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  • Posted By: Bon Jour Lausanne @ 08/13/2008 3:47:02 AM

    Bush pleased China by ignoring Taiwanese' determination to have an independent country. When Bush and his administration claimed to bring democracy to Iraq, why did he ignore Taiwanese' right to form an independent country through a referendum? When world leaders try to get in bed with China, why should Taiwanese pay the prices? When world leaders advocate human rights in China, please think about what you have done to Taiwanese.

  • Posted By: votenic @ 08/12/2008 12:59:07 PM

    To This Article, I say two Things:
    Would You make a better president?
    and How do we know McCain or Obama can do any better with the same resources?

    • Posted By: DoctorJazz @ 08/13/2008 3:32:58 AM

      Well, yeah I would definitely make a better president that Bush. Most non-psychopaths would. Barney the dog would have been a far better president.

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/13/2008 1:18:12 AM

    Bush was not elected. then Enron based in Texas with ties to the White House starts messing with the power market and creates the California energy crises causing rolling blackouts that later a determined manufactured munipulated by Enron that state of emergency was lifted in September 2001 and then the world trade center attacks happen, then the US goes to war with afganistan by the 10th of October and then later goes to War with Iraq that is still not over and now Russia is all over Gorgeia the day the Olympics start.

    Before you know it Isreal will be nuking Iran and the US will be at War with Iran and Russia and so called terrorist............. And you get to pay for it .............. Sounds like a scam to me.

    • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/13/2008 1:20:59 AM

      To HELL in a handbasket !!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: soldout2truth @ 08/10/2008 10:25:55 PM

    Skyway45 is right! If anyone would care to delve into the readings of the Muslim liturature (espeacially the radicalist groups) they will find that they are committed to killing us period. Once the-powers-that-be look the other way from them, they will continue to push their cause and destroy all those who do not agree that "Allah's flag" should be raised around the world. I wish that others would read their creed's and doctrine's (e. g. Hamas). Religion may be their excuse, but it is the fuel of passion that is being bred into the young minds in their cultures.

    And YES! the choice b/n Obama and McCain is .... unfortunate

    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/11/2008 1:03:03 AM

      I completely agree. Concerning Allah's flag--I would not even consider using it to wipe my butt, i would never allow it that close to me. What I would do is allow Bin Laden to salute the American flag, while standing on top of the Empire State building, singing God Bless America, broadcast all over the world, then when he has completed that, shove him off it.

      • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/11/2008 11:19:02 AM

        i guess asking you to read the quran so you actually know what your talking about is out of the question then, the next best thing would be if you don't have anything nice to say than don't say it

        • Posted By: star3 @ 08/12/2008 4:01:47 PM

          I have read part of the Quran---have you read part of the Bible? About the kindest thing I can say about this religion is I pray God will open their eyes to the truth. I don't hate Muslims, I don't hate anyone. Do Muslims hate us? Only they can answer that. I just hate terrorist, who hide behind religion in an attempt to justify their actions. I, often, suspect that religion, in general, was designed as a tool by the devil to cause humans to argue and try to destroy each other over a belief system. Isn't it God's job to judge who is right--if anyone is? Satan hates us, and he hates for us to enjoy the blessings God has given us; on the otherhand, God loves us, and delights in seeing us happy, and at peace with one another. He gave us free choice, shouldn't we use it wisely in appreciation of all he has done for us? Just food for thought..

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/12/2008 11:00:01 PM

            Excellent post, star!

            • Posted By: star3 @ 08/13/2008 1:20:02 AM

              Thank you, Pia. And may I say that while Americans may be divided politically, we are still ALL Americans, and I still believe any enemy might be surprised to know that we ban together against a common enemy. That was apparent, once, in the news chat room, when the Right & the Left were tearing each other apart---until a Canadian came into the room and began to spout mean things against America in general, and The American people; you should have seen the way the room suddenly changed to turn on him. He cpuldn't understand why, since as he stated, we were all doing the same thing to each other just a few minutes ago. We told him, they may be Liberals, but they are OUR Liberals, and the liberals did the same--we were THEIR right wingers! It was beautiful. Just proves, like any family, we may fight among ourselves, but God forbid an outsider should pick on one of us! Just wish it was more apparent within our country, that we DO still have the same strong, determined to be free genes that were passed on to us by our various ancestors. I still believe in the American spirit, and that, we will remain intact, and care about one another, not because of our differences, but in spite of them. If that makes me sound like a little Susie Sunshine, then I say, well...if Dorthy could go over the rainbow to find the Land of Oz, then why can't I?

    • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 08/10/2008 10:50:03 PM


      Soldout2truth,

      As I'm sure you know, there are radical Islamic groups which called for the destruction of the West. Just like there are Radical Christian groups which say we should take over their lands (oil) and imposed Christianity on them. In fact, look at any large enough religion and you are bound to find fringe groups like this. You'll also find that none of these groups has any wide appeal anywhere. Think, just for a minute, that you were an Iraqi Muslim and you know the US, under a president that has called for a "Crusade" against terror, has just invaded your country under false pretenses and has most of its army in it. How would you feel? Think of the Iranians. Pretend for a second that Argentina attacked China, and then the Chinese turn around invade Mexico and tell you, pretty much, the US might be next. How do you feel the US would react to that? Then, can you blame the countries in the Middle East for distrusting our presence? Can you blame the moderate Muslims for thinking the radicals, although wrong, are not completely without a point? Would you not feel that a government of radical Christians is attacking you? That which you fear, an invasion by zealots is what some Iraqis feel they are under.

      Then think about this, why has the number of the poor in the US and the number of radicals in the ME grown under Bush? Don't take my word for it, look at the research (Census Bureau and Department of Defense) and decide for yourself if this president has not made every problem worse.

    • Posted By: skyway45@comcast.net @ 08/10/2008 10:31:34 PM

      Your are a much better diplomat than I am. Unfortunate is a very good choice for this.

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/11/2008 1:23:53 AM

    Let's close out the night with a few chuckles..................

    BEST OBAMA JOKES
    Craig Ferguson: Barack Obama was in Germany today, and he did this speech and 100,000 people showed up. There were so many Germans shouting and screaming that France???surrendered just in case.

    Jimmy Kimmel: They really love Barack Obama in Germany. He's like a rock star over there. Impressive until you realize that David Hasselhoff is also like a rock star over there.

    David Letterman: Signs Barack Obama Is Overconfident.
    *Proposed bill to change Oklahoma to Oklabama.
    *Offered Bush 20 bucks for the Mission Accomplished banner.
    *Asked guy at Staples, Which chair will work best in an oval-shaped office?
    *Having head measured for Mount Rushmore.
    *Offered McCain a job in gift shop at Obama Presidential Library.

    Jay Leno: Of course, Obama???s supporters got him his usual birthday gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh.

    Jay Leno: Obama???s people are trying to portray McCain as cranky, and McCain is trying to portray Obama as arrogant, you see. And when Obama was asked what he thought about being called arrogant, well, he said he was above having to answer that question.???

    Jay Leno: See Barack Obama on the news? He???s becoming a workout fanatic. He???s at the gym, like, twice a day, sometimes three times a day at the gym, yeah, according to his staff. Well, he has to stay in shape to do those flip-flops.

    Jay Leno: Barack Obama back from his big European tour. Did you see him in Europe? People were cheering him, holding up signs, blowing him kisses. And that was just the American media covering the story.

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/13/2008 12:53:57 AM

      LOL! Good ones, H.R.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/11/2008 5:52:01 PM

      Thanks for the laughs Holy!

  • Posted By: Getrealjones @ 08/11/2008 3:17:44 AM

    In about 20 years or so, all you Bush haters, assuming you are stiill alive, whll be in shock to learn thiat this guy will be considered one of our great presidents, while at the same itme, your beloved Bill Clinton, will be remembered as the slick talking asswipe that allowed 9/11 to happen, will be considered a failed president. Sorry to burst your bubble, but this will absolutely be history's view.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/11/2008 4:14:18 AM

      I seem to remember 9/11 happening on George Bush's watch.

      • Posted By: loriw @ 08/11/2008 5:49:29 PM

        The terrorist were planning their attacks during the Clinton administration while everyone was trying to figure out if Bill had sexual relations with that woman" or not.
        Clinton ignored affairs abroad while he had affairs with broads.

        • Posted By: star3 @ 08/13/2008 12:50:35 AM

          Yeah...too bad Monica forgot to tell Bill about OBL's plans to annihilate us when they were having those secret meetings in the oval office, but then, guess they were too busy discussing the fine qualities of cigars, that it completely slipped her mind. Now, if he could have spared a few moments to speak with his executive advisors, he may have been able to pick up on that bit of info.

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/11/2008 8:35:55 AM

      Sorry to burst your bubble, but Iraq and Afghanistan will be considered failures on a grander scale than Vietnam.

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/11/2008 9:32:29 AM

        I would really love to hear that theory. I didn't know they made Kool-Aide, that potent. That comment is below dumb and stupid. And you mocked the National Enquirer. Get real.

        NOBAMA!!

        • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/11/2008 3:40:52 PM

          of course i mocked the national enquirer, they can't even pretend to call it a news source. I bet you think fox news is peachy too. I for one think illegaly invading a country is not a praise worthy and should be punished by international courts, especially considering that this "campaign" was never ratified by congress and eventually changed into an outright war without any sort of democratic process. Not to mention illegal detainment of foreign civilians, and my favorite: torture. maybe you should try debate before resorting to petty insults. being called stupid by an idiot doesn't hurt my feelings

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/11/2008 10:44:30 AM

      yeah right unless american education continues down this road, i'll never live long enough for everyone to become that retarded. if you think bush is really such a great president you need to do some serious soul searching. I personaly hope to see him punished for war crimes in my lifetime, what a sweet dream

    • Posted By: freecitizen @ 08/11/2008 3:33:16 AM

      It IS quite possible that America WILL continue to slide into a state of idiocracy where Bush might appear to be a great posrtive historic figure. Who was it that said? "Nobody ever went broke under estimating the intellence of the American people." As we of the dying American Empire thrash about for "somebody to restore us to our previous glory " our taste for trigger happy men of strength will not serve us well. We have reached, as all empires do, the point of deminishing returns when the cost of maintaining the empire greatly exceeds the rewards.

  • Posted By: Ipanema @ 08/12/2008 12:53:09 PM

    If I recall it right, Mr. Zakaria was one of the media voices who supported the current Administration and the Neocon in their push to take us to war in Iraq. This solely disqualifies him to pass judgement on the disastrous Bush, "The Idiot in Chief," Administration. This wayward President did the following things (not an exhaustive list by any means) which makes him the worst President in the US History, bar none:

    1) Lied to the American People about Weapons of Mass Disriuction in Iraq.
    2) Subverted the US Constitution, which the idiot called "just a piece of paper," by violating all kinds of laws, such illegal wiretaps, toture in Al Graib prison, the travesty of Guatanamo Bay, lieing to Congress, producing signing statements that are illegally attached to bills, use public funds to finance Karl Rove's facist pursuit of people such as valrie Plane, etc.
    3) Destriyed US National reputation in the World.

    For Mr. Zakaria to disingenously to point out the accomplishment in North Korea, etc, is like for a rape victim to thank the rapist for closing the door after doing the crime, so that no burglar can burgalize the house. Just preposterous.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/12/2008 11:30:22 PM

      Saddam Hussein was himself a weapon of mass destruction- he killed thousands of his own people.
      I personally am glad we took him out of power . His sons were no better- killers and rapists.

  • Posted By: Ilona Siegel @ 08/12/2008 10:44:29 PM

    Jon Meacham says, "whether history vindicates his course" when referring to Bush's foreign policy, the bottom line is that we shouldn't have been in Iraq to begin with. Check out Suskind's new book, he tells you how we got to Iraq. George W. Bush might be getting it right now (and that's debatable), unfortunately, while we're waiting to find out how the movie ends, over 4000 American soldiers will never have the opportunity to find out if they died in vain. To say that the Bush foreign policy of 2008 in Iraq isn't the same as the Bush foreign policy of 2001 in Iraq isn't necessarily true for those young men and women who are still risking their lives in Iraq and have yet to die in this debacle. Do we give Bush a pass on his early blunders by lowering the learning curve to accommodate "C" student frat boy's presidential IQ? Yeah, "W" was checking his watch at the Olympics opening night just like the classy guy that he is, and I'm checking mine until the January inauguration of Barack Obama.

  • Posted By: macsimcon @ 08/12/2008 7:32:42 PM

    This is not horseshoes we're talking about here, it's the Presidency of the United States, arguably the most important position on Earth. You don't get do-overs, and you don't get accolades for realizing too late that your policies killed hundreds of thousands, destroyed your country's economy, and shredded its founding document. Sorry, Bush doesn't get credit for finally making the obvious, the trivial, or the correct choices. And being buddies with one of the most fascist countries on the planet doesn't get him brownie points; China is ruthlessly exploiting the countries in Africa and South America, and their ownership of our debt, as well as their commitment to coal and pollution make the Chinese government a danger to freedom, and to us all. Make no mistake, they are dangerous not because they are communists, but because they are fascists. As much as Bush would like to privatize all government functions in the U.S., thus creating a home-grown fascist state, it's not legal under the Constitution for him to do so. He's too stupid to recognize that he is merely President, and not king. He's a black eye on our nation, and perhaps the only mediocre decisions he's made concern aid to poor countries. However, when you balance that generosity with the damage he's done: the fruitless wars, weakened dollar, increased pollution, fewer rights, greater terrorism (and thus greater death), it should be obvious to even the most dim-witted Republican that he's going to go down as the worst President in American history. He's a thug, liar, murderer, and traitor without peer in our country's history. We're supposed to be a beacon of light, not a harbinger of doom.

    • Posted By: DavidCA @ 08/12/2008 10:31:30 PM

      You're 100% right, macsimcon. Bush has sacrificed every American ideal to promote questionable ends. Sure, he occasionally stopped short of embarrassing us, but even by that lowest of conceivable expectations, our dimwit-in-chief has been a colossal failure. It is more important for the next president to firmly repudiate Bush's mess than to pick through the stinking refuse of the last eight years for some misshapen pearl of his achievement.

  • Posted By: burns26 @ 08/10/2008 8:09:30 PM

    I am sure glad that we had a president that was more concerned with what is right then with his popularity. I don't know why people believe that the media is the final say on what is a success and what is a failure. If you ask me, the media is the biggest failure.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/12/2008 9:29:26 PM

      Ever notice how the only ones who have all the answers concerning the best way to run the country are never on the ballot? I believe there is an opening on the ballot coming up in November if any of you armchair experts care to put in your bid for it. First we elect them, then we preceed to rip them apart...yeah, a real fun job.

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/12/2008 9:26:00 PM

    And let's hope the next president is Obama!

    Excellent article, Fareed Z. I always enjoy your more in-depth analyses and learn a great deal about the rest of the world from your articles. The Rise of the Rest was also superb.

    I remember hearing that during the first Bush Administration, the policy was known as "ABC" = "Anything But Clinton" and it amazes me how someone who made it to the White House could actually dismiss Bill Clinton's successes and underestimate the importance of learning from one's predecessor.

    Glad you pointed out that Bush has learned and during his second administration his policies have become more flexible, more centrist and more conciliatory. I still deplore the torture, the ill will generated by the Iraq war, the homelessness and suffering his policies have caused so many millions of people, and the terrible gutting he gave to our economy and our budget surplus under Clinton.

    Bush is, in effect, perhaps the worst president we've ever had in the entire history of the USA. But your article is instructive and I hope both candidates will take the time to read it. I think Obama is already leading this country; McCain can't seem to find his voice, and he's gotten just too silly in recent weeks (since Obama's success overseas). In fact, he's almost become frivolous (McCain, that is) in a world that is dynamically shifting to a completely "new world order" as you say.

  • Posted By: niteshft_1 @ 08/10/2008 8:40:43 PM

    There is a problem that is greater than the goings on around the world that we have interests in. It's the public that believes everything they hear and read in the news. It isn't the broadcasters fault, they are working on thier own feelings and what might make news. It is our responsibility to filter what we hear with our own intelegence. Real reporters are far and few in-between.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/12/2008 9:21:16 PM










      Good observation, Nite.

  • Posted By: niteshft_1 @ 08/10/2008 8:43:59 PM

    21stCent......you never misstype?

    • Posted By: 21stCent @ 08/10/2008 9:11:32 PM

      My typing is extremely bad.I make mistakes all the time.
      My view of neocons is extremely good.They make mistakes all the time.

      • Posted By: star3 @ 08/12/2008 9:18:01 PM

        21st, mistakes is why they put erasers on pencils. Mistakes means you're human, perfect would mean you're divine, most of us haven't reached that level, yet.

      • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/11/2008 3:53:14 PM

        yeah big 'ol mistakes that have set us back decades

  • Posted By: arealpatriot @ 08/10/2008 8:47:49 PM

    dajohnson5 - You are absolutely correct. This democrat controlled congress has the lowest approval ratings in history and reminds me alot of Jimmy Carter-just inept as hell and useless. All talk and no action for anything worth anything. Pelosi is a joke no matter how you look at her. So are most of the democrat congress. Just a joke. Period.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/12/2008 9:12:00 PM

      Areal, you pretty much nailed it. Right on the head. Agree.

    • Posted By: cobalt6 @ 08/10/2008 9:57:53 PM

      arealpatriot: I totally agree with your comment! The democratic congress is why the economy and everything else is not getting better. They want to make sure a democrat wins the white house. Polosi is a joke. No matter who wins the white house things will get better after the november election!

  • Posted By: freedomteam @ 08/10/2008 9:20:36 PM

    As real americans We should always do whatever is needed to get the information from those who want to destroy us. I am so glad we had someone in the white house willing to do that. If it had been anyone of the many liberals, we would have already been hit again and again. THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH FOR PROTECTING US. That is something liberals will never do.

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/11/2008 11:38:00 AM

      yeah peace by bombing! we'll just annihilate anyone we perceive as a threat, that should work out great.

      • Posted By: star3 @ 08/12/2008 9:08:40 PM

        Good plan, Jank, works for me.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/12/2008 9:07:07 PM

      Agree, Freedom. No doubt a Liberal would have invited the enemy to discuss the situation over tea & crumpets. What they don't get, is that this enemy is unlike any we have ever had to deal with before, these do nit care about life--not ours or their own, They consider it an honor to die for their belief, and believe they will be "glorified" by doing so, and they want to take us out with them so their Allah will give them ten virgins, and all I have to say about that is, come on over and let us help you with that goal, you'll be glorified in about five seconds of showing your face. Liberals, also, don't understand that these terrorist are called terrorist for a reason---they have one thought in mind: Kill anyone & everyone who does not believe as they do, they want control of the entire world, peroid. They don't give a rat's behind about "talk", so if liberals think Obama will be able to reason with this kind of mind set, they are in for a rude awakening. OK, I'll get off the soapbox now.

  • Posted By: lroebuck @ 08/10/2008 9:24:17 PM

    "But most of all, Bush's humility, integrity and conviction are what I am going to miss most next year. He has those in spades over Obama and McCain."

    http://roebuckreport.blogspot.com/2008/08/its-wonderful-presidency.html

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/10/2008 9:29:46 PM

      Especially conviction. He may still be convicted of war crimes.

      • Posted By: mrwnt10 @ 08/10/2008 9:46:29 PM

        How many of you would have stood your ground as President Bush did in 2006, when everyone told him we should pull out of Iraq and leave the Iraqis to be slaughtered? Bush showed amazing courage in those years, as did John McCain, one of the few who supported Bush's successful surge strategy.

        I respect George Bush greatly for his conviction

        • Posted By: star3 @ 08/12/2008 8:53:29 PM

          Doing the right thing usually always takes courage, and it isn't, always, popular. I admire anyone who can ignor the controversey and do what he knows to be the right thing in spite of it. It may not make you popular with everyone, but to those who love freedom, ot was a heroic act. Jesus wasn't popular, either And before any of you libs out there start---no I am not making a comparison of G. Bush to Jesus. Liberals are not wrong in wanting to avoid war, but they are wrong in believing it is always possible.

        • Posted By: lroebuck @ 08/11/2008 12:18:44 AM

          Here is my new Pro-Bush blog. WE WILL MISS GEORGE BUSH!
          http://wewillmissbush.wordpress.com/

      • Posted By: Phaedrus @ 08/11/2008 12:18:23 AM

        These puns - they really are funny!

  • Posted By: FairfieldPinpoint @ 08/12/2008 8:13:14 PM

    Daletoon of the Day: Greetings From Nancyville

    Now that Congress has gone on vacation, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has found a moment to send "the people" a postcard, and to top it all off, she has solved the energy crisis.


    http://www.allrightmagazine.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=390

    http://www.allrightmagazine.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=390





  • Posted By: Jazzy2 @ 08/10/2008 9:40:27 PM

    Another Bush Hater fails to recognize the unbelievaqble accomplishments of thisw mngreat andtruly dedicated american.
    The main stream media diatribe continues. over and over and over and over......

    • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 08/10/2008 9:57:29 PM


      Care to name ONE accomplishment?

      • Posted By: morgan103 @ 08/10/2008 10:00:34 PM

        He has kept us safe over the last 7 years. Have we been attacked since 9/11? No. now STFU

        • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 08/10/2008 10:11:05 PM


          You seem to forget something all right wing nuts do; WE WERE ATTACKED UNDER BUSH'S WATCH! 9-11 didn't happen under Clinton, who, had a briefing on Bin Laden at least once a week. How many briefings did Bush have on Bin Laden pre-9-11? Zero!

          Now, take your nasty comments and shove it where the sun don't shine.

          • Posted By: star3 @ 08/11/2008 2:06:24 AM

            YOU seem to be forgetting that Mr. Bush had only been in office for eight months when 9/11 happened---the previous president had eight years to prevent 9/11, yet did not do so. President Bush came into office amist a bunch of left over ugly debris left from the previous administration, and was expected to do in the eight months he had been in office, what the other one had not managed to do in the eight years he had. Get a reality check! Yes, the economy has suffered some, but who is to say it would not have anyway, regardless? This poor man, who is a christian, and has done the best he could under very trying circumstances, including putting up with idiots from within---plastic (synthetic) Americans, has been blamed for everything including Noah's flood, no doubt, which all this time, we thought was an act of God. Stop your whining and get busy helping, or get
            the hell out of our way while we do what needs to be done. And while I'm on a roll here, if anyone out there in rag head land or anywhere else on the planet has a problem with Americans enjoying our free lifestyle, then move over, or get trampled by our dancing feet! And another thing, we Americans may be divided politically, but don't make the mistake of believing that gives you permission to take us on and think we won't ban together against you, because I'm betting on the same determined, strong spirited genes that still live in ALL Americans, passed on to us by those brave souls who had the courage to tell old king George to shove it, and set out for a land where they did not know what they would find, or how hostile it might be, to work together to form the greatest nation on the planet today---hats off to our ancestors! And thanks.

            • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 08/11/2008 4:45:29 PM


              You said it, he had been in office for NINE MONTHS! He never held A SINGLE BRIEFING on Bin Laden. He did not come back from vacation after being told by Condolezza Rice in August that Bin Laden was "Determined to Attack Within the US" and the "chatter" among terrorists under surveillance was at an all time high.

              Think about this. Bush does not come back from vacation after being advised on a terrorist attack. He did not come out of his vacation until almost a week after Katrina had sunk New Orleans. This last weekend, when Russia invaded a friendly state with a democratically elected government, Bush stayed in China cheering Team USA on. Do you see a pattern here?

              • Posted By: star3 @ 08/11/2008 10:00:49 PM

                Yeah, Caz, I see a pattern----a pattern of ignorance from the Dims. Where the he-double toothpicks was Clinton for EIGHT years? He wasn't ever briefed about the potential danger of this rag headed peice of pig crap?!? Shut up, me, why do I even bother. When the democrats picked a jackass for their symbol, the got THAT right!

                • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 08/12/2008 4:23:16 PM


                  Yeah, why do you bother? We chose a jackass for a symbol and you elected one for president.

                  • Posted By: star3 @ 08/12/2008 7:35:26 PM

                    Touche', Caz! Good come back! I'm proud of you! Still don't agree, but respect your candor. You know what they say about opinions.... However, regardless of various opinions, truth is what it is, and none of our opinions will change that.

            • Posted By: raddave @ 08/11/2008 4:55:21 AM

              Forget it star, these are the same people that try to blame Kennedy for the Bay of Pigs fiasco, even though he had only been in office for under three months.

          • Posted By: Phaedrus @ 08/11/2008 12:34:25 AM

            ...over and over and over and over...

            I do think Bush was clueless before 9/11. Clinton wasn't. Clinton did almost nothing as extremist Muslim terrorism got stronger and stronger. When you say "it happened on his watch" you sound like someone who blames the person who borrowed his car when the engine seizes up while the borrower drives it, ignoring completely the fact that he has never changed the oil.

            • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/11/2008 11:30:56 AM

              you are all forgetting that the taliban and saddam we're endorsed and put into power through the reagan-bush era. i don't think clinton is really at the heart of this, although he was shamefully complacent he was only following business as usual

        • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/11/2008 11:28:46 AM

          except terrorism world wide has increased over 7 fold since the start of the war on terrorism. seems its going as well as the war on drugs is. of course you wouldn't be concerned for all the lives lost overseas because our war on terrorism though

        • Posted By: raddave @ 08/11/2008 4:51:40 AM

          You seem to forget that there was 8 years between the first WTC bombings and 9/11, the two Al Qaeda attacks in America. Terrorists cells train and plan for years before attempting an attack.

  • Posted By: Jay1984 @ 08/12/2008 6:03:11 AM

    No mention of his role in the 9/11 plot to kill innocent people so he could go to war on Iraq. I suggest you all download a couple of documentries called Loose change 1st, 2nd editions and the final cut, just to see how 9/11 was an inside job, the goverment took the liberty in executing a self-made disaster. Which would explain why 9 of the 12 supposed hijackers are still alive and why Bush has spent 24 billion more than the recent 42 presidents.

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 08/12/2008 9:21:10 AM

      You're an idiot! Why don't you get back in your flying saucer and scoot your butt out of here.

      • Posted By: star3 @ 08/12/2008 6:39:57 PM

        Why do you think he is here--because his own planet didn't want him there.

      • Posted By: SPIRITED AWAY @ 08/12/2008 9:27:26 AM

        Hey Bass-love your reply. Finally something we agree on. :o)

        • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 08/12/2008 6:24:33 PM

          just don't let it happen again. I have a reputation to uphold, you know!

    • Posted By: SPIRITED AWAY @ 08/12/2008 9:06:49 AM

      Are you serious? OMG-you are deluded. What I find amusing is how GW is labeled a "retard" but at the same time he "masterminded" 9/11. lmao

      • Posted By: Jay1984 @ 08/12/2008 9:52:27 AM

        Behinf every retarded President there are intelligent men pulling his strings, all i can say is watch the Loose change documentries and decide for yourselves before mocking what you clearly have no idea about

        • Posted By: Skypoint @ 08/12/2008 12:56:44 PM

          And 'behinf' every poster like yourself are some serious drugs...

        • Posted By: SPIRITED AWAY @ 08/12/2008 10:09:33 AM

          It' s sad that you have bought into the "loose change" docs. I've seen them, they're full of lies.
          P.S. Are you Charlie Sheen? lmao

  • Posted By: garysgary @ 08/11/2008 10:35:25 AM

    I've got news for all of you...the Iraq war was not about protecting the U.S. from terrorism...it is about proecting Israel. The neo-cons (mostly jewish) Aipac and the rest of the Israel lobby got the war they wanted...take down Iraq. Iran would have been next if Iraq had not proved to be a failure....next would have been Syria. Feith and others can attempt to deflect accountability all they want...but...Bush, Cheney, the neocons and the Israel lobby started the Iraq war to protect Israel. Look who has benefited from the war...Israel has one less antagonist and the U.S. got the trillion dollar bill and tens of thousands of casualties. As far as I'm concerned, they are all traitors, Bush, Cheney, Feith et al. They put another country's interests ahead of U.S. interests. It was planned that way and the U.S. has suffered because of it.!

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/11/2008 11:09:30 AM

      How about that. The skinhead neo-nazi Dem. (or maybe just another mohammed) showed up. Is anti-semetic the same as racist....BTW...you are wrong in your assesment, but.....The interests of Israel ARE the interests of the U.S.A. Get over it.

      • Posted By: Iconoblaster @ 08/11/2008 12:21:45 PM

        How predictable! Whenever anyone criticizes Israel's policies, or the Neocon policies crafted to serve Israel's perceived interests, some lamebrain starts chanting "Anti-Semite! Anti-Semite!". Israel is an apartheid state whose OWN racist policies and intransigent, bellicose nationalism are the primary source of anti-Semitism in the Arab world... before the advent of Zionism, Muslims, Jews and Christians lived in the Levant together for centuries, with remarkably LITTLE friction, considering their religious differences. For the rest of the planet, the tragic experience of the Holocaust eliminated most real anti-Semitism by showing the hideous consequences of such fatuous racism... except for a few fringe kooks, who are probably incurable.

        • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/11/2008 12:52:29 PM

          This is regurgitated BS. peddled by leftwinged kooks whose conspiricy theories regarding Isreal run as rampant as the pages of the ''Protocols of the Elders of Zion''. To begin with ,it did not occur to the casual historical observer that the Jews were the victims of pogroms,mass-murders,and expulsions long before its Zionist movement birth in the 1880s,let alone its UN-sanctioned state founding in 1948. It is not known as ''diaspora''for nothing. Anti-semitic threads masking as ''legitimate criticism'' serve the purposes of my aformentioned ''kooks''. Hitlers ''world Jewish conspiricy''is neatly dovetailed with the American leftist belief that ''AIPAC''is a puppetmaster stringpuller controlling American foreign and economic policies. This of course,is moonshine. Not a shred of concerte irrefutable evidence exists that America ''went to Iraq for Israel''. This is Trutherism run rampant,and lends no credibility to this debate.[and makes no sense anyway,geopolitically speaking. If such a condition existed,Israel would be dealing from a position of strength.As it is,Israel was given the Second Intifada,and negotiated with Abbas for the eventual[now actual]return of Gaza to the PLO long before the Iraq War even began].
          Despite the fact that Iraq now is in no way ''a failure''indeed,commencing national elections here shortly with Sunni support, the withdrawl of the Sadrists,and the decimation of al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, Israel negotiates with the Syrians over the West Bank,and trades a mere handful of dead soldiers for live terrorists including wanton child-killers who are feted as heroes in downtown Damascus. What the radicals in America desire[International ANSWER,The International World Wokers Party,the communists,and the Cindy Sheehan ilk,is along the lines of what Irans Ahmedinjezad already proposes]:

          The expulsion of the Jews from even their organic national borders for resettlement in Asia,Europe or North America. A device pondered by the architect of the Final Solution,Adolf Eichmann and GESTAPO Chief Heinrich Mueller,who devised a means by which Jews would be ''resettled''to Madagasgar,an idea endorsed by Neville Chamberlains uncle,then an anti-Zionist proponant of ''Aryan''eugenics.
          Bush can be faulted in several areas. But the introduction of revisionist,indeed,madeup excuses as to why the Middle East acts in its fashion,are counterproductive and srve no purposes but those of the provacateur.

          • Posted By: wwew @ 08/11/2008 5:40:12 PM

            really left wing kooks? funny, when i hear the anti-israel stuff its usually from the far right, militia types, ron paul types, white power kkk types etc.

            in fact, the kkk marched way back in the early 2000s in valley forge national park against george bush and espoused the same sentiments you attribute to left wing kooks.

            • Posted By: SPIRITED AWAY @ 08/12/2008 6:35:53 PM

              A kook is a kook-left or right.

      • Posted By: garysgary @ 08/11/2008 11:29:47 AM

        If U.S. interests anf Israel's interests are the same...Why doesn't Israel have troops on the ground fighting along side of our troops?...why aren't Israeli troops fighting and dying like our troops? Tell me why our most important ally is not hepling with the hard work? Israel has not lost one soldier and not spent one shekle helping us in Iraq. Why? You're just stating what AIPAC wants you to say...U.S. interests are Israeli interests. You are not thinking for yourself. As far as being Anti-semetic...know this...I don't care what race of people live in Israel...they could be black, white, brown, or yellow. I don't care what religion they are in Israel...they could be jewish, muslim, buddhist....hindu for all I care. I just don't think that the U.S. should be starting wars to protect a country that is the size of Honduras (appox. 7.5 million) I don't think that a country the size of Honduras should have hundreds of nuclear waepons either! I've got news for you. An attack on Israel is NOT an attack on the U.S. as many of our politicians say! An attack on Nebraska IS an attack on the U.S. Just keep repeating what you hear...let me do the thinking!

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/11/2008 12:12:14 PM

          "An attack on Nebraska IS an attack on the U.S."

          Do you mean like the attacks on 9/11 ? The Twin Towers, Flight 93, or the Pentagon (not when Willy Ayers bombed it...that's another story). When those poor, underprivileged, and misguided freedom fighters, gave their souls to Allah?...OR.... as The One, so eloquently said....
          .............."We must also engage, however, in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness......Most often, though, it grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair."...........

          Those poor, poor guys. What they did was bad, but look how America ,has treated them. You can kinda understand................AND PEOPLE ARE VOTING FOR THIS FRAUD....amazing...

          BUT...you think no Jews died that day...Right??? Inside job....Bush and the Jews.

          NOBAMA!!!

          • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 08/11/2008 12:21:18 PM

            Holyroller is a Georgia Cracker Redneck G OLD Per and he loves Jews? Anyone believe that? Get Real Holy you're lying through your teeth!

            • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 08/11/2008 12:44:52 PM

              Holy?

              • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/11/2008 2:29:54 PM

                HEIL HUSSEIN...YES WE CAN............Naw you can't. BTW...has The One found his birth certificate yet. I think the clock is ticking,

                NOBAMA!!!

            • Posted By: garysgary @ 08/11/2008 12:55:41 PM

              Again, you're just repeating what the neocons and AIPAC want you to say. Of course 9/11 was an attack on the U.S. but Iraq didn't do it....Al-Queda did it and that is why the war in Afghanistan is justified, although it has been terribly mismanaged I'll say this again so you will understand......The war in Iraq is about protecting Israel!...not the U.S. The war in Iraq is NOT in U.S. interests.The war in Iraq is in Israeli intrests! We fight the war and pay for the war and die in the war, but it is entirely in Israeli interests....not ours! How can it be in our interests to spend a trillion dollars and thousands of lives on a war against a major oil-exporting country that never attacked us? How is that in our interest? Who's interest is it for?
              And you still haven't answered my question....Why doesn't Israel help with troops on the ground in Iraq. If Israel is our major ally in the middle east...our best friend...why don't they commit troops to help us? How does our best friend get a pass on the war on terror. Is the life of an Israeli soldier more valuable than the life of an American sildier? We gave them the largest most advanced military in the middle east...and they won't even help in Iraq!....I'll say this one more time...the war in Iraq is all about protecting Israel and Bush, Cheney, Leiberman, the neocons, Aipac and the complete Israel lobby are guilty of putting another countery's interests ahead of ours...in my book...they are traitors!

      • Posted By: amendment2man @ 08/11/2008 12:55:26 PM

        you tell em Roller!

      • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 08/11/2008 12:07:52 PM

        C'mon you Georgia Cracker, Certainly you know that the Skin Head, neo Nazis, readers of the Turner Diaries and Religous leaders that condemn everyone to hell but their flock, like Falwell, Dobson, Hagee and Robertson are Republicans and your hate party could not survive without them. Calling someone a skin head or nazi is paramount to calling them a Republican and just as offensive.

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