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  • Posted By: adedo500 @ 08/22/2008 3:00:02 AM

    Russia and America are destined two giants among nations; America should learn to acknowledge this.
    America should try as much as possible to stay away from militarising the Eastern European countries that are botrdering Russia, this will be seen as a big threat to Russia and may be very catastrophic.

    • Posted By: adedo500 @ 08/22/2008 3:07:20 AM

      Nobody hates the Americans or America; what all the other nations are afraid of is the America domination.
      America must learn to show understanding at all times, no nation would like America to come and dictate for her. America should lear to see herself as one of the ordinary countries on planet earth.

      • Posted By: Holly Garfield @ 08/22/2008 8:49:04 AM

        And why is ti the US, and not the other countries who must be understanding? Why not insist that ALL countries be understanding? Are you saying that we should LET Russia invade whever they want in the name of understanding? Why do you want the Americans, but not the Russians, to show understanding? Do you chastise America, but not Russia, for dictating to other countries? Is it because you believe that Russia should rule the world, dictating their way like they did to Eastern Europe for the last 50 years? Why do you not chastise Iran for openly wanting to destroy Israel, even to starting a nuclear war for that purpose? Is is because you hate people that were born of a religion which is not yours?

        I chastise YOU for chastising the US, where people for all over the world live in peace, prosperity, equality and mutual respect and NOT chastising the countries who promote nuclear war on another country because of religious differences. I chastise YOU for NOT chastising the Russian government who ruled Eastern Europe with an iron hand behind an iron curtain for decades, and is moving to restart that dominance once again. Shame on YOU for setting the standards for Americans above that of anyone else.

        • Posted By: Braes @ 08/24/2008 8:42:49 AM

          Shame on YOU for setting the standards for Americans above that of anyone else.

          This is the best part... Bush is the one taking our freedoms and rights away. Bush is the one who has destroyed our image. The Republicans did this. We used to have high standards that we occasionally abandoned in dark times.
          The party of personal greed, and corporate welfare, did this. They took our standards down.

        • Posted By: Braes @ 08/24/2008 8:39:37 AM

          Russia didn't invade Ma'am. Russia responded to an MLRS attack. The facts are ugly ugly things. Bush lost control of his pet idiot. Chasitse away... you look rediculous.

        • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/22/2008 10:33:14 AM

          Hon, if you really think that Americans all live in equality and prosperity, you really have a warped view of this country as it stands now. We're getting closer to a police state with every "patriotic" law passed. However, I agree with everything else you said. We're damned if we don't act and damned if we do. Russia's track record isn't very good as far as global trust goes, anyway.

          • Posted By: Holly Garfield @ 08/22/2008 10:56:08 AM

            That equality is under the law, not in every way. Inequality certainly exists, and always will. If I think we have prosperity it is because I see what is going on elsewhere in the world. We are not all Bill Gates, nor should we be. But compared to huge parts of the world's population we are living the life beyond imagination. Our wages may not be keeping up with inflation for now, but the technological advances we have more than make up the difference. Today's middle class children have a life beyond the dreams of my childhood. We have a legal system that will probably phase out the laws that are a reaction to 9/11. These laws are still far more free and just in comparison to huge segments of the world's population. We may be behind the ideal world, but we are far ahead of the rest of the world.

            • Posted By: Braes @ 08/22/2008 1:59:36 PM

              Equality under the law is measured in Dollars. In our system you purchase effective advocacy. Ask O.J.

      • Posted By: pbarosso @ 08/22/2008 3:10:34 AM

        ordinary? lol. people dont flock to "ordinary" countries. "ordinary" countries dont have the opportunities that we have here. maybe you ment to say "extraordinary"

        • Posted By: Master_of_muppets @ 08/22/2008 9:02:04 AM

          Your country bombed Iraq and Afghanistan. How " extraordinary " ehh ? Instead of finding cure for AIDS and cancer, your president spent national budget on artillery shells and bullets. How " astonishing " ehh ?
          Your country has, maybe, the youngest gun-slinging killer in the world : http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sixyearold-girl-shot-dead-in-us-school-721952.html . Yes, " extraordinary" alright .

          • Posted By: Holly Garfield @ 08/22/2008 9:58:56 AM

            Master_of-muppets: I notice that you filter out the facts that make your argument pointless. We invaded Afghanistan after the people in Afghanistan bombed the World Trade Center. Have you forgotten that fact so soon? Or do you wish to only wrongfully bash the US out of hatred? I stated that the people who are against the US hide the whole truth, just as you are doing here. You also neglect to mention that Eastern Eurpoean countries who join NATO have to apply for membership and then fulfill certain requirements before joining. Easter Eurpoean countries who joined the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact did so when battalions of Soviet tanks showed up in their capital's central square. Of course you people who thrive on hate like to forget that Saddam Hussein started a war with Iran, gassed thousands of innocent civilian Kurds, invaded Kuwait without provocation, etc, etc. You people who thrive on hate forget that the suicide bombers and IED planters are knowingly bombing and killing innocent civialians where the US goes to great lengths to try and prevent civian casualties. You people who thrive on hate do not want to acknowledge the damage that your kind does to local populations far, far outweighs the occasional, accidental incidents of the US civilial casualties. You people who thrive on hate find unprovoked attacks on the US are acceptable, but when the US defends itself by hitting back you people who thrive on hate cry like a baby about the US. The US has spent countless billions of dollars to minimize civilian casualties, but you people who thrive on hate go out of your way to CAUSE civilian casualties. You people who thrive on hate try to get the world to hate the US for accidental casualties but want the world to ignore your own bloodlust for killing defenseless women and children. You don't mention this because you are a person who thrives on hate and will hide the truth to wrongfully try to get the rest of the world to descent into your destructive, bloody, hate filled sick little world. The US is the leader is spending money on finding a cure for AIDS and cancer. Iran is spending money on building far more uranium enrichment than they will ever need instead of finding cures for AIDS and cancer, or even feeding their own people, but you people who thrive on hate don't want the wrold to know that, now do you?

            • Posted By: Master_of_muppets @ 08/22/2008 12:20:58 PM

              ... BTW, if Iran is spending on uranium, do you have to bomb them to stop them ? If Saddam is killing his own people, do you have to fly all the way there to bomb them ? Or is there other ways to stop this endless cycle of killing-retaliating-killing ? Would it be a better world if the problem was sorted to its root ?

            • Posted By: Master_of_muppets @ 08/22/2008 12:15:03 PM

              I want love and peace too. I was just pointing out that the US has something better to do if they want to. How about try to listen and understand : Why this anti US wave is happening? Why were you attacked ?
              But before I can say anything, you filed me under the category of those who " ... thrive on hate ... bloodlust for killing defenseless woman and children ". Trust me, I like love and peace as much as you do ...

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/21/2008 7:36:33 PM

    It cannot be stressed enough that these ''tensions''between Russia and Iran are diminishing. A huge oversight on Dickeys portion,who acts as though the Khatemi-Putin summit which brought about Russian technological assistance in constructing the new Iranian Basheur nuclear plant never existed, Furthermore,as evidenced by Russia watchers at PARAMETERS and the Wilson Center,other economic ties between Russia and Iran appear to be strengthening. Russian made arms including diesel submarines,T-72 tanks,and anti-air missle platforms continue to flow from Russia into Iran. Automotive engines and parts from Iran into Russia. Further complicating the hopes of the Dickeysian ''realists''is the presence of what will become a Russian-Iranian ''pre''and ''post''Georgian era of cooperation which as I earlier observed,introduces a foreboding element into the consequences such a relationship can have on both Europe and the Middle East,gambling on the Rise of the Strongmen over that of the Weak Democracies. I will agree that the playing of one of the few ace-sleeve cards remaining to the West is that of the economic,which could either force Russia back to the table,or backfire,as it did in moving Japan further along the road to Imperialism in 1940-41.
    It would do well to closely keep an eye on any new Russian pacts with the Iranians that would tie an oil transfer system between the two countries. Oil for the Rus,guns and tech assistance for the Iranians. An uncomfortable situation all the way around.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 08/24/2008 8:17:42 AM

      Ivan has also been flooding Venezuela, Cuba and Nicaragua with fraternal assistance."

  • Posted By: Holly Garfield @ 08/21/2008 5:50:41 PM

    The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend. We have a three way power play, and Iran is the smallest of the three by far. The country most dependent on Iranian oil is Iran, and the same for Russia. Both have far more fragile economies than the US. War is expensive. This is going to be interesting. The one point we need to look at is that neither Iran nor Russia can afford to slow the flow of oil. Why did Hitler go after the Jews? The real Jewish problem is that the Jews had money and Hitler needed it to run his war. If the German Jews didn't have money would Hitler have gone after them? Russia and Iran will need to keep the flow of oil and gas at maximum to fund their military buildup if the Georgia issue continues. We might be wise to sit this one out.

    The cold war, after we reached MAD, was an economic war. Russia could make guns or butter, the US could make guns AND butter. The tension between Russia and Iran could be an energy boon to those on the sidelines.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 08/24/2008 8:16:01 AM

      We are about 58 trillion in the hole now, ask Warren Buffett. Where are we going to get the money to pay for this misadventure? China? Or are we going to demand Israel pay us to defend them? We give them huge aid now...
      As far as fragile economies, ours isn't exactly running on 8 cylinders.

  • Posted By: yoniari @ 08/22/2008 6:24:11 PM

    The argument that the US should accept a nuclear armed Iran because Iran could be an ally against a resurgent Russia reminds me of the thirties one of the reasons the Western powers justified their appeasement of NAZI Germany was that Germany would ultimately join the West against the USSR.


    We We all know how that turned out

    • Posted By: Braes @ 08/23/2008 7:17:23 PM

      I don't really follow the historical parallels as well as I do the story. Iran will have both a missile and a nuke that can hit Israel within a decade. Their missiles still wont stage. I am scared to death that they will give up on the missile regime and lull us into a false sense of security, and develop alternative means of delivery. I walk the floors at night on this one.

  • Posted By: elwood1955 @ 08/23/2008 4:54:07 AM

    You go Holly! Your arguments are compelling, accurate, and on target.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 08/23/2008 7:08:14 PM

      Oh drivel. Such drivel.

  • Posted By: Holly Garfield @ 08/22/2008 4:35:24 PM

    To Braes: so we had one military advisor with no authority to release weapons. Whoopee. We probably had him there to report back to us on the situation. If we did not send that advisor how would we know what was happening? We have sent provisions for chemical precursors for possible use as a biological weapon. Wow. Arrest every local farmer. Arrest everone who buys a tank of gas. They have the precursors for the Oklahoma City bomb. It's called fertilizer. There is a huge difference between provisions for precursors, which may have legitimate uses, and the actual chemical weapon. Saddam Hussein is the one who turned those provisions for precursors into the final WMD. Getting from provisions for precursors to the final product is not something you cook up in chemistry class. And, as your article points out, it was NOT the US government that sent the provisions for precursors, but private, international companies. No one at all sent actual chemical weapons or agents to Iraq. The Soviet Union, not the US, created and produces the biggest cause of military deaths in history, the AK-47. I notice that you don't go complaining about that. Is that because you find killing with an AK-47 is OK with you? You get your information from your experience in the US military, I get some of mine from my friends who were members of the Iranian, Ukranian, Russian, etc. military. If you wish anyone to believe that you are against violence then you should be aware by now that you need to speak out against violence wherever it is happening. but you won't do that because you want to actively support that violence. If you have been on active duty then you should have seen the violence that exists in these countries before we arrive. That tells me that you are fully aware of not only how others view us, but you also know that the violence you see is a part of something that exists whether the US is there or not. I am sure the military is happy that you are no longer on active duty.

    I am sure you are aware that the US was allied with Stalin in WW II. That means you are aware that the US doesn't always get to pick who our allies are, and don't get to choose how that ally's government is run. You should also know that allies are often a matter of convenience, and conveniences change. We supported Saddam when we found it convenient, then Saddam made sure we found that situation to be no longer convenient. Such is the nature of war. But you know that. You just want us to pretend those thing don't happen.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 08/23/2008 7:05:15 PM

      Lots of quvbble. You can intentionally not get it. We also gave him the real finished deal, and the means to use it. Spend a little more time looking, and a lot less prose.

  • Posted By: TomMarAlem1987 @ 08/21/2008 3:44:21 PM

    Comment: AsSalamu Alaykum:
    Let me tell you the facts. This whole stupid thing of allying with Iran in order to control Russia, and allying with Russia to control Iran does nothing to help the people of the nations. It does marvels for you, but the peoples of those nations shall continue to suffer. When you sanction Iran and cut off business ties to them, the Government does not suffer. It is the people that are made to suffer, they are the ones that starve. They do not care about Democracy or Freedom, they will pander to you in order to get money to provide for the people they need to provide for. They want money, and you are starving the Iranians! You might be wanting for the Iranians to rise up out of hunger and overthrow the Government, if they do, they will have little money to work with and will turn to you, you then "own them." They are simple people who want money to survive and these stupid sanctions are starving them. Sanctions are a weapon, they starve the people!
    Allah guide us all to what is righteous. Ameen


    • Posted By: arashasadi72 @ 08/21/2008 11:31:11 PM

      What are you talking about you piece of ***, who iranians are starving? are you one of *** idian or packis that try to hang around iranians because their dream come true and if they lose this opportunity they must back to home land have to sleep cross street or eat cow *** or hang over trains. Just let me educate you iran is country 70 mln with 350 bln GDP and this value with be triple in next four year, Iran has oil fir next 200 hundered years and gas for next 500 years.

      • Posted By: pbarosso @ 08/22/2008 3:08:28 AM

        why do you have to cal this guy a peice of anything. heck this just shows the rest of us how much of a crazy extremist you are . let me guess; tomorrow you are going to strap on a bomb vest and blow up three kids, a donkey, and a milk factory.

        • Posted By: arashasadi72 @ 08/22/2008 10:16:24 PM

          It seems you piece of *** did not get what am I saying. He he he, You root just came back to 300 years ago
          that means you are just a rootless bastard. Do you want to know my respect to your country then take it, I piss to
          your american flag and your country foundation. See I am not wrong becuase all people can see you as what type of
          output your free society can produce. nothig more that a trash. I am sorry to say but you people do not have any
          dignity just a bunch of killers and murders and deserve no repect so know you can get *** off from my post your
          mother sucker. Get lost....

        • Posted By: arashasadi72 @ 08/22/2008 10:14:52 PM

          It seems you piece of *** did not get what am I saying. He he he, You root just came back to 300 years ago
          that means you are just a rootless bastard. Do you want to know my respect to your country then take it, I piss to your american flag and your country foundation. See I am not wrong becuase all people can see you as what type of output your free society can produce. nothig more that a trash. I am sorry to say but you people do not have any dignity just a bunch of killers and murders and deserve no repect so know you can get *** off from my post your mother sucker. Get lost....

        • Posted By: arashasadi72 @ 08/22/2008 10:11:28 PM

          Comment: oh yeah, do you like it? It seems you piece of *** did not get what am I saying. He he he,
          let me tell you who you are You root just came back to 300 years ago that means you are just a rootless bastard.
          Do you want to know my respect to your country then take it, I piss to your american flag and your country
          foundation. See I am not wrong becuase all people can see you as what type of output your free society
          can produce. nothig more that a trash. I am sorry to say but you people do not have any dignity and deserve no repect so know you can get fck off from my post your mother sucker. get lost...

        • Posted By: arashasadi72 @ 08/22/2008 10:07:43 PM

          It seems you piece of *** did not get what am I saying. He he he, You talk about history, You root just came back to 300 years ago that means you are just a rootless bastard. Do you want to know my respect to your country then take it, I piss to your american flag and your country foundation. See I am not wrong becuase all people can see you as what type of output your free society can produce. nothig more that a trash. I am sorry to say but you people do noy have any dignity and deserve no repect so know you can get *** off from my post your mother sucker.

  • Posted By: Iconoblaster @ 08/21/2008 2:17:39 PM

    Pushing a conflict with Iran was never in our (ie, America's) real interests. For a lot of geopolitical reasons, Iran should be a US ally... OUR actions in Iran, back in 1953 and thereafter (the CIA-backed coup, the Shah's autocratic rule, with our protection and assistance), poisoned the well for American-Persian cooperation after 1979, and our petulance over Iran's 1979 reaction TO our previous misbehavior just seems to have locked in very counter-productive American attitudes toward Iran. Iran is no threat to the United States, and never was, but there ARE real threats to our nation out there, and a more grown-up attitude toward Iran would be very useful in helping us deal with those real threats. Time for us to grow up.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 08/22/2008 2:29:57 PM

      Yes, a neo-realpolitik with pragmatism and a long view is long overdue.

  • Posted By: habush @ 08/21/2008 2:46:45 PM

    Is the writer of this article just completely naive or foolish. There cannot be appeasement of people who want to see your country destroyed.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 08/22/2008 2:28:18 PM

      Bush is a lifelong alcoholic with an addictive personality disorder. He just jammed Jesus into the drug hole and pressed on. All this appeasement stuff is self validating for the Neo Con mindset.

    • Posted By: DodgerFan @ 08/21/2008 3:06:41 PM

      Who do you want to bomb first: Iran or Russia?

      • Posted By: pbarosso @ 08/22/2008 4:23:58 AM

        iran. then russia, then france.

    • Posted By: metzlerd @ 08/21/2008 3:41:19 PM

      Perhaps some people with dollar signs in their eyes may have overexadurated the threat a bit.

      What would be amusing is to combine your attitude with a paranoid pscytsophrenic President.
      This is the problem with seeing the world as only good or evil and nothing in between. It doesn't reflect reality, and sooner or later, you start to sound like an idiot.

  • Posted By: George from Westerville @ 08/21/2008 3:10:01 PM

    The bear is back in business. Combination of things instigated this aggression I think; nostalgia for the old Soviet Union and the desire to reclaim as much of that lost territory as possible; the fact that the U.S. is somewhat toothless at this point in time with troops deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan and pouring billions of dollars of our national treasury into the Iraq debacle; our diminished support from the global community; being fed up with all the attention that China is getting including the Olympics (just a coincidence this all happened during the Olympics? ... I think not); and the fact that they know with their large oil supplies that no one will call their bluff. Another reason that we have to: 1) Reduce our dependence on oil 2) Learn to negotiate and build alliances rather than trying to bully the rest of the world and 3) Continue to maintain and improve the best military in the world

    • Posted By: pbarosso @ 08/22/2008 2:52:37 AM

      dont you know that to build alliances you need to have common goals? only liberals think like you. you guys think that everything can be peachy keen and we can all be friends. well, in the real reality we cannot. there are huge problems with that part of the world. if they did not have oil it would sit there as a third world lot and rot until it sank into the bowels of tribal and sectarian extermination.

      • Posted By: Braes @ 08/22/2008 2:22:10 PM

        What common goal is achieved with an alliance in Georgia other than 2000 combat troops for Bush's war of misadventure and lies in Iraq? Not one NATO country agreed with our membership action plan. This is the GOP's blank check out there, as there is NO ratified treaty in the United States Senate.

  • Posted By: otm861 @ 08/21/2008 3:19:41 PM

    Only the more reason for the measured, sane mind of Barack Obama. With John Mac in office, we would probably be at war with Iran and Russia at the same time. Oops I forgot Venezuela and North Korea. Haven't we had enough of knee jerk military confrontationalism to last US a lifetime? It's time for cooler heads and intelligent diplomacy to prevail.

    • Posted By: valadezaj @ 08/21/2008 3:32:43 PM

      Nah. We'd rather have more wars.

      • Posted By: pbarosso @ 08/22/2008 2:46:39 AM

        you are a vagina. otm861. obama has no experience. his two terms in the senate are a joke. democrats want to take away our freedoms like guns and make us depend on the government to survive. this is also more commonly known as communism.

        get an education.

        • Posted By: Braes @ 08/22/2008 2:19:59 PM

          Usually when the lights are on, things like you sneak back into the cracks and hide. Bush has legitimized an awful lot. Half of Latin America has gone red on his watch... and the freakin Sandinistas run Nicaragua again. Most of the world now seethes when they see us. We are paraiahs in an international system of our own making. We let our jerk in Georgia kill 2000 people or so in Russian secured territory. Bush went into office with no experience at all in international matters. McCancer can't remember how many Villas he and the trophy wife have from alchohol sales. McCancer's top guy in international affairs is a Georgian Mouthpiece with price tags on display. Republicans believe that an Armed Force is a lawful means to settle conflicts and enforce cartels.
          Democrats dont want your guns. No one is making anyone a government dependent.
          You do, however make a most powerful argument for legal abortion.

  • Posted By: Braes @ 08/22/2008 2:09:54 PM

    Unlike Fareed, Mr. Dickey is right. Fareed thinks we should just accept a lot of things Bush has done. I think everything needs a re-evaluation with this administration. The Axis of Weasels we have had running things here since Newt ran his Neo Con revolution have gotten us back into existential threats and abandoned hard won treaties and gains that secured us. An honest evalutaion of all of our policies is very warranted.

  • Posted By: Holly Garfield @ 08/22/2008 1:28:45 PM

    To Master_of_muppets, continued: Would the world be a better place if the problem was sorted to its root? Yes. How do you do that? You have no answer that will work, do you? Does the US have something better to do? Yes. do the suicide bombers, IED planters, Iranian nuclear workers, AlQaida leaders, Taliban, insurgents, Russian military, terrorists, etc, etc, etc have something better to do? You tell me. But again you are not one who truly wants to argue for peace. You only want peace if you get your way. That is why you asked only about Americans having something better to do and not everyone else who is causing this unwarranted violence. Until the cowards who slaughter civilains without any hesitation then hide behind their women's skirts because they know that the US doesn't shoot or bomb civilians stop their endless rivers of children's blood the US military doesn't have anything better to do. If the US doesn't stop them will YOU? ABSOLUTELY NOT, because you do not have the courage of the US to fight FOR the innocent victim. Your words will NOT support peace until you acknowledge the heartless cruelty of those not of the US who are far more violent in nature. Until you face, and acknowledge, the whole truth, that the US prescence almost always reduces or eliminates pre-existing violence when the US flexes its mililtary might then you are supporting the people of violence. If the US were to leave peace would NOT happen. The only thing that would happen is even more uncontrolled violence. The ones who want the US out are the people who support uncontrolled violence. They want this because in the end they expect to have personal power from the violence. Your statements, and what you don't say, put you in that category. Why? Because you have not once acknowledged that violence ALWAYS precedes any US intervention, and the intent of US intervention is ALWAYS to put a stop to that violence. That means you are claiming to support peace but are only supporting the leaders of violence. By asking for the US to withdraw its forces you are giving the really violent people what they need to to distribute their brutal, sickly hatred and destruction, but that is what you truly want, isn't it?

    • Posted By: Braes @ 08/22/2008 1:37:04 PM

      Why? Because you have not once acknowledged that violence ALWAYS precedes any US intervention, and the intent of US intervention is ALWAYS to put a stop to that violence.
      Well no. We are now a rogue state that practices regime change, uses pre-emptive force, lies to start wars, runs chains of Black Sites in our Gulag Archipelago... leading to a final round of humiliation of torture at Guantanamo, to be followed by a kangaroo court.
      You, like most Americans, are describing the History book America that belonged to our grandparents. I miss it too.

  • Posted By: Holly Garfield @ 08/22/2008 1:08:10 PM

    Reply to Master_of_muppets: We haven't bombed Iran. Do we have to bomb Iran to stop Iran's nuclear program? Only the Iranian President and mullahs can tell you that. We are trying to stop them without bombing them. So far that has worked in LIbya and North Korea. Do we have to fly all the way there to stop Saddam Hussein? YES!!!! His choice, not ours. We deliberately stopped at the Kuwait border during Gulf War 1 so that Saddam would have a chance to stop without us having to go back. He didn't listen. We'll stop killing those who create suicide bombers and IED makers as soon as they stop killing innocent civilians by design.

    I will trust you as soon as you start telling the whole truth. Until then you do not deserve to be trusted, like anyone else who hides the whole truth. Direct your vitriol at the organizations that send women as suicide bombers into civilian marketplaces instead of the country that is trying to stop these pointless, vicious bloodbaths and I will start believing that you are interested in peace at a reasonable price. People who will sue for peace at the cost of freedom deserve neither peace nor freedom, a quote from US founding father Ben Franklin.

    What anti-US wave? The US has been facing this kind of attitude for decades. The only thing that changes is the location of the anti-US wave. I notice that almost all of the anti-US protestors want us to leave, but please leave your money on the way out. These are also the people who want to take power for themselves when the US leaves, putting wherever they are back in the situation that caused the US to arrive in the first place. The anti-US protestors are not without substantial self-interest, and I am talking about themselves, not their country.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 08/22/2008 1:30:42 PM

      Ohh we have killed plenty of Iranians. We helped Saddam use WMD on them, and shot an Airliner of them out of the sky from the USS Vincennes. We set up 4 superbases in his back yard with our Iraq war that threaten his strategic interests. We have since 1979 used every facet of national power to isolate and harm them.
      As far as their suicide bomber tactic, that is an islamic guided bomb. We make in factories what they produce in radical mosques. Death is Death, you just want to quibble over means.

  • Posted By: lovejusticepeace @ 08/22/2008 12:48:04 PM

    SouthOssetia MUST be joined to NorthOssetia
    WE dont want another NorthKorea and SouthKorea which is the handiwork of the USA

  • Posted By: lovejusticepeace @ 08/22/2008 12:44:23 PM

    Poland-US shield is an enigama.
    Shield against whom?
    Russia ? China ? India ? Iran ?Pakistan ?
    Whom is it going to shield ? Poland ? Former Soviet republics ? All of Europe ?
    If these questions are not answered , then it will result in Russia having a shield in SouthAmerica to protect its allies there.
    China will have a shield in NorthKorea to protect NorthKorea,China,Vietnam,Tibet,Hongkong,Macau.
    India can have a shield in the Himalayas to protect SouthAsia.
    Iran will erect a shield in the North to protect Iran, Iraq.
    Pakistan will have a shield at NWFP to protect Pakistan.

  • Posted By: pbarosso @ 08/22/2008 2:41:39 AM

    lol, seriously everybody hates the big boy on the block. you are all jealous of the U.S...... here we are safe from attacks and we are responsible with our nuclear weapons. we are not known for our religious zealots here, we are not known for hate speach against anyone in the world over here in the U.S.... we are importing our bussiness because you guys all want to eat kentucky fried chicken, taco bell, drink coka-cola, and smoke marlboro cigarettes.

    get over your hate for america. we have room for you too over here. you see over here people make their own destiny. sure we have problems, but if you keep your nose clean, raise your kids to love their neighbor like jesus said, you too can live a great and glorious life that doesnt end by bomb vests and laughter.

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/22/2008 10:37:22 AM

      Is this sarcasm? Because everything you just said can be refuted quite easily. And it's quite silly to refer to the high schoolish "you're all jealous!!" argument. Religious zealots? We've had our share, including the guy in office that took out 2 countries in so-called defense of god and country. Nuclear responsibility is a joke here, and how is it irresponsible in other countries? Are they being irresponsible simply because they want to have them like we have for decades? Not known for hate speech??? "You're either with us or against us" seems pretty aggressive and hate-filled, no? And we're trillions in debt to China, so don't even get me started on imports/exports. Our dollar is the weakest it has been in a long time, so don't think that we export and import products as a favor to ANY country.

  • Posted By: TomMarAlem1987 @ 08/21/2008 7:51:01 PM

    Hello:
    First of all, don't you give any care about the people?
    Secondly, I read something from the US State department which claimed that the Russian military is large, poorly funded, and ill disciplined. Poorly funded, meaning it cannot sustain any involved conflicts. The same goes with Iran.

    • Posted By: pbarosso @ 08/22/2008 3:04:58 AM

      not when people are our enemies, only the weak care. they die first.

  • Posted By: OnlyCure=Truth @ 08/22/2008 12:06:09 AM

    Pride is before a crash.

    • Posted By: pbarosso @ 08/22/2008 3:02:41 AM

      so.... you planning to crash or something?

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