Five Financial Costs of American Obesity

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  • Posted By: skinnyminny2 @ 08/18/2008 9:07:36 AM

    I agree with Mark Towers.....I almost guarantee that if one eats mostly vegetables, lean protein, leafy greens, little fat and no processed sugar they are not going to be overweight. Heck, it'd be a struggle to eat enough to maintain! Some members of my own family are ehavy because of their diet and lack of activity. I, as a distance running near-vegan (no animal products except fish) manage 115 lb at 5'8". And I eat often, am rarely deprived.

  • Posted By: sjksing @ 08/15/2008 11:03:14 PM

    This is directed at no one in particular, just my own observations from a person that is being deemed by society as obese: WARNING... IF YOU ARE NOT FAT, THIS MAY NOT MAKE SENSE TO YOU. (Come on, lighten up, that was some sarcasm)

    I was reading a study a couple months ago about how 8 out of 10 woman would rather die than be overweight. Does anyone else find that alarming?! I find it sad. Well, sad, silly, and illogical. How obsessed is this country? Are we really that self centered? Because that is what I was thinking when I first read it.

    After reading it, though, it got me thinking. The one thing I find disturbing about all of this is that being "overweight" or obese is the biggest form of acceptable discrimination practiced in our society today. I can not argue with scientific fact, so I won't. I understand the uses of the study and why they choose to report it, but there is a bigger picture here. Why is is that you can no longer discriminate on race, color, creed, gender, abilities, etc but if I am walking down the street minding my own business there are many people that feel the need to comment on me or the fact that I have a weight issue. Why is that anyone else's business but mine. I get it. I am not "perfect". What is ideal? There are reasons why we are all different. That includes, again, race, color, gender, creed, and yes size. So, please understand, the next time you see someone that is "overweight", obese, or just not up to your individual standards, please keep you comments to yourself. I do enough judging of myself everyday. I am not ignorant. I do understand why and how I got this way. No, I don't blame society or any other reason. I take responsibilty for it, but it is not your place nor your right to point it out to me. Every day is a struggle and it is people that have never had to endure that struggle that have no clue what is it like. For those who have been there, i find it funny how you are so easily changed in your mind set when you become an "after". All of a sudden they seem to get a mentality of "well I did it, they can too. And, if they don't they are just lazy." Just remember you got take all the time you wanted to change your size. It didn't happen overnight for your I'm sure and it will not for me either. How quickly you seem to change your stripes to become just as judgemental.

    After all of this, if you take away one thing from this... just stop. Stop being so mean. Start by helping. Help a friend become more active. Help a friend to make smarter choices, but only if they ask or show an interest. Stop assuming you know better and are better than people that are "overweight" and obese. After all, this is all subjective. We could keep arguing about this until the end of time. Bottom line is that we as a nation need to become healthier, but being rude and nasty about it will only make things worse. Stop treating us like we have the plague.

    • Posted By: alxcaphonh @ 08/16/2008 11:38:16 PM

      "Why is is that you can no longer discriminate on race, color, creed, gender, abilities, etc"
      Have you not notice a similarity in the examples you've listed? PEOPLE CAN'T CHANGE WHAT YOU'VE LISTED. That is why you don't discriminate. Jesus fukking christ. Skip a goddamn meal every once and awhile and you won't be discriminated against, but the black guy can't become white. Just like the butch lesbian can't like the ***

      • Posted By: sjksing @ 08/17/2008 12:23:25 PM

        I see your point. I have not looked at it that way, but why so much anger? Do you truly feel like you are superior? I am not a person who believes in excuses. They are a waste of time and effort. But, if you had ever been in this position, you would know it is a little more scientific than "skipping a meal" once in a while. I have heard it all... "back away from the cookie", "put down the fork", "get off your ass and stop being so lazy"... Come on man, you have t o be a little more original next time. When I figure out what works for me, then I will do it. Maybe it is excess stress from taking care of my two children under two. Or, maybe it is the fact that I and my husband are fulltime students, or maybe the fact that after I get out of class and taking care of my children I have a fulltime job to go to... and so on. They are not excuses, just fact. I, as posted in the earlier message, understand how I got this way and the stresses in my life that have attributed to it, But, for me, it is not going to happen overnight. No one can healthily lose it that way. So, maybe your should try to harness your anger and focus it into other directions before it makes you fat like me,,, just a thought. :)

        • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/18/2008 8:49:47 AM

          I'm sorry, but those are excuses. They may be fact but they're still excuses. I did the same thing you are doing--full time student, full time job (and a part-time one on Saturdays), and caring for my nephew and 2 nieces. Actually, that made me less prone to overeating b/c I was so busy all the time. Also, I wanted to make sure they were eating healthy and getting the nutrients their growing bodies needed, so I made healthful things. That's not to say we didn't have the occasional fishstick or mac n cheese night, but I was mindful of things. Eating healthier gives you more energy to take on the myriad of responsibilities you have.
          Of course, that's not to say that people should look at you with disgust or be rude. That's just ill-mannered and inexcusable.

    • Posted By: fatboy @ 08/15/2008 11:43:06 PM

      almost the best post i have ever read

      thank you and good luck

      • Posted By: wake up @ 08/16/2008 12:54:41 AM

        Other nations are not obese!. Please look around in Asia, Europe and India and everywere else. It is because of a different lifestile. In the U.S anything goes. We interpret that with "freedom" while it is lack of discipline in 99% of the cases. It definately doesn't help the American image.

    • Posted By: kerrilynnaz @ 08/15/2008 11:17:49 PM

      sjksing *BRAVO**BRAVO**BRAVO* OMG, you are so right! Thank you for saying that with such poise and dignity! We can all learn from your attitude, so I hope others will be inspired, learn and play it forward!! Nobody likes the playground bully.

      • Posted By: sjksing @ 08/15/2008 11:26:07 PM

        Thank you! I appreciate you kind words. That is just how I feel... :)

  • Posted By: Mark Towers @ 08/18/2008 2:48:48 AM

    It seems to me that anyone can change their weight, if the proper steps are taken. I have heard the genetic reason a number of times but this just tells me that these people need to be especially careful of what they eat and the amount of exercise they get. As far as stress and lifestyle contributing to some ones weight problem, if you have enough time to over eat to an obese level you have enough time to change your diet. Maybe even eat less, to give more time to your children or what not.

  • Posted By: Margogo @ 08/18/2008 12:13:39 AM

    I lost 25lbs in one year just by not drinking alcohol. I went from 145lbs to 120lbs and I feel so much better. At 5'4'' I am a healthy weight again, but I hope to lose another 5 or ten thrugh additional exercise and diet.

  • Posted By: fatboy @ 08/15/2008 8:23:41 PM

    as a male who should weigh 200, and is 280, get bent. There are many reasons to be overweight, stress, medical conditions, and the overall liking of good food. The only thing this story accomplishes is to reiterate that all fat people suck. Well thanks, its not like we dont know how the whole world feels allready. Why dont we talk about something that matters to the world, not what matters to a bunch of ego maniacs who happen to be there ideal size. just ask them

    • Posted By: Master Debater @ 08/16/2008 1:02:07 PM

      Get bent, haha. You can't even bend over to look at your toes, haha. Go roll down a hill, haha.

    • Posted By: abbychloe @ 08/15/2008 8:30:49 PM

      You think that people at their "goal" weight are ego maniacs? I am at my goal weight and yes, I enjoy wearing fashionable clothes and looking nice, BUT I'm most happy to set an example for my two young children. I want to live the longest, most healthy life I can and it's a proven fact that thinness is one of the keys to longevity. I'VE BEEN FAT AND I HATED IT; HOWEVER, I DIDN'T FEEL THAT ALL FAT PEOPLE SUCK. I feel sorry for overweight people BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE AND I KNOW HOW SAD I WAS. Quit feeling sorry for yourself and either accept yourself for who you are or DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. LIFE'S TOO SHORT TO BE UNHAPPY.

      • Posted By: fatboy @ 08/15/2008 9:34:54 PM

        now i feel sorry for myself, shame on me.
        once again a opinon on whos happy and whos not.
        and thanks for feeling sorry for me. I didnt even know i was sad.
        now unless you actually have a point other than pointing out how you not a ego maniac, like everything you said.
        go away

        • Posted By: last4one @ 08/15/2008 11:19:41 PM

          I'd be ashamed of myself if I was a fat boy too.

          • Posted By: fatboy @ 08/15/2008 11:39:13 PM

            to bad listening to yourself doesnt work, it should.
            but obviously only apperance matters, otherwise your total lack of compasion would be enough.

  • Posted By: noslugs @ 08/16/2008 3:22:59 AM

    I find this all amusing???.???fat activists,??? fat acceptance, obesity normalization. Where does it end? Many replies herein want us average size people to accept others??? girth and shame us for being critical of excess. When I pay for an airline seat, I want the seat to myself, not some stranger???s hangover. Why is it wrong for us to expect a seat to ourselves? If you chose to be supersized, which is beyond what society designs its furniture for, and if you require special accommodations, than you rightfully so should pay more.

    Our obesity epidemic costs society significantly (lost work hours, preventable health care costs, diabetes, etc). Excessive weight correlates to lower quality of life when formerly normal activities become challenges (walking up stairs, etc). I like to eat and I eat a lot but I know its consequences. Obesity is mostly a lifestyle choice so why should the ???normal frame size??? have to make allowances for those who have chosen to be oversized? In nature there is natural selection, humans accommodate the bell curve fringes and equalize health costs with healthy people subsidizing those on a voluntary self destructive overweight path. Obesity is a hand to mouth problem.

    My employer requires me to work out three days a week (45 minutes to burn 300 calories minimum). I double that while working a 60 hour week. I need the exercise to balance my mal aligned work hours. I still make time for cooking. I have a hard time finding good ingredients since most American mass produced food items are designed for convenience so they come with many nutritional drawbacks. Americans do not realize their mega-food-center offerings are not particularly good for them. There is a surprisingly pervasive lack of food knowledge throughout society. Americans are not known to be the most astute consumers. I do not blame the companies, I blame the consumers. Marketing is designed to move products, consumers have to be informed. If you buy bad food, you eat bad food.

    I do not have a TV nor do I want one. If you want to sit on the couch and watch TV, I recommend the National Geo or Discovery Channel one hour program, The Science of Obesity, to better understand how weight affects your inner workings. If it motivates you to get off the couch, that is good. Get off the couch and see the world around you instead of trying to make others accept your irregular size. (Today, I hiked a 12,000 hill to see the sunrise and was still in my office by 930AM.) Obese people miss out on many things.

  • Posted By: newsisfun @ 08/16/2008 1:50:56 AM

    You missed an obvious one: food. It's no secret that the cost of food has been rising at a noticeable rate. And if you eat more than normal, that can certainly affect the budget.

  • Posted By: DefiantEditor @ 08/16/2008 1:30:43 AM

    As European nations adopt a more Western diet, overweight people are becoming more common abroad as well. Even the French, known for their slim women, are experiencing a steady increase in weight. The combination of lack of physical activity and the typical American diet is often cited as a reason. The recent study which found that thin people are often just as prone to health issues as many who are overweight may indicate there are, heretofore, unknown factors, such as stress and genetics, that are causing ill health in many people. Perhaps those who are thin but suffer from diabetes, high cholesterol and high blood pressure should be studied more closely to determine what other factors may cause these problems often attributed to the overweight. Thin people are not always healthy, heavy people are not always ill.

  • Posted By: sgandersen @ 08/15/2008 4:14:31 PM

    Two of the largest purveyors of childhood obesity, Coca-Cola and McDonalds. try to improve their image by sponsoring the Olympics. The International Olympic Committee, in turn, is eerily silent about children-related scandals, such as He Kexin being too young to compete on the Chinese woman's gymnastics team. Nasty vicious circle.

    • Posted By: wake up @ 08/16/2008 1:14:24 AM

      There is Coca Cola and McDonalds all over the world. Why isn't the rest of the world obese? Do we have any choices on what passes betwen our lips? Or is it forced down by some evel forces?

    • Posted By: last4one @ 08/15/2008 9:41:31 PM

      ....And this relates to the article how?

  • Posted By: wake up @ 08/16/2008 1:07:52 AM

    Well, could someone tell me why other nations are not fat? Could it be their lifestyle, discipline and wisdom?
    Do you think it helps the image of America abroad?

  • Posted By: kerrilynnaz @ 08/15/2008 10:55:55 PM

    A new study was just completed which has proven that heart risks for thin an fat are nearly the SAME. *gasp* Imagine that! You can read a synoposis of the study in a MSNBC article here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26143255/ and for those that can actually read and comprehend in more depth you can do as I did and write and ask for a copy of the complete study of Mary Fran Sowers, PhD Professor, Dept. of Epidemiology mfsowers@umich.edu It is called "metabolic obesity" and she sent it to me most expeditiously.

    • Posted By: sadie_mae @ 08/15/2008 11:37:29 PM

      Are you really implying that the heart risks for obese people are the same as thin? I'm sorry, but that must be flawed. Common sense dictates how much more the heart has to work for a larger sized body, thus creating additional stress.

      • Posted By: kerrilynnaz @ 08/16/2008 12:36:41 AM

        Sure Ms. PhD researcher... did you even bother to read the parameters of the study? Of course not. Everyone has an opinion, even the uneducated ones. Your ignorance validates one point, everyone is entitled to their opinion - doesn't mean it's the right one.

  • Posted By: agiraffe @ 08/15/2008 7:06:50 PM

    I for one think that the key to avoiding obesity is to stay away from fast food restaurants all together...I gave them up just 3 weeks ago and have lost 7 pounds and I'm hardly starving. I make all of my meals at home (yes, I have a full-time job and work some extra evenings). I pack a lunch pail full of healthy things the night before. I've saved money and lost weight and I don't even miss the greasy fried stuff

    • Posted By: MChieco @ 08/16/2008 12:36:10 AM

      Congrats , you nailed it ! Eating fast food on a regular basis will make you fat. Its as simple as that. You can eat anything you want once in a while. Its what your everyday habits are that will determine if you are obese.

  • Posted By: abbychloe @ 08/15/2008 8:24:54 PM

    Obesity is a sickness much like other addictions. However, it is each individual's responsibility to combat the "disease." It's simply a matter of self-control and honesty. Unless obese people are willing to truly look themselves in the mirror and decide that being thin is better than the very best hamburger, they will always be large. They should NOT get special favors because they choose a heavy lifestyle.

    • Posted By: sadie_mae @ 08/15/2008 11:46:01 PM

      Obesity is a sickness?? Yeah, in some cases, but in most it is just poor choices and a apathy.

  • Posted By: pumapurr @ 08/15/2008 11:00:43 PM

    Here are 5 associated with being not fat:
    1)Getting hit by cars while out jogging
    2)Dying on treadmills and of random heart attacks while trying to be 'healthy" (Tim Russert, Isaac Hayes, Jim Fixx, etc) and sneering that this is an exception and doesn't count (obviously!), even though it happens every day in every community.
    3)Succumbing to pneumonia and cancers because the body is on the border of starvation (Jim Henson, etc.)
    4)Doing your best not to enjoy life, and succeeding
    5)Adding 10 years to your hateful, circumscribed, mean, Scroogelike life, where 20% of your waking moments were spent like a rat in pain (remember, no gain! push it! push it!)

    I myself am average weight, but I've known many many overweight people who are happy and many fitness freaks who are chronic sourpusses. On the whole, I'd rather spend time with a fat person than a skinny one - they are just more fun, and seem to enjoy life. Sorry if fat and jolly bugs you, but that is Santa Claus, Bacchus, The Buddha, etc. Nasty string beans are often villains in the movies for a reason. Because they hate life and hate anyone who enjoys it. THAT is the real reason you inveigh against 'fat". Because it demonstrates abundance, indulgence, and (god forbid!) hedonism because you secretly long for it in your sad self-hateful trapped little lives. Fezziwig would still invite you to have a good time though, Scrooge! There's still time.

    • Posted By: kerrilynnaz @ 08/15/2008 11:14:36 PM

      *clapping* Did you ever NAIL this one on the head!

  • Posted By: loriw @ 08/15/2008 10:36:53 PM

    I am an RN and I have said it before and I say it again and it doesn't just apply to obesity and it's not very politically correct but here goes....
    We don't have a lack of health care in this country we have a lack of health.
    There it is.

  • Posted By: fixitup @ 08/15/2008 9:59:48 PM

    Well, according to you, fat people just aren't worth what " normal " people are then. Let's get rid of them all Adolph.....

  • Posted By: Master Debater @ 08/15/2008 5:08:27 PM

    Before everyone gets their panties in a bunch, why don't you at the topic in a different angle. If you do this, you'll see fat people come out ahead when it comes to all-you-can-eat buffets and extra large clothing. Cha-ching ring one up for the fatties.

    • Posted By: last4one @ 08/15/2008 9:43:08 PM

      Yea....if you wanna be a 40 year old virgin.

  • Posted By: sash @ 08/15/2008 9:18:15 PM

    I fly approximately twice a month on budget airline Southwest; to California and back. I have to say that at least 1/2 the time, I have lost at lease 1/2 of my seat to the obese/overweight person who chooses to sit next to me. I am what used to be normal sized (5'10" and about 150 lbs. and female).

    Am I expected to bring up the fact that I'm sharing my seat with someone else who obviously needs two seats to the flight attendant, or should I (as I have up until now) wait for the flight attendant to notice that I barely fit in the seat because of my height and because of the person's weight next to me, barely fit because of my wholly "inconsiderate" weight?

    I can't change my height but YOU sure as hell can change your weight.

    By the way, I"m this size because I work at it-----also, I work full time and I'm low income.

  • Posted By: Rick A @ 08/15/2008 9:01:40 PM

    Here are 5 more:

    1) Higher food costs than required. If you take the additional extra amount consumed over a lifetime, it is a very significant $ amount
    2) Inability to do traditional home maintenance tasks. You might argue, that's why people rent. Well, then the inability to be a home owner from the finacial perspective needs to be taken into account. This is a huge $ amount over a lifetime.
    3) Lack of self-esteem, causing de-moralizing consequences in motivation (both social and economic)
    4) Early retirement required, with no ability to perform any economic functions.
    5) Early death, causing minimized value to family and society

    Remember, YOU have control. Never forget that most important point

    5) Lastly, lack of self esteem causing

  • Posted By: kerrilynnaz @ 08/15/2008 4:35:46 PM

    This is the stupidest list of 5 things I've ever seen! If you want to hate on fat people, do it with some common sense. Let's see... who costs more - one single fat person, or one family of 5? How about, one fat person vs. one person on WELFARE. Your priorities are effed up!

    • Posted By: firemedic258 @ 08/15/2008 8:36:20 PM

      You are talking about two entirely different issues. Why don't you actually try to make an argument. It isn't a stupid list because these are serious issues. Obesity DOES result in serious health costs. There have been significant injuries to health care workers because of caring for obese patients. The cost of these injuries alone gets expensive. When a team of firefighters and paramedics are required to move ONE patient and this happens more and more often, America does have a problem. Ambulance companies have had to purchase extremely expensive vehicles/stretchers to move obese patients. These are significant costs. Obese individuals should not be discriminated against, but the person who loses half his seat on an airplane to an obese person also shouldn't have his rights taken away. An obese person SHOULD be made to buy two seats if he NEEDS two seats. America has a serious problem and it must face it. You can call yourself a "fat activist" all you want. That still does not mean that the human body was built to carry 400 lbs of weight. Yes, humans must show understanding and empathy to others because we have higher levels of understanding. However, the human body was still built for a certain weight limit. Our empathy and spiritual heart may have evolved to accept obesity, but our knees and physical heart did not. While we can show concern for others in this condition, we still must recognize that it is not a healthy physical condition. If others choose to live their lives this way, fine. However, I should not be forced to use my money to help pay for their lifestyle choices, especially ones with which I do not agree.

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