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Distorting McCain's Remarks

An Obama ad uses dated and out of context quotes to portray McCain as clueless on the economy.

By D'Angelo Gore | factcheck.org
Aug 19, 2008 | Updated: 1:35  p.m. ET Aug 19, 2008

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  • Posted By: Truthyness @ 09/09/2008 10:07:58 PM

    Comment: McCain and Palin have accused Obama of requesting nearly $1 billion in earmarks for his state. In reality, this year, Obama has requested $0.

    Obama hasn't asked for any earmarks this year. Last year, he asked for $311 million worth, about $25 for every Illinois resident. Alaska asked this year for earmarks totaling $198 million, about $295 for every Alaska citizen.

    How is that distorting McCain's Remarks? Sound more like McCain and Palin are just outright liars. How stupid does McCain and Palin think the American people are?

  • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 09/07/2008 12:42:04 AM

    Comment: 9/11, religion, central bank, income taxes and war.... What is the connection?
    http://propagandameatgrinder.magnify.net/video/Zeitgeist-s-hrvatskim-titlom/theater#theater_title

  • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 09/06/2008 11:55:28 PM

    Comment: 9/11 and religion... What is the connection?? There are the answers.... please pass this video on
    http://propagandameatgrinder.magnify.net/video/Zeitgeist-s-hrvatskim-titlom/theater#theater_title

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 09/06/2008 9:15:04 PM

    Comment:
    JOHN MCCAIN AND HIS EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE AS A COMMANDER IN CHIEF (LEADER).IN THE U.S. NAVY:

    In the Spring of 1975 John S. McCain was given an opportunity to redeem his Navy career. He was first named the 2nd in Command and then on to Commanding Officer (CO)of the Navys largest Air Squadron, a massive Unit at Cecil Field in Jacksonville FLA. At Cecil Field, they trained pilots and maintained attack jets called A7s. This was McCains first measured entry into leadership.

    http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1185143625/bctid1761979374

    McCain was revered by many on the base: Testimonials

    Carl M. Smith - fellow officer, Cecil Field:

    John was a commander who did not attempt to tell people how to do jobs (no micro-management) . . . instead he picked PEOPLE HE HAD CONFIDENCE IN and INSPIRED them to rise to the highest level of their own ability.

    Sharleen Hollenback, Navy enlistee under McCain:

    * He was a very ACCESSIBLE person
    * He was very KIND
    * He CARED ABOUT THE PEOPLE that worked in his Squadron
    * I very much ADMIRED him and felt like was part of something very important in that squadron.

    Carl M. Smith - fellow officer, Cecil Field:

    John would talk to the Sr. chief and KID him, given him a hard time, saying things like ???what about your behavior chief?, what about your drinking?, huh, huh, huh???? . . .which would rock them back on their heels while the rest of the crew and shop WATCHED IN FASCINATION at how McCain was interacting with their chief petty officer.

    That was part of his unorthodox HANDS-ON STYLE. John was not one to cloister himself away in his office on the 2nd floor of the Squadrons airplane hanger.

    Carl M. Smith - fellow officer, Cecil Field:

    Instead, on a DAILY basis he would WALK THROUGH the maintenance spaces, all the functional shops on THE BASE. He would go though the engine shop, the hydraulic shop, the fuel shop, the weapons shop - every one of them. He would GO IN AND TALK TO ALL the folks in the shops.

    Jim Lichtenwalter - fellow office, Cecil Field:

    I just think that he did a great job of making himself understand what other peoples jobs were and what their responsibilities were. . .

    In its heyday in the Vietnam era, Cecil Field was buzzing with THOUSANDS OF NAVY OFFICERS ENLISTEES, AND THEIR FAMILIES.

    J. B. Renninger, former Navy Pilot at Cecil Field:

    You would have anywhere from 10 - 12 aircrafts in a pattern at any one time, doing touch and go???s
    We would operate from 7am one morning thru 2am or 3 am into the NEXT morning. It was a very ACTIVE BASE then.

    Cecil Field was John McCains last posting with the Naval Squadron, but one that would CARRY RELEVANCE today as HE LOOKS TO LEAD OUR COUNTRY.





    http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1185143625/bctid1761979374

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 08/26/2008 7:46:09 PM

    Comment: It was reported today that Obama stated that the United States has not also set the best example to Russia with regards to invading countries. The obvious reference is to Iraq and John McCain retorted that our invasion of Iraq was proper and justified and can not be compared to the invasion of Georgia by Russia.
    Here is a thought for the Democrat leadership on their position of no American support for Iraq.
    Obama discussed and downplayed his recent harrowing experience with their chartered campaign aircraft that had elevator problems due to an accidental inflation of a rear exit slide. The media reported it was a serious event. United States military pilots experience harrowing events every day. Thanks to the recommended McCain troop surge and George Bush original decision to overthrow Sadaam Hussein, US Airforce and Navy pilots no longer have to provide a continuous no fly zone over Iraq. They had provided this no fly zone to prevent Sadaam Hussein from using his airforce and helicopters to slaughter helpless Kurds in the North of Iraq. Before the United States invasion under George Bush, this nofly zone had to be carried out from carriers and bases in Kuwait which involved distances and hazards. The successful overthrow of Sadaam has saved countless American pilot lives and harrowing military aircraft safety incidents similar to what occurred on the Obama chartered campaign plane. Democrats under the leadership of Obama would have us performing a no fly zone mission over Iraq for the next fifty years instead of going in and taking out Sadaam as we did and saving countless US military pilots lives over the next fifty years. McCain support of the war in Iraq was the right thing to do and will have the long term effect of saving American lives.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 08/26/2008 7:45:49 PM

    Comment: As a former Navy Pilot John McCain knows the dangers of flying military missions over a hostile country. I am sure Barack Obama with his recent campaign airline charter scare have a better understanding of the dangers. Barack Obama should have a special appreciation of the dangers also in flying in even nonmilitary nonhostile situations. It is a fact that United States Airforce and Navy pilots lives will be saved by not having to continue a nofly zone over a hostile Iraq for the next fifty years thanks to the support of John McCain for the war. The surge policy was the right policy and will save American military pilot lives.

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/25/2008 1:50:55 AM

    Comment: Awe repigs, you're confused, if you don't vote for Obama, you a MORON not a racist. If you call him a MUSLIM, knowing he is not...you're a racist. If you're in that group of "older white males" who refuse to hear him, you're a racist.
    As for "experience" ther are several 4 Star and lower Generals who say that being a prisoner does NOT a president make...and given mccains attendance record or rather his absence record of 61% gone, his congressional experience is questionable at best. Add to that the fact that for 8 yrs he has sided with bush 95% of the time and here goes the figures ;) :

    25 yrs in congress
    Present 38% of the time = 9.5 yrs out of 25yrs
    VOTED with bush 95% of 8yrs = 7.5 yrs out of 8 (for a total of 6 mos out of 8yrs mccain did not agree with bush)
    Let's see our final number shall we.

    Time in congress where mccain was just mccain and not a lap dog for bush = 2.5yrs

    2.5yrs of actual attendance that was not just BUSH yrs, hmmm who else has just over 2.5 yrs senatorial experience less all the corruption of a John McCain...hmmmm..

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/22/2008 3:58:26 PM

    Comment: Mr. McCain,

    Let me make this perfectly clear, we are NOT questioning you POW story, we are questioning how many houses you have (a...i don't...I'll have my staff), what it means to be rich (5million), what it means to "WIN" in Iraq. etc....etc. We get it you sucked as a pilot and were shot down and captured...you're a POW survivor...and?

  • Posted By: trini @ 08/22/2008 10:54:28 AM

    Comment: We need someone who is going to wakeup every day and thinking about the the working class and that would be Obama

  • Posted By: Check facts @ 08/22/2008 8:04:47 AM

    Comment: The credit crisis is a year old now. McCain's statements regarding the "strong" economy were AFTER the combination of shocking failures on the part of the Republican administration created this mess, and AFTER it had become part of the public discussion. McCain was and remains, clueless.

    John McCain has never been the sharpest tool in the shed, having graduated 4th from the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy. What little he knows about economics came straight from his mentor, Phil "Americans are Whiners" Gramm.

  • Posted By: Check facts @ 08/22/2008 8:04:15 AM

    Comment: The credit crisis is a year old now. McCain's statements regarding the "strong" economy were AFTER the combination of shocking failures on the part of the Republican administration created this mess, and AFTER it had become part of the public discussion. McCain was and remains, clueless.

    John McCain has never been the sharpest tool in the shed, having graduated 4th from the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy. What little he knows about economics came straight from his mentor, Phil "Americans are Whiners" Gramm.

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/21/2008 4:18:19 PM

    Comment: Here's a NONDISTORTION for you FACTFIXER...mccain is just bought and sold, first BIG OIL buys him for (as of the end of July) $1,580,000.00, then Gruzia buys him for $800,000.00. The only "hard choice" for mccain is who will pay more.

  • Posted By: Karenn1 @ 08/21/2008 10:19:46 AM

    Comment: Forcaste next year worst then this year. If Obama win the rich will cash out of the market.If McCain win we will have A Deprression, cause you can't keep printing money . Tax cut is insane and I don't know anything about economy

  • Posted By: MamaCath @ 08/21/2008 3:10:17 AM

    Comment: First of all, let me congrate most of you on your hysteria, racism and gereral, all-around nastiness. You take the cake. It's quite clear that you have no intention of following the rules set down by our Founding Fathers on just who is elegible to become President. And, just in case you haven't read those rules, Muslims, Athesists, Hindus, Shintos or Whatevers are elegible. As for race? Well, they never said so all may apply; besides, we now happen to have laws regarding discrimination. Oh, and just to let you know, in the very early 1800s, we signed what is called the Treaty of Tripole with an Arab king in which it was stated specifically, that we, the United States of America, WAS NOT FOUNDED AS A CHRISTIAN NATION. This Treaty was ratified and signed into law by Congress and signed by the President. Therefor, it matters not one wit what the religion of our President is because George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and all the rest of the signers of the Declaration of Independance made laws saying it was ILLEGAL for us to consider religion when choosing a President or running the government. Read your Constitution; read your history. Our Founding Fathers were NOT men of God; most of them, but not all, believed in God. And most of them sinned greatly, too; as many were adulters.

    The other thing is; why all this crap about lies, exaggeration, flip-flops, etc. You must just enjoy working yourselves up into a frenzy of bad karma towards another person. There's no way for any non-brain damaged person to get through one election process and not realize that every politician running for office lies, exaggerates, changes his/her mind, etc.Get a life! If you want to get angry, go after child molesters, wife abusers - channel that energy into something effective! If you want to be patriotic, volunteer at your canidate's office or, even better, your local VA Hospital or Center.

    I come from a long military tradition and I, too, serve the military. My brother just got back from 15 months in Baghdad and my nephew has done 15 mos. in Baghdad and 15 mos in Afghanistan. At 62, I'm just too old for this crap anymore - it's tearing me apart. But, I go on because it's all I know; I've been "in" since the day I was born. This president has destroyed the military and betrayed the wounded. You need to see what I see. And that's all I'm going to say about that.

    Ah, rant away - if it gives you pleasure but remember it just adds to all the nastiness and unkindness there is in our country today. And that we don't need any more of - thanks to Rush Limbaugh, FOX News and others it's now perfectly acceptable to spew that crap all over the place. We've become a nation of bullies - and bullies always get taken to the mat. Think about that. History doesn't lie.

    • Posted By: bojack27 @ 08/21/2008 10:52:12 AM

      Comment: Also you are forgetting to look at the following areas..... THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT
      HOLY TRINITY CHURCH v. U.S.
      143 U.S. 457, 12 S.Ct. 511, 36 L.Ed. 226
      Feb. 29, 1892

      Ruled that this is a Christian Nation .... read for yourself by clicking on the link below

      http://members.aol.com/TestOath/HolyTrinityOp1-2.htm

      Now click on the link below and look at all the states Preambles of their constitution and you will see God invoked in every single one of them...

      http://forums.hannity.com/archive/index.php/t-238369.html

      As for the founding fathers not being Christians .... there is plenty of evidence that says they were and you no doubt are taking the position that many secularists take and say that they were Deist.... click ont he link below and read...

      http://www.creationists.org/churchandstate.html

      I served in the Army for 24 years myself.... my three brothers also served and one is still serving as we speak, my dad served for 21 years in the 82nd Airborne.... I don't see the president destroying the military ... I see the liberal media and those who patrionize terrorist destroying our military and country.... rather you want to believe it or not we are in a very hostile world.... it will not get any better by thinking of changing policies as some wish..... you and others don't know the agenda of the Islamic extermist.... just ask Israel how many peace treaties or agreements the extremist have abided by ....

    • Posted By: bojack27 @ 08/21/2008 10:36:28 AM

      Comment: You are misled on the Treaty and the founding Fathers....

      Translation controversy

      Miller's Investigation and NotesThe translation of the Treaty of Tripoli by Barlow has been found faulty, and there is doubt whether Article 11 corresponds to anything of the same purport in the Arabic version.[17]

      In 1931 Hunter Miller completed a commission by the United States government to analyze United States's treaties and to explain how they function and what they mean in terms of the United States's legal position in relationship with the rest of the world.[18] According to Hunter Miller's notes, "the Barlow translation is at best a poor attempt at a paraphrase or summary of the sense of the Arabic" and "Article 11... does not exist at all."[19]

      After comparing the United States's version by Barlow with the Arabic and even the Italian version, Miller continues by claiming that:

      The Arabic text which is between Articles 10 and 12 is in form a letter, crude and flamboyant and withal quite unimportant, from the Dey of Algiers to the Pasha of Tripoli. How that script came to be written and to be regarded, as in the Barlow translation, as Article 11 of the treaty as there written, is a mystery and seemingly must remain so. Nothing in the diplomatic correspondence of the time throws any light whatever on the point.[19]

      From this, Miller concludes: "A further and perhaps equal mystery is the fact that since 1797 the Barlow translation has been trustfully and universally accepted as the just equivalent of the Arabic... yet evidence of the erroneous character of the Barlow translation has been in the archives of the Department of State since perhaps 1800 or thereabouts..."[19]

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/20/2008 10:56:01 PM

    Comment: Like when mccain said in his own book "ambition was my reason for running for president"...2002 is that out of context?

  • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/20/2008 9:39:54 PM

    Comment: Obama distorting someone record? I thought he was "Above" that.

  • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 5:56:38 PM

    Comment: Change????????????????????????????

    I guess that mean't whats left of your paycheck AFTER TAXES???????

  • Posted By: ljw54321 @ 08/20/2008 2:55:12 PM

    Comment: neocon...Clinton created 13 million jobs, GW Bush about 4.5 million. Clinton created a general feeling of well being among working Americans. There were higher taxes AND greater prosperity. Clinton's 100,000 cops on the street helped lower crime (remember how bad it was under GHW Bush). Cutbacks in police by GW Bush and the Republicans have caused crime to increase again. McCain's just another country club rich guy who's out of touch with 95% of the American people.

  • Posted By: ljw54321 @ 08/20/2008 2:45:20 PM

    Comment: thanks for debunking the ad. the question remains: what will McCain do to help the average American citizen? tax breaks for the rich. continuing war and international instability fomented by McCain's aggressive, belligerant foreign policy, continuing America's dependence on foreign oil, more lies and corruption. The relevant question is: "is our country better off after 8 years of Republican rule?". If you like war, financial meltdown, aloofness to issues affecting middle class Americans, etc. etc. vote Republican. Remember GW Bush was going to fix social security, restore respectability to the white house, stimulate the economy, etc. ect. He failed miserably. Now McCain wants a followup.

  • Posted By: repub4obama @ 08/20/2008 12:18:56 PM

    Comment: Yeah McBush is clueless on alot more than the economy. He's pretty much a senile old fool who has sold out all his integrity and beliefs and went to the dark side, the right wing conservative whack jobs.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 1:39:16 PM

      Comment: And your so clueless your oblivious to the fact you have no idea whats going on. LOL At first I thought you were a tool. I apologize, your are a fool. How dumb can one be to think they have insider info of the workings of congress and war because of a Newsweek add. LMAO You do understand the press only knows what our government wants them to know, right? LOL

  • Posted By: BobbyNY @ 08/20/2008 10:45:47 AM

    Comment: Why is everyone so concerned about John McCain's status as a POW? Was he the only one that was shot down and tortured? Was he the only one that was offered a deal to leave and stayed? The answer to this question is NO. Hundreds of pilots were shot down and went through the same event he did. What he did was not unusual, we are all trained to react the same way. While we admire John McCain's service to his country, let's not forget the hundreds of pilots who were not shot down and did their jobs. Keep things in perspective, while he emerged from his encounter bruised, braver men did not make it out. I was there.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 1:30:09 PM

      Comment: Well I guess you could apply the same thought process to a soldier that was killed in combat huh? What make him so special. Hundreds of thousands have sacrificed their lives for this country in the past. Sounds pretty damn stupid doesn't it? Now read your own post and tell me how dumb you sound.

      And BTW, all the above, Barack wasn't and Barack didn't. Atleast McCain did, means nothing to you? Barack sat in the pews giving standing ovations to GOD DAMN AMERIKKKA!!!! Means nothing to you either, says a ton about you.

      • Posted By: ljw54321 @ 08/20/2008 3:06:03 PM

        Comment: And GW Bush was hiding behind his daddy's influence, while John Kerry was fighting in swift boats. If wartime service to country is important to you, did you vote for John Kerry or gutless Bush?

        • Posted By: bojack27 @ 08/21/2008 11:13:49 AM

          Comment: Bill Clinton was a draft dodger who claimed that he lost his draft card.....hmmm sounds like a young Bill Clinton who hadn't master the lie yet..... fast forward to ..... "I didn't have sexual relationships with that woman and now we know the rest o fthe story.... ... I'm pretty sure you voted for him two times......

          Speaking of turn-coat Kerry... selling out his former buddies and throwing away his medals..... the only fault witht he swiftboats is that htey didn't come in sooner to show that this guy hated the military like Clinton and would do anything to destroy that department.....

        • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 5:53:41 PM

          Comment: Im sorry, did you just answer my questions? Or did you basically agree with me because I see no part of your post that denys or refutes any of my allegations.

  • Posted By: BobbyNY @ 08/20/2008 10:38:14 AM

    Comment: Why is everyone making such a big deal about McCain and his POW status? Was he the only one there? Was he the only one that was offered a deal to leave and chose to stay? The answers to this question is NO. Hundreds of POW's faced the same decisions and responded the same way he did. Why is he the only one considered a hero? Let's take a look at all the other pilots that were shot down and suffered, and take a bigger look at the ones who were skilful enough to do their jobs and NOT get shot down. Put this in perspective. John McCain did not do anything extraordinary, he just did his job. Yes, his service to his country is appreciated, but there are thousands more who suffered greater than he did, and some never made it out. Let's not forget that. I was also one of the lucky ones.

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 08/20/2008 10:24:40 AM

    Comment: WHERE ARE YOU CHECKING MCCAINS LIES AND DISTORTIONS. JUST BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE NOT TO BRING THEM UP DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE NOT THERE.

    One big difference here on this fact check. OBAMA DID NOT LIE. The comments he used may be old BUT THEY ARE THE TRUTH.

    MOST OF MCCAINS ARE LIES. THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

    SHOVE YOUR OPINION AND TELL US THE FACTS. START TALKING THUTH AND LIES AND SAVE YOUR OPINION. YOU ARE TRYING TO PUT YOUR OPINION OUT AS FACT. AND THAT IS JUST PLAIN BULL

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/20/2008 5:42:40 PM

      Comment: Sounds like Obama is not real change after all as I have been constantly hearing from Obamabots.

      Distortion:

      Falsified reproduction of a speakers original words in a manner in which it warps the true meaning of the said speaker???s message she or he communicated.

      Change - WE are THE ONES WE have been waiting for. . . .


    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 1:41:04 PM

      Comment: I guess your not tired of LIES at all huh? Just McCain lies? LMAO Okay, we understand that from every post you've ever made. Now we have that cleared up, DENOUCE OBAMA"S LIES ANYTIME!!!! LOL

  • Posted By: gobbledegook @ 08/20/2008 8:29:39 AM

    Comment: Star Trek's Mr Spock sez, tax breaks for the few must be sacrificed for the interests of the many.

  • Posted By: metzlerd @ 08/20/2008 6:37:12 AM

    Comment: Come on Newsweek. This is a pretty poor factcheck.
    A) The remarks were not out of context.
    B) McCain said them, not last year, but this year in this campaign.
    Is he to get excused because he was in the Republican primary? Does that not count?
    Are you saying that he's said other things more recently, so what he said before doesn't count?

    At the very least, call him out for flipping on the economy then.

    c) The reality is even if he has talked about things being tough, he was saying that the economy is fine. He did not understand the concept that high gas prices ripple throughout the economy.
    The economy was essentially bad in January like it is bad now. Most of us felt it then as we do now.
    (Unless we're insulated from it by over $100,000,000 as McCain is.)

    His economic advisor called us a nation full of whiners.

    You can't just pretend that McCain has always understood our economic situation. You can't just pretend he didn't say those things.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 1:34:20 PM

      Comment: Please TRY to hold your candidate to the same standards you expect of mine. As far a economy goes, ask an expert what we need to deem the economy in a recession. Do some reaserch instead of repeating what your told to think. I look forward to you responding to my question and then retracting your above statement about a recession. If you have the sac to admit your dead wrong.

      • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/20/2008 5:55:01 PM

        Comment: I guess you didn't

  • Posted By: topcat2001 @ 08/20/2008 12:33:54 AM

    Comment: Lee,
    while I agree that often it is useful to rely on third parties for more data I think one must also use one's own common sense in looking at the conclusions. If we spend $100 billion in Iraq in 2009 and $100 billion in Afghanistan in 2009 to keep the Taliban out then we will have to do that. That constitutes $200billion in total. If we pull out of Iraq then we only spend $100 billion. Unless you are saying that we are not currently spending enough in Afghanistan because of all the money going to Iraq.
    It is important to recognize that Obama isnt saying we will wipeout deficits anytime soon. Our monthly deficit was around $100 billion last month and that is not going to magically disappear. But shaving $10 billion a month is a significant reduction to it.


    • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/20/2008 12:01:28 PM

      Comment: Ah,but porkbarrel spending even divorced from my earlier reply to METZLERD will consume all and more of such a savings,and as we saw,spending in these other areas to keep the US out of another war deemed ''unneccesary''will consume more than even this.

  • Posted By: love234america @ 08/19/2008 10:29:57 PM

    Comment: lies, lies, lies, lies, lies......that is Barack Hussein Obama in a nutshell. I do believe this man is someone no one knows; is he a sleeper? Thee is a good chance that he is; he spent most of his youth (when one is very impressionable and brainwashed easily) in Muslim Indonesia and his step father with who he lived was radical as is his brother who ls in Kenya; his father was also a radical and had a Muslim funeral. He does not like white; and Howard Dean said on NationalPublic Radio last Friday that the white party (he meant Republican Party).....and then he corrected himself. Obama scares the hell out of me and my friends and relatives. He is bad for America and would not be able to successfully answer that 3 a.m. call. If he does become president (God forbid), please give the phone to his V.P.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/20/2008 4:13:19 AM

      Comment: you are paranoid because you believe anyone who is a muslim is a radical. Obama is not a muslim, his father was atheistic when Obama was born. his step father was marginally muslim. Obama's half-brother may be a radical muslim, but that would have nothing to do with Obama because they weren't raised together. Yours and others closedmindedness scares the hell out of me.

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/19/2008 7:15:28 PM

    Comment: Dunno. The nonpartisan Brookings Institutes Tax Policy Center,Urban Institute and the Congressional Budget Office are all viewing Obama and McCains tax plans with suspicion,particularly,Obamas,as he has thus far been unable to explain how he can keep taxation for the ''250-plus''crowd from descending into a smaller wage tax bracket in order to finance his cherished healthcare reform.[and without oversight to boot. MEDICARE is leaking billions to fraud as it is]. ''Big Win,Small Change''says the Tax Policy Center. It regards Obamas ''peace dividend''as a result of an Iraq pullout as nonsense. Other military and foreign policy requirements [foreign aid],to offset American involvement in future wars and conflicts divorced from Afghanistan will consume this ''dividend''without addressing healthcare or Social Security. Worse for Obama,he is viewed as a protectionist after the NAFTA and CAFTA debacles[which will create more international trade tensions], and is thus viewed as hostile to free trade upon which much American business and employment relies. The last trip to a Democrat Congress dominated by socialist policies and a ''change''advocate,and in the middle of an energy crisis,brought us Carter,double-digit inflation,and high unemployment with degraded infrastructure and a vastly weakened military post Vietnam. Obama will have to chart a more careful course if he is not to repeat the failure that,only six years after the disgrace of the Republican Nixon presidency,brought forth the Reagan Revolution.

    • Posted By: metzlerd @ 08/20/2008 7:11:08 AM

      Comment: A) The 250K plus crowd is not going to try to cut their income to avoid paying taxes unless they're right on the edge. If you make $300K, You simply aren't going to give up $45,000, just to say you didn't have to pay $5,000 in taxes.
      B) Obama has never said there isn't going to be oversight.
      C) In order for there to not be a peace divident, we would have to find other countries to drop bombs on, send troops into, and fire ammunition at. During peace time we stock pile this things, and use a small amount on training.
      Replacing our leadership with somebody who only uses war in defense of our country will go a long way toward increasing the liklihood of peace.
      D) NAFTA which was negotiated by George H.W. Bush and implemented by Clinton, needs to be renegotiated. It has cost us jobs in many parts of our country. Globalization (free world market) is not a bad thing as long as the markets are fair. We can't make progress on environmental or energy issues without fair markets. Companies are taking advantage of this, and American workers are unable to compete because of it.
      This is not only an economic disaster, but its a security threat as we become more and more dependent on foreign products.
      E) The last trip to a Democrat (Clinton) got us a balanced budget where we actually were able to pay off some of our national debt. These are not socialist policies. They are American policies. We don't have to put people out of work to be American. Carter is not the one who brought on high gas prices and runaway inflation in the 70's. He's just the guy who got blamed for it.
      Furthermore Carter is the guy who had a handle on energy solutions. It is precisely because we went back to oil as our focus, that energy crisis was never solved. Had we continued on that path, we probably wouldn't be looking at $5/gallon gas today.

      • Posted By: neocon @ 08/20/2008 2:23:01 PM

        Comment: The sole Clinton administration action that contributed to the reduction of the deficit was raising $28 billion in new taxes and user fees in 1994--but spending on the Los Angeles earthquake and the Midwest floods ate up an unplanned $11 billion. That spending was added to the deficit under current budget rules, giving the administration a net of $17 billion in deficit reduction because of policy changes.

        In short, the drop in the deficit was largely because of the surging economic recovery, which saw two strong quarters of growth just before Bill Clinton took office, and from overestimates of the cost of cleaning up the S&L debacle.

        The Office of Management and Budget, headed by Alice Rivlin, saw the deficit bottoming out at $168 billion in 1995 and then rising to $184 billion in 1996 and $194 billion in 1997, according to the now-famous memo by Rivlin. By 2000, it would reach $235 billion. (The CBO estimate at this point is even higher--$257 billion.)

        From there, OMB estimates that the deficit would climb to $285 billion in the year 2004. (The CBO says $397 billion). OMB then projected a deficit of $456 billion in the year 2010, $1.5 trillion in 2020, and $4.1 trillion in 2030.

        So, in short the Clinton Deficit Reduction was all smoke and mirrors using the Gov't's own numbers.

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/20/2008 11:58:43 AM

        Comment: You are missing the point. A:

        If heathcare reform cannot be financed on the backs of the 250-plus crowd,then it will be upon the backs of the 249-and-unders. This is a fact quickly grasped by non-partisan economics watchers of both campaigns.[including all of the above].

        B. He never said that there would be either,thus maintaining the status quo. Do you wish to provide the Congressional Budget Offices figures on MEDICARE fraud in just the past two fiscal years[Democrat control of Congress],or should I?
        www.cbo.gov

        C. If this were so,we would have had more arms at the end of the Cold War,not fewer. You forget that the cost of STAYING out of war is as much as entering into one to begin with. Diplomacy,trade treaties,arms deals,food and other commodities,peacekeeping missions,police and other non-military anti-terrorism devices,spying,[including satellites], all cost money and lots of it. hundreds of billions will be spent in order to keep the US out of another war. Even minus Iraq,there will be no ''dividend''.

        D. False. NAFTA has provided a net-gain of jobs in America when taken in whole.[US Dept.of Labor statistics,1999-2006],Companies that would bear undue taxation under an Obama policy would,precisely like the top-bottom Democrat-run California[barring only its chief executive who no longer has veto power],see companies flee and set up shop overseas or in other states. You cannot have it both ways,demanding that American companies remain in America,and then punishing these with onerous taxation as Obama proposes,separating companies,as we saw earlier,into ''good''and ''bad''ones. Markets do not move on such social philosophies. The idea that this is a ''security threat''is ridiculous. As the economic giant Thomas Friedman accurately observed in ''The World Is Flat'', globalization,in its capacity to lift all boats,shrinks poverty which is a very basis for the creation of conflict and terrorism.

        E. Yet Clinton worked alongside of a Congress dominated by the GOP. Your blueprint is thus in error. Only Carter gave us the last full presidency with a Democrat-dominated government which wrecked the economy so badly,that Democrats worked alongside of Reagan to bring America the 1986 tax reform act after dozens of American companies jumped ship and headed for Japan and Brazil[of went under after a century or more of existance], due to the socialist tax policies of the Carter presidency.[thus blame can be laid for much of the economic upheaval of this period on this presidency]. Obviously,Carters only ''handle''on the energy crisis was to show up wearing a sweater,and give America ''Malaise''speeches.[while OPEC tightened its grip,and Detroit kept rolling out big-block V-8s].

        www.labor.gov

        • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/20/2008 12:07:04 PM

          Comment: Errata: Insert ''Milton''Friedman [globalization advocate],for ''Thomas''[who was the author of ''The World Is Flat''a study of globalization].

  • Posted By: sanrioscenario @ 08/19/2008 6:08:27 PM

    Comment: Monday night, Fox News Channel aired the first of two presidential candidate documentaries called "Character and Conduct." First up: Barack Obama, whose documentary pretends really hard that it's not full of stereotypes and insinuations! Couldn't stomach it Monday evening? We've got it for you in a minute: http://www.236.com/news/2008/08/19/fox_news_obama_documentary_in_8367.php

    • Posted By: thetruthseeker2008 @ 08/19/2008 6:23:19 PM

      Comment: Ahhh, the Daily Kos and Ariana would be proud. Fox may not be always "balanced" but, liberals just can't take it that there is only ONE source of opinions that don't make Obama everyone's darlinig of the Internet ... funny thing is there is a reason why Fox dominates all news sources. Because all news sources are more like the National Enquirer than the "news" anymore. I can't wait for the NY Times to enjoy the fruits of the same labor that MSNBC faces, what a joke in a minute, haha

      • Posted By: metzlerd @ 08/20/2008 9:14:21 AM

        Comment: Even MSNBC is more Fair and Balanced by a long shot than FOX where it is just one big commercial for people that view lying as simply an accepted tactic. They make up the news based on whatever they are told by the Republicans or the Bush administration, and even after it is debunked they continue.

        There are no excuses.

        • Posted By: thetruthseeker2008 @ 08/20/2008 1:11:59 PM

          Comment: Look at the headlines. MSNBC is going completely "left." LIke they were not already. Their parent company NBC has been doing a great job of that. Let's say that you actually believe (which you do) that Fox leans right. Well if that was the case, IT IS THE ONLY OUTLET THAT DOES. Why do you think they kick everyone's butt including MSNBC by 10 fold! Anyway, MSNBC today revealed that they just kicked out their final and only conservative (right or whatever you want to call them) opinionist. So now it can be 24/7 Oberman & Company, Woo hoo!

  • Posted By: ceecee34 @ 08/19/2008 5:28:31 PM

    Comment: The real distortion is in McCain's ads, for instance saying that Obama would raise taxes for thoses earning $42,000 or more--when Obama's plan calls for tax REDUCTIONS for those earning less than $150,000 and increases ONLY for incomes greater than $250,000 That's more than a distortion. That's an incredibly misleading lie. (The $250,000 gate also holds for any increase in dividends or capital gains taxes as well. 95% of Americans are NOT impacted.) Where is Newsweek on reporting McCain's lies and distortions?

    • Posted By: thetruthseeker2008 @ 08/19/2008 5:42:11 PM

      Comment: So you are saying that the 5% that pay 90% of the taxes in the U.S. (business owners and people that have worked hard to make it) are responsible for socialistic redistribution of wealth? I got news for ya. Those that make money will take it off shore and know how to work around the system. And businesses will close making it harder for your $42K wage earner to work when they are unemployment. The Dems have road the power wagon on the backs of the middle class and poor for years to stay in power while they jet off in private planes and limos touting "green america." Americans are finally waking up. The ONLY reason Obama exists is because of Bush botching the White House. I can't wait until the Dems have the White House, Senate, and House (right now 9% approval rating). Where is the balance of power and checks and balances? It's time for a 3rd party. Enough of the Democraps bullcrap.

      • Posted By: metzlerd @ 08/20/2008 11:22:26 AM

        Comment: The top 5% does not pay even 90% of the taxes.
        They are down around 40%, and that is only if you're counting income tax.

        If you are talking capital gains the top 3% (200K and up) pay about 80% of the Capital gains tax collected, but that's not surprising since only 8% of people who make less than 75K even have any Capital Gain income at all. X% of $0 is still $0.

        If you are talking Social Security, it's even less true.

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/19/2008 6:15:19 PM

        Comment: Spoken like a true ignoramous. The country was never better under the last democrat - Clinton - and we even had a budget SURPLUS. Can you imagine that?

        Why do you think the "5% who pay 90% of the taxes" (according to you) would be involved in wealth redistribution? We live in a Republic - a Democracy - not a communist state. You don't have to worry. But our tax system is designed to pay for a war that 90% of the people DON'T WANT - so how do you justify that? We get so little for our taxes, it's quite shocking.

        I guess you're part of the McCrass upper class of bourgeois bigots who thinks anything left of the Far Right is "communist" or you're afraid that a Black man as our leader will take us down that path. Why don't you go do some research and educate yourself. For someone living in the "greatest country in the world' you sure have a long ways to go.

        • Posted By: busby @ 08/20/2008 8:30:39 AM

          Comment: Right, and all you and your ilk have done is bash him, his wife, his policies and his private life. You denigrate the good he has done since leaving office and castigate him for the money he has earned yet, at the same time, you make excuses for the questionable associations of Obama and anything else Obama related. So, you are a hypocrite and a fool and, if Obama becomes prez, are you in for a shock when utopia doesn't materialize because it can't. And that's because of imperfect human nature which I assume includes you.

        • Posted By: thetruthseeker2008 @ 08/19/2008 6:38:45 PM

          Comment: Hey genius, not that it's your business but I AM black. Who the hell are you to tell me about race? Clinton did well under a REPUBLICAN congress. And our Country was heading into a recession when he turned over the reins to Bush. Bush was a screw up. No doubt. And I am not Republican. But I will not have an ignorant discussion about this. Obama is a pupet. But you won't understand this. I am of color. And if you are brown, black, white, who cares? Actually a Woman should have been the nominee for your Party.

  • Posted By: tomsoppe @ 08/19/2008 5:14:12 PM

    Comment: McCain has been distorting the facts for months. McCain still thinks what Obama quoted him as saying.

    This partisan article is just more pro-GOP bias from the mainstream media, the same bias that fooled people into voting for a horrible president in 2000 and 2004. Don't let it happen again.

  • Posted By: thetruthseeker2008 @ 08/19/2008 5:07:44 PM

    Comment: That's because the Democrats are so hell bent and power hungry to take over every element in Washington that they will do whatever and say whatever they need to and get it done. Obama has viciously attacked everyone in his own party from Hiliary to his own comrades in Chicagoland to get them thrown out and off the ticket. This man and machine is as corrupt as Chicago politics. Bush only wishes he could be as crafty as the money laundering capital of the U.S. But the election is not about Bush as much as the Dems would like it to be. The Manchurian Candidate, I mean Obama will rep the Dems well in their Power hungry agenda. Seek and destroy is their mission. Yet it is portrayed as such a "love fest" that people deserve what they elect. You want to elect someone that is great on a teleprompter, great at rallies, and good on YouTube without the qualifications, Go ahead morons! I think no one should be allowed to vote without knowing the facts and the issues. You certainly can't get that from most media soundbite sources cuz they just want the headline and not the facts.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/20/2008 4:16:32 AM

      Comment: newsflash for you truth, both parties are hell bent and power hungry. that is the nature of politics.

  • Posted By: thetruthseeker2008 @ 08/19/2008 5:07:23 PM

    Comment: That's because the Democrats are so hell bent and power hungry to take over every element in Washington that they will do whatever and say whatever they need to and get it done. Obama has viciously attacked everyone in his own party from Hiliary to his own comrades in Chicagoland to get them thrown out and off the ticket. This man and machine is as corrupt as Chicago politics. Bush only wishes he could be as crafty as the money laundering capital of the U.S. But the election is not about Bush as much as the Dems would like it to be. The Manchurian Candidate, I mean Obama will rep the Dems well in their Power hungry agenda. Seek and destroy is their mission. Yet it is portrayed as such a "love fest" that people deserve what they elect. You want to elect someone that is great on a teleprompter, great at rallies, and good on YouTube without the qualifications, Go ahead morons! I think no one should be allowed to vote without knowing the facts and the issues. You certainly can't get that from most media soundbite sources cuz they just want the headline and not the facts.

  • Posted By: mmarlow @ 08/19/2008 4:59:19 PM

    Comment: I saw that ad and the January date is in text right below his face as you hear him speak. Whats misleading about that you idiots? I guess we need to fact check you guys. Please go take a look and then e,mail me and tell me I was right and your were wrong!!!!!!

  • Posted By: mmarlow @ 08/19/2008 4:57:17 PM

    Comment: I saw that ad and the January date is in text right below his face as you hear him speak. Whats misleading about that you idiots? I guess we need to fact check you guys. Please go take a look and then e,mail me and tell me I was right and your were wrong!!!!!!

  • Posted By: topcat2001 @ 08/19/2008 4:35:38 PM

    Comment: SorryIT Dan. I shouldnt have let your secret gay tendencies come out like this. How about this? I'll take care of your wife and show her what a real man is like while you go find my non existent bf along with your Republican friend Larry Craig. And since you implied McCain is gay too which wouldnt surprise me since after spending all that time with the boys in Vietnam he couldnt get it up with his wife when he came back.

  • Posted By: LT Dan @ 08/19/2008 4:23:09 PM

    Comment: Yea guess your right topcat2001. If you walked in and saw McCain on top of your boyfriend, you would blame Bush.

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 08/19/2008 4:22:15 PM

    Comment: This bugs me factcheck.

    WHERE ARE YOU CHECKING MCCAINS LIES AND DISTORTIONS. JUST BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE NOT TO BRING THEM UP DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE NOT THERE.

    One big difference here on this fact check. OBAMA DID NOT LIE. The comments he used may be old BUT THEY ARE THE TRUTH.

    MOST OF MCCAINS ARE LIES. THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

    SHOVE YOUR OPINION AND TELL US THE FACTS. START TALKING THUTH AND LIES AND SAVE YOUR OPINION. YOU ARE TRYING TO PUT YOUR OPINION OUT AS FACT. AND THAT IS JUST PLAIN BULL

    • Posted By: lbebout1 @ 08/19/2008 9:06:18 PM

      Comment: Obama's own website Fight the Smears uses factcheck.org to prove that he isn't the one lying. They have gotten information both ways.

      • Posted By: metzlerd @ 08/20/2008 7:32:03 AM

        Comment: A factcheck is not accurate because it says it is. It is accurate when it is able to point out falsehoods and show why they are false.
        The lies about Obama are not lies because somebody says they are. They are lies because they are based off of falsehoods. When factcheck.org says Obama is not a Muslim and points out that he was baptised in a Christian church, that shows that somebody lied.

        When factcheck.org points out that Obama could not have been the reason for high gas prices precisely because he was not in Washington when those gas prices started rising, that points out a lie.

        When factcheck.org says that McCain is being distorted because his comments on the economy were from January and this is August, that doesn't really say much at all. He is still in the same contest he was in January. The economy was bad in January as it is now. If McCain is starting to change his tune now, that is more likely to do with polls than any sudden epiphany on the economy.

        Regardless, McCain said what he said during this race, and it was not distorted at all..

  • Posted By: topcat2001 @ 08/19/2008 4:20:08 PM

    Comment: Dude IT Dan - this is from a very conservative newspaper like the Washington post. You will believe what you will because you have already made up your mind for whatever reason. If you walked in and saw McCain on top of your wife, you will be complaining that Obama was to blame.

    • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/19/2008 6:50:56 PM

      Comment: The Washington Post is not a conservative newspaper. It is centrist. None of its following chief columnists and reporters is a conservative.

      Dana Milbank
      Gene Washington
      Dana Priest
      David Ignatius
      Tina Brown
      Michelle Singleterry
      Colbert King[Editorial Board]
      David Broder
      E J Dionne
      Anne Kornblut

      These few contributors are:

      Charles Krauthammer
      George Will




      • Posted By: topcat2001 @ 08/19/2008 11:46:06 PM

        Comment: Agreed Lee. The Post is more centrist than conservative. I think traditional would have been the best word here on hindsight.

  • Posted By: LT Dan @ 08/19/2008 4:18:24 PM

    Comment: Liberal + America Haters + Soros + Hollywood = Barry Obama

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/19/2008 6:19:02 PM

      Comment: Hey - Bring it on, it would sure be an improvement from this:

      Republican + Liberal Bashers + Rove + Fox News + two-term failed Presidency (Bush) = McCrass, the leader of the class of bourgeois bigots.

  • Posted By: LT Dan @ 08/19/2008 4:11:53 PM

    Comment: topcat2001 congrats those are great references what happened to the Enquirer quotes of McCain getting money from those darn Star Trek Vulcans. Barry will never win!

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 08/19/2008 4:11:46 PM

    Comment: Again, what FactCheck did NOT point out is that what Obama said WAS THE TRUTH IT MAY BE DATED BUT IT WAS TRUTHFUL.

    IN CONTRAST, MCCAIN ACTUALLY LIES AND FACTCHECK LETS MOST OF THAT GO.

  • Posted By: topcat2001 @ 08/19/2008 4:06:13 PM

    Comment: You selfish Arab c*ck suckin Republican wimps cannot fool America again.
    Most of McCain's money comes from Arab financiers and oil companies
    His top fundraiser says
    "I have a lot of Arab business partners. I do a lot of business in the Middle East. I've got a lot of friends," Sargeant said in a telephone interview yesterday. "I ask my friends to support candidates that I think are worthy of supporting. They usually come through for me."
    Bundler Collects From Unlikely Donors
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/06/AR2008080602485.html

    Jordanian businessman linked to McCain donations
    http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/08/07/america/mccain.php

    McCain is a gambler who calls his wife a C*nt and volunteers her for wet t-*** contests to get a few contests
    http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/01/mccain-in-the-membrane/
    McCain has a severe gambling problem
    http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/07/06/john-mccain-s-gambling-problem.aspx
    Not to mention cheating on both his wives
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html
    Only pathetic c*ck suckin Republicans like you can call this guy a patriot. We all know you gay haters are the biggest c*ck suckers like Larry Craig.

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/19/2008 3:59:00 PM

    Comment: This particular form of dishonesty is known as ''Dowdification'',made [in]famous by its inventor,New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd,who took the parsley off a plate of the meat and potatoes of a remark/remarks and hacked it into pieces,or turned around sentances in order to achieve the desired effect.[outrage,if leveled at a Republican,knowing nods,if directed at a Democrat,at least until she began her catfight with Clinton].

  • Posted By: captdeep6 @ 08/19/2008 3:56:27 PM

    Comment: Let's abolish the IRS and adopt the FAIRTAX Act proposed by Congressman John Linder.. Abolish the IRS and pay a national sales tax instead. Go to FairTax.org for more information. Which ever candidate stands behind getting this act into law gets my vote. Obama doesn't know what it is and McCain doesn't like the FairTax. WHY??? You Bums better listen. America is tired of government taking our hard earned money & squandering it. You think a million man march was bad. We need a million man march with ropes to descend on washington to make you idiots listen and hang the one's that don't! If I don't perform well at my job I'd get fired and wouldn't get paid. Maybe if congress and the senate didn't get paid they'd listen up.

    • Posted By: metzlerd @ 08/20/2008 8:41:03 AM

      Comment: "Maybe if the Senate and Congress didn't get paid..."
      - Yeah right! Who do you think sets their pay?
      I'm not saying I disagree with that, but... not likely.

      I think congress and the senate need to change the rules for getting things done that essentially makes it easier to get things done even if those things are bad things. Right now it's to easy to get gridlocked. Lets face it. Take abortion:
      The pro-lifers want to strip the mother of all power to make decisions about her own health and the health of her child. They want to legislate morality all in the name of treating a single cell as a human individual with human rights because that cell might develop into a human. Why? Because birth is a miracle of god.

      The pro-choicers don't see things the same way, and believe no one has the right to take decision away from the mother. Choices like that should be left between the parents and God.

      The truth is those two sides will never agree, and many politicians use that to get nothing done. It is better that they not be able to stop things from getting done, and focus on making what does get done as good as possible.

      Unfortunately I'm at a loss as to how to do that.

  • Posted By: Use your brain @ 08/19/2008 3:54:15 PM

    Comment: Instead of all of us choosing to believe that there is a good side and a bad side, let's hold our senators and congress people to task. They are treating all of us like idiots. Of course, we let them.

    What is wrong with our society is that we believe government control and involvement is the cure. It is NOT! It is not the man or woman who is president, but the people who vote these people into their positions. Have we not learned from our own history?

  • Posted By: LT Dan @ 08/19/2008 3:50:02 PM

    Comment: The Messiah Obama will lead us out of the wilderness....right into a pit of alligators! He will start the second term of Jimmy Carter again allowing the USA to be the world's doormat.

  • Posted By: doclolly @ 08/19/2008 3:48:13 PM

    Comment: If McCain said, "There's been great progress economically" he is dreaming. Gas was already up, housing was in a crisis, two banks were in finanicial straights, and McCain had his photo taken with Bush. Also, the debt of the USA is sky high. McCain must be one of the good old boys; I do mean good old boys.

  • Posted By: hitchhiker @ 08/19/2008 3:47:39 PM

    Comment: I believe that McCain is doing the same thing as Obama, one thing right off the bat that erks me is McCain telling the veterans how much nicer it is in the VA hospital under the bush administration and would continue under his administration is baloney...McCain has never in his life has had to navigate this health care system we have now ...talk about a STAR is Born that's McCain... he has no empathy for the vet's....

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 08/19/2008 3:47:38 PM

    Comment: This bugs me factcheck.

    WHERE ARE YOU CHECKING MCCAINS LIES AND DISTORTIONS. JUST BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE NOT TO BRING THEM UP DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE NOT THERE.

    One big difference here on this fact check. OBAMA DID NOT LIE. The comments he used may be old BUT THEY ARE THE TRUTH.

    MOST OF MCCAINS ARE LIES. THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

    SHOVE YOUR OPINION AND TELL US THE FACTS. START TALKING THUTH AND LIES AND SAVE YOUR OPINION. YOU ARE TRYING TO PUT YOUR OPINION OUT AS FACT. AND THAT IS JUST PLAIN BULL

  • Posted By: captdeep6 @ 08/19/2008 3:43:48 PM

    Comment: I'd rather have McCain in office than have to pay higher taxes. Obama will bankrupt this nation. LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD! Speak up about the FAIRTAX ACT. A National sales tax where everyone pays their fair share of taxes. DOWN WITH THE IRS!!!! Inact the FAIRTAX and never have to file taxes again!!! GO to FAIRTAX.ORG FOR MORE INFORMATION>

    • Posted By: AnnapolisMD @ 08/19/2008 4:20:14 PM

      Comment: captdeep6 @ 08/19/2008 3:43:48 PM stated "I'd rather have McCain in office than have to pay higher taxes."

      You are kidding right? If you put McCain in office, there will be no end to the $9billion we are paying to prosecute a needless war (http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aairaqwarcost.htm).

      Get real will you? You are paying now, and will be paying hugely in the future for the mistakes McCain and his ilk have made.

      Use your brain and vote the screwups out before it is really too late.

    • Posted By: AnnapolisMD @ 08/19/2008 4:18:22 PM

      Comment: captdeep6 @ 08/19/2008 3:43:48 PM stated "I'd rather have McCain in office than have to pay higher taxes."

      You are kidding right? If you put McCain in office, there will be no end to the $9billion we are paying to prosecute a needless war (http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aairaqwarcost.htm).

      Get real will you? You are paying now, and will be paying hugely in the future for the mistakes McCain and his ilk have made.

      Use your brain and vote the screwups out before it is really too late.

  • Posted By: doclolly @ 08/19/2008 3:42:54 PM

    Comment: McCain said in April 2008 there had been great progress economically. He must have asked Bush to get that answer, because we were already in a economic slow down then. Financials were down, home sales were down, and the Euro dollar was up. Bush still says we are in a slow down and McCain is a Bush boy.
    Just one of the good old, and I do mean old, boys.

  • Posted By: lickbush @ 08/19/2008 3:40:11 PM

    Comment: Oh thats right the economy was in awsome shape last January with no indications of a recession. Besides W said just 4 days ago "America does not have any problems." Fact Check that.

  • Posted By: flacats @ 08/19/2008 3:36:36 PM

    Comment: Why dont you fact check the blatant lies that McCain and his surrocates have said about Obama?

  • Posted By: LT Dan @ 08/19/2008 3:32:19 PM

    Comment: If McCain is old and soon to be senile, what about Senators Ted "Hicup" Kennedy and Robert "KKK" Byrd. They are the liberal standard bearers for the Dumbocrats and are even older than McCain. Shouldn't they be put out to pasture?

    • Posted By: Teyem_Anon @ 08/19/2008 9:35:20 PM

      Comment: Are they running for president too? If not, then what exactly is the point you are trying to make?

  • Posted By: john MT @ 08/19/2008 3:29:56 PM

    Comment: well, yes, the quotes Obama ad uses from McCain are old and dated, but it shows 1) like the current administration McCain didn't foresee nary a problem with the economy leading to the recent recession, and 2) McCain by his own words doesn't know much about economics. Unless there is evidence that McCain has since learned how the economy works (and we all know you can't teach an old dog new tricks) the use of his words are justified.

  • Posted By: LT Dan @ 08/19/2008 3:29:10 PM

    Comment: If McCain is too old and soon to be senile, what about Senator "Hicup" Kennedy and Senator Robert "KKK" Byrd. The liberal standard bearers are much older. Should they be put out to pasture?

  • Posted By: Charlotte O'Hara @ 08/19/2008 3:26:04 PM

    Comment: Please write a story on how McCain has been defaming Obama especially since Obama's successful European tour ( which the McCain camp turned into a negative). Please write a fact based story....on everything McCain & said & done vs Obama. I think that Obama's ads have not been forceful enough. How come McCain can say & do anything he wants? I suppose Mr. D'Angelo Gore your planning on voting for
    McCain....I thought Newsweek wasn't bias does the FOX organazation owe you too?

  • Posted By: Charlotte O'Hara @ 08/19/2008 3:24:56 PM

    Comment: Please write a story on how McCain has been defaming Obama especially since Obama's successful European tour ( which the McCain camp turned into a negative). Please write a fact based story....on everything McCain & said & done vs Obama. I think that Obama's ads have not been forceful enough. How come McCain can say & do anything he wants? I suppose Mr. D'Angelo Gore your planning on voting for
    McCain....I thought Newsweek wasn't bias does the FOX organazation owe you too?

  • Posted By: timmyzzz @ 08/19/2008 3:05:57 PM

    Comment: McCain is old and soon to be senile. If he isn't already, he should begin repeating phrases from the past soon anyway. I know that no one wants to anger the AARP, but this guy is over-the-hill. Voting for him is like voting for his VP. He'll probably die in office.

  • Posted By: Phil in Tucson @ 08/19/2008 2:59:20 PM

    Comment: You've got to joking; McCain is clueless about the ecconomy and most everything else. It about time the press woke up to this guy; he's basically an idiot. He can't keep his facts straight and blunders daily and here you are trying to imply otherwise?? How about a report on his staffer/ Georgia lobbiest, Phil Gramm and all the other trusted advisor/slime artists?

  • Posted By: Estoban @ 08/19/2008 2:59:00 PM

    Comment: A pox on McCain and Obama. They both stretch truth. But, after all, a judge in Oregon ruled that it was alright for politicians to lie which only recognizes the reality of campaigning.

  • Posted By: ApostasyUSA @ 08/19/2008 2:58:33 PM

    Comment: "uses dated and out of context quotes to portray McCain as clueless on the economy."

    Nice stretch there D'Angelo Gore of FactCehck.org.

    I don't think so "FACT CHECK.org". You tools are looking in the wrong place and the use of the word "dated" IS THE OPINION of Fact Check.org, and whether McCain???s comments were taken out of context IS debatable.

    McCain IS out touch with the economy. McCain has an entire HISTORY of being ignorant on these issues. The Obama campaign could have used MUCH worse quotes.

    April 2008: McCain Backtracks on Gas Tax Fix, Calls Is a "Psychological
    Boost." On "Your World with Neil Cavuto," Senator McCain was questioned about
    the spiking price of oil and his gas tax plan, which has been criticized for
    its efficacy, and was asked whether or not he was concerned that the price of
    gas would spike back up to the amount of the tax. McCain said he was "very
    concerned" about it, but that "psychologically - and a lot of our problems
    today, as you know," he continued, "are psychological." McCain said that
    "it's not a huge amount of money" and called his plan, "a little psychological
    boost." In a speech days earlier Senator McCain had called his plan to
    temporarily suspend federal gas taxes "an immediate economic stimulus." [Your
    World with Neil Cavuto, 4/16/08]

    John McCain has ramped up his fake-populist rhetoric recently, saying that
    helping the people who are struggling to pay their mortgages, fill their gas
    tanks, and put food on the table will be his "first priority in setting the
    economic policies of this nation." [johnmccain.com, accessed 4/17/08]

    Yet at the same time, McCain has said that some of the problems families are
    facing are "psychological." In fact, according to McCain himself, his
    proposal to suspend the gas tax this summer--one of the main focal points of
    his new economic plan--is nothing more than "a little psychological boost."
    [CNN Debate, 1/30/08; Your World with Neil Cavuto, 4/16/08]

    How can McCain possibly help the hard-working families struggling to make ends
    meet when he thinks their problems are just "psychological"?

    Remember:
    The media is only as liberal as the giant corporations that own it.

  • Posted By: Phil in Tucson @ 08/19/2008 2:58:30 PM

    Comment: You've got to joking; McCain is clueless about the ecconomy and most everything else. It about time the press woke up to this guy; he's basically an idiot. He can't keep his facts straight and blunders daily and here you are trying to imply otherwise?? How about a report on his staffer/ Georgia lobbiest, Phil Gramm and all the other trusted advisor/slime artists?

  • Posted By: Estoban @ 08/19/2008 2:57:40 PM

    Comment: A pox on McCain and Obama. They both stretch truth. But, after all, a judge in Oregon ruled that it was alright for politicians to lie which only recognizes the reality of campaigning.