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  • Posted By: WorstPresidentEver @ 08/17/2008 7:10:27 PM

    I found myself one evening nearly eight years ago n a political chatroom discussing the events of the recent election. It was the the evening of the Supreme Court's decision to halt the democratic process and hand the election to George Bush. I was incensed by this decision and I railed away at Bush denouncing him as a fraud and a moron. His presidency, I predicted, would be a disaster for America. I wrote that all Americans had a duty to oppose any and all policies that this pretender might try to force upon the country. Still basking in their ill gotten victory, the conservatives in the chatroom were horrified by my talk. One of them went so far as to call me a traitor. (Nothing offends conservative sensabilities as much as the mere whiff of dissent.) Well, my friends, eight years have passed and you know what? Everything I said that night about George Bush has come true. Everything his supporters said has been wrong. Absolutely everything. There are those, like Newsweek's Fareed Zakaria, who acknowledge his failures yet seem to believe that Bush deserves some credit for trying to correct his blunders. I might be inclined to agree were it not for a few simple truths. Bush's failures were not the result of well intentioned policies aimed at situations he inheirited. Nor were they the result of simple poor judgement in the face of events that were forced upon him. No, Bush's failures are the direct result of situations that he and his regime criminally and wilfully created. For this he should never be forgiven. The war in Iraq was a war of choice based ENTIRELY on fraud and lies. Over 4000 American soldiers and more than 100,000 Iraqi civilians are dead because of this evil man's disregard for simple human deceny. At Nuremberg, we gave such actions names like waging a war of aggression, crimes against peace and crimes against humanity. This is how George Bush should be remembered. This should be his legacy. There are those here who have written that we should move forward and not dwell on Bush's mistakes. I respectfully disagree. Just as Germans must never foget what their country did during the Second World War, Americans must never forget the shame of these past 8 years. Those in Congress on both sides of the aisle should share in the burden of shame, Republicans for rubber stamping Bush's policies, Democrats for refusing to provoide opposition, deciding instead to be "good Germans." Only by facing up to the evil that has been done by George Bush in our name will we be able to move out from under the dark cloud that has been his presidency. Unfortunately, I fear that the stain he left on this nation will remain for may years after his stench has been removed from the White House.

    • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 08/17/2008 7:48:31 PM

      Sorry Mr. Clinton but I'm not buying a word of this. But good of you to sign as WORSTE PRESIDENT EVER!
      you're becoming honest!
      New therapist?

      • Posted By: WorstPresidentEver @ 08/17/2008 8:51:49 PM

        Is that the best you've got? Come back when (and if) you can provide an intelligent counter argument that refutes the following FACTS:
        There were NO WMDs.
        The was NO link between Iraq and 9/11
        There was NO connection beyween Saddam and Al Qaeda.
        These were the reasons Bush gave for going to war. None of them were true and he knew it. That makes him a criminal. His hands an the hands of his supporters are covered in blood.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/19/2008 2:32:39 PM

          I still believe there were WMD's. They were taken to Syria before the invasion. They're still there.

          • Posted By: star3 @ 08/19/2008 4:22:30 PM

            Pia, I agree about there were WMDs, and they were removed to another location. There were reports of trucks being seen moving something over a peroid of time just as we were preparing to go there. If they do exsist, and if we had not gone there, you can bet Saddam would have had no qualms about putting them to use toward us, if for no other reason than to compete with OBL, but I'm sure he had his own agenda, also. Of course, this is all speculation, but those people have proven they can not be trusted, so we have been left with no choice except to take seriously their every threat and to believe they are a potential danger to, not only America, but to the world in general. We can not afford to play the wait & see game with them.

        • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/17/2008 10:20:27 PM

          Monday morning quarterback.... You're so certain of all this, surely you were present in all the top level meetings between the nations who chose to go to Iraq with us. And like it or not, all of the intelligence indicated he still had them. Geez, Hussein only killed somewhere around 300,000 people with them, now didn't he.

          And don't forget the little things.... like over 17 UN resolutions and 12 years had passed, and Hussein was still firing shots over UN inspectors heads. He also held regularly scheduled drills with his troops in full chemical dress gear to threaten anyone from an invasion. And finally, most of Congress voted to go. (yes, they were free to vote either way).

          We got it... The war is ugly and mistakes have been made. Why don't you look for solutions instead of whining about things you cannot prove, and worse, know nothing about

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/17/2008 10:34:16 PM

            Sky, I second all of this with a kiss.

            • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/17/2008 10:58:59 PM

              Thanks Bella P!

              I'm on my way over...

        • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 08/17/2008 9:13:50 PM

          Mr. Clinton:
          You waged a discrimination campaign from the Oval Office for 8 years against good Americans and the Americans who make this country work ! You failed to respond to several terrorist attacks which included the first bombing of the Twin Towers building!
          You lied to the American people and got impeached.
          Is THAT the best you've got?
          Now you're passing you're discrimination campaign blueprint onto Obama . He is finding Americans hate discrimination campaigns which may be why the DNC has such low approval of how they run the US Congress.
          You are the worst President ever! And I'd ask you when this honesty -thing came over you...but you'd probably lie! Go bother the National Lawyers guild!

    • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/17/2008 9:52:37 PM

      Maybe I missed it, but I think you left out 9/11 in your crucification. Did you support Bush's response, or would you have done what his predecessor did, which was nothing? One thing is certain... your level of hatred for a man who has made your country safer is absolutely astounding. (yes, we haven't been attacked since 9/11, and it isn't because Bush used harsh language).

      BTW, you're still crying after eight years because the Supreme Court just didn't see things your way? Man, have you ever gone through the Kleenex!

  • Posted By: joeflebetes @ 08/19/2008 3:58:19 PM

    I agree that there are plenty of problems from W's adminstration, but with concerning Iraq and Afghanistan, I believe we cannot make a complete judgement right now... as General Eisenhower said at the end of WWII regarding our takeover of Germany, "The success of this occupation can only be judged fifty years from now. If the Germans at that time have a stable, prosperous democracy, then we shall have succeeded."

    Ike knew you cannot judge history when you are in the midst of it... unfortunately, the people who run the country will be long gone by the time we can objectively say whether or not they did the right or wrong thing.

  • Posted By: mashu_kun @ 08/19/2008 2:05:10 PM

    When I picked up this edition and saw the title, "What Bush Got Right" I immediately realized that this will be the shortest version of Newsweek ever!

  • Posted By: mashu_kun @ 08/19/2008 2:04:06 PM

    When I picked up this issue and saw the title, I immediately realized that this will be the shortest version of Newseek ever!

  • Posted By: Tea6 @ 08/17/2008 9:30:52 AM

    President Bush stood watch over the biggest drain of US based jobs in history.
    He even did in the middle class taking away their job growth. I guess the top 1% feel that the lower 99% of Americans are too stupid to see realize what they are doing.

    • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/19/2008 10:31:10 AM

      T6,

      I don't like outsourcing any more than you do, but exactly how would you suggest Bush, or then Pres. Clinton for that matter, (as that's where it had its beginnings) stop corporations from doing so? Executive order? Both understood this cannot be legislated and neither would have even attempted it. Lower prices demanded for products and services are what drives outsourcing.

      BTW, even with outsourcing, unemployment under both Bush and Clinton has averaged at 4 percent or slightly above... those averages are among the lowest in history.

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/19/2008 12:22:28 AM

    Smear the French who said lets do more checking first.
    The french should be the US clossest allie why are they not?
    Because they are not close with England who has conqured America.

    • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/19/2008 8:34:16 AM

      "Smear the French who said lets do more checking first."

      Right. Never mind the previous 12 years of "checking" while UN inspectors were being fired upon.

      Once again, all of this is academic at this point. Saddam had years of opportunity of avert the invasion, but chose not to do so. A mistake on his part, and given his current 'position', I am sure he would agree.

      England has conquered America???

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/19/2008 1:04:59 AM

    There is a cure but you dont want to hear it.

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/19/2008 12:47:04 AM

    The raping of civil liberties is over now so what happens next?
    Dictatorship is all set up ready to go into full action as soon as the next Katrina, or a "terrorist attack" happens. Then all hell will break loose round up all the insurgents who want no more death and mayhem.
    The new name for peacefull protest will be insurgents. protest of anykind against them is considered a threat to national security. FEMA was slow in reacting to Katrina because it was not set up to deal with a Major hurrican persay. It was set up to keep the peace in the event of a nuclear disaster. Thats where the shadow governent run by the vice president came from. And by the way Bush Sr was the vice president when that unholy thing was created.

  • Posted By: kenkrk @ 08/19/2008 12:26:30 AM

    Fareed is wrong about the current situation in Iraq. Sadar's militia has not been disbanded or disarmed, which was one of the goals of the surge. They are only observing a cease fire. The Sunni Awakening troops have never exhibited loyalty to the Central Government. Baghdad is islands of walled areas patrolled by militia or Government troop loyal to the ethnics in each community. The Kurd's ignore the rest of Iraq. Regarless of when we leave, there will be a civil war.

  • Posted By: kenkrk @ 08/19/2008 12:19:25 AM

    Fareed makes a major mistake in describing Iraq's present situation. Sadar's militia have not been disarmed or disbanded which was one of the surges goals. They are observing a cease fire but all hell will break out as soon as we leave. The Sunni Awakening soldiers have never accepted that they owe loyalty to the Central Government but now they are better armed. Baghdad is made up of walled communities.








    protected by their own militias

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/19/2008 12:18:51 AM

    Senior French sources accused Mr Blair of a faulty memory. "Only four out of the 15 members of the Security Council supported a new resolution and Britain needed nine to win approval. It is completely wrong to blame it on France," said one official.

    France had to stand by as the Dual world power of US and Britain waged a campiegn on there own to take a country down who had no ability to make Weapons of Mass destruction or even fight its nieghbor Iran if it had to.
    Why would such a thing be nessesary? After the first Gulf war Iraq was under constant eye and control by the US govenment.

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/19/2008 12:07:37 AM

    Civilian deaths at alarming rates is the norm in war fare today.
    This is supported by the US government.
    What is to stop them from turning on me a civilian because I dont like them?
    What is to keep them from killing my family because they are related to someone that does not like them?
    I will never be freinds or like someone who kills people just to make a point. Bully
    And if I die because I say this so be it. I would rather die having peace knowing i did not participate in there activities in fact i detest there activites.

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/18/2008 11:56:30 PM

    France let it go for peace.
    Would Germany have done that?
    Would Russia have done that?
    Would the US have done that under the current system?
    No. Now is the worst time in US history.
    Kennedy made a speech you should listen to. He was very concerned about secret societies and secret government agencies. He was right but he was killed. And some say by one of those secret agencies right in the US government that was under the direction of George Bush Sr. and now look at things under Jr.

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/18/2008 11:51:05 PM

    The French loved america so much they allowed it to purchase the south that it had colonized in the Louisianna Purchase.
    Rather than go to war they let it go.
    Would England have done that?

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/18/2008 11:46:01 PM

    By slick means i mean many things curruption, esponage, spy agencies, shadow government, back door meetings, secret societies, propoganda. All the things that the founding fathers feared from England their enemy. Who would call the founding fathers terrorist only England because they viewed revolutionist in america messing with there trade routes and supplies as terrorist.
    England Has Won the War on Terror in the US by defeating the Constitution of the United States and setting up a Dictator and an organization to keep it that way the CFR.

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/18/2008 11:35:11 PM

    Who sent over the statue of Liberty the French.
    What did England send only the bankers to take your GOLD.

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/18/2008 11:33:34 PM

    Dont you find it odd that Bucknging Ham palace is still standing after all the bombing of England. Hmm maybe there is something to that dunno. And France was left to be run over by the NAZI's hmm maybe there is something to that.
    But keep your head in the sand because blind following of a tyrant is what tyrants want.

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/18/2008 11:31:00 PM

    France took the high road and said no to BUSH.
    Even there people have it bad because of curruption in government. But they have never supported this blood bath or the previous ones.
    They seem to have more sense and for that reason i admire them.
    Britain and the US are basically the same now a dual world power.
    The English finally re-conquered the new world again.
    The French who supported america in it's bid for independence from tyranny of England have been left standing with no one.
    And the power brokers have seized the oppurtinity given them through slick means.

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/18/2008 11:23:25 PM

    The 21st century already has it's worst dictator --------------- and he is a US president.

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/18/2008 11:18:52 PM

    Yes it is murder to send someone else haples soldiers to fight a war under a pretense of Weapons of Mass Destruction. The US never lost control of IRAQ since the first war with IRAQ that obliterated them. So Jr had to go in for what reason? Clean up the mess pop left behind no doubt. Something needed cleaned up.
    In acient times civilian causulties where not acceptable. Only crimanals resort to killing civilians to prove a point. Bullying. There is no military in IRAQ so why be there there was no military before they went in to speak of.
    Skypoint and others who defend this tyrant must be doing so because they are blood guilty themselves and it hurts to hear it was wrong.

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