-emptish and tried to define McCain as an old, white supremicist and that was wrong. I can make an argument on both sides of the fence, problem is the argument is pointless no matter what side it comes from. If everyone wants to be on a level playing field then laws that tilt that field need to be erased so it can once more be level. And a side note, Obama talks about wanting everyone to have an education and some being too poor to go to college and wanting to help those people. Well, obviously he's targeting the people who do not know that there ARE govn't programs that give loans to kids whose parents do not have much money and the do NOT have to pay it back. Furthermore, as long as you get accepted into college you can get a student loan. So thats just a cover for the real issue. The real issue he should focus on is kids needing to get interested in school and actually CARING what their grades are.

    • Posted By: shawnldb2004 @ 08/11/2008 1:35:50 PM

      I actually agree with most of the stuff you said especially about black people...a black person can say "them white folks" all day long & a white person can say "black people", "them" or "those" and the would be thrashed! One of the reasons is because since the being of the whole slavery movement and black evloution, everything that came behind that was negative. For someone to say something positive is not common. But I understand what your saying. :)

  • Posted By: hallalujah @ 08/11/2008 3:49:24 PM

    BRAVO TO MS. Q. !!!!!!! O. MONTGOMERY

  • Posted By: David Hawkins @ 08/11/2008 1:59:53 PM

    To shawnldb2004:
    I'm a 38 year old white male from Northeast GA. I completely believe you and my heart goes out to you. Im sorry you have been treated unfairly. However, I believe both of us would be lying if we said we didn't harbor certain descriminations- some legitimate, and some we should be ashamed of. The problem for me is when black leaders like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton work racism into every single situation, from Hurricane Katrina to Global Warming, and (TRUST ME) this election if Obama doesn't win. Also, seeing that these two clowns speak for the entire black population of America. I would like to step up at this time as representative for the entire white population and issue this statement: EVERYTHING AINT MY FAULT.

    • Posted By: americancitizen200 @ 08/11/2008 3:39:33 PM

      Comment to David Hawkins:

      Just as white people have different opinions so do we. You seem to be believing everything that's put on the news or where ever you get your information. To answer your charge that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson speak for ALL black people I think you need to stop reading untrue statements

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/11/2008 2:19:38 PM

      Mine either!!!

  • Posted By: sereptaann @ 08/11/2008 3:27:25 PM

    It's so nice to see that some reporters can be so objective! Did it EVER occur to any of you Obama lovers that some of us don't like him because we did our home work and didn't just fall for a pretty speech?! I was a grassroots Obama supporter, voted for him for senate, supported his bid for president until he said he would send troops into Pakistan...and I said "what", time to do some homework. When I did I pulled my support real quick. I wish you race baiters would just all go home, it is truly disgusting and I am sick of being called one. Try being objective once in a while will ya?

  • Posted By: Larryenderby @ 08/11/2008 12:17:28 PM

    "Every politician since the beginning of time has had speechwriters, but Obama wrote his most topical speech this campaign season, the one on race (post-Jeremiah Wright).". Not sure if you are aware, but that famous race speech can no longer be found on the Obama website, nor is spoken about any longer by the media because less than two weeks after it was give, it was refuted by Obama himself when he threw his Reverend under the bus and decided that his grandmother, a "typical white person", was no longer a racist.

    • Posted By: wchang @ 08/11/2008 3:15:58 PM

      Your comment makes no sense. How does renouncing Wright refute Obama's views on race? Why should the media still be talking about the speech, now, if it happened 5 months ago? And, again, how does whether or not he thinks his grandmother is a racist relate to his views on race?

      Not sure what your point is.

  • Posted By: kew498 @ 08/11/2008 3:13:46 PM

    Hey Anna,
    Instead of schlepping out this "anti-McCain, vote for Obama to prove you're not racist" article, you should have kept it politically neutral and addressed ALL of the biases we've seen so far this election season. Clearly, you don't think Obama is using the "race card". I suppose he didn't use the "Man Card" against Hillary either!

  • Posted By: kew498 @ 08/11/2008 3:10:42 PM

    Hey Anna,
    Instead of schlepping out this "anti-McCain, vote for Obama to prove you're not racist" article, you should have kept it politically neutral and addressed ALL of the biases we've seen so far this election season. Clearly, you don't think Obama is using the "race card". I suppose he didn't use the "Man Card" against Hillary either!

  • Posted By: MGSP69 @ 08/11/2008 2:54:30 PM

    Well, it seems that based on your "analysis" if I do not vote for Obama it is because I am a racist. It does not matter that I don't think he is qualified, has overstated his "experience" and has run on a character and judge,ent platform that is completely unfounded. I am jus a racist. No one seems to be stating that Obama is also only 50% African decent and 50% Caucasion. Somehow that fact never makes it into a discussion; only that he is "black". Go figure.

    Thanks for the article. Another reason why I don't subscribe to Newsweek.

  • Posted By: doctorfixit @ 08/11/2008 2:53:35 PM

    Quindlen raises a phony argument. The case against affirmative racism has never been whether it weakens meritocracy or that it promotes the second-rate.

    The arguments against affirmative racism are:
    1. It is racism because it seeks, as a matter of officially sanctioned policy, to give legal privileges to a group of people based on arbitrary criteria.
    2. It is unconstitutional because it violates the principle of equal justuce under the law.

    THe fact that affirmative racism weakens meritocracy and promotes the second-rate are irrefutable, nonetheless. As a public service manager once remarked: "We don't mind having an old boys network, as long as the old boys are all black, all Mexican, or all women".

  • Posted By: David Hawkins @ 08/11/2008 2:51:29 PM

    As the newly self-appointed spokesman for every white person in America, I issue this challenge to every black person in America: Today, Barak Obama does not get my vote. Tomorrow, if he wakes up white. I will not change my mind. Can you say the same? Who's racist???

  • Posted By: AlanSrout @ 08/11/2008 12:28:28 PM

    In December 1966, when John McCain requested his first combat assignment in Vietnam, Barack Obama turned 5 years old and was enjoying the freedoms a child should enjoy.

    As Obama turned 7, McCain had survived a burning jet fire on the USS Forrestal and had just flown his 23rd bombing mission over communist North Vietnam.

    In 1973, as Obama reached age 12, McCain was finally released from a prisoner-of-war camp in the Hanoi Hilton.

    At age 15, when Obama was still in high school, McCain became the commanding officer of a Naval Training Squadron in Florida. He turned a poorly managed military unit into a distinguished, combat-ready team.

    When Obama reached the legal age of 21 and was experimenting with pot and cocaine, McCain declined an admiral promotion and ran for and was elected to Congress.

    By 1987, Obama was a young man of 25 and McCain had assumed the office of senator from Arizona (after a successful four-year tour in the U.S. House of Representatives).

    At age 36, Obama looked on as Sen. McCain was named one of Time magazine's 25 most influential people in America.

    Whom do we choose as our next leader? Do we choose a man with proven military and political achievements, or a man with little experience other than a stint as a community leader and junior senator? Decisions, decisions!

    • Posted By: Hatful1 @ 08/11/2008 2:46:54 PM

      The problem with such a biased attempt at a chronological comparison, is you can only use the criteria you decided was important. The sum total of these two men extends "your view" of their values. Let's add a few things that have bearing on your comparison - how much partying did John McCain do to finish college 894 out of 899 students, bottom of class, and how could Obama have partied so much he finished at the top of his class? The truth is that Obama had an epiphany DURING college and determined to rise above mediocrity, hence his being selected as president of the Harvard Review and finishing at the top of his class. McCain benefitted from perks of his father's and grandfather, so his poor showing was overlooked at school. We don't know what products McCain experienced with during his partying because he is from the generation that just did not discuss those things, so we don't know if he also experimented. We do know that he admitted to many affairs and dating Cindy while still married, divorcing the first wife while she was suffering with cancer, and calling the present wife vile names, including thinking he was complimenting her last week at the Surgis (sp) event, for Ms Buffalo Chip - suggesting she could win a topless contest and be the first lady.

      Character counts as well as fitness. Based on reports of John's anger management issue, his incidents of forgetting important information and misstating critical points for his own argument, and his statement that he confuses facts 'when he gets up earlier than 8:30 when he went to sleep at 10 the night before' causes us to question his fitness and character. McCain gets a pass because of his horrendous experiences in Vietnam, but beyond that, he has been rather "regular" and at times just mean-spirited.

      McCain can change his positions from February to June, and be shown tapes of his prior positions and the media gives him the slap on the wrist. I think we should at least be honest that we give leeway to people we admire and appreciate - you for McCain and me for Obama. Since no one is perfect, what of their imperfections can we tolerate in our next President. Who can get leadership and support from other statesment and professionals to bridge those imperfections to lead our country? For me, that Obama, his character and judgement will help him make wise decisions in getting the advise he needs. McCain's admissions of need for later starts in morning and selected times off for one or two days tells us that his age is a bigger concern than we have been acknowledging. You can get talent and advice, but getting someone to prop up the fitness issue for the President is a larger task. Decisions, decisions. Joe Biden, Chuck Dodd, Sam Nunn, and others have already pledged to bridge support for Obama, and I trust them to help us through these critical moments for our country.

  • Posted By: wchang @ 08/10/2008 10:25:29 AM

    Ugh, so now Obama has something to hide academically because McCain was 894th out of 899. The Republican can be the most mediocre of the mediocre, but it's the other guy who has to "prove" himself.

    You can't be Harvard Law Review editor or an adjunct constitutional law professor at University of Chicago by having weak academics -- or, is it that he must be an undeserving beneficiary of affirmative action (see, this sort of thing is where racial coding and "dog whistles" to those in the country who might not vote for a black guy come into play), as well, now, in spite of no evidence of this? Double or nothing on the Obama smears, and meanwhile McCain was still 894th out of 899, and shows all the attention to detail and intellectual engagement of another president who we know was an academic joke, and who we gave a pass on this, and whose administration showed this lack of attention to detail and lack of engagement every step of the way -- George Bush.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/10/2008 11:14:05 AM

      All ya'll left loonies want to present Hussein as some great intellectual. He is no such thing.

      Hussein is a "LEARNER" not a "THINKER". Very good memorization skills. That is why his prepared speeches are so effective. He is not a person who has new ideas. He is basically a parrot.

      Polly Want a Cracker.

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: Qeni @ 08/11/2008 2:32:31 PM

        Hey, Polly HolyRoller--for your information, many non-Muslims in the Middle East and beyond are also named 'Hussein.' And your argument would have been much stronger if you hadn't called Obama a parrot . It seems as if you were having trouble remembering whatever you were trying to 'parrot,' otherwise your little rant would have been longer and more enlightening. Get some pets to give you some of the love you're missing in your life. A parrot probably wouldn't be a good idea, however...

      • Posted By: bathinker @ 08/10/2008 11:45:49 AM

        HolyRoller: And how did/do you remember the Lord's Prayer, 23rd Psalm.
        Get over it! Obama is the BEST chance for we have to pull America "out of the gutter" and regain respect both here & abroad.

        • Posted By: denmill @ 08/11/2008 10:06:37 AM

          Obama is a change that we cannot afford. We do not need a socialist in the US. He is about taking from every body who works hard and giving it to the lazy crackheads. He will not be our president because he does not put the US first. He had to go to Berlin (the bastion of Hilter) out of all places and humiliate the US. Who he is to apologize to the Europeans for the US? He need to go run for office in Europe and be in charge of the United Nation which nothing than a communist organization. He would be a great leader for the United nation.

      • Posted By: wchang @ 08/10/2008 12:19:31 PM

        Like I was saying, two different standards -- one for your guy, one for the other guy.

        Every politician since the beginning of time has had speechwriters, but Obama wrote his most topical speech this campaign season, the one on race (post-Jeremiah Wright). He used to teach a class called "Racism and the Law" at U. of Chicago. Is it so hard for you to believe that not everyone is as dumb as the guys the GOP puts up every 4 years? (... yes, McCain being dumb is a foregone conclusion, one that I guess you admit.)

        http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/18/obama.speech/index.html
        http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/speechwriter_of_one.php

      • Posted By: tc125231 @ 08/10/2008 11:53:06 AM

        You say he's no great intellect? Compared to who? You? A man who is living proof that some of us are throwbacks to the proto-ancestor we share with apes? George W. Bush? Please. John W. McCain, who eis acknowledged even by his allies to make decisions primarily based upon his emotions?

        Quit being such a drama queen, and get real, you smarmy little gob of shite.

  • Posted By: bobwaters @ 08/11/2008 2:23:27 PM

    The hypocrisy and downright absurdity of this article is amazing.

    Obama has repeatedly- and falsely- accused Sen. McCain of racism in this campaign. When Sen. McCain points out this lie, according to Quinlan that in itself makes McCain a racist!

    No, McCain isn't playing the 'caucasion card.' He's being honest- and Barak Obama isn't. And neither is Anna Quinlan.

  • Posted By: bobwaters @ 08/11/2008 2:21:14 PM

    This is fascinating. Quinlan argues that it is a 'big lie' that failures and shortcomings among American blacks are blamed on racism. In fact, Sen. Obama has repeatedly used race as a preemptive excuse for possible failure, blaming Sen. McCain for a racism he in fact has never displayed.

    Quinlan makes her point by accusing McCain of racism for pointing out that Obama has falsely accused him of racism opposition.

    The logic of this article is so tortured that it's hard to see how even Quinlan can fail to see that the very substance of her argument makes itself transparently hypocritical and downright absurd.

  • Posted By: Newsweekwatch @ 08/11/2008 2:16:32 PM

    Obama is playing the white guilit card, "the, u know some whites are not going to vote for me, because of racism, and therfore youu(nice white people) should feel guilty about that and vote for me!"

  • Posted By: Newsweekwatch @ 08/11/2008 2:13:49 PM

    If McCain is playing the caucasian card, Obama is playing the white guilt card, "the -u know some whites are not going to vote for me because I am black and therefore u(white people)should feel guilty about that and vote for me" card.

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