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  • Posted By: lsun @ 08/22/2008 5:38:47 PM

    Even I, who have disliked Bush from the very beginning, will concede that the man has done a few things right. But , WHY in heaven's name would you put a picture of him with that headline on the COVER of the magazine?! There are hundreds of very good reasons why his approval rating is in the toilet!

  • Posted By: im2left4u @ 08/22/2008 1:23:50 PM

    It is simply outrageous that anyone, especially a so-called respected journalist, defends a war criminal.

  • Posted By: Booner @ 08/20/2008 1:11:21 PM

    I can't believe this Bush Apologist has been given the cover of Newsweek. As of next week, I'm cancelling my subscription and switching to Time.

    • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/20/2008 6:58:14 PM

      Booner, try to lighten up a tad. He's only the President of the United States, so yes, he rates a cover.

      That said, let's cut to the chase... May I ask, what do you want? Impeachment? Drawn and quartered? Burned at the steak? The fact is it's not going to happen. The fact is you probably supported Bush regarding 9/11... and therefore Bush did something right. Yes, IraqHow about you call it a day and keep your subscription to News Week.. It really is a good mag!

      • Posted By: WorstPresidentEver @ 08/21/2008 8:54:31 PM

        Skypoint, the consumate Bush apologist, continues to grasp at straws by constantly mentioning 9/11 in his posts. Who cares what anyone thought of Bush on 9/11? Let's repeat it all together for the billionth time, shall we? IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11. If he had any support on 9/11 he squandered it all by starting a WAR OF CHOICE. Bush lied to everyone by trying to suggest a link between Iraq and 9/11, just like he lied about WMDs. Yes, Skypoint, impeachment is what I want for Bush, impeachment, conviction, arrest, criminal prosecution and ultimate imprisonment for the most evil person ever to darken the door of the White House.

        • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/21/2008 10:21:30 PM

          Worst,

          You have never read anything where I have apologized for President Bush. Your original post stated that Bush's presidency was a disaster. His presidency included 9/11, and the article written here was about what Bush got right and got wrong, not just Iraq. Yet you gripe because I mentioned 9/11 in my posts. Yes, I do as that was part of his legacy, However, it's ok for you to harp over and over about Iraq. You're entitled to your own opinion about Iraq, but not your own facts! Quit whining about things that you cannot prove about Iraq, and try to move on!!!

          At least you admit that you want Bush impeached and punished with prison. You know it's not going to happen however, because you know that if the powers that be had the proof that you say you have, they would have done so already. So, the next best thing for you is to take your vengeance out on anyone who has anything good to say about the president..

          Ok, now that we understand you, knock yourself out and enjoy!

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/22/2008 8:12:51 AM

            Rose rosse per te,... mio amore........

            • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/22/2008 9:38:47 AM

              Je vous remercie, beau doux Pia!

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/22/2008 8:12:16 AM

          The American people cared. People all over world cared and still do.The people who lost loved ones in the towers in NYC, in DC and in those planes, they cared. Did you lose anyone? Whether you did or not, you should care. Were you presented with a package of ashes to remember your loved one by?

      • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/20/2008 7:04:16 PM

        Booner, sorry for the second post.... nw doesn't have the best editor...

        Once again, my apologies...

    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/20/2008 11:32:23 PM

      Booner, if you would be so shallow as to cancel your subscription to a magazine because they ran an article you disagreed with, then you may as well forget reading any magazine or newspaper, because they all will, at some point, do an article that you will be opposed to; its called freedom of the press. My daily newspaper, often, prints things that I disagree with, but it, also, prints things that I do agree with and enjoy, so, I would not dis-continue my subscription based on some of the articles that are contrary to my beliefs. Do you only watch news channels that you know will agree with everything you believe? If you are that afraid of being exposed to anything different from your views, then that tells me you must not be as sure of your point of view as you want to think you are. If you feel secure and certain of you values, then reading or hearing another person's ideas on the subject will not effect or alter what you believe, unless, as I said, you are not as sure and fear you may just learn something you don't want to accept.

    • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/20/2008 6:30:50 PM

      Booner, Please, tell us what you want? An apology, death at the steak, impeachment? It's not going to happen. Bush broke no laws.

      How about you keep your subscription... (nw really is a good magazine) and understand that most media, even liberal publications like NW and Time, are going to make a stab at being balanced once in a while. If you move to Time, I promise you someone out there is going to write something you don't like and you'll be right back here.

  • Posted By: ojibwa @ 08/22/2008 5:13:22 AM

    i cannot believe you are still writing about this. What is the point?

  • Posted By: jangleling @ 08/21/2008 10:02:58 PM

    It is easy for Obama to criticise the Iraq startegy - especially when he didn't have to vote . The rest of the people who continue to blame Bush - all of your Democratic hindsighters voted for the war - and turned for political reason - nothing said can ever change that.

  • Posted By: opinioned-1 @ 08/21/2008 12:36:37 PM

    Bush is an embarrassment to any intelligent American citizen. The 20% er`s who continue to support this fool live in the same warped bubble of make believe Bush and his cronies have occupied for almost eight years.

  • Posted By: OnlyCure=Truth @ 08/20/2008 10:43:43 PM

    Bush has threatened world war 3 less than a year ago in responding to IRAN

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00xXKjLpaZ0&NR=1

  • Posted By: OnlyCure=Truth @ 08/20/2008 10:10:32 PM

    Skull and Bones secret society that Bush is part of.

    History channel piece about this society.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI6e0MWqtQA&feature=related

  • Posted By: OnlyCure=Truth @ 08/20/2008 10:07:33 PM

    President Kennedy warned about the skull and bones society that Bush SR and JR are part of.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kX0sLFXR0Q&NR=1

  • Posted By: OnlyCure=Truth @ 08/20/2008 9:47:36 PM

    Tax cuts for the wealthy.
    Old 60 minutes interview.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-D1jCZ31Uw&feature=related

  • Posted By: OnlyCure=Truth @ 08/20/2008 9:37:00 PM

    Bush is a liar.
    Watch this old 60 minutes interview and you will see why I say that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inyCkCvqRO0&feature=related

  • Posted By: Ushuaia @ 08/20/2008 5:22:09 PM

    Its amazing, how you can turn things around if you really want to! Very well written article. I'm a staunch democrat, always have been, and the Bush administration has done everything in its power to dissuade me from ever turning to the red side.. With that said, yes we all make mistakes. Really the only fault of Pres. Bush is his own stupidity to have people like Rumsfeld, Cheney & the dividing NeoCons around him. But you have to give credit where its due, and it takes a very brave person to admit that. He's made many many mistakes but kudos to Pres. Bush for at least attempting to clear a speck of dust where a mounds of dirt has accumulated. :)

  • Posted By: Booner @ 08/20/2008 1:10:32 PM

    So Fareed: How much is Karl Rove paying you to write this puff piece in the "respected Newsweek" magazine???

    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/20/2008 3:17:18 PM

      Booner, you don't place a price on truth; this article was written from the heart, not from the wallet. Because you do not agree with something does not make it invalid. And as for losing a family member--been there, done that, and the circumstances of a loss does not make your grief less. Do you not think that most of us, regardless of which political party we belong to, do not feel regret concerning the loss of lives? Innocent lives on both sides are being lost, and when we look into the beautiful faces of the children and people of Iraq, that is difficult to realize that same face may not be around tomorrow, and when we see our military men & women on the networks, fighting for our freedom, as well as their own, that makes us feel many emotions---pride, loneliness that they are not with us, and don't know when they will be, fear for their safety, and sadness when we hear that one or more will not be returning to us alive. War has never been fair, pretty or desireable, but we have come to accept that it is a fact we can not, always, avoid. There are conflicting emotions on both sides of our political parties, and each of us feels strongly that our particular feelings are the correct ones, but we need to allow each other the space to be and to feel what America is all about--freedom to believe and feel whatever our personal attitudes are, regardless of wheather we agree or not, unless those attitudes constitude a direct threat to our country. Booner, if you are so insecure about your personal beliefs, that it leaves no room for anyone else to have a belief of their own, without it being a threat to you, then as much as I am sure Newsweek will regret loosing you as a customer, perhaps its for the best, but I can assure you that, eventually, you will find an article in Time Magazine that you will be offended by, also. Do what you feel comfortable with, and good luck.

  • Posted By: markrowave @ 08/20/2008 1:41:50 PM

    Boo hoo, Booner! Can't you take a well educated and written piece of material for contemplation and reflection of our country's current presidency and political observations as something to bring to the poles in November?
    Seemingly unbiased and well written piece, I can't wait to get into more of your writings.

  • Posted By: Booner @ 08/20/2008 1:21:16 PM

    Man, I wish I was on the take of the RNC or Karl Rove's PACGroup. Come on Fareed. I know your a young "journalist" but this is not constructive observation, all this is is just political BS and propaganda. NO *&^%$#% way in hell can you look some poor family (who have lost their son/daughter in Iraq) in the face and tell them that you believe this bile. You don't belong at Newsweek; you belong at Faux, er, FOX News.

  • Posted By: WorstPresidentEver @ 08/18/2008 12:14:32 AM

    Credible sources? Sure, here you go:
    George Bush claimed that Iraq was trying to buy uranium from Niger. Prior to this claim, however, foreign intelligence services reported to the US that it was their belief that the documents supporting this tale were forgeries. The LA Times reported in December 2005 that the chief of the French counterintelligence service told the Bush administration that there was no truth to the Niger story over a year before Bush lied about it in his 2003 State of the Union address. Mohammed El Baradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency told the UN in early March 2003 that the Niger story was a falshood. Bush didn't care. Nothing was going to stop him from getting his war.
    Here's another. A March 2004 New York Times article quoted officials who said that the Bush administraion was only interested in intelligence that supported their case to go to war. All contrary evidence was dimissed. I can go on and on. Is this what you call responsible government.?

    • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 08/18/2008 12:51:12 AM

      Mr. Clinton...
      As a former President you may recall certain things are very imortant secrets to be kept.. Some secrets remain so even back to World War Two! Much of that is about WHAT WE CAPTURED.
      THATS RIGHT! Such as advanced submarines, super cranes, rapid fire cannons AND rockets from Germany. Most of this remained secret for decades! Some things remain secret to this day!
      What you do with cigars is NOT A SECRET, see?
      What and how much of it that we seized in Iraq will be SECRET (to the point of We- Found-Nothing...officially) for years to come!
      You know that!
      Now take a slack-jawed look around you and you'll notice BUSH AINT RUNNING, and the public is more concerned about the economy, boarder security and education!
      You may recall that threw the months after we captured IRAQ there were scattered reports of bad stuff found, and high levels of toxins in the Euphradeses river.,but the military played these down. YUP! BAD STUFF WMDs are made with, guy! The stuff Blix didn't find!
      The news media said , there were "ONLY" small ammounts found "THOUGH."
      IT DON"T TAKE MUCH TO KILL A LOT OF PEOPLE which is why it is called Weapons Of Mass Distruction in the first place. A point the idiot journalists seemed to forget!
      So what are you doing for your auto-therapy that is productive today, Bill?
      Tell Mendela you really aren't America's First Black President. For a clue, try looking in the mirror.
      Good night Bill. You taxed the dead!

      • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/20/2008 2:00:33 AM

        you are nieve to think that if they found WMD they would not disclose that is the smoking gun they wanted.
        LoL Germany had nothing to offer like you say that is bull. or should i say propoganda.
        LOL you crack me up.

      • Posted By: star3 @ 08/18/2008 1:47:10 PM

        Happy, you are definitely correct about secrets. I was still a child when World War2 ended, but I remember some things, one in particular, and some which I overheard from my parents and other adults. There are probably, still, some people in America who are un-aware of just how close the enemy was able to get to our shores. I grew up in the coast, so I do know about one night in particular when a German submarine was off our shores; fortunately, the coast guard was able to take care of business. There was, also, a German prison camp within walking distance of our home, one day one of the prisoners escaped, but was captured and returned to the camp. All were returned to their homeland after the war, un-harmed, and some fell in love with America, and, eventually, returned to make it their home. We use to go near the camp and watch them play ball out in the courtyard. They were very impressed, I was told, with peanut butter, and loved the food here. Anyway, the incident with the submarine happened about two years into the war, but the public was never told about it until after the war---long after. We knew something was wrong that night, but were never able to find out what until several years later. So, yes, secrets are a part of our government's policy, and that is a good thing in many cases; they have to be very careful what is safe to reveal, because we certainly do not want anything that would put our country in danger. And they have to be extremely careful who they can trust, even within the system. Secrets aren't always bad, and we have to use wisdom concerning, when, under what circumstances, and IF they should be opened up to the general public.

        • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 08/18/2008 2:47:40 PM

          also...a secret kept much longer was the attacks on the Pacific Northwest by long ranger incindiary balloons ... wich caused some deaths.and more than a few forrest fires during WWll! Civil Defence authority deemed it best to keep these a secret. and that was kept secret formore years than the sub shelling our coast.
          .

          What we need to remember about secrets is that the US House and the US Senate are as involved in what is secret and dealing with the information as The President. (checks and balances between partys!).
          Duing the Nam war, there was a major attack (Parrots' Beak area) and the press demanded that Nixon give away the secret time table and goals to the US press! So they could blab to the people ( and the enamy get that info!).
          Nixon would not divulge that it was a temporary operation.
          The press insisted he was just a liar!Deviouse! Being a typical Republican... until they wore him down.
          At a press conference Nixon soon divulged that the operation was of limited term and distance and whithin hours, that whole battle turned into a fiasco! The enamy got the plan and intentions! And so competently re-designed the defence! (= more Americans killed).
          Obama is doing that very thing with his announcement on how he'll withdraw from Iraq!
          Who's side is he on?

          • Posted By: star3 @ 08/19/2008 6:14:05 PM

            Happy, I don't think even Obama knows which side he is on; he will probably make that decision once he figures out where his brain is, which is now squashed from his sitting on it.

          • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 08/19/2008 12:20:43 AM


            So, according to your wacky logic, everything of military importance DOES NOT get disclosed?

            How about keeping Valerie Plame's identity secret? Why didn't they keep THAT a secret? Hmmm? A woman who had the guts to risk her life to keep this country safe by tracking hot nukes. Guts that neither Bush nor Cheney ever exhibited because they never served when duty called. Do you know that the sources she recruited through the years were compromised because her identity was outed? And that other sources will think twice about working for us because they know our government is capable of disclosing their own agents identities and thus put their sources at peril? That's no way to keep the country safe.

      • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 08/19/2008 12:11:07 AM


        Happy, if you are implying for a New York Minute that WMDs may have been found in Iraq and not divulged to the public, you are popping more Oxycontin than Rush Limbaugh. To think this administration, which has shown it is quite capable of selling out a CIA agent working to KEEP US SAFE, and LYING REPEATEDLY to the American public (how un-Christian for this most Christian administration) is just hopelessly naive. Bush is in Iraq to try to preserve his legacy, he is only thinking about how history will judge, no matter how many die in the process. If you think he'd have kept WMDs secret, then you drank the Kool Aid.

        Face reality, the reason why you don't see unicorns is because there ain't none. WMDs were not found because none were there; the inspectors never found any and neither did the military when they went in.

        By the way, I'll never forget how Bush, while campaigning in 2000 said "our military was in the lowest state of readiness since the Civil War". Funny enough, nine months after taking office our military went into Afghanistan and kicked ass, that was an army recruited, trained and equipped under Clinton. What is the state of the military now? Not a SINGLE brigade is combat ready, not a single one. He also said he'd not engage in nation building and that he'd "return integrity to the Presidency". How's he doing on those things by the way?

        You are blind because you want to be.

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 08/15/2008 5:37:37 PM



    Despite His Claim that He Fought to Expose Abramoff, McCain Relies on Abramoff-Linked Advisors and Fundraisers



    WASHINGTON, Aug. 15 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- This week John McCain has stayed busy trying to escape his ties to criminal lobbyist Jack Abramoff and his shady lobbyist colleagues, including Randy Scheunemann and Ralph Reed. The McCain campaign has been trying to gloss over the details of Scheunemann's swings between lobbying and advising McCain, often on issues of interest to recent clients, and attempting to excuse McCain's enlistment of Abramoff crony Reed to raise money. But the McCain campaign can't spin away Scheunemann's shady ties, or his influence on McCain, and they're not having any more success trying to escape the fallout over McCain's refusal to cancel his Monday fundraiser with Reed.



    (Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20080519/DNCLOGO )



    Scheunemann served as McCain's campaign foreign policy advisor in 2000 and is back in 2008, despite lobbying in the interim. Until May, Scheunemann was lobbying for Georgia - earning more than $800,000 in the process - yet now in August, he's advising McCain on the conflict between Georgia and Russia. Scheunemann's other notable lobbying stints include putting his McCain ties to use in 2006 advising Greenberg Traurig, Jack Abramoff's former firm, as McCain served as chairman of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs, charged with investigating Abramoff.



    McCain has also enlisted Abramoff crony Ralph Reed to raise money for his campaign. Abramoff directed at least $4.2 million to Reed as he defrauded his clients, yet as chair, McCain never called Reed to testify before the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs during the Abramoff investigation. Now Reed's helping McCain fundraise, sending emails with the subject line "special invitation from Ralph Reed" to recruit donors to join him at McCain's Monday fundraiser in Atlanta - and McCain is ignoring calls from nonpartisan watchdog groups to cancel the fundraiser.



    Scheunemann and Reed are only two of the cast of McCain advisors and fundraisers who prove how deeply McCain embedded McCain is in the Republican culture of corruption - and just how clear it is that McCain means more of the same old politics.


    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/20/2008 12:45:01 AM

      Wagon, you had better think of a better reason than that if you are entertaining the hope of convincing us to suddenly switch parties, like, maybe he was involved with Jack the Ripper, or it was discovered he was the Zodiac killer back in the 70s. Give us something we can relate to, man! (Just yanking you around, Wagon; know you mean well, but it just ain't gonna happen---we are voting McCain.) (A late response, because I just got around to reading your post). Thanks for the info, useless as it was.

  • Posted By: WorstPresidentEver @ 08/17/2008 10:56:28 PM

    It is an absolute lie that "all of the intelligence indicated he still had them," as you say. There were dissenting voices in the intelligence reports that claimed Iraq had WMDs. This was deliberately omitted from the report given to Congress. Bush and his henchmen cherry picked the intelligence that would support their lust for blood.
    There was also the word of the UM weapons inspectors who were given unrestricted access by Iraqi officials from November of 2002 until March 2003. Chief UN inspector Hans Blix reported that there were very few difficulties in carrying out inspections. In 731 inspectors the UN couldn't find a single violation. Blix said that it would be only a matter of months before inspections could be fininshed. Shouldn't they have been given time to finish. Shouldn't war have been made the last possible option after all others had been exhausted? Shouldn't every effort be made to avoid bloodshed? Surely any decent human being would agree.

    • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/17/2008 11:43:42 PM

      An absolute lie? Please provide us with credible links to your sources, not your opinion. And don't hand me that "there was also word" nonsense for the same reason. Yes, I know what Blix said, however, colossal idiot that he was, Mr. Hussein had simply cried wolf one too many times... last word from me.

      Bottom line, it's been six years! I would tell you once again to get over it, but you're so full of hatred you can't.

      • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 08/19/2008 12:27:01 AM


        Blix was right, wasn't he? And Bush went in anyway because "god told him" and found no WMDs. So who is the colossal idiot?

        • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/19/2008 7:49:36 AM

          Quote: "Blix was right, wasn't he?" I don't agree, but even if I did, it really doesn't matter at this point. In the end, all of this could have been averted months, no, years before it happened. Yes, Hussein was the idiot., as he had 17 UN (not US) resolutions and 12 years to comply, but chose not to.

          God didn't tell Bush to invade Iraq. Saddam asked him to.

          • Posted By: star3 @ 08/19/2008 6:18:53 PM

            Sky, kudos to you for being quite smart yourself! Good post!

            • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/19/2008 6:34:25 PM

              Hi Star! Thanks.... BTW, I read your post about WWII submarines off our coast. It brought back memories of family members that lived on the east coast.... You couldn't even light a cigarette if you were on the beach at night...

              • Posted By: star3 @ 08/19/2008 8:04:40 PM

                Thats true, Sky, according to what I was told, and my husband said his dad was once told to put out his cigarette during a blackout. When the sirene sounded for a blackout, they meant it! I lived on the east coast then, and was just a very young child even when it ended, but I have memories of some of what went on and by listening to the adults. As kids, we did not understand all the significance of all that era and the reasons for using plastic tokens to ride the bus, and stamps to buy shoes, ect. One thing I do remember that impressed me strongly was the day the war ended, and people were honking their car horns, dancing in the streets, hugging each other, and laughing; I knew from listening to all the happy, excited talking, that it was because the war had ended, but i was very confused, because for as long as I could remember anything, we had war, so how does a war end?? What did it mean? How does something end that has always been a part of your life? I don't think the adults realized that we kids could not conceive of that concept. Of course, as we grew older, we were taught in school and began to understand what it was all about. Such a different attitude then about our world and our status in it, than there is now.

        • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/19/2008 9:39:32 AM

          BTW, Muammar al-Gaddafi, defacto leader of Libya learned from Saddam, and decided not to be 'an idiot".

          Smart boy, Muammar.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/19/2008 2:27:53 PM

            He is smart, he's behaving and keeping a low profile...no one has heard about him in years.

            • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/19/2008 7:08:03 PM

              Hi Bella P! Yes, Isn't it amazing how that works! ; )

  • Posted By: davetopper @ 08/17/2008 10:27:41 AM

    It is too late to get around to propping Mr. Bush up on a pedestal now. And once that is tried it is our civic duty to take that pedestal away. There is no point in considering what Mr. Bush got right, ever got right. When we are still trudging through all the mess he has got WRONG.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/19/2008 6:46:33 PM

      DTopper, President Bush does not need propering up. Each of us (those of us who are humans, anyway) can only make decisions based on where we are at that particular time in the history of our lives, and based on the information we have at that time; we can not make a decision based on what we may find out at some later point in time, or what may or may not happen in the vague future. We only have the here and now to make decisions, based on info we have in the present, and that is why there are so many people who wistfully say to themselves "If only I had known then---". However, having said this, I realize the people who are in charge of making decisions which will affect the whole nation, & perhaps the world, has the responsibility to make the very best decision for all concerned that they can, based on what the know, and have been advised, and I believe that is what they did after 9/11. It is not just the president who is involved in decision making, he is our president--not our king. We do not put President Bush on a pedestal, as you claim, but we do respect him and we do believe he did what he felt he needed to do at that point in time, and still needs to do.

    • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 08/17/2008 6:28:39 PM

      What you want, what you would like, is for the Oval Office to repeatedly announce "Americans SUCK because (blah blah). " Then, "Americans SUCK because (yak yak)"... as this is what Liberals need to hear from governmentarians to feel like everythings' fine. Somebody in government cares about them!That the people in Office are acting responsibly.
      When that messaging stops as it did when Clinton left the Oval Office, liberals got fearfull! The Americans-- Suck because messages stopped coming from the Oval office! OHH NO! Now it's a CRISIS!
      Americans--Suck--First is the Liberals Pacifier! As long as Liberals are hearing this message strong, loud, clear and often governmentarians can screw up and screw off all they want and Liberals DON"T CARE!
      Ask Bill Clinton,or Hillary!
      How are you going to get by another 4 , 8 or even 12 years of NOT hearing this Liberal Pacifier from the Oval Office?
      You might prepare for that! Maybe if you understood Americans are great people and America and AWESOME country it would be a start!

  • Posted By: WorstPresidentEver @ 08/17/2008 10:20:25 PM

    I'm amazed that you have the gall to mention 9/11 when the people who carried out the attacks that day are still roaming the world freely nearly 7 years later. To answer your question, I can tell you what I most certainly WOULDN"T have done in response to 9/11. I wouldn't have taken the resources and equipment away from finding the people who perpetrated that crime in order to start a war against a country that had absolutely nothing to do with it. Needless wars of aggression against countries that don't threaten us do not make us safe. Bush's war in Iraq has opened the door for Al Qaeda in a country where they had no foothold before.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/18/2008 1:57:34 PM

      No, Worse, the ones who carried out the attacks are roaming Hell, not earth. If your are speaking of Bin Laden, its just a matter of time. He is a dead man walking, and if he really believes what he has said about becoming "glorified" if he dies for his Allah, then we are more than ready to help him become "glotified". We feel its God's job to judge Bin Laden, its our job to arrange that meeting. I watched the political forum last night, when Obama & McCain were both interviewed and asked some tough questions. Both did fine, but I feel McCain was more believable.

      • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 08/19/2008 12:31:41 AM


        You know, SEVEN YEARS after 9-11, Bin Laden should be a dead man, not a dead man "walking". The biggest mass murdered in American history is roaming free because President Jackass didn't finish the job and invaded the wrong country. And please, spare me the nonsense that Iraq was supporting terrorism in Palestine, because Bin Laden, Al Qaeda and the Iraq insurgency are still getting money from the Saudis, and last time I saw them they were literally holding hands with Bush.

        • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/19/2008 8:01:23 AM

          You should really stop worrying so much about Bin Laden. He is cowering somewhere in Pakistan and has been rendered ineffective. The proof? We were being attacked on a regular basis prior to 9/11, and we haven't had an attack sense.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/19/2008 8:09:59 AM

            GM, Sky. I think Bin Laden may even be dead.

            Thank you for the beautiful gift . Found it this morning.

            • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/19/2008 8:45:46 AM

              You are welcome... likewise for me! ; )

              You may very well be right about BL. I think the last "threat" recording identified as him was about a year ago. Hard to tell though, as Bush probably won't be invited to the funeral.

              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/19/2008 8:56:39 AM

                Bin Laden does/did have serious medical conditions for someone his age-under fifty? Enlarged heart and kidney problems.

                • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/19/2008 9:19:43 AM

                  I read that he was sick, but didn't know the extent. He probably has died... I know his followers will do everything they can to keep anyone from knowing it..

                  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/19/2008 6:12:46 PM

                    Ditto on this and here is a kiss!

                    • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/19/2008 6:44:02 PM

                      E lo stesso per voi, la mia signora. Questi sarà il mio ultimo post per un po '..

        • Posted By: star3 @ 08/19/2008 1:29:05 AM

          Some think he IS dead already. Some think he was killed very early in the attacks, but some may be wrong, and if he is still alive, he must be stalked like the animal he is and made to pay for the damage he has done---monetarily for the destruction, out of his own pocket, then with his death for the many thousands of lives he was responsible for taking, plus he should lose his family along with him, because if he is alive, then they are probably helping to hide him, so why not go after them until they talk. There is no such thing as a fair war, so stop trying to behave so indignant about Iraq, when you know damed well they were involved up to their necks, the whole Middle east is involved if they are Islamic. Stop being so naive. Their involvement may not have been as obvious, but you can bet they were working behind the scenes to help this happen. They may have animosity between themselves, but they ALL have one common goal---kill the infidels, as they refer to us, well, honey we infidels object strongly to their goals concerning us, and fully intend to prevent it happening. I no more believe their Allah told them to kill us than I believe the cow jumped over the moon; thats their EXCUSE, but I do not believe it is their REASON.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/17/2008 11:47:36 PM

      Worse, if Saddam didn't want his country involved in a war with us, then why didn't he keep as low a profile as possible, instead of bragging about all the WMDs he had and was prepared to use? Why has that not been addressed? If he did not have WMDs, then he should not have insinuated he did. He must have known there would be a response to that, but he couldn't resist trying to twist the needle into our, already injured heart, so he got what he asked for, plus more. A lesson in staying out of the way when the eagle's feathers are ruffeled.

    • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/17/2008 11:15:40 PM

      You are laughable! And there you were moments ago slamming someone for not answering your question! Did you support Bush on 9/11 or not? If you did, then he isn't completely rotten, now is he?

      BTW, you must be inferring to Bin Laden about the resource thing... He's ineffective, in case you haven't noticed. He's cowering under a hijab somewhere in Pakistan. Relax pal, we'll get him one day. You really have been safe since 9/11, even though we haven't actually caught the coward, now haven't you?

      And the crime's only in your mind... get over it.

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