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The historical reasons why the West should intervene in Georgia.

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  • Posted By: CivilAid @ 01/05/2009 4:15:01 PM

    FrVladimir - You are a ready Russian zombie.

    "In Russia there is a small small town which name like a part of Georgia. Tsars Imeretinskie with many Georgians here ran, being rescueed from from Persians in 17 century." - Do you even understand what you wrote? There never where such people like - "Tsars Imeretinskie" in Georgia... It is just pathethic.

    "During Soviet time many republics complacently lived, using privileges and a prosperity, owing to Russia." - Well why the HELL DID YOU INVADE all those countries? MANY OF THEM NEVER WANTED TO BE PART OF THE OLD SHITTY USSR. LEARN ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_invasion_of_Georgia
    "We are always ready to come to the aid, but nobody would be desirable superfluous problems." - You mean you are always ready to invade your neibours? http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-152958
    " As if to the Georgian, living nowadays in Russia they tell in what poverty is nowadays Georgia therefore are ready to remain on earnings only in Russia, accepting thus the Russian citizenship." - meh, come on. Have you been to Georgia? And if you really heared such a thing from a Georgian, you know why he told you that? This is the only way you Russians can *** off, because your brains are already ready for this opinion. "Oh yess, everythingz bad in Georgia and Ukraine... " - There are problem,s... and there would have been far less of them if you did not invade Georgia every few years (1921;1993;1994;2008)

    Nobody wishes to be involved in the next war... - It does not matter? What matters is do those criminals in Kremlin want that or not.

  • Posted By: FrVladimir @ 10/31/2008 4:20:17 PM

    In Russia there is a small small town which name like a part of Georgia. Tsars Imeretinskie with many Georgians here ran, being rescueed from from Persians in 17 century. During Soviet time many republics complacently lived, using privileges and a prosperity, owing to Russia. And in the Russia at this time there was a poverty, a shame, persecution on believers. And when Soviet Union, thank God, has collapsed, the population of the Russian Federation began to find what it has been deprived all the decade long godless authority. And consequently, when today speak, that Russia are necessary former republics of the country of Soviet - deep error. We are always ready to come to the aid, but nobody would be desirable superfluous problems. As if to the Georgian, living nowadays in Russia they tell in what poverty is nowadays Georgia therefore are ready to remain on earnings only in Russia, accepting thus the Russian citizenship. Nobody wishes to be involved in the next war...

  • Posted By: superglue @ 08/11/2008 6:54:59 PM

    What s the parrallel between the unprovoked invasion of Iraq and the invasion of Georgia? Might is right! George W Bush has taught the world a salutary lesson: political power can only be enforced by miltary power. Russia unfortunately is not a slow learner. Stop the hypocrisy: let one who doesn't sin throws the first stone.

    • Posted By: onepoker @ 08/13/2008 10:55:35 AM

      The world has known this long before Bush was even born. Don't blame Bush for Russians acting like Russians.

      • Posted By: Ivan_Russian @ 08/14/2008 2:46:37 AM

        Russians are defending their borders and their citizens from georgian aggression!
        But what the interest has USA in Georgia? In some day appears an US-"brother" nation??? (ex-soviet)
        Its just a huge politics game!
        Who of you (American or European) personnally know any georgian??? Has any US-people relatives in Georgia? I guess not!

        So you think the way your TV prescribes to think! Try to do it by yourself!

        • Posted By: Just Little O' Me @ 10/30/2008 2:39:10 AM

          Some may not know South Osetia is a part of Georgia that wanted independence, yet it's not declared as independent by everyone.

          I won't say who I agree with here, but Russia would need an excuse, due to Georgia's size.
          Would you mess with anyone near Russia being as small as Georgia, knowing where Russia stands in it's beliefs about South Osetia's independance, for no reason? I don't think so...unless you were paid to take the blame or paid to do it. OR...IT HAPPENED A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY... BBC reports Russia says, Georgia struck first. Georgia says, they organized after recieving reports that Russia entered the tunnel headed to Georgia into South Osetia prior.

          Motives for Georgia? I see none unless they were proving who they are with. With that they could have just as easily said, I'm with you!

          Motive(s)? for Russia: I've got a few considering I thought Russia would do something like this soon after I read the Russia owned Citco was going to allow some militant insurgents have and operate refineries on their borders. Increasing their boarders means they don't really have do anything to their boarder. ...Just use someone else's boarder.

          I've also read somewhere that Russia was to built a plant IN IRAN ON THE BLACK SEA. The Mistake: Iran is not on the Black Sea. South Osetia is not on the Black Sea either. Georgia is!

          Now Russia is stating they will defend their citizens wherever they are... That's a pretty harsh statement to all countries having Russian citizens there...DON'T YOU THINK? Sound familiar? (Drug induced?)

          If Russia takes over Georgia it can allow those bad militant insurgents to do two things without affecting Russia's actual boarders. Russia wants Georgia then they can open those refineries and allow those bad militant insurgents operate them like they said they'd do with Iran. Maybe Russia really don't want militant insurgents on their boarders, yet they have to keep their word huh!

          Third Motive: Georgia is the only target stopping them from making that highway (IRAN) complete to Russia. All that stands in their way after Georgia is Armenia, or Azerbaijan (they know if the try Azerbaijan the US will get involved). Maybe they'll make something else happen, but I bet they bank on Armenia allowing them through their boarders. After all, Armenia has seen what happened to Georgia. (Just another form of terror).

          • Posted By: Just Little O' Me @ 10/30/2008 2:47:19 AM

            Those two posts are reversed.
            Look at a Middle East Map if you haven't. I might shed some light on what's going on for some of you.

        • Posted By: Just Little O' Me @ 10/30/2008 2:40:25 AM

          Armenia is already allies with Iran, but wants to be friends with USA and is not allies with USSR. Armenia is all Russia and Iran need to complete that highway called IRAN after a Georgia taken-over.
          Unfortunately, for Armenia they have signed some papers with Iran that they may be sorry for in the near future. If they contact the pentagon they better do more than just report it to us. If they want our help they need to ask for it. (South Osetia didn't ask, they only reported it.) And we had better know what they signed with Iran first.

          It's now quite clear at least to me...why Russia was so invested in trying to get Turkey and Armenia to make amends with each other so they would open their boarders to each other. It would make it easier for Russia or Iran to get to Turkey since Armenia is already allies with Iran.

          Needless to say, Turkey is our ally and is protecting it's boarders and allowing us to say in the Black Sea. Azerbaijan is our ally as well. Georgia is NATO involved. I pity them all being so close to boarders of Iran and Iraq while Russia is quietly knocking at their side door.

  • Posted By: MrBigZig @ 08/14/2008 12:15:44 PM

    How is the gratuitous US invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq any different than the Russian invasion of Georgia? What giives the US the right to militarily seek regime change and denies the same right to Russia? With the US supporting the unilateral independence of Kosovo, why shouldn't Russia suppport the unilateral independence of South Ossetia? The US seems to have a philosophgy that gives it the right to do what it wants, where it wants, when it wants while denying other nations the same prerogative. I think this is a formula for long range trouble.

    • Posted By: Just Little O' Me @ 10/30/2008 2:19:13 AM

      Some may not know South Osetia is a part of Georgia that wanted independence, yet it's not declared as independent by everyone.

      Mr. Wiz..As far as us getting involved...Kuwait asked for our assistance when Iraq attacked them. Afghanistan asked for us, because they were being starved by the thieves. South Osetia contacted us, but did not ask for assistance. Georgia may have asked.. I know they helped us in Iraq along with Turkey.

      I won't say who I agree with here, but Russia would need an excuse, due to Georgia's size.
      Would you mess with anyone near Russia being as small as Georgia, knowing where Russia stance in it's beliefs about South Osetia's independance, for no reason? I don't think so. You'd have to be paid to take the blame or paid to do the job. OR...IT HAPPENED A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY...

      BBC reports Russia says, Georgia struck first. Georgia says, they organized after recieving reports that Russia entered the tunnel headed to Georgia into South Osetia prior. We may never know.

      Motives for Georgia? I see none unless they were proving who they are with. With that they could have just as easily said, I'm with you! Motive(s)? for Russia: I've got a few considering I thought Russia would do something like this soon after I read the Russia owned Citco was going to allow some militant insurgents have and operate refineries on their borders. Increasing their boarders means they don't really have do anything to their boarder. Just use someone else's boarder. I've also read somewhere that Russia was to built a plant IN IRAN ON THE BLACK SEA. The Mistake: Iran is not on the Black Sea. South Osetia is not on the Black Sea either. Georgia is! Now Russia is stating they will defend their citizens wherever they are... That's a pretty harsh statement to make to all countries having Russian citizens there DON'T YOU THINK? Sound familiar? (Drug induced?)

      • Posted By: Just Little O' Me @ 10/30/2008 2:26:07 AM

        If Russia takes over Georgia it can allow those bad militant insurgents to do two things without affecting Russia's actual boarders. Russia wants Georgia then they can open those refineries and allow those bad militant insurgents operate them like they said they'd do with Iran. Maybe Russia really don't want militant insurgents on their boarders, yet they have to keep their word huh!

        Third Motive: Georgia is the only target stopping them from making that highway (IRAN) complete to Russia. All that stands in their way after Georgia is Armenia, or Azerbaijan (they know if the try Azerbaijan the US will get involved). Maybe they'll make something else happen, but I bet they bank on Armenia allowing them through their boarders. After all, Armenia has seen what happened to Georgia. (Just another form of terror).

        Armenia is already allies with Iran, but wants to be friends with USA and is not allies with USSR. Armenia is all Russia and Iran need to complete that highway called IRAN after a Georgia taken-over.
        Unfortunately, for Armenia they have signed some papers with Iran that they may be sorry for in the near future. If they contact the pentagon they better do more than just report it to us. If they want our help they need to ask for it. (South Osetia didn't ask, they only reported it.) And we had better know what they signed with Iran first.

        It's now quite clear at least to me...why Russia was so invested in trying to get Turkey and Armenia to make amends with each other so they would open their boarders to each other. It would make it easier for Russia or Iran to get to Turkey since Armenia is already allies with Iran.

        Needless to say, Turkey is our ally and is protecting it's boarders and allowing us to say in the Black Sea. Azerbaijan is our ally as well. Georgia is NATO involved. I pity them all being so close to boarders of Iran and Iraq while Russia is quietly knocking at their side door.

      • Posted By: Just Little O' Me @ 10/30/2008 2:23:55 AM

        If Russia takes over Georgia it can allow those bad militant insurgents to do two things without affecting Russia's actual boarders. Russia wants Georgia then they can open those refineries and allow those bad militant insurgents operate them like they said they'd do with Iran. Maybe Russia really don't want militant insurgents on their boarders, yet they have to keep their word huh!

        Third Motive: Georgia is the only target stopping them from making that highway (IRAN) complete to Russia. All that stands in their way after Georgia is Armenia, or Azerbaijan (they know if the try Azerbaijan the US will get involved). Maybe they'll make something else happen, but I bet they bank on Armenia allowing them through their boarders. After all, Armenia has seen what happened to Georgia. (Just another form of terror).

        Armenia is already allies with Iran, but wants to be friends with USA and is not allies with USSR. Armenia is all Russia and Iran need to complete that highway called IRAN after a Georgia taken-over.
        Unfortunately, for Armenia they have signed some papers with Iran that they may be sorry for in the near future. If they contact the pentagon they better do more than just report it to us. If they want our help they need to ask for it. (South Osetia didn't ask, they only reported it.) And we had better know what they signed with Iran first.

        It's now quite clear at least to me...why Russia was so invested in trying to get Turkey and Armenia to make amends with each other so they would open their boarders to each other. It would make it easier for Russia or Iran to get to Turkey since Armenia is already allies with Iran.

        Needless to say, Turkey is our ally and is protecting it's boarders and allowing us to say in the Black Sea. Azerbaijan is our ally as well. Georgia is NATO involved. I pity them all being so close to boarders of Iran and Iraq while Russia is quietly knocking at their side door.

  • Posted By: nallcando @ 08/11/2008 7:28:57 PM

    Huh excuse me Bush does not have the right to send troops in to help with out Congress giving their approval... Why does this concern us.. This is a dispute between neighbors...Where are we going to get the Military personal, our armies are stretched thin...We do not have the high road here, not when the Bush Administration attacked the Country of Iraq on flimsy evidence..and we are still fighting in Afghanistan! You sir are nuts!

    • Posted By: Just Little O' Me @ 10/30/2008 1:38:55 AM

      Armenia is all Russia and Iran need to complete that highway called IRAN after a Georgia taken-over. Unfortunately, for Armenia they have signed some papers with Iran that they may be sorry for in the near future. If they contact the pentagon they better do more than just report it to us. If they want our help they need to ask for it. (South Osetia didn't ask, they only reported.) We had better know what they signed with Iran first.

      It's now quite clear, at least to me why Russia was so invested in trying to get Turkey and Armenia to make amends with each other so they would open their boarders to each other. It would make it easier for Russia or Iran to get to Turkey since Armenia is already allies with Iran. Needless to say, Turkey is our ally and is protecting it's boarders and allowing us to say in the Black Sea. Azerbaijan is our ally as well. Georgia is NATO involved. I pity them all being so close to boarders of Iran and Iraq while Russia is quietly knocking at their side door.

  • Posted By: edspan @ 08/13/2008 12:47:43 AM

    onepoker: What about China? They invaded Mongolia. Are you going to send covert operations to restore democracy while buying Chinese made products? You're so smart!

    • Posted By: wooddoo @ 09/02/2008 1:01:32 PM

      Are you kidding? China invaded Mongolia? The Mongols invaded the the Song dynasty in China which excelled in art and literature and dealt a heavy blow to the progress of the Chinese civilization. The Chinese managed to push them back nearly a century later. Stop deceiving naive westerners with your distorted facts.

    • Posted By: onepoker @ 08/13/2008 10:16:05 AM

      already have!

      • Posted By: edspan @ 08/13/2008 11:25:58 PM

        I know!. Pretty sure you have you're house full of Chinese products.

  • Posted By: Fortuneteller @ 08/28/2008 6:15:22 AM

    Appeasement :My father ,rest his soul,a WW2 veteran of France and Germany once told me to prepare for war on a massive scale the moment you hear any Politician spew out that word.

  • Posted By: Fortuneteller @ 08/28/2008 6:12:48 AM

    Appeasement :My father ,rest his soul,a WW2 veteran of France and Germany once told me to prepare for war on a massive scale the moment you hear any Politician spew out that word.

  • Posted By: Emilda @ 08/25/2008 3:43:20 PM

    There is an interesting suggestion from Steve Levine. The Russians have a big weakness. The West should keep in mind Russia's Achilles Heel while dealing with Putin and Medvedev. Levine knows this area, having covered wars in Chechnya, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Tajikistan as well as the Soviet-Afghan war: http://oilandglory.com/2008/08/russias-achilles-heel.html

  • Posted By: shewantsnorevenge @ 08/12/2008 5:36:49 PM

    1) Read the storyline and note the month and year of a video game (Ghost Recon by Tom Clancy - 2001)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Clancy's_Ghost_Recon
    Ghost Recon begins in August 2008, with civil unrest in Russia. Ultra-nationalists have seized power in Russia, with plans to rebuild the government. Their first step is clandestine support of rebel factions in Georgia and the Baltic States. This is where the Ghosts come in: to silence the invasion. Armed with some of the most advanced weaponry in the world, the soldiers of the Ghost Recon force are covertly inserted into area of operations and given specific missions to curtail the rebel actions and overthrow their benefactors

    2) Read this: http://governmentdirt.com/war_in_the_caucasus_will_change_the_world_order

    • Posted By: onepoker @ 08/13/2008 12:28:05 AM

      I was thinking the exact same thing. Damn that Tom Clancy is a smart guy maybe we should seek out his opinion on this matter.

      • Posted By: streetwise @ 08/22/2008 12:58:18 PM

        Maybe Sakashvili played a bit too much with that game ?

  • Posted By: Dr Rick @ 08/12/2008 6:30:03 PM

    How dare the Russians invade a country under false pretenses? Who does Putin think he is; George Bush?

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 08/22/2008 12:49:58 PM

      No, he doesn't . And the pretenses" were not falses...

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 08/22/2008 12:47:55 PM

      No, he don't . And the "pretensesQ" were not falses...

  • Posted By: TGTTEO @ 08/21/2008 4:12:42 AM

    A US lead war with Russia is most unlikely but a Isreal lead war with Iran is on the card. A McCain presidency would not let Isreal attack Iran just as Bush had refused to give the OK, this is because McCain wants to do it himself. A Obama presidency would just let Isreal do the dirty job for him. Since the defeat of the US military in the Korean and Vietnam wars, the US would not go to war if the US cannot win. And now with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan dragging on with no end in sight, the US military certainly would not want to go to another war especially against an enemy that is able to hit back.

  • Posted By: TGTTEO @ 08/21/2008 3:49:49 AM

    It is not a question of APPEASEMENT. It is a question of PROVOCATION. Mikheil Saakashvili provokes Russia to attack Georgia to draw the US into a war with Russia. So the US should focus on punishing Mikheil Saakashvili for his rash and selffish act of attacking the Russian peace keeping forces with the hope of dragging the US into his quarrel with the Russians. To talk of appeasement is barking up the wrong tree.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 08/17/2008 3:18:19 PM

    Would a new Russian President without a Prime Minister Putin in the background invaded Georgia this soon. Emboldened by his successful finesse of a continuation in power despite the Russian Constitution, Putin can look for support no further than the candidacy of Hillary Clinton and her finessing the 22nd Amendment of the United States Constitution. Cognizant of the candidacy of Hillary Clinton, Putin ignored the Russian Constitution on term limits and still stays in power as Prime Minister. Putin changed the Russian Constitution to perpetuate his control over Russia. Similarly, Hillary Clinton ignored the 22nd Amendment to our Constitution that restricts the President to two terms. Because Bill Clinton is not divorced from his wife, Hillary???s election would effectively give Bill Clinton a third term in office. In almost all states, there is a legal fiction that spouses are viewed as one or as a single person. You have joint custody over children and there is only one marital estate that is divided up at divorce. One spouse is liable for the debts of another spouse accrued during marriage. Spouses are liable for the negligence and torts of another spouse such as in car accidents. Spouses stand in the shoes of another spouse and have the highest priority in making medical decisions where there is no health care power of attorney or expressed preference by the patient. Even at the federal level in tax and estate law, bankruptcy law, immigration law and criminal law there are laws, regulations and public policy considerations to view spouses as the same or nearly the same. You have joint bankruptcy, joint tax returns, spousal privilege in criminal cases. Spouses are given highest priority in immigration matters. While there are exceptions under federal law with provisions for separate tax returns, exemptions and separate bankruptcy filing the presumption is that spouses usually file jointly in tax and bankruptcy cases. Courts in many jurisdictions also permit married attorneys to represent opposing clients and supposedly erect firewalls if all parties agree. However, approval by all parties underscores the principle that spouses are viewed as a whole.
    On the other hand, parents and adult children are view as separate under state and federal law. A parent is not liable for the debts or torts or wrongful actions of an adult child. A child is considered emancipated upon marriage and considered an adult. There is no parent-child privilege that can be invoked by either party in criminal law either at the state or federal level.
    So mere relationship with a former two-term President does not answer question. There is historical precedent for father and son presidencies with our second President John Adams and sixth president John Quincy Adams and Bush 41 and 43. The type of relationship seems to matter under the concept of legal fiction in both state and federal law as it applies to spouses.

    • Posted By: Ivan_Russian @ 08/19/2008 2:01:13 AM


      ???Putin changed the Russian Constitution to perpetuate his control over Russia?????? ??? what??? ??? our constitution was NOT changed at all??? you are bad informed??? And more than 80% agreed with Putin??? there is no objections against former president to be a prime minister???

      • Posted By: Braes @ 08/20/2008 9:16:51 AM

        As a republicon-man he is just spewing wild senseless stuff he heard at 3am on talk radio.

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 08/20/2008 1:28:16 AM

    For great news on this matter which is not brought to you by the pentagon, go to www.therealnews.com

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 08/19/2008 2:12:16 AM

    Putin had enough support in the Duma to change the constitution and serve another term as president, but his main contribution to Russia has been enourmous growth and stability. He chose to keep the constitution to preserve stability. As for the Rocket Shield, US has been lying to the whole world for a long time and now that they go accept all of Polands demands over night and want to start talks with Ukraine, their aggressive intentions to use the shield against has been proven. Putin has said this for over a year, the US calling him paranois. Dont trust US, get the US army out of Europe and Eurasia now!

  • Posted By: lovejusticepeace @ 08/19/2008 12:40:39 PM

    SAAKASHVILLIAN !

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 08/17/2008 6:57:33 PM

    Is it Russian aggression or Russian response?
    The US military build up of its anti-Russian government in Georgia got horrbile consequences for the Osetians. With the rocket shield giving US first strike capabilities Russia needs to create another deterent, increasing its nuclear arsenal. Can we blame them? If I was in the Russian government I would re-place nukes on Cuba again, we are cornering Russia and they need a to create some balance as the United States are marching towards their borders

    • Posted By: OneManArmy @ 08/18/2008 12:22:25 PM

      The US is using terrorism as an excuse for the rocket shield, but they can't even protect their own soil. The terrorists are after the US only, not democracy as the Bush administration would like you to believe. The only reason why the terrorists attacked some other democratic/industrialized countries is because they supported the US after 9/11. Terrorism has been the US's war from day one. They were specifically targeted. There are reasons why they were attacked. Don't you think if the terrorists wanted to attack other countries at the same time on 9/11, they could've/would've? Having said all of this, I do not condone the attack, otherwise I'd be a hypocrite like the US, let alone wrong.

      • Posted By: Ivan_Russian @ 08/19/2008 2:13:03 AM

        Of course USA is against terrorism... but UsA pumps fears of any threats only to make a business...
        (did you see several documentary films like a "ZeitGeist" or "Farengheit 911"?) in spite of several abstract reflections there are lots of interestinf facts about 911 and even attempts to draw a parallel with US-planned actions (or inactions)... pretty interesting films...)

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 08/17/2008 3:17:13 PM

    So mere relationship with a former two-term President does not answer question. There is historical precedent for father and son presidencies with our second President John Adams and sixth president John Quincy Adams and Bush 41 and 43. The type of relationship seems to matter under the concept of legal fiction in both state and federal law as it applies to spouses. Constitutionally one could argue that Hillary and Bill could be considered the same and hence Bill Clinton could be considered under the legal fiction as serving a third term in a Hillary Clinton Presidency. Our Constitution is relatively brief and the writers of 22nd Amendment in 1949 also had to be brief and did not envision or address every potential scenario. Because they did not exclude spouses does not imply that they meant to include spouses as being eligible to serve after one spouse has served two terms. When this amendment was passed in 1949, the lack of women in the Senate, House, and judiciary probably meant that consideration of spouses was not even on their radar at that time. Democrats have elliptically alluded to this Constitutional problem as saying it might be difficult with Bill around in a future presidency of Hillary Clinton. Yes it would be difficult for our Constitution. It is also difficult now to criticize Putin and his legitimacy because we have not been faithful to our Constitution thanks to the Democrats. The answer does have implications beyond our border because other countries look to the United States as a model of democracy or standard in which to emulate. The issue of term limits resonates thoughout the world from Zimbawe to Russia. Foreign countries also may not understand the nuances of our elections and Constitutional law and things that may be clear to us may not be so clear to foreign electorates and leaders.

    • Posted By: OneManArmy @ 08/17/2008 5:07:02 PM

      There is that good old American arrogance again. "...because other countries look to the United States as a model of democracy or standard in which to emulate.", are you serious? I'm pretty sure it is the most hated country in the world, and not because of jealousy either. "...and things that may be clear to us may not be so clear to foreign electorates and leaders.", if that was the case, don't you think you guys would of had everything figured out?

      • Posted By: Ivan_Russian @ 08/19/2008 1:55:15 AM

        Agreed, USA is pretty attractive country for living... but that doesn`t mean that there is the same in any other US-satelite country... The rules of this game differs in "the other" countries... UsA try to dominate everywhere in the world, and has in mind that any country unlike UsA is inferior...

  • Posted By: Tournesol @ 08/17/2008 4:58:38 PM

    It is difficult to understand the critics of Russia who fail to establish the connection between the West's support for the independence of Kosovo and the Russian intervention in Georgia. In 1999 NATO intervened in a strikingly similar, though much more brutal way, bombing Serbian army and civilian targets for 3 months in order to save the Albanian rebellion. The Serbian army and police had practically destroyed the Albanian guerilla whose leaders are now indicted for war crimes in the Hague, but after heavy bombing they eventually had to withdraw from Kosovo. Like Russia today, NATO paid no respect to Serbian sovereignty and used the same humanitarian reasons to justify it's action.

    Supporting Kosovo's independence in February this year, western politicians kept repeating that Kosovo is a unique case that will not be used as a precedent but failed to explain what exactly makes it so unique and who will make sure it is not used as a model by any of the hundreds of ethnic disputes around the world. In one thing one must agree with Russian diplomats: after invading Serbia and Iraq, the US and Britain have little credibility left to reproach Russia for doing the same. That is of little comfort to the small countries like Georgia or Serbia, but one should expect from commentators to show some more respect to common sense.

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