A New Ice Age?

An interesting suggestion from Steve Levine. The Russians have a big weakness. Bush, Obama and McCain should keep in mind Russia's Achilles Heel as they deal with Putin and Medvedev. Levine knows this area, having covered wars in Chechnya, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Tajikistan as well as the Soviet-Afghan war: http://oilandglory.com/2008/08/russias-achilles-heel.html

The author declares a "reality" "that the West lacks the capacity to contain Russia in the way that it did for nearly two decades after the end of the cold war, and the invasion of Georgia signals a new era, one in which authoritarian regimes can brazenly buck the international system." The is a "reality" for several tough reasions: because the West [Europe, the US and Canada] refuse to unite as one fist militarily and put them in Georgia now. BusyJr is a limp and lame ducky and so is NATO. Secondly, power elites like BP, Exxon-Mobil, Chevron, AMOCO, continues to control the 20th century oil profiteering regime that renders foreign policy impotent. As long as the US leaves the strategic national resource of US oil in the hands of robber barons controlling energy and environmental policy instead of nationalizing it as the strategic resource it is, this will be a message that the West has not yet understood the 21st century challenge of building a new energy economy---challenging but absolutely strategically critical. And the US public should riot in front of the truly Soviet Embassy in Washington and crush the old line thinkers in the Banking Party: the Republican.

AFter the fall of the iron curtain in the early 90's the neo-cons go to Russian and destroy their economy with their greasy fingered economics. When their economic theories fail they run away without taking any of the responsibility. Then they set their sights on Iraq and completely destroy that country for the next 50 years. when it doesn't work they run away leaving the US taxpayer to foot the bill and let the pentagon clean up their mess. Now they are trying to get their greasy fingers in Georgia and Iran. Once again they run away like they always have since the Reagan era when things don't work out.

I think it's fair to say the neo-cons are the world's worst enemy ,and it's time we hold them for high crimes and treason.

All the Russians need to do is sit back and wait until Obama becomes president. Then the US will surrender without firing a shot. Everyone better start brushing up on your Russian. :)

Conspiracy theory? Just do a simple google search and read that the US gave Ukraine about 100million to assist the "democratic process", all which went to the opposition. Interfering in other countries elections and buying another government is called a coup. Why has the US in the last years put so much pressure on Europe not to critisise the corrupt mafia regime of Georgia? why has US finded and trained most of the Georgian army?
What Russia is doing now is brilliant, asserting its power in the region and saying to both Europe and Israel: We want partnership and friendship, we can either be your best friend or your worst enemy, it depends on if you will continue your crusade with the US on the encirclement, isolation and aggression against Russia.

LOL, With Dictator Bush at the helm, I think we are looking at WW III real soon.

RD
www.decrypt.net.tc

This is just what the doctor ordered for McBush...didn't someone say we needed another war for McBush to win...If the media would report more and investigate more on what McBush and his hengemen did in Georgia to make them believe we would back them ...The presidency will be owned by the Republican Party their will be no more President it will become a corporation run by CROOKS....

Here's some recent histy in Georgia, for those who are interested.

It's just wikipedia, but this is pretty accurate from what I've been able to tell from further research. The figures vary, but the ones cited here are a good average from the other estimates I have seen.

On April 9, 1991, shortly before the collapse of the USSR, Georgia declared independence. On May 26, 1991, Zviad Gamsakhurdia was elected as a first President of independent Georgia. However, he was soon deposed in a bloody coup d'état, from December 22, 1991 to January 6, 1992. The coup was instigated by part of the National Guards and a paramilitary organization called "Mkhedrioni". The country became embroiled in a bitter civil war which lasted almost until 1995. Eduard Shevardnadze returned to Georgia in 1992 and joined the leaders of the coup ??? Kitovani and Ioseliani ??? to head a triumvirate called the "State Council".

In 1995, Shevardnadze was officially elected as a president of Georgia. At the same time, two regions of Georgia, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, quickly became embroiled in disputes with local separatists that led to widespread inter-ethnic violence and wars. Supported by Russia, Abkhazia and South Ossetia achieved de facto independence from Georgia. More than 250,000 Georgians were ethnically cleansed from Abkhazia by Abkhaz separatists and North Caucasians volunteers (including Chechens) in 1992-1993. More than 25,000 Georgians were expelled from Tskhinvali as well, and many Ossetian families were forced to abandon their homes in the Borjomi region and move to Russia.

Of course, this is occurring 70 years after Stalin's red army took power and overthrew the Georgian government in the early 20th century.
Basically, the two regions want independence from Georgia, and Russia supports their separatist goals. That's like if California wanted independence from the US and Mexico supported the separatists. Wouldn't the US attempt to defeat the separatists in order to retain our sovereignty?

You wonder what Russia is thinking? They are thinking that the cold war never ended for the Americans. America has surrounded Russia with NATO, built US army bases along their borders soon to be supported with a missile defence system that can destroy Russia. With US puppet states commiting genocide against Russia, it is obvious what the intentions are. With US on Russias borders this is the last chance to protect their borders and re-structure & increase their nuclear arsenal to be able to retaliate against US attack. I think they should build their own rocket shield on Cuba to create some balance, set up a defence alliance with China. How did Russia plan and provoke Georgia to start a massive rocket attack on the Osettian cities to slaughter 2000 civilians in their sleep. As America has decleared war on almost the whole world finding new allies should not be too hard. Europeans should support Russia, if US wants to start ww3 I hope the war and casualities are brought to their country instead of on European soil.

Guys, i've just spoken to gorgian girl. She is Russia citizen now.We are collegs. She said there was still shooting in Gorgia. She said she got info rigth from Gorgia. She said Gorgia had suffered much. And still is suffering.

The U.S. ane its EU cronies, carries minimal weight in the world. The U.S. will bring the whole world to ruination with its drive to global dominance. The French learned the sorry proce today in Afghssnistan for their blind allegiance to the U.S. Just so many times you can poke the bear with encroachments in its sphere of influence. What would happen if Russia wanted to put missiles in Mexico. One day the American's will see the sorry truth, that there's a heavy price for empire.

It's amazing to me how many comments blame America for this conflict. Perhaps Russia was acting in its own self-interest. They objected to the oil pipe-line that traverses Georgia because they don't receive any revenue. Putin himself said the greatest tragedy of the 20th century was the break-up of the Soviet Union.
Were the Russians building up troops near S.O.?
The 2 breakaway regions of Georgia are internationally recognized to be part of Georgia, not part of Russia and not independent. Why do the Georgian citizen's have Russian citizenship? Could it be so that the Russians have an excuse to invade Georgia in their so-called "defense"?
Was Georgia trying to prevent a region of their country from building closer ties and gaining support from Russia and separating?
Would we be saying the same thing if Pakistan were to send in forces to the northern frontier to battle the taliban, who also vie for a change in government?

While it is possible that America could have some level of responsibiltiy (we are trying to create and support our allies/making allies out of cold war enemies), what amazes me is that so many here want to blame America for everything bad that happens in the world. There are other leaders and poeple who have their own strategic goals and timeline for accomplishing them. They couldn't care less about Bush or liberty.

Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I'm sure the news regarding the U.S.-Russian stand-off is just great news to the vast "Inductrial Defense Complex"...