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  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 08/20/2008 4:59:32 PM

    Fiorina Admitted That As CEO, She Kept ???Billions??? of Profits For HP By Parking Income
    Overseas. Carly Fiorina pointed out at an economic roundtable with John McCain that, as CEO
    of H-P, she purposefully parked ???billions??? of cash overseas to avoid paying taxes. She said, ???The
    tax rate for us had a huge impact in terms of where we parked cash. And, of course, cash is
    important in a business, so when we looked at the tax rates here, and what it would cost to bring
    cash from overseas to here, we left billions of dollars of cash overseas, because of the differences
    in tax rates.???
    After learning this, I can't believe that people would still support McCain.

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 08/20/2008 11:27:31 AM

    THIS IS WHAT THE LIBERALS SUPPORT ! THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WOMANS RIGHT TO CHOOSE THIS IS MURDER PLAIN AND SIMPLE ! OBAMA REFUSED TO SIGN A BILL STOPPING THIS ! Late Term Abortion ??? The procedures
    There are three general procedures of late-term abortions and partial birth abortions. The first and most popular is called D&E (Dilation and evacuation). Once the cervix is dilated, the fetus is removed by inserting forceps into the uterus. The Fetus is then separated into pieces. These ???pieces??? of your baby will be removed one at a time. Vacuum aspiration is then used to ensure no tissue remains in the uterus.

    The second procedure is early induction of labor. This is very painful and intense for the woman and is rarely used as an abortion procedure.

    The third procedure is called Intact D&X surgery. This procedure includes a 2-3 day process to gradually dilate the cervix using sticks of seaweed which absorb fluid and swell. Once this process is finished, the doctor uses forceps and grasps the baby???s leg to turn it to breech position. The baby is then pulled out of the birth canal, leaving the head inside the canal. An incision is then made at the base of the baby???s skull and the brain tissue is removed, causing the skull to collapse. The entire baby is then removed.

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 08/20/2008 3:07:25 PM

      He voted against that bill because it made almost no provisions to protect the life of the mother and contained language that could have potentially later been used to criminalize all abortion, defining a single fertilized egg as a person. He's never supported late-term abortion and supports individual states criminalizing it. In addition, I might note that he voted "Present" as opposed to "No" on that bill - functionally equivalent, but also a statement that he did not desire to vote against it, he just didn't wish to support it. The bill was designed as part of an attack on all abortion rights. If there was a bill that criminalized late-term abortion WITHOUT containing language that could later be used to criminalize even first-week abortion, my guess is that he'd sign it in a heartbeat.

      You want "liberals" to support a pro-life viewpoint? Then you need to support family planning for the poor, better education in poverty-stricken areas, and other things that will ensure that many of these babies that are currently aborted will not be born to parents that don't want them and don't want to take care of them and whose lives will have very little chance of anything other than a living hell of poverty and terrible feelings that the world doesn't want or need them.

      I saw a wonderful political cartoon that noted that many right-wing supporters currently believe fervently in the rights of the unborn - but not the rights of the born. It seems that as soon as a baby is born into poverty and into a neighborhood and culture that hardly gives them a chance to be educated and become a part of society, the compassion that is so strongly fought for when a baby is a week-old fetus completely ends. It strikes me as remarkably short-sighted.

      So you tell me, sir or madam. Do you support family planning legislation for the poor? A better education in our inner cities? Less police brutality and racism against inner-city youth and poverty? ANYTHING that would improve the lives of so many of these children you fight for so hard as the unborn?

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/20/2008 3:52:45 PM

        Virgil...you are either very poorly informed, or flat out lying...Barry consistently lied, until he was caught. Now his own campaign admits the language in no way restricted Roe vs Wade. He voted against a bill worded identical to the Federal law. After Barry left the Illinois Senate they passed the bill.

        He is in Planned Parenthoods pocket. They TOLD him how to vote. And like the good little Bambi he is, he did as he was told. Good thing Tony Rezko and PP never took opposite sides. Hussein wouldn't have known what to do.

        He has no moral compass. All that matters to him is $$$ and votes. Even Boxer and teddy K. voted for the identical bill in the U.S. Senate.

        Quit only listening to Husseins lying points, and do a little research. It is readily available.

        NOBAMA!!!

        • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 4:58:27 PM

          Isn't it great how they believe Obama is sooooooo intelligent and at the same time never even think to question his supposive failure to comprehend written text. My I have a re-vote? I mis-voted...

        • Posted By: TheVigil @ 08/20/2008 4:50:17 PM

          GOT LINX?

          The legislation allowed partial-birth abortion when it was necessary to save the life of the mother, but contained no other explicit language to protect the mother's *health* in non-life-threatening situations:

          REFERENCE: http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/Barack_Obama_Abortion.htm

          The full text of the bill itself stated that "fetus" and "infant" should be used interchangeably. "The terms "fetus" and "infant" are used interchangeably to refer to the biological offspring of human parents."

          FULL TEXT OF THE BILL: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/sbgroups/sb/900SB0230LV.html

          This could have been used later to set a precedent that *any* human fetus, as young as a day old, had the same legal rights as a newborn and could have possibly been used to prosecute any doctor performing any abortion, though the wording is somewhat debatable.

          Obama has taken *criticism* from the National Organization for Women because his "Present" vote has been seen as failing to make an EXPLICIT "No" vote against the bill, indicating that he wished to indicate LACK of support for THIS BILL as opposed to an EXPLICIT SUPPORT for a bill that ENDORSED partial birth abortions, which Obama has NEVER voted to support!

          REFERENCE: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_voting_record_on_aborti_1.html

          I am TIRED of the mischaracterizations, Roller. A vote against a particular bill is NOT an endorsement of the converse of the bill, and Obama's vote was a formal abstention anyway! But you don't understand that! It's the same "you're either with us or against us" crap that has permeated the national consciousness and it is a LOGICAL FALLACY that would get you failed in a seventh-grade logic class.

      • Posted By: chindognyc @ 08/20/2008 4:43:39 PM

        Thank you. I was just about to say that.

    • Posted By: Jurr @ 08/20/2008 12:28:34 PM

      Very misleading information, but also very believable.

      What does your graphic description do to support your erroneous assertation that Obama supports murder? Ahh I get it, another Goppie catch phrase designed to mobilize the base, regardless of the facts.

      • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 2:48:23 PM

        Misleading? As in McCain supports Bush 95% of the time? Oh I see....... What a joke
        But then again, prove me wrong. Provide proof of your daily reiterated statement. I'll wait

  • Posted By: wilsan @ 08/19/2008 1:05:52 AM

    Mr. Alter lives in a Liberal fantasy world populated by Newsweek, NBC, time and CNN. This writer is the same that a few months ago proclaimed that "there were no bad consequences to losing the Vietnam war"; Evidently Mr. Alter is clueless about history, Khmer Rouge, and boat people. And now Mr. Alter thinks that McCain's criticism has gone too far? Fantasy world... Mr. Alter will be a little more credible when he criticizes liberal smears, such as Andrea Mitchell's claim that McCain spied on the Warren - Obama discussion or some such idiotic smear as that. Newsweek must really be hard up to employ such weak 'journalism' as this guy. on the other hand, maybe the DNC will up NBC's payoff because of this trash.

    • Posted By: katvan @ 08/20/2008 4:55:41 PM

      DNC + MSM + barry camp and Newsweek = proObama Newsletter.

  • Posted By: michaelp0429 @ 08/19/2008 1:44:08 AM

    Oh, I see this is YET ANOTHER forum in which Obamabots are trying to assert that McCain is in the pocket of Big Oil. I guess I shouldn't fault them because that comes directly from their messiah (one more example of Obama's dirty campaign, btw). The Hypocricy is that OBAMA voted for the 18 billion in tax givaways to big oil companies that was the Bush / Cheney energy bill - written by Enron - and McCain, the maverick, voted against the bill because it was bad for American's and good for big oil. That is absolutely verifiable fact - look it up. Who's corrupt and who is in the pocket of Big Oil?? And worse - who has the audacity to accuse his opponents of corruption for things they have not done but he has? As for the Keating 5, McCain didn't pocket any money from that, unlike Obama who pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars when he went to chicago machine political fixer Tony Rezko, after Rezko was already publicly under investigation for FRAUD, and asked him how he could help Obama buy his house for him. I can stand a little bit of corruption - it seems so common these days that you don't usually have a choice that is clean - but the flagrant hypocrisy of slinging mud at your opponents on subject of which YOU are guilty and they are not is staggering.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/19/2008 3:27:22 AM

      Do you have any proof that Obama received hundreds of thousands of dollars from Tony Rezko? If so, I am sure the Justice Department would love to see it. If not, then you are just throwin an accusation out there. Rezko did not help Obama buy his house.

      • Posted By: katvan @ 08/20/2008 4:54:18 PM

        barry received $250K from rezko of which he gave approx $160K to charity. I don't know what you consider "help" but barry buying his house and rita rezko buying the adjacent lot on the same day is not a coincidence. Especially when rezko was already under federal investigation. barry said it was a "boneheaded mistake". that was his judgment in 2006 in regards ,to a man he knew personally and professionally (was a campaign advisor in 2004 senate run). and how crazy is it that people are willing to believe the fairy tale about barry's judgment in a speech in 2002? we've seen what it's like since then.

    • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 08/19/2008 4:01:54 AM

      I am not an Obamanutcase, and I want proof of your assertion. I am glad I was on vacation for six weeks and now I am coming back to more outrageous bs makes me want to go back on vacation. Unbelievable.

  • Posted By: bwlear @ 08/20/2008 4:51:46 PM

    The major differences between how Republicans and Democrats think is that Republicans tend to devide in order to conquer. They have to define an "enemy ", real or imagined, and attempt to focus all attention on defeating it. They use words like " them " to describe anyone who does not follow in EXACT step on policy, religious, or social issues and " us " to describe those who do. There is no middle ground and no room for desention. If you dont think exactly like " us ", then you are unpatriotic, not a Christian, and the reason this country is headed in the wrong direction. If you are one of " them ", it does not matter what is said about you or done to you because you are not one of " us ". It is an old trick, make the enemy look less then human or less then " us ", and it is easier psycologically to treat him in an inhumane manner or as one of " them ". The new trick is to paint the opposition as a " False Messiah " who has no ideal how the " real world " operates. This works because it attracts people who see the world only in shades of black and white. This requires less critical thinking and provides a false sense of order and control. It fails for the exact same reason. When you surround yourself with only " us ", only one train of thought can exist or be tolerated, regardless of the merits of other viewpoints. That is why Republicans can not admit to being wrong on any issue. How could all of " us " not be correct?
    This is also why Republicans have lost control of the Congress and why Sen McCain will not win the next election . Americans have experienced nearly 8 years of "us " vs " them " and realized that maybe I am one of " them ". Republicans have controlled two of the three branches of goverment for 6 of the last 8 years and not many of " us " can say we are better off then we were before they took office. The current Republican administration has lost its moral " high ground " in it attempt to define and defeat the " enemy " because they have forgotten what it is that makes America great and admired around the world. It is not the strength of our military forces that makes us great, it is the example we set for the world. It is our ability to communicate our ideals and opinions freely while tolerating differing viewpoints. Our ability to include everyone makes us different from any nation that has risen upon this planet. When we fail to include outside of our circle, we suffer as a people and nation.

  • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 08/19/2008 2:53:25 PM

    If you really think about it, McCain has been getting his just desserts since he did not take advantage when Obama was in a battle with Clinton. He should have been out there stomping the pavement, it's not Obama's fault that he couldn't effectively manage his campaign when there was no one running against him. Quit blaming everyone else for McCain's shortcomings.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 08/19/2008 3:06:36 PM

      As learned from the primaries, best campaigner is not necessarily strongest candidate

      • Posted By: raddave @ 08/19/2008 11:49:34 PM

        Sure it makes that person the stronger candidate, it shows that he or she can run an organized and effeciant campaign.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 08/20/2008 11:08:29 AM

          stronger candidate, sure. Strongest? Not necessarily

          • Posted By: katvan @ 08/20/2008 4:43:32 PM

            barry ran such a wonderful campaign that he couldn't close after winning 11 in a row and then limped home so the superdelegates could coronate him. how many times did the MSM tell Sen Clinton to just quit already?

  • Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 08/20/2008 4:16:42 PM

    People who truely LOVE and CARE about America will NOT vote for McCain!!

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 4:43:32 PM

      Yeah, the ones who truely love this country would never fight for it. I guess in some twillight zone episode that makes sense.

  • Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 08/20/2008 4:42:56 PM

    Posted By: blesstheUSA @ 08/19/2008 7:57:01 PM
    Comment: i wonder how hard is is for Jonathan to type his column while his lips are firmly attached to Obama's rear end.
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    Godblessthe USA.....I can see you are, indeed, a fervent Christian!! However, your comment undermines your "Chrisianity" because it is nasty and nasty and nasty. I have one for you, You just keep your lips locked on McCain's old wrinkled rearend!!

  • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/20/2008 7:47:02 AM

    ALTER: (Disclosure: Newsweek.com has a partnership with factcheck.org). If you don't believe me about the smear gap, check their analyses of campaign ads. So you are aware of disclosures. Where is: I, Jonathan Alter, as well as the entire NEWSWEEK staff are in the bag for Obama? Do you 'write' on Obama's fight the smear website too or just here? Nobody can possibly believe anything you say about smears when that's all you did to Senator Clinton.

    Sad. So very sad how you don't stop And you may want to talk to HOWARD FINEMAN to see what he admitted to on MSNBC about barry's trip. No matter what the spin on Landstuhl, the fact remains that barry did not go and he went everywhere else on his itinerary. No need for a "fact" check. NEWSWEEK is interested in "facts" only when they can be used to barry's advantage.






    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/20/2008 8:01:48 AM

      Newsweek has also ran many stories about McCain and Clinton, as well. Obama is what sells magazines, not McCain. Newsweek panders to what the people who buy their magazines want to see. Pure business, can't blame them. They DID run a large cover story on McCain's wife, and also recently on Bush.

      • Posted By: katvan @ 08/20/2008 4:34:29 PM

        it goes far beyond money making...they're promoting probarry propaganda..

  • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 08/20/2008 3:41:49 PM

    The majority of Bush's time in the White House has been focused on spending money for a war that was unwarranted. Bush has put so much money in other countries that it is pitiful. Bush has snubbed the military time and time again by refusing to supply them with the supplies and personnel needed to win this illegitimate war. The vets have not had substantial care because Bush and his Administration has turned its back on them. Soldiers are committing suicide because there is no care. All this and McCain has supported Bush 110% on all this. He has not once said he felt duped with the intelligence. He has not one time opposed the cover ups. McCain is a Bush lapdog dressed up in a puppet suit with cable strings costing the tax payer billions more to support. We are already paying the cost of his Georgian counterparts because he would assume create a new cold war with his illicit behaviour coupled with the missile defense deal Rice has orchestrated with Poland. To think that this man should be leader is crazy. But hey, it takes crazy people to do it.

    I like my mushroom clouds orange with grey sprinkles on top.

    • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 08/20/2008 4:20:02 PM

      Bush didn't put money into other countries he put it into Halliburton, KBR, the arms manufacturers (based in Texas) etc. That money didn't disappear it went to KBR now based in Dubai then to stockholder accounts in the Caymans, And as long as the war continues so does the money.
      Why do you think Bush seems so unconcerned about the economy in this country? he has no worries at all

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 4:02:35 PM

      We already knew you liked mushroom clouds. Under an Obama presidency we will certainly get the chace to see what one looks like in a well populated American city.

  • Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 08/20/2008 4:15:19 PM

    Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 14:56:04
    Comment: Well how misleading was it when Iran declared it a victory for Iran that the USA showed up for the peace talks that went absolutely nowhere. Oh except to empower Iran and give them a sense of victory. Was that the outcome we were trying for? I believe the talks could work in certain cases, however with Obama's supposive understanding of everyones religion in the world he should have known better. A mistake is a mistake. Even if it wasn't Bush or a Republican.
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    It was a BUSH representative that ATTENDED that forum, NOT a President Obama's representative. The fact is that foreign countries have very little respect for our president and our country at this time in our history. I believe a President Obama would get much more cooperation from foreign leaders. Even in marrriage people are advised to "DISCUSS THING AND TO COMPROMISE" for a successful marriage. Tell me, why wouldn't discussion (diplomacy" and compromise (cooperation) work on the world stage?? Senator Obama has it RIGHT; all McCain has is threats and war, "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iraq"! Pretty soon we'll be hearing, "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Russia" ! Do you think Russia is going to cooperate with a president McCain?? McCain just recently talked about his DISDAIN for Russia and its leaders which he has had for YEARS!! And not too long ago, McChord said Mr. Putin as the president of Germany!!! You do not keep allies by telling them you have hated them for years!! McCain has NO inkling in how to deal with foreign leaders......other than threaten war and actually going to war. McCain KNOWS how to START WARS; he kNOWS NOTHING about ENDING WARS!! Not only is McCain a warmonger, he is also known for being a wh**remonger!!

  • Posted By: katvan @ 08/20/2008 4:14:43 PM

    JONATHAN ALTER:

    "McCain's attacks on Obama go too far. He knows better."

    Alter's attacks on Clinton went too far. Did you know better?


  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/19/2008 10:04:40 PM

    The truth about one of Barry the BabyKiller's, main supporters. The man has no moral compass........

    Facts about Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood:

    Margaret Sanger said about her 1939 "Negro Project"......"We do not want
    word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and
    the minister is the man who can straighten out the idea if it ever
    occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

    Her book, "The Pivot of Civilization", has a chapter called "The Cruelty of
    Charity." In it she blasts as "insidiously injurious" programs to
    provide "medical and nursing facilities to slum mothers." In other
    words, Sanger wanted ethnic cleansing. Instead of helping the poor,
    she considered them (particularly Blacks, Hispanics, and Jewish
    immigrants) slum dwellers who would soon overrun the boundaries of
    their slums and contaminate the better elements of society with their
    inferior genes.

    Clarence Gamble, president of the American Eugenics Research
    Association, said, "There is a great danger that we will fail because
    the Negroes think it a plan for extermination. Hence lets appear to
    let the colored run it as we appear to let [the] south do the
    conference in Atlanta.". Under this policy, Planned Parenthood of
    America hired a full-time "Negro Consultant""in 1944.

    .............................BUT WHAT ABOUT TODAY??????........................................

    The Advocate released a transcript of a taped conversation between an actor posing as a white racist and wanting to make a donation, and a woman identified as Autumn Kersey, vice president of marketing for Planned Parenthood of Idaho.

    The transcript reads:

    Actor: I want to specify that abortion to help a minority group, would that be possible?
    Planned Parenthood: Absolutely.
    A: Like the black community for example?
    PP: Certainly.
    A: The abortion - I can give money specifically for a black baby, that would be the purpose?
    PP: Absolutely. If you wanted to designate that your gift be used to help an African-American woman in need, then we would certainly make sure that the gift was earmarked for that purpose.
    A: Great, because I really faced trouble with affirmative action, and I don't want my kids to be disadvantaged against black kids. I just had a baby; I want to put it in his name.
    PP: Yes, absolutely.
    A: And we don't, you know we just think, the less black kids out there the better.
    PP: (Laughs) Understandable, understandable.
    A: Right. I want to protect my son, so he can get into college.
    PP: All right. Excuse my hesitation, this is the first time I've had a donor call and make this kind of request, so I'm excited, and want to make sure I don't leave anything out.

    Lila Rose said the actor asked each PP branch contacted about lowering "the number of black people," and none expressed concern about the racist reason for the donation.

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/20/2008 4:08:58 PM

      are you suggesting that mr. obama was part of a conspiracy to wipe out african americans? thats just dumb on so many levels. not to mention your fictitious interivew, source please

  • Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 08/20/2008 3:17:07 PM

    Finally, someone brave and honest enough in the media to call McCain and his ADs for what they are!! I posted the following in another blog earlier today, and I am so glad you have seen the absurdity and dishonesty in McCain's ADs. McCain has lost ALL ceditibility with me. It saddens me that people seem to believe the garbage McCain puts out there!
    I would like to know why the media does NOT disect McCain's ADs which do NOT speak the truth? Yet, Senator Obama's ADs are disected and gone through with a fine-tooth comb. Are the media and McCain in cahoots to destory Senator Obama's character, patiotism, integrity, and everything else good and decent about Senator Obama. McCain says the most outrageous things, such as, "I KNOW HOW TO WIN WARS!" and "I KNOW HOW TO CATCH BIN LADEN AND I AM GOING TO GET HIM WHEN I BECOME PRESIDENT!". WHY doesn't the media CALL HIM ON THESE OUTRAGEOUS STATEMENTS?? IF, he so knowledgeable, what the hell are we still doing in Afghanistan and Iraq?? Why hasn't John McCain caught and gotten Lin Laden? It has been seven years and Bin Laden is still out there! IF McCain is such a war and terrorist genius, as he is claiming to be, why didn't he advice our millitary Brass in both Iraq and Afghanistan?? McCain is claiming to be the "war genius" and the "catch and get Bin Laden genius" yet has WITHHELD that knowledge from our military leaders! Please, fellow Americans, think about this!.

    IT is ONE of TWO things:

    1. Either McCain is a genious and withhelde critical and vital information and ultimately committed GENOCIDE, TREASON, AND AIDED AND ABETTED THE ENEMY BY HIS SILENCE THESE PAST SEVEN YEARS, OR

    2. He is telling a huge whopper to deceive ALL Americans to get our votes. He already lied about Iraq having mass weapons of mass destruction, voted for an unnecessary war, and claimed the Iraq War would be easy and quick. McCain CALLIT IT ALL WRONG!! McCain has VERY POOR JUDGEMENT AND EVEN POORER VISION. DO WE REALLY WANT THIS TELLER OF TALL TALES AND NO JUDGEMENT AND NO VISION AS OUR LEADER? I urge everyone to really give these issues serious thought. OUR COUNTRY AND OUR LIVES DEPEND ON IT! I would like to think that we, the people, are much, much more intelligent and much, much smarter than McCain and camp take us for!!

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 4:05:19 PM

      Even Newsweek has a article on Obama's lies of McCain. Please don't expect more of my candidate then you would expect of your own. It's called hypocrisy.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 08/19/2008 10:34:41 PM

    Regarding President Bush's 2001 tax cut package, which overwhelmingly benefited the rich and contributed to the transformation of the budget surplus into a deficit, McCain said, "I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who need tax relief," according to a February 27 article in The Washington Times. Yet in 2006, when Congress was considering extending Bush's 2003 capital gains tax cuts, which benefited mainly the richest Americans, McCain voted with his Senate Republican colleagues to keep them on the books. When asked during the April 2 broadcast of NBC's Meet the Press why he changed his mind on Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy, McCain replied: "I do not believe in tax increases. ... The tax cuts are now there, and voting to revoke them would have been to -- not to extend them would have meant a tax increase." Even tax-cutting advocates who cheered McCain's reversal could not help but call it what it was: "It's a big flip-flop," said conservative movement leader and president of Americans for Tax Reform Grover Norquist, "but I'm happy he flopped."

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/20/2008 3:59:44 PM

      ugh a blatantly regressive tax and still neocon's are dumb enough to applaud it as small gov. a huge transfer of wealth to the already wealthy and people in the middle class are stupid enough to think the tax cut would benefit them

  • Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 08/20/2008 3:53:00 PM

    Posted By: JoanR @ 08/20/2008 12:35:59 PM
    Comment: And as McCain takes the lead in today's polls for the first time, I quote to the disgusting core of Obama supporters who took the "high road" so dear to them and polluted the blogs with Hillary is a Bitch and McCain is an old degenerate idiocies,the words of Obama's inspiration, the Rev Wright: Your chickens are coming home to roost and that rough sound that you hear is the Fat Lady clearing her throat in honor of your messiah's candidacy.
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    Would your fat lady happen to be Hilliary, per chance??

    People will come to the very real conclusion that McCain is a great deceiver and teller of the tallest and most untrue tales; he even surpasses Hillliary!! American citizens, as a rule are GOOD and HONEST people and they can see WHAT McCain and his Rovean Campaign are doing and WHY !! Poor old wrinkled McCain cannot win unless the besmirches his opponent ---and that , "my freinds" is the truth. McCain's own campaign stated McCain does NOT speak for the campaign!!! Looks like Rover Jr. is controlling everything McCain says and does.....which means McCain has NO backbone, he is merely an old puppet parroting his ROVEAN MASTER.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 08/19/2008 10:38:31 PM

    In 2000, McCain declared that the teaching of "intelligent design" was a matter for local school boards to decide, in contrast to then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush's position that creationism should be taught in classrooms. As The New York Times reported on August 3, 2005, however, McCain expressed more openness to the idea of intelligent design that year, saying that "different schools of thought" about the origins of mankind should be presented to students. The later statement mirrored what President Bush had said just three weeks earlier, when he defended the teaching of intelligent design by saying, "I think that part of education is to expose people to different schools of thought."

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/20/2008 3:42:06 PM

      wow this country gets stupider and creepier by the day. literaly

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/19/2008 10:41:18 PM

      OMG, that is just SCARY. A whole nation of total throwbacks to the Dark Ages. Just think how dumb America will be in the coming generations. It's sure that we will be a former "world power" if our people are educated with ignorance and psuedo-religious philosophy posing as "science."

  • Posted By: cencarnacion @ 08/19/2008 11:42:39 PM

    Not good for Obama at all. I sense a high level of anxiety here amongst Obama supporters. Could it be perhaps due to the new electoral map figures showing McCain winning the election?

    Obama is being attacked from all fronts: abortion, infanticide, birth certificate showing Islam and Indonesian citizenship, ObamaNation, and many more to come including resurrection of Wright, Rezko, Ayers, Dornyn, Pflaeger.

    He can no longer give the lofty speeches of 'The One' since he has been exposed. That was a great ad by the McCain camp wouldn't you say.

    He is now hoping that the MSM not cover him too much as he is worried that the bias might turn off the electorate against him. The MSM has no choice but to cover McCain.

    It is now obvious that Obama has no experience to draw from as seen in the Saddleback forum. He is a lost soul without a teleprompter.

    And things are just getting started. The 527s are busy crafting their sledgehammers that will smash the box that Obama is hiding in.

    • Posted By: cencarnacion @ 08/20/2008 12:11:48 AM

      In addition to what I posted, Obama pulled the race card with detrimental effects. Anybody who says that it was a wise move on his part do not understand human nature.

      • Posted By: raddave @ 08/20/2008 12:18:24 AM

        Who played the "race card" first, Obama by saying that the repugnants are going to say he doesn't look like the presidents on money, or the repugnants for putting Obama's face on a bill before Obama said this?

        • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/20/2008 8:09:45 AM

          barry statted the race card before SC. He had a whole list of "racist" comments made by the Clinton camp before Mr Clinton said anything. Read the memo? haha of course not. Did you hear axelrod's admission that barry was in fact using the race card with his dollar bill statements?

          • Posted By: raddave @ 08/20/2008 10:25:04 AM

            Can you back up the claims of the "race card" being played before S.C.? As, I remember, it was a civil campaign until S.C. Obama didn't crop his face on a bill, McCain's campaign did that and it was one month before Obama mentioned it.

            • Posted By: katvan @ 08/20/2008 3:35:49 PM

              Read the memo barry's camp had already to go in SC to paint the Clinton's as racists. Completely before Mr Bill made a single statement. Can you quote me the question the reporter taunted Mr Bill with? Can you quote the ensuing NY Times article where Rev Jesse said he wasn't offended? it's all been documented in these blogs. barry brought up the race card before anything McCain did. 6/20 barry said that "they" (McCain) are going to make you afraid of me. Theyre gonna say I'm young, inexperienced, have a funny name and "Did I mention he's black?" barry brought race up first. barry O presidential seal 6/20. Mccain came back with the ad 6/23 that showed barry's face on the $100 bill (Ben Franklin - not a president). And then barry brought up the dollar bill comments three times in one day 7/31 in Missouri. Then it took 3 denials and then finally the "truth" from axelrod that yes barry was using race. you've been around here for a long time promoting barry and you're still asking for proof. what does that say?

              ps I'm not a republican. I'm continually amazed at how little barry fans know about him...especially ones who have been doing it for what? A year?

          • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/20/2008 2:47:19 PM

            mccains camp was the ones who made the dollar on the bill statement. if thats playing the race card then its clear who deserves the finger wag

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/20/2008 12:16:21 AM

      i sense a high degree of desparation omong McCain supporters. Claiming that McCain is leading in the polls when he isn't, accusing Obama of infanticide, when he has never performed or had an abortion and has said many times that he is not personally in favor of abortions, but does not confuse his personal and his political beliefs, Claiming Obama's relition is listed as muslim on his birth certificate, when a baby's religion is not listed on a birth certificate, Can't get the story straight on which foreign country Obama is a citizen of, Indonesia or Kenya, always bring up Obama's questionable associates, while ignoring McCain's.

      • Posted By: cencarnacion @ 08/20/2008 12:42:39 AM

        raddave,

        I've read your earlier posts and they were coherent and sometimes made some sense. However, your response here seems like I hit a raw nerve. The truth hurts. Obama is really hurting. He is cornered. He can no longer give lofty speeches which was his main selling point. This option has been stymied by the "The One" ad. What then will he draw from? I am so sure you will not say Obama's experience. Nor can he draw from Michelle Obama. He will be spending the millions in his campaign chest on the defensive.

        • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/20/2008 2:40:34 PM

          if anyone took that crap ad serious then this whole country is in trouble

        • Posted By: raddave @ 08/20/2008 2:53:59 AM

          i think he will rely on his judgement, something McCain seriously lacks.

          • Posted By: dick kay @ 08/20/2008 8:07:59 AM

            barry's "judgment"? In regards to what? Rezko? Ayers? Wright? Dorothy Tillman? In case you haven't kept up, barry's Iraq position is a complete fairy tale and the fact that he kept using it showed extremely poor judgment. And the barry fans who believed he actually had a say and actually followed through on it are completely clueless. Voting for a candidate based on a complete and utter misrepresentation. NO I'm not going into it again. It's all over these blogs especially Alter's.

          • Posted By: raddave @ 08/20/2008 2:56:31 AM

            BTW if you are talking about my typos, it is because I am not using my computer and this one has a real crappy keyboard, the left shift key is broken and that is what is hitting a nerve with me ;-)

  • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 08/20/2008 3:26:40 PM

    McCain puts McCain and Bush first. McCain's agenda is higher taxes for middle class, deport the low class, reduce the minimum wage, shut down Social Security, reduce taxes for the wealthy, take away affirmative action, shut down all efforts for alternative fuels and put everything in oil production as well as continue to give money to overseas oil nations, take the funds from the Medicare system and invest them into funeral homes to wait for the elderly to arrive, demolish all VA hospitals and leave the vets in the care of their families, bomb Iraq again, bomb Iran, bomb Russia, bomb Canada, bomb, bomb, bomb; move the military over 2 inches to the save face and give GW a big hug.

    Is this attack too far?

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 3:34:35 PM

      Attack? Can we even say a bunch of deperate lies is qualified to be an attack? Common sense would say if any of this so-called post was true Obama would have a better lead then 1 point wouldn't it?

  • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 08/20/2008 3:23:24 PM

    These are McCain's words in 2002. For all of you that don't see through the mud that McCain slings, or all the lies that he has spewed, read it for yourself.

    "I didn't decide to run for President to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run campaign as if it was some grand act of patriotism.

    I wanted to be President because it had become my ambition to become President.

    I was 62 yold when I made the decision and I thought it was my one shot at the prize."

    Again I say, McCain just wants the title, not the responsibilities.

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