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  • Posted By: Fight4USA8 @ 08/23/2008 10:21:55 PM

    Justin Webb, of BBC said "Why is it this way round: why isn't the able, experienced, reassuring guy the one at the top of the ticket?"

    Sorry, to remind Webb, Joe Biden was one of the presidential candidates out of 8 or 10 individuals, guess what? The voters said "Obama is the one," besides no one matches Obama's judgement, that is the major job experience for the president. You have to come up with something better than that to put down Obama.

    Webb, before you give your expert opinion, please think!

  • Posted By: Fight4USA8 @ 08/23/2008 10:20:17 PM

    McCAIN HAS NOTHING TO RUN ON!

    ....Obama/Biden "Perfect Choice & A Winning Ticket" I predict 340-Obama/200-McCain

    ....Senators Hagel, R-NE, "Biden is good for Obama & America" & Lugar, R-IN ""I congratulate Senator Barack Obama on his selection of my friend, Senator Joe Biden"

    ....Experience could be "Good", "Mediocre" or "Bad" and judged not by the number of years, but by what one accomplished with a sound "JUDGEMENT"

    ???. McCain: "bomb, bomb Iran, is a luck of experience & Judgment.

    ???. McCain brags about his expertise on Iraq, but he doesn't know the difference between Sunni & Shiites.

    ???. McCain could not tell you where Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan are located.

    ???. McCain did not know a country that existed since 1993, Czech Republic.

    ???. McCain says President Saakashvili of Georgia is his friend, but he doesn't remember his name.

    ???Saakashvili is sent his tanks to Abkhazia and South Ossetia, so Russia (the peace keeper since 1993) had to send it's tanks to protect the people from Saakashvili's aggression. The logical McCain said we have to punish Russia, which might start "World War III".

    ???McCain has 10 houses, but when Politico asked him for the number of houses, he said it's a condo, my campaign will get back to you.

    (the list goes on, on, on, & on)

    ...McCain is questioning Obama's citizenship and patriotism.

    ....Obama was born in Hawaii, USA on USA soil, McCain was born in Panama, South America, on a PANAMANIAN SOIL. Although McCain could have a dual citizenship, because of his American born parents, but in reality he is a Panamanian.

    ....Watching the Rick Warren Forum, McCain was nerves and like a "ROBOT."

    ...That was not McCain, someone gave him the questions, he listened to Obama's interview for an hour.

    ....Or by some magical means his been transformed to the higher level of knowledge from economics, politics, religion to geography overnight.

    ...Questions: 1. Abortion 2. Define Marriage 3. California/ Gay Marriage 4. Stem Cells 5. Does Evil Exist 6. Which Existing Supreme Court Justices would you not have nominated?

    ...How can McCain "get back" to a question he was never asked?

    ...McCain: Could I -- "are we going to get back to the importance of Supreme Court Justices or should I mention" --

    ..."are we going to get back" is THE OPERATIVE STATEMENT,

    ....WARREN: You're jumping ahead (inaudible). "You've got all my questions. Good!"

    ...If McCain did not know the question ahead of time, he would have said "I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION HERE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES"

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  • Posted By: Galasso @ 08/23/2008 10:09:46 PM

    Fineman is dead on in this article. Biden was the only Democratic candidate who had the experience and credentials to be President. He is tough, highly respected, and does not suffer fools. He was not nominated because he is not particularly telegenic and the MSM was drooling all over Obama at the starting gate. It is painfully obvious that Obama is almost pitifully deficient in foreign policy and Biden is a good choice. Biden will be able to deal with Putin much better than Obama. Another thing in his favor is that even though he is a lawyer, he never practiced law to any significant extent. This means we wouldn't get a John Edwards with white hair. Biden's major flaw is his loquaciousness and the fact that he never has a private thought. It is almost as if he has Poltician's tourette syndrome. He will have to be scripted and managed and that will be like carrying bullfrogs in a wheelbarrow. Good luck. Biden does offer some level of comfort to people who are wavering on the Obama vote, however, because the enigmatic Obama has yet to identify what "changes" he will institute or what his plans are for the country other than the policy du jour we have been served up thus far.

  • Posted By: tbbuc99 @ 08/23/2008 10:08:27 PM

    How does Obama keep talking change and getting away from the same "old" washington politics and then goes out and gets an "old" time "old" Washington politician in Biden? Give me a break, this yo-yo will say and do anything to get the highest office in the world and that is exactly what he's in it for, a power trip and that is it.

  • Posted By: howboutdembengals @ 08/23/2008 10:08:26 PM

    must admit i am no hillary fan...she is not a convincing strong leader...bill is a scandelous and adultering embarassment to our country ...so many millions of $$ wasted on his impeachment. we should have thrown him out. women, really, how can anyone vote for hillary when it is a vote for bill. teach your daughters to never accept that degrading treatment - americans seem to have convenient memories. 911 is something to remember. terrorist do exist and they blend into every society. fighting to protect our freedoms (our soldiers are volunteering to do just that), all commendable things. adultery..hiding the corrupt files that show behavior unbecoming the chief and commander of this wonderful country...we don't really need any of this...trying to change every other culture to be like ours- we need to stop that too...let folks live in the religious and cultural fashion chosen. we may not agree, but that is why we have a melting pot. let's all keep a persepective here. Joe Biden is not near the politico that Obama may need for votes, but he does not seem to carry the scandous ways of Clinton and Edwards (I am still so shocked and disappointed in that one). OK now I am rambling...so much to say, but no real power to change things...Too bad Al Gore did not step up this year.

  • Posted By: jgsman @ 08/23/2008 10:07:39 PM

    Biden: ever known someone who says "lets talk" then he talks on and on and on--finally you try to interject something and hes almost insulted giving you that "excuse me I'M talking" look and keeps on talking---then you finally DO get a chance to say something and he interrupts repeatedly because well he feels what he has to say is more important and intelligent so he feels he has a DUTY to interrupt....what I've described says a lot about a persons character and is the epitome of arrogance!--and its describes Biden beautifully. But then you can't expect too much in terms of manners and congeniality as he is a boy in a mans suit--and a a/c to boot.

  • Posted By: dboylon @ 08/23/2008 10:01:37 PM

    This is the absolute worst article I have ever read. Fineman is an embarassment to journalism. Biden is a Neo-con hack. Don't believe me? Read the link.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZmO80dLfE
    I won't hold my breath to see if this ever get's posted. Because after all.....

    "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."
    -David Rockefeller in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.


  • Posted By: jgsman @ 08/23/2008 9:59:22 PM

    First of all intellect has NOTHING to do with being President--a good one or a bad one. Being a "decent person" (which eliminates most lawyers) is a prerequisite...and thats where Biden fails. He'a a lawyer--ever met anyone who says "lets talk" then proceeds to talk on and on and you try to interject something and its like "excuse me I'M talking..then you finally get a turn and he interrupts repeatedly because well--he KNOWS his thoughts are more important than yours. Biden--a boy in a mans suit.

  • Posted By: howboutdembengals @ 08/23/2008 9:58:03 PM

    How can Senator Biden bring too much to the ticket...he plagarized, insulted folks and never captured too many votes..does he really have name recognition? Who really knows what is in his closet...truth- if we give him a microphone and 10 minutes he will probably tell us! The man i s aboare and a career politician...not really sure what the dems get here. Also, on the outside chance some crazy does injure or asassinate Obama- do we really want a person who captured less than 2% of the democrats vote leading the country ....this is a bit scary.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 08/23/2008 7:48:32 PM

    1. GEORGE H. W. BUSH SR. ATTACKED RONALD REAGAN AND LATER RAN & SERVED 2 TERMS AS REAGAN'S VP !!

    2. JOHN F. KENNEDY WAS ATTACKED BY LYNDON B. JOHNSON AN LATER RAN AS HIS VP, TO LATER BECOME PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

    3. "MORMON" MITT ROMNEY, ATTACKED JOHN "SEMI-SENILE" MCCAIN WITH VIGOR, AND NOW, OLE MAN MCCAIN IS SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING MORMON MITT, AS HIS VICE PRESIDENT. OLE MAN MCCAIN HAD BETTER VET MITT'S FATHER, REGARDING MULTIPLE WIVES, AS WELL AS MITT, REAGRDING MULTIPLE WIVES OR HIS SIBLINGS, FOR THAT MATTER.

    BUT HOW WILL OLE MAN MCCAIN, RESPOND TO ALL THE COMMERCIALS FROM THE OBAMA CAMP, HIGHLIGHTING MITT, ATTACKING MCCAIN HIMSELF !!!!

    THIS WILL BE FUNNIER THAN SEEING A HOOKER AND NUN, BOTH CHAINED TO A HOT RADIATOR....

    WITH NO KEY IN SIGHT !!!!!

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/23/2008 7:55:07 PM

      HEY GOOBER....Biden has called Hussein ..."to inexperienced to be POTUS"......"articulate for a black man.".....".POTUS not a position for on the job training".......McCain already has ads showing his true feelings. This is soooo funny.

      Hey....seen any "born alive" babies lately?

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: rich1765 @ 08/23/2008 9:55:21 PM

        Well, if your going to go there you better hope McCain don't pick Romey? We have soudbites too! It goes both ways. When your competing you have to battle eachother.

      • Posted By: jojosteele @ 08/23/2008 8:04:47 PM

        Aren't most babies BORN alive?

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/23/2008 8:26:11 PM

          you aren't serious are you?

          NOBAMA!!!

          • Posted By: Omaar @ 08/23/2008 8:46:32 PM

            THE UN-HOLY ROLLER: WHITE GOD ABOVE, PLEASE KEEP THE WHITE HOUSE WHITE, WITH A WHITE MAN AS PRESIDENT. EVEN IF ITS A SEMI-SENILE, FEEBLE MINDED OLE MAN AS JOHN MCCAIN...PLEASE !!!


            HOW RACIST CAN YOU GET !!!
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            1. GEORGE H. W. BUSH SR. ATTACKED RONALD REAGAN AND LATER RAN & SERVED 2 TERMS AS REAGAN'S VP !!

            2. JOHN F. KENNEDY WAS ATTACKED BY LYNDON B. JOHNSON AN LATER RAN AS HIS VP, TO LATER BECOME PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

            3. "MORMON" MITT ROMNEY, ATTACKED JOHN "SEMI-SENILE" MCCAIN WITH VIGOR, AND NOW, OLE MAN MCCAIN IS SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING MORMON MITT, AS HIS VICE PRESIDENT. OLE MAN MCCAIN HAD BETTER VET MITT'S FATHER, REGARDING MULTIPLE WIVES, AS WELL AS MITT, REAGRDING MULTIPLE WIVES OR HIS SIBLINGS, FOR THAT MATTER.

            BUT HOW WILL OLE MAN MCCAIN, RESPOND TO ALL THE COMMERCIALS FROM THE OBAMA CAMP, HIGHLIGHTING MITT, ATTACKING MCCAIN HIMSELF !!!!

            THIS WILL BE FUNNIER THAN SEEING A HOOKER AND NUN, BOTH CHAINED TO A HOT RADIATOR....

            WITH NO KEY IN SIGHT !!!!!

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            HEY SNAGGLED TOOTH JACK ASS....

            YOUR GRAND DRAGON JOHN MCCAIN BELIEVES IN ABORTION....

            1. INCEST: (NO TIME LIMIT)

            2. RAPE: (NO TIME LIMIT)

            3. MOTHERS LIFE THREATENING: "WHEN THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER IS...THREATENED" !!!

            THAT MEANS, WHETHER THE MOTHER IS IN THE 1ST TERM, MID TERM OR LATTER TERM, IN ALL THESE CASES.

            BY THE WAY, MCAIN HAS BACKED OFF THAT PRO-LIFE CHIRADE, HE PUT ON AT SADDLEBACK CHURCH...

            BY JACK-ASS !!!

  • Posted By: fredwallace25 @ 08/23/2008 9:40:26 PM

    Has everyone forgot the guy that couldn't even use his own words in a speach stolen from a Brit Politician? I sure haven't. Being a University Professor, I understand that Plagiarizing happens in our world of printed words but when someone gives a speach and you find out later that it was not their words...that is theft of ideas because they don't have any of their own...Everyone seems to have forgiven him but I would hold him to the same code that I hold my students and he has failed. This is the man that Mr Obama has picked to help him run the country...not if I have anything to say about it.

    • Posted By: nleath @ 08/23/2008 9:50:29 PM

      Speach is correctly spelled Speech.

  • Posted By: headpad666 @ 08/23/2008 8:05:45 PM

    Tired of the media covering up N l G G E R crime, welfare rates, and low IQ levels?

    visit the FACT section of C H l M P O U T . C O M

    if you want the truth

    • Posted By: rich1765 @ 08/23/2008 9:45:54 PM

      Low IQ
      McCain 894 of 899 out of the Naval Academy
      Obama top of his class out of HARVARD!
      Need I say more about low IQ

    • Posted By: Totto @ 08/23/2008 8:35:04 PM

      Your comments are usually posted in the "Larry Craig Memorial Wide Stance Stall"

  • Posted By: tired and old @ 08/23/2008 8:44:48 PM

    I AM VERY HAPPY TO SAY " GO ! OBAMA / BIDEN 09 ."

    I AM ALSO HAPPY TO SAY " DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD, WHICH OLD WITCH ---- THE HILLARY WITCH ".

    BILL CLINTON AN ADULTEROUS LUMP OF CRAP. GEE ! BILL. YOU TOOK THE WITCH DOWN WITH YOUR PUBLIC BLOW JOBS AND FOREIGN MONEY LOBBYING.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/23/2008 8:51:50 PM

      Tired and Old....so the Alzheimer's is progressing huh. Sorry to see it. Try laying off the Kool-Aide. It might help clear your thoughts.

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: still_me_too @ 08/23/2008 9:03:46 PM

        You should stop saying vile things about Hillary. Obma still needs votes from her supporters

        • Posted By: rich1765 @ 08/23/2008 9:38:15 PM

          I agree we (Obama supporters) need to stop the attacks on Hillary! I truly think we are just making it harder for Hillary supporters to get behind Obama because we have created a war between us groups. I don't even know if it is about the candidates anymore. I think it is tension between supporters. I was for Obama before he even announced he was running. I would have been crushed if he didn't get the nomination, but I still would have voted for Hillary because of the damage McCain will do to this country. We Obama supporters need to stop pouring salt on the wound and try to heal the rift not tear it further open. We need to win this election.

          • Posted By: tired and old @ 08/23/2008 9:44:08 PM

            HILLARY CLINTON STARTED THE DIRTY TRICKS, CHARACTER ASSASSINATION OF OBAMA.

            SCREW THOSE WHO PLACE HER ABOVE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

            HILLARY SUPPORTERS ARE CO-CONTRIBUTORS TO HER VILENESS.

        • Posted By: tired and old @ 08/23/2008 9:38:20 PM

          VILE = MORALLY EVIL; WICKED, DISGUSTING MEAN, VERY BAD.

          CLINTONS = VILE TO THE BONE; HILLARY CLINTON, EVIL WICKED DISGUSTING MEAN WITCH.

        • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 08/23/2008 9:30:12 PM


          That's one thing that enraged Clinton supporters; some Obama supporters can't to this day shut up about. That's why I left the HuffingtonPost and came to Newsweek. Fortunately, those Obamabots are a minority, most understand that we need to unite the party, and Hillary herself is exacerbating people's patience lately with the whole nonsense about her delegates at the convention. I supported her strongly and even I'm mad at her. But leave her alone, we need the party together.

        • Posted By: tired and old @ 08/23/2008 9:22:40 PM

          LOYAL DEMOCRATS ARE FOR THE PARTY NOT THE WICKED WITCH.

          IF OUR FOR THE EVIL WICKED LUMP OF *** CALLED CLINTON - YOUR NOT A REL DEMOCRAT, JUST A LOSER.

          • Posted By: tired and old @ 08/23/2008 9:28:24 PM

            CLINTONS ARE VIAL POND SCUM.

            NEVER FORGET THE CLINTON DIRTY TRICKS, THE LIES, ALL THE LIES.

            DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM REMEMBERING THE EVIL CLINTON CLAN ?

            DON'T WORRY ! I WILL REMIND YOU OFTEN.

      • Posted By: tired and old @ 08/23/2008 9:05:54 PM

        AND ITS NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN UN-HOLY ROLLER.

  • Posted By: par4otter @ 08/23/2008 8:30:21 PM

    maybe you sould try working on some math and reality, now that you kind a get redundant. If he sided with Pres. Bush 37% of the time that means he voted against him 63% of the time. Another fact that might be interesting to use here is how often obama was present for a vote. Look it up, you'll enjoy.

    • Posted By: rich1765 @ 08/23/2008 9:43:54 PM

      It helps if you know what a present vote means! Voting presents means no with an explanation attached! It is not a bad thing. Make yourself knowledgable about the facts before you spill nonsense you know nothing about. Also something the McCain campaign is very good at.

  • Posted By: headpad666 @ 08/23/2008 6:00:44 PM

    Tired of N l G G E R S ?

    visit C H l M P O U T . C O M

    • Posted By: 23bigdon1 @ 08/23/2008 6:14:13 PM

      You are a typical knuckle dregging iRepublican racist diot. You and Sean Hannity probably went to the prom together.

      • Posted By: Davole @ 08/23/2008 9:41:17 PM

        23bigdon1 -

        From your demonstrated lack of proficiency in spelling, are you and hardlyherenoethere in the same beginner's alternate education class at school?

  • Posted By: rube @ 08/23/2008 4:57:24 PM

    II love this nation, yet I see and feel the wheels are coming off!
    I know deep in heart that I must vote for the right choice. I must associate myself with those who I strongly feel that their ideology will harm the nation the least. I am no fool by any stretch- I have worked in over 30 states of the union. I have met folks from all walks of life. Our nation is standing on the verge of disaster.

    Obama and Biden are far more intelligent and dignified than Bush and Cheney. And Mccain - well he is another wealthy GOP pro war, pro nationalistic monger waiting in the wings. I will do my patriotic duty and vote against fascism and for freedom!

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/23/2008 5:34:18 PM

      Voting instead for infanticide?

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/23/2008 6:31:57 PM

        My god, we've been debating abortion for decades now.

        Can't you get this terrible topic off your mind? Nobody is voting for "infanticide" you maniac! You're going too far to defend the criminal fascists who've infiltrated our government wearing the Guise of the Goody Two Shoes -- the Tassled Loafer crowd whose Country Club economic policies have crippled us these last 8 years.

        Get real - the mother is always more important, morally speaking, than her unborn infant or children. You cannot replace her, but you can have more children. I know that sounds cruel - but study your moral philiosophy and maybe you'll understand it a bit better.

        This is about Right to Choose - for a rational, thinking adult and her doctor, priest, pastor, partner, family. It's NOT for anyone in the Government to legislate.

        • Posted By: Davole @ 08/23/2008 9:31:51 PM

          notroubleatall1963 -

          Yes, Americans have "been debating abortion for decades now."

          And they're finally beginning to realize the immorality of Roe vs Wade.

          Likewise, slavery and segregation were once generally accepted, then overturned by principle.

          As is often said - "God works in mysterious ways."

  • Posted By: mossback @ 08/23/2008 8:40:57 PM

    I believe that this is a magnificent pairing of two intelligent and worty men to lead our country.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/23/2008 8:45:33 PM

      are you being sarcastic? I hope so...cause..."a mind is a terrible thing to waste."

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 08/23/2008 9:10:29 PM


        "a mind is a terrible thing to waste."

        So what's your excuse, Doobie Roller? : )

        • Posted By: rich1765 @ 08/23/2008 9:29:51 PM

          McCain has already stated on multiple occasions he will bring us into more wars. He also stated on different occasions he is not against the draft (however his staff insists he is). My question to you is; Are you happy with the economy right now? The Iraq war, along with McCain???s friend/financial advisor (Grahm), is the main reasons the economy is in the condition it is in! How does McCain expect to wage more wars and fix the economy at the same time? It is impossible! We (active duty soldiers) can't even rotate duty stations near the end of the fiscal year due to being over budget. We don't have enough money for the wars we are already in! We don't have enough soldiers to fight more wars. We are already overstretched and doing multiple tours. You make it out of one deployment alive and intact to find out you have to go through it all over again! We do not have enough soldiers for another single war. This means a draft would be necessary. We would need additional money for the soldiers, more weapons, more tanks, more helicopters, more aircraft, more ammunition, more armor, more food, more uniforms etc?????? Take a second to think about our economy after all this! Please don't do this to our country or us soldiers. We are the ones you are punishing. I know a draft seems like a long shot to civilians, but it is obvious to us in the military. We can only do so much with the people we have especially if we are all wounded or dead!!!!! Think about the consequences to everybody. There is a reason the military is donating 6:1 to Obama. We can see the end result of a McCain presidency. You would think military would vote for a retired military war hero, but we are not!! I think we are more afraid of McCain than Bin Laden.
          Signed,
          U.S. Soldier

  • Posted By: rich1765 @ 08/23/2008 9:24:19 PM

    McCain has already stated on multiple occasions he will bring us into more wars. He also stated on different occasions he is not against the draft (however his staff insists he is). My question to you is; Are you happy with the economy right now? The Iraq war, along with McCain???s friend/financial advisor (Grahm), is the main reasons the economy is in the condition it is in! How does McCain expect to wage more wars and fix the economy at the same time? It is impossible! We (active duty soldiers) can't even rotate duty stations near the end of the fiscal year due to being over budget. We don't have enough money for the wars we are already in! We don't have enough soldiers to fight more wars. We are already overstretched and doing multiple tours. You make it out of one deployment alive and intact to find out you have to go through it all over again! We do not have enough soldiers for another single war. This means a draft would be necessary. We would need additional money for the soldiers, more weapons, more tanks, more helicopters, more aircraft, more ammunition, more armor, more food, more uniforms etc?????? Take a second to think about our economy after all this! Please don't do this to our country or us soldiers. We are the ones you are punishing. I know a draft seems like a long shot to civilians, but it is obvious to us in the military. We can only do so much with the people we have especially if we are all wounded or dead!!!!! Think about the consequences to everybody. There is a reason the military is donating 6:1 to Obama. We can see the end result of a McCain presidency. You would think military would vote for a retired military war hero, but we are not!! I think we are more afraid of McCain than Bin Laden.
    Signed,
    U.S. Soldier

  • Posted By: fufuguru @ 08/23/2008 9:17:28 PM

    "He kept telling President Bush in the aftermath of 9/11 that he wanted to help him, privately, anytime. Bush, ill-advisedly, never availed himself of the priceless chance."

    Good Lord Mr. Fineman - what kinda drugs are you on?

  • Posted By: fufuguru @ 08/23/2008 9:16:03 PM

    "He kept telling President Bush in the aftermath of 9/11 that he wanted to help him, privately, anytime. Bush, ill-advisedly, never availed himself of the priceless chance."

    Good Lord Mr. Fineman, what kinda drugs are you on?

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