Saddleback Bloopers

McCain's Broken Classics.....

#1 Hit: I told You "The Surge Would Work"

Note: As Though McCain Originated "The Surge" When in Fact "The Surge" is General McFarland's Military Strategy and it did not happen at Anbar, "The Surge" happened in (Bagdad) The Bloody Anbar Awakening Happened Almost a Year Before "The Surge" and General Petraeus was Not in Iraq, During "The Anbar Awakening" or "The Surge"...

The Anbar Awakening: Is the Crucial Turning Point in the Iraq War and without it, The Surge would still be at Day One and the Casualties Would still be Prevalent. Yet Semi-Senile John McCain has Projected himself as the Creater of "The Surge", as though, Mccain Concieved, Created and his "Surge Strategy" was Implemented by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the President, based on Mccain's "Military Experience" when all He did was Sign on a Non-Partisan BandWagon to send an Additional 20,000 Troops....

Thats All McCain Did.

McCain Hit #2: "I know how to Win Wars"

Oh Really John ? Are you Counting Viet Nam as a WIN for America ? You were Locked Up and being Tortured Day & Night, Remember ? John, Name One Military Strategy that you had Concieved, Created and had Implemented by the President & his Joint Chiefs of Staff...

Please and Don't Mention "The Surge" I just Squashed that LIE


McCain Hit #3: "No Timetable for Withdrawal, Come Home in Victory"

What is a Victory to You John McCain ? The President of Iraq wants us OUT, The President of the USA is setting a "Time Horizon" and its been said, the Time Frame is (2010) Yet, We should Leave in Victory, Not Enough Dead Bodies, for you John ??
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John McCain Hit #4: "The 4 1/2 Year Military Strategy Failed, Because it was a Poorly Planned & Poorly Executed"

McCain is Condemning Joint Chiefs Of Staff, The President, The Vice President, Himself, The Senators & Congressmen and Women who Voted on all the Military Strategies, leading up, to the "Surge" and Above all else the US Military Performed their Jobs Incompetently, Thats Exactly what he's saying...

Yet McCain Double Talks and Calls the U.S Military Honorable, Brave and Corageous..McCain has to Open his EYES WIDE and Accept that he was a Major Force in Voting 95% of the Time on the Iraq War and All Bush Military, Foreign and Domestic Policies....Fact

Nevermind that McCain may have overheard Obama's answers. He didn't need to hear the answers, since he already had the questions. So did Obama. If you listen carefully, you'll hear irrefutable evidence that both candidates had advance knowledge of the questions.

Here are two specific examples:

Obama, when asked about the many millions of orphans available for adoption, said (I'm paraphrasing) "I have to admit I cheated on that question. I did some research."

McCain interjected the following (paraphrased) comment: "Are we going to get back to the appointment of Supreme Court Justices, or should we just move on?".

This was before he was asked the question.

You can't "get back" to a question you haven't yet been asked.

Thank goodness for fact-check.

"In fact, the number of abortions in the U.S. has been falling steadily since the 1980s regardless of whether the person in the White House favored a legal right to abortion or opposed it. Guttmacher's figures show the number peaked several years after the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that created a national legal right to abortion, held fairly steady throughout Republican Ronald Reagan's presidency, and has declined through the presidencies of Republican George H.W. Bush, Democrat Bill Clinton and Republican George W. Bush." Let's see, I'm looking at the paper you Guttmacher study you reference: The number peaked in 1990, not several years after 1973 as you state. The RATE peaked in '80 and '81.
Now look at the decline in two Bush and Clinton presidencies:
Bush Sr.: Decline of 2.1%
Clinton: Decline of 15.6%
Bush Jr (through 2005): 8%
Your article represents the data as if the decline has been equally steady throughout the republican and democratic presidencies.
Please hire someone who can read and report data correctly.
thanks

To the Author of the Article: This is juvenile, long-winded sophistry. Most crucially, you have given your thesis no teeth. You grant, "It's true that Obama approached McCain on the floor of the Senate in early 2006. . .and suggested that they work together on an ethics bill." You also fully concede that "Obama would have been justified in saying that his work paralleled that of McCain and that they had some of the same ethics goals. . . [Obama] also can properly claim some credit for features of the new ethics law [sic] that weren't at first embraced by his party's leaders." So Obama invited McCain to work with him; did work in parallel with him; shared some goals; and went against some of his own party's leaders. Your evidence fully supports that he did in fact "work with McCain, contrary to your own conclusion. Your then *merely label* this as "a huge exaggeration." (Clearly to say 'worked with' necessitates some kind of everlasting and unreflective union is absurd.) Having given no warrant for this label, it stands as no more than a rhetorical flourish. Next time, pick a thesis to which you can give better support than its contrary.

To the Author of the Article: This is juvenile, long-winded sophistry. Most crucially, you have given your thesis no teeth. You grant, "It's true that Obama approached McCain on the floor of the Senate in early 2006. . .and suggested that they work together on an ethics bill." You also fully concede that "Obama would have been justified in saying that his work paralleled that of McCain and that they had some of the same ethics goals. . . [Obama] also can properly claim some credit for features of the new ethics law [sic] that weren't at first embraced by his party's leaders." So Obama invited McCain to work with him; did work in parallel with him; shared some goals; and went against some of his own party's leaders. Your evidence fully supports that he did in fact "work with McCain, contrary to your own conclusion. Your then *merely label* this as "a huge exaggeration." (Clearly to say 'worked with' necessitates some kind of everlasting and unreflective union is absurd.) Having given no warrant for this label, it stands as no more than a rhetorical flourish. Next time, pick a thesis to which you can give better support than its contrary.

Jesus did not lobby governments to help the poor, but taught that we as individuals have a responsibility to care for the sick and needy. As president of a local union we constantly had members demand we support charities with union dues but REFUSED to donate personally.

Eric in VA - What is "sad" is that people don't understand the English language well enough to be able to read AND understand that McCain had just finished a question where the Supreme Court was central to the discussion (Roe ??? V - Wade). To determine if that was going to be the only issue related to the court, he asked a point of clarification as any debate 101 student would know to do. This is what you get with you public education - a cure for which would be McCain???s support of vouchers. Better luck next time.

I would really love to see religion kept out of politics. I'm am so sick of politicians pandering to evangelicals... believe whatever you want, but keep my tax dollars, our laws and our government out of it.

Oi, JC. So you are saying he'd be pro-life and against the death penalty? Umm this is the guy that will pave the road to hell with your soul should you do wrong and not ask forgiveness. I think that's hardly anti-death
penalty. His pop helped aim a rock at a giants head to kill him. He gave Samson the ability to bring down temple walls with his strength and kill a good bit of the philistines in the process. Republican Jesus I say.

Politicians making exaggerated or misleading claims?

Shocking! What's next? Politicians saying anything to get elected?

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why is there no mention of mccain's obvious forehand knowledge of the questions he was going to be asked or the fact that he lifted his "cross in the dirt" story from aleksandr solzhenitsyn's "gulag archipelago"?

Um... Biggest Blooper of them all??? This is pretty obvious - from the transcript:

WARREN: Define marriage.

MCCAIN: A union ??? a union between man and woman, between one man and one woman. That???s my definition of marriage...Could I ??? are we going to get back to the importance of Supreme Court Justices or should I mention ???

WARREN: We will get to that.

MCCAIN:

WARREN: You???re jumping ahead (inaudible).

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Next time they need to do this somewhere like the No Spin Zone. If this could have been edited it would come off beautifully. But now this is not only making McCain appear dishonest, but it makes him look incapable of even hitting softball pitches - he was being given underhanded lobs that Pete Rose would have bet on and he hit some good ones, but in the end it still gets you kicked out of the game when things are rigged.

Just sad...

http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/17/full-transcript-saddleback-presidential-forum-sen-barack-obama-john-mccain-moderated-by-rick-warren/

why is there no mention of mccain's obvious forehand knowledge of the questions he was going to be asked or the fact that he lifted his "cross in the dirt" story from aleksandr solzhenitsyn's "gulag archipelago"?

Some of Huck's Army has gone rouge., theyve started a petition asking Huckabee to leave the GOP, and start a new party. http://www.mccanes.com/newparty.html

Romney cant be VP, if McCain wants to win.
He went too far durning the primary. Even
a video of romney calling McCain dishonest.
http://www.hotpres.com

See McCain talk about in detail his failed first marriage. He Cheated? Cindy was a mistress? http://www.mccanes.com

McCain and Obama leaning to embrace the pickens energy plan. http://www.boonepicken.com

Some of Huck's Army has gone rouge., theyve started a petition asking Huckabee to leave the GOP, and start a new party. http://www.mccanes.com/newparty.html

Romney cant be VP, if McCain wants to win. He went too far durning the primary. Even a video of romney calling McCain dishonest.
http://www.hotpres.com

See McCain talk about in detail his failed first marriage. He Cheated? Cindy was a mistress? http://www.mccanes.com

McCain and Obama leaning to embrace the pickens energy plan. http://www.boonepicken.com