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  • Posted By: wtsyes @ 08/12/2008 7:25:29 PM

    al gore is nothing more than a profitieer off of green, carbon credits. t boone pickens is a successful business man. they both will get rich off of green. the difference is t boone will actually accompish something and bring it to market. al gore is a crybaby loser politician who will never bring anything to market and will still get filthy rich.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/15/2008 4:01:22 AM

      The difference between the two is Al Gore's plan was and is not to bring anything to the market, his purpose is to educate people on the effects of Global Warming. Both of them already are filthy rich.

  • Posted By: wtsyes @ 08/12/2008 7:23:38 PM

    al gore is nothing more than a profitier of green, carbon credits. t boone pickens is a business man who wants to make green succeed. both will get rich, but al gore will accomplish nothing while pickens will accomplish alot. the difference is al gore is a crybaby loser politician, and pickens is a man.

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 08/14/2008 3:47:45 PM

      It's so easy to be brave behind a computer keyboard. Much harder to stand up and make controversial but true statements on energy realities...

      I have nothing against Mr. Pickens whatsoever, but I do have something against people who think that bluster is courage and that a cowboy hat and a Texan drawl make someone a "man". What makes someone a man is the ability to accept responsibility, the treatment of others with dignity and respect, and the courage to work for what he believes in - and on those scores, BOTH T. Boone Pickens and Albert Gore are finer men (or adults, if you happen to be female) than you are.

  • Posted By: gary goldbladt @ 08/12/2008 6:58:55 PM

    In my neighbor hood, people with natural gas royalties are called the "Children of the Shale".
    As far as I'm concerned, natural gas is Satan's farts. Pumping it out of the ground will guarantee that our great grand-children will boil like hot-dogs..
    The "Children of the Shale" can all go to hell. And mr Pickins can tag along with them.

    • Posted By: pezled @ 08/13/2008 6:27:35 AM

      sounds like somebody is mad that they don't have any shale to get paid for. Do you want some cheese with that whine???

      • Posted By: prosolardesigns @ 08/13/2008 1:21:18 PM

        maybe you'd rather your grandchildren boil in another oil mans war in the middle east, the future if we don't do something NOW........or how about YOUR plan, just sit and bitch about the ones with ideas????

  • Posted By: Chris1110022 @ 08/12/2008 6:47:36 PM

    I find this entire piece to be fascinating. While referring to himself as bipartisan, has anyone asked why Mr. Pickens financed the Swiftboat Liars for Bush? Also, his deal with the Roberts County Aquifer was unseemly, even sleazy; using Imminent Domain, the legal travesty that it is to create the windfarms would be a PR nightmare. Sure America needs to get off of foreign oil, the fact that Mr. Pickens funded one of the dirtiest political smears of alltime for a guy who invaded Iraq mainly to steal its oil for private companies to sell shouldn't be lost on anyone. I applaud anyone searching for a second chance, but Mr. Picken's should be made to disavow his previous behavior before he even gets an ear from the public. Now, onto energy plans, its amazing that John Mccain and the rightwing freakshow have been mocking Senator Obama's imminently reasonable proposal for energy conservation and development while pushing enviromental nightmares like nuclear power, offshore and shale oil drilling and few people seem to be reacting strongly; instead we debate Mr. Mccain's contributer friendly plan (amazing how some oil money makes a politician change his mind about ravaging the enviroment for oil profits). Mccain's "all of the above" plan no doubt will position the energy giants well for the forseeable future while neglecting the need for working renewables and the possibility of solar panels on homes powering communities. Essentially John Mcsame is proposing a continuance and amping of Bush's failed goals: remove commonsense public protecting enviromental regulations while playing off concern over toxic waste being placed into communities as "whining". The oil industry already has more than enough permits and public land set aside, and in any case offshore drilling won't impact the price for years; lets also not forget the oil will not be "American" as the Republicans are cheaply spinning it, it will be sold by the oil companies on the world market; we can get in line with everyone else to buy it and watch our prices not change at all. After seeing what for the past 8 years two Texas oilmen could accomplish now we're debating the plan created by a third Texas oilman along with a candidate whose energy policies were generated by Phill Gramm, another Texas politician with strong ties to Enron and Exxon? give me a break people, it's time to make a change here. As for Mr. Pickens, he can begin to show he really is in it for America by disavowing his financing of the Swiftliars, this will win him a seat at the table. In the case of Mcsame, just follow the money, like Bush he's very transparent with whom he intends to benefit with his energy "plan". Obama has the best plan here, just like everywhere else that you can compare the two, which explains Mccains bitter attacks on him to distract you from that basic point.

    • Posted By: stematwork @ 08/13/2008 9:23:40 AM

      man, you soft hearted dems sure are nuanced and open minded.

  • Posted By: pi**edTexan @ 08/12/2008 1:10:45 AM

    I agree completely, sort of. Mr. Pickens is a seemingly brilliant man. He knows that oil supplies are running out. The next "big money" is going to come from renewable resources. I just have an itsy-bitsy problem with giving a private company "government" powers, taxpayer dollars, pumping water from an aquifer that belongs to the people of several states, and taxpayers perhaps paying for the utility lines that will bring us the electricity that we can then purchase, for a second time. I'm all for wind and solar power, but if you are a "for profit" company, then you should pay your own way. BTW, the name of his "private" government agency is; Roberts County Fresh Water Supply District No. 1. Only, it's not part of the government of Roberts County, the water pipeline is proposed to sell water starting with Dallas/Fort Worth, a long way from Roberts County, and the directors of this "governmental" water district are certainly (well) connected to Mr. Pickens. If Mr. Pickens wants to do his "good deed" without taxpayer dollars funding his money machine, and without taking land from the owners through "imminent domain", then great. But leave the Ogallala Aquifer water alone. Of course, if he was going to do all of that the "right way", there would have been absolutely no need for the Roberts County Fresh Water Supply District No. 1 to be formed, or for Texas to pass the $5B in taxpayer funded financing for utility line constuction, would there. It's a giant money scam being perpetrated on the taxpayers yet again, this time in the name of "helping the environment".

  • Posted By: pi**edTexan @ 08/11/2008 11:50:03 PM

    So writers Stone and Harris touch, barely, on the issue of T. Boone Pickens getting a Fresh Water Supply District, normally a government agency, for themselves, for a parcel of land (reportedly 8 acres) smaller than many homesteads in Texas, AND imminent domain. Now there's the key. This "private" FWSD can condemn, through imminent domain, land belonging to private citizens, for personal profit. And, no mention of how as a FWSD, they also have the right to use imminent domain to take property for the right of way to build power transmission lines. Gee, you think that he might use imminent domain to hook those power lines to his wind farm? Nah. Texas voted to provide $5B dollars to build utility lines to do this very thing. But I'm sure he won't take any money from Texas taxpayers, he's a billionaire trying to do good. Read their website at least, would you? And when he starts selling the water under his FWSD, it won't be 8 acres that will be drained, it will be the entire Ogallala Aquifer, that runs under a number of states. Oh, and the price he wants to sell the water for? Several times higher than similar governmental agencies sell it for. But then again, this "private" government he's got going is a "for profit" enterprise. Whatever you do, don't go into real detail and anger a billionaire with clout. He may be out to do nothing but good, but the question remains, for who?

  • Posted By: Gasguy @ 08/11/2008 3:33:39 PM

    Obama doesn't support Pickens' plan. He only wants "limited" drilling. Pickens rightfully believes we need to drill everywhere. I agree with Boone!

    • Posted By: freecitizen @ 08/11/2008 5:23:32 PM

      1. Amazing, we get raped by a bunch of oil company thugs and then we demand that THEY be rewarded with a carte blanche okay to drill anywhere they want to.

      2. We seem to always think only about ourselves and our immediate needs, so let's go and dig up some more crud to sprew into the atmosphere, instead of finding a new cleaner way to meet our endergy needs.

  • Posted By: redheaded blue girl @ 08/11/2008 4:01:33 PM

    Pickens has some good ideas. How many more of the ideas he nows touts as the salvation of our country would have been policy, and producing results now, if he had not Swift-boated John Kerry? I wonder if his depression has anything to do with throwing the US, and the world's climate, under the bus for the sake of his oil buddy Bush?

  • Posted By: freecitizen @ 08/11/2008 1:56:05 PM

    Please note that T. bone Pickens plan calls for huge government subsidies AND wide spread eminent domain siezures to create large scale centrally located energy systems that will fall, as always, into the hands of the same profiteers who will tout the virtues of the "free market" once Santa has come down the chimney on thier behalf. If this initial $200 billion were put into subsidizing photo voltaic installations on residential roof tops the need for huge federally subsidized yet privately controlled distribution sytems would evaporate. Naturally this would put the power to create energy in the hands of individual consumers and that is a fate worse than death to every oil man in Texas.

  • Posted By: pezled @ 08/11/2008 8:59:32 AM

    people need to focus on the natural gas portion of the pickens plan. Natural gas is ALREADY powering many municipal vehicles and buses across america. natural gas is the cleanest burning energy to date, meaning that less pollution goes into the air from natural gas. natural gas is abundant right here in the states, it is easily transported in pipelines, and most cars can be easily and inexpensively retrofitted to run on natural gas. All we need is someone with the forward thinking to invest in natural gas filling stations, and we could cut our oil imports significantly, while putting Americans to work drilling and producing it. It could cut our petroleum imports in half in just a couple of years. Wake up, America!

  • Posted By: uuforyou @ 08/10/2008 8:07:15 PM

    T. Boone Pickpocket is NOT to be trusted. Be VERY careful about what you believe when it comes to T.

  • Posted By: JoeSmith16 @ 08/10/2008 6:53:51 PM

    there is a reason why nuclear energy hasn't been cultivated today. ask yourself this: if its so fine and dandy, why have the Republicans done nothing to bring it about? Surely corporate profits/lobbyists are a factor...but c'mon...who wouldn't pass up the chance to lead America into an energy independent era?

  • Posted By: JoeSmith16 @ 08/10/2008 6:52:08 PM

    The fact is that whether it is offshore drilling or nuclear energy, we need more immediate solutions to the crisis. None of McCain's plans have addressed the immediate needs of this country. We must not forget that nuclear energy leads to toxic waste that remains radioactive for 1000's of years. Research in the past has shown that there is a very serious and grave possibility that leaks can/will occur. There is reason why such an energy plan has not been cultivated yet.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 08/10/2008 5:24:21 PM

    If you think about it John McCain plan for forty-five new nuclear power plants is reasonable, needed and attainable. Our current 108 nuclear power plants supply twenty (20) percent of our electricity requirements. This is amazing considering that it has been thirty years since there has been new construction on new nuclear power plants anywhere in the United States. Construction on new nuclear power plants has occurred throughout the world but not in the United States thanks to Democratic leadership. In France, nuclear power supplies 80 percent of their electricity needs. Because 108 nuclear power plants are generating twenty percent of our needs, an additional 45 nuclear power plants will only increase the percentage of nuclear power to roughly 28 percent of our needs well short of French eighty percent nuclear power generation of electricity. John McCain proposals are reasonable and will help lead us to energy independence. Democrats under the leadership of Barack Obama want to study the issue for another 30 years. By that time the only remaining United States builder of nuclear power plants General Electric will have gone the way of Westinghouse and sold its nuclear construction division to a foreign owned company Toshiba Corporation of Japan. Given the Democratic led hostile business environment for nuclear power in the United States, we will have no United States owned companies capable of building nuclear power plants.

    The reality is that one nuclear power plant will have a greater contribution to our energy independence than all the contributions of solar, wind, and thermal energy. Only the proposals of John McCain on nuclear power, offshore drilling, wind, and solar energy will make the idea of United States energy independence a reality.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 08/10/2008 5:20:45 PM

    While camping and attending a bluegrass music festival, I took a tour of Comanche Peak Power Plant,the last nuclear power plant built in the United States. The plant is unobtrusive and is at perfect harmony with its environment. It is located near Glen Rose Texas a beautiful area that has bluegrass band festivals in the summer. It is a wonderful scenic country area and home to Dinosaur World and a state park. There are dinosaur tracks from 100 million years ago along the riverbed that can be seen some say are heading in the direction of New York City. The Brazos river flows through and the place is an environmental heaven. There is old green Sinclair Oil Company dinasour statue that stands at the park. Ironically most of the stations and assets of Sinclair Oil Company was bought by Arco Oil Company. Arco Oil Company was a jewell of an American oil company that explored and developed the Alaskan North Slope and at one time owned eighty percent of our Alaskan oil reserves. Arco Oil Company was subsequently bought out later by foreign owned British Petroleum during the second administration of Bill Clinton. The point of this comment is twofold. Democratic hostility toward United States owned energy companies has led to the sale of United States oil companies to foreign interests and that nuclear power plants can even be located next to wonderful wildlife and park areas and make good unobtrusive neighbors. Nuclear power is a friend of the environment and does not emit green house gases.

  • Posted By: PacificGatePost @ 08/09/2008 11:02:17 PM

    A MORE SERIOUS REVERSAL OF FORTUNE AWAITS A FEW OIL TOTALITARIANS

    http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/08/down-side-for-some-petroleum-suppliers.html

    The world has shrunk in the past twenty years, and new doors will open for democracy.


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