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  • Posted By: eliza5238 @ 08/25/2008 11:18:32 AM

    Let us not forget 9/11. Just because someone says they aren't something does not make it true, especially with a politician. We don't need "Osama's brother" running the White House. It is too important of a job for someone we're NOT SURE OF to be in. Better safe than sorry!!!

    NOBAMA!!

    • Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 11:26:24 AM

      That's up-side-down logic. You think if he is veiwed by Muslims to be a Muslim, they will attack his country? Assuming there are true Muslims who commit suicide, and genocide.

      • Posted By: hkjonus @ 08/25/2008 11:33:25 AM

        Yeh lets apply your logic to McCain. Just because he says hes not a man eating alien doesnt mean hes not. We cannot risk that one day he might peel away the mask and show his big eyes, silver skin and huge teeth, then devour us humans, and maybe even some republicans. We just can't risk it!

        • Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 11:52:11 AM

          ...But is he a man eating alien?

          • Posted By: EveryoneHasBias @ 08/25/2008 12:09:50 PM

            The fact is, we don't know. Sure he denies it, but I just don't think we can take the risk that he is. Our country's, nay, the world's future safety is at stake here.

            • Posted By: hkjonus @ 08/25/2008 12:42:15 PM

              well i just know for sure that McCain did go on record that he has seen the movie "Alien" and even watched ET twice. Whether he is or he isnt an alien, I just think its too risky!

              • Posted By: EveryoneHasBias @ 08/25/2008 1:04:51 PM

                I concur. That's mighty suspicious behavior for someone who's not an alien...

        • Posted By: eliza5238 @ 08/25/2008 12:07:23 PM

          It would be nice if some common sense could rule the day but it doesn't seem that's the case. You have lost reality.

      • Posted By: winbobcan @ 08/25/2008 11:39:49 AM

        You mean there aren't true Mulims who commit suicide and genocide?

  • Posted By: goeast12 @ 08/25/2008 1:02:59 PM

    Obama was raised by his mother and grandparents. They were Christians from Kansas. His father was not in the picture. His mom was doing charitable work (God's work) in Indonesia and other parts of the world. These are Obama's influences. His mom was an American and Obama is an American.
    Americans always claim they are sick of negative politics and want to talk about the issues, but that's not true. Negative politics, innuendo, and rumors are used in the political process because they work. It's very immature and right out of high school. It's also unchristian. Jesus was a caring, loving, charitable, and non-judgmental person. He would be sickened by the ugly politics we see today. I'm ashamed of my fellow Americans and Christians, and I can only hope you see Jesus??? true teachings and path. Then you'll see both candidates are Americans who love this country and want to do what's best for it. Vote on the issues and leave the un-American, and if you are a Christian, unchristian ugliness behind.

  • Posted By: sparky716 @ 08/25/2008 1:01:14 PM

    When I went to school (1952 -1964) WE were taught America was founded on religious freedom...guess my teachers lied...I dont care where Obama goes to church as long as its not the same one bush goes to...bush's church must believe in lie's because he can tell some whoppers....I was brought up in The Church Of God... a pentecostal church and I' m votin for Obama....If he was a muslim he would be better than bush jr. America cannot take 4 more years of bush jr...from watching bush jr tv spots he can lie better than bush or he's so old he can't remember what he's says from day to day...one thing for sure he cant remember how many house's he has and don't know what kind of car he owns...I believe most American's know how many houses they own and what kind of car they drive...old man McCain pay more for his house staff yearly than most American's make

  • Posted By: rgiron @ 08/25/2008 12:59:41 PM

    yes thanks to us God loving taxpayers we're paying for your edumacation during your time here in the good ol' US of A

  • Posted By: Srba @ 08/25/2008 3:44:37 AM

    If America swallows this rubbish once again it will preserve the status quo and condemn America to its inevitable decline. America serves as the lighting house for freedom, opportunity for all and is the country others look up to, not turn their head from in disgust. Four more years of semi-Bush policies would decimate the opinion that we outside of the US have of it.

    • Posted By: ToadBoy @ 08/25/2008 12:59:30 PM

      Oh good, another "America in decline" diatribe. That drumbeat has been rat..at..atting for close to 40 years now. The fact is America is not in decline because the vast majority of Americans don't give a rats *** what foreigners think. This, I might add, is no different than how foreigners feel about their own country and outsider's views of it

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 8:40:51 AM

    August 25, 2008 · 1 Comment
    Philip J Berg, attorney at law, filed a complaint on Thursday, August
    21, 2008, against Barack Obama. The complaint states that ???Obama does not meet the qualifications to be President of the United States.???
    MR. Berg states the following in his press release:

    ???Berg filed this suit for the best interests of the Democratic Party and the citizens of the United States.???Eighteen million Democratic Primary voters donated money, volunteered their time and energy, worked very hard and then not only supported Senator Clinton, but voted for her and often recruited other supporters as well. All the efforts of supporters of legitimate citizens were for nothing because this man lied and cheated his way into a
    Philip J. Berg, Esquire stated in his lawsuit that Senator Obama:

    1. Is not a natural-born citizen; and/or

    2. Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or

    3. Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

    Berg stated: ???I filed this action at this time to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.???

    The defendants in the complaint are:

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, a/k/a :
    BARRY SOETORO, a/k/a :
    BARRY OBAMA , a/k/a : JURY TRIAL DEMANDED
    BARACK DUNHAM, a/k/a :
    BARRY DUNHAM, THE :
    DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL :
    COMMITTEE, THE FEDERAL :
    ELECTION COMMISSION AND :
    DOES 1-50 INCLUSIVE

    hmmm....getting better and better.

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 9:44:48 AM

      Can anyone show these adoption papers that supposedly nullifies his American citizenship?

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 10:02:12 AM

        I have no idea. Speculation is rampant that the RNC has passport proof of Indonesian citizenship and name of Barry Soetoro. Phillip Berg is no flunky. He was former Deputy Attny. General for the State of Pennsylvania and Chairperson for Mongomery C. Dems.

        NOBAMA!!!

        • Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 10:12:03 AM

          Passports don't prove anything in a third world country. There are many people around the world with multiple passports, some of countries they have never even been. Your guys need to do better than that.

          • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/25/2008 10:21:50 AM

            No kidding! How many Mexicans have hopped the border with fake passports? Phillip Berg is out of his mind and making himself look quite ridiculous.

            • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 10:26:38 AM

              we will see.

              NOBAMA!!!

              • Posted By: sregis @ 08/25/2008 12:26:00 PM

                how about this option: why can't the republicans simply run a campaign w/ honestly on the straight and narrow featuring the positives of their own candidate? but no, the well-oiled slime-machine is already in overdrive. how do you sleep at night?

                • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 12:55:32 PM

                  I sleep very well. This accusation is not from the Republicans...yet. It is from the former Deputy Attorney Gen State of Pennsylvanis...and former Chairperson for the DEMOCRAT Congress of Montgomery Co.

                  So there...He will be forced to deal with these claims. It is in Federal Court.

                  NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: xman of tn @ 08/25/2008 12:54:33 PM

    Follow the campaign donation money. I understand alot of his funds are coming from Muslim based organizations, some on top of the table and alot illegally under the table. Follow the Money !!

  • Posted By: DanaForObama @ 08/25/2008 12:53:13 PM

    The point of this article which all of you clearly failed to see- is that the whole idea of Obama being a Muslim is a LIE. If the man has baptised his children as Christian and been raised as a Christian what is the problem? He was NEVER a muslim. HE was moved to a Muslim country as a child because his mother moved there for work related purposes. He went to a PUBLIC school- not a mosque....and shortly thereafter was returned to Hawaii to live with his Grandparents due to the fact that his mother was concerned for his level of education. Point is, if you are going to believe all this garbage the swiftboating McSame Team is shoving down your throats- the your ignorance is your own cross to bear. The point of the article is that sadly we are as prejudice to Muslims now as we were to the Japanese durring WW 2, and potential Communists durring the Cold War. The Muslim religion is actually a religion of peace- but extremists have turned it into something we fear. All everyone needs to know is that Barack Obama was named after his father- and that is the only reason he bears that name, although his father may have been Muslim as some point in his life- Barack Obama was not raised by his father and only met him twice in his life before he died.
    If you believe in God, and have ever read the Bible- it clearly states Thou Shalt Not Judge... Judge the man on his character, judge him on the policies he wants to put forth, judge him based on the wonderful father he is, judge him on his dreams and aspirations for this country- do not judge him based on lies and swiftboating politics- do not judge him on the color of his skin. I wish you all for one day could have your lives and beliefs picked over and analyzed. The choices you have made in your life, the wrong associations you have in your past... in the words of Bob Marley- when you point the finger at others make sure your hands are clean! I will pray for all of you who prefer Ignorance to Education!

  • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/25/2008 12:52:29 PM

    Bush is a christian isn't he?? What has he done??? destruction of an innocent country, lies, corruption! Sorry I would vote for an atheist anyday! and a muslim too!! It does not matter what religion they are as long as they do a good job for their country and Obama will! This country is as religious fanatic as the arab countries.. See where it took us! RELIGION DOES NOT MIX WELL WITH POLITIC. TRASH IT!!

  • Posted By: TMic @ 08/25/2008 12:37:38 PM

    "Once Barack Obama emerged as the Democratic candidate, it was clear the presidential contest would become a referendum on race." In other words, if you don't vote for the black guy, you are a racist. It is this kind of simplistic parsing of the demographics that one would expect to hear from someone who is casting their own vote based on race. HIllary is a hell of a lot better than Obama any day!

    • Posted By: simonanunhappydem @ 08/25/2008 12:43:28 PM

      Hear hear! Well said. However, this race does not have to be about race. The Obama camp and the media are making it about race, same as they made the primaries about race, and succeeded. They will have a harder time at the general election. We will see. This will be a seminal election in many ways. We will probably elect the first black president and it will probably the end of the two party system.

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 12:50:28 PM

        Emil Jones...Hussein's main Chicago crook.....Saturday called a Hillary delegate..."Uncle Tom".....I can feel the LOVE.

        NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: wnnr2 @ 08/25/2008 12:48:29 PM

    Where is Mr. Obama's James Carville? If not Mr. Carville himself, then Mr. Obama must install smeone that is as tenacious as James Carville as a top advisor instead of those milktoasts that presently are messing up Barack Obama's campaign. The best defense is a strong offense. Do not appeal to voter's logic. Play to their emotions--that's where their idea of logic dwells.

  • Posted By: user7 @ 08/25/2008 10:57:24 AM

    then why is obama making it an issue, just speak up and say I AM A MUSLIM, this story started because of his denial, his lies, he fueled this issue and gave it many legs to run with, he started off with lies, no reason for me to vote for this person, mccain will get my vote

    • Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 11:30:36 AM

      What are these lies, if I may ask?

      • Posted By: user7 @ 08/25/2008 12:03:59 PM

        which one would you like to hear of first, his association with wright and his rants damning the country he calls "his" which he states he never heard, his ties to rezko and his nice little deal his wife used to buy a house cheap, his ties to ayers, his ties to farrekham, all of which he has denied

        mr.eloquence does not get my vote, i can vote for a stupid white boy rather than a stupid black one

        only reason blacks are voting for obama is because he is black, not because he is good, what does that say of this illiterate

        • Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 12:45:23 PM

          His association to with Wright was purely based on how to help the Southside Chicgoans, not what policies should shape America. Every prominent politician(republican/democrat) in Chicago had some consortment with Rezko. Rezko was about gaining political ifavors irrespective of who with. Obama was not found guilty of any crime in the house deal. I wonder why that's hard to stomach.
          Obama and Ayers happened to be on the same board in the University of Chicago, and that's not a crime the last time I checked. He has no ties to Farrakhan whatsoever. You can decide to vote for whomever you want. It's not the same as claiming that the person you wouldn't vote for is a liar.
          Try to pretend that your biases are at least fair. You do you claim that someone who topped his class at Harvard is an 'illeterate'?

  • Posted By: whatintheworld @ 08/25/2008 12:39:00 PM

    President Bush isn't a Christian, he's of the skull and cross bones. While all of the brainwashed americans are living in fear of Jesus Christ and his father God... second, NEVER should a Muslim or Islamic or Satanic Worshiper etc be president. AND I'm sorry, everyone wants to say a black man running for president, that's astounding to me. He's nothing like our black African Americans... He's not a black man. BUT, he'll play on all of you thinking he is to get the votes. IF his beliefs are of Muslim, he should not even be allowed to run for president of the US... I was born and raised Mormon, and there's NO WAY I'de risk voting a mormon into presidency to risk having a mormon president try to turn the rest of the United States into what they have turned Utah into. I would NEVER want a Mormon president running our country, because plain and simple, you can take the mormon out of Utah, but your cannot take Utah out of the Mormon. The Muslim and or Islamic beliefs, should NEVER be allowed to run our country. I am a die hard democrat, born and raised, and my grandparents swore by being Democrats. AND BEFORE I WILL VOTE FOR ANY HALF MUSLIM I WILL VOTE FOR REPUBLICAN, I WOULD RATHER LIVE IN THE GUTTER AND HAVE OUR WHOLE COUNTRY IN A GREAT DEPRESSION AND THE WAR GOING ON FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS, BEFORE I WILL VOTE FOR BARACK HUSSIENE OBAMA, OR RISK HAVING ANY MUSLIM SYSTEM IN PLACE IN OUR COUNTRY. I WISH THIS COUNTRY WOULD ROUND ALL OF US EUROPEANS UP, AND SHIP US ALL BACK TO EUROPE! I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING. AND IT'S ALL THE FEARFUL BRAINWASHED PEOPLE OF THIS UNITED STATES THAT WILL BE AGAINST MY POST HERE.

    • Posted By: hkjonus @ 08/25/2008 12:44:46 PM

      Spoken like a true Mormon minus the second "m".

  • Posted By: simonanunhappydem @ 08/25/2008 5:00:54 AM

    The thing is that because Obama is not Muslim now this is not material. I for one do not care what his religion is as long as he is honest about it. The problem is that he was not honest and lied about it. Same as he was dishonest about never having used a different name, which he did. And. I am uneasy about the news that he traveled to Pakistan, when he was 20 years old, using an Indonesian passport. I would really like someone to prove or disprove this. It should be easy: if he used his American passport it would have a Pakistani entry and exit stamp. If it does not have it he must have used an Indonesian passport, which would very much bother me.

    • Posted By: mcrochip @ 08/25/2008 12:39:18 PM

      And how, exactly, would a US citizen, born in the USA (Hawaii is a US state), obtain an Indonesian passport? Passports are issued only to citizens of the country... so a US citizen would carry a US passport. Duh.

  • Posted By: zayde @ 08/24/2008 6:10:42 PM

    We are at war with radical Islam,not with Christianity in any of its forms,nor with Judaism,
    and to have a Muslim in the White House is pure folly,as we cannot,at this time ,be sure who,exactly is out to harm us.I don't think this is profiling; it is just sensible until this is sorted out.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/24/2008 8:00:53 PM

      We are not at war with Islam.... We're at war with some radicals who call themselves Fundamentalist Muslim Terrorists. They are a teeny tiny minority of Muslims in the world.

      Don't think Obama's religion has anything remotely to with this problem He's been checked.

      • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 08/24/2008 8:51:12 PM

        Been "checked?"

        • Posted By: eliza5238 @ 08/25/2008 12:36:43 PM

          How has his religion been checked???

  • Posted By: Zealot @ 08/25/2008 3:08:12 AM

    simonanuhappy, if your mother re-married an atheist or a kabbalah follower when you were ten, does that make you an atheist or kabbalah(even when you never met your non-practising father until you were ten)? Why isn't the fact that Anne Dunham was an atheist been given prominence it deserves, given that young children more often follow their mother's beliefs? The school enrollment form not-withstanding(His step-father probably filled the form) he has never practised nor shown any Islamic ideology in his entire young life.. The only Islamic tag that we have come to know is what paranoic people like you have been trying to dig up.

    • Posted By: simonanunhappydem @ 08/25/2008 4:03:29 AM

      So if I disagree with you and stick to the facts I am paranoid...nice...What is said is that he was registered as a Muslim when he entered elementary school. hence, his statement that he was never a Muslim is not true. This is the only thing I stated and it is the truth, even if it does not fit your desire. If you have proof that the copy of his school enrollment that is on the internet, is fake then speak up. Otherwise accept the facts.

      • Posted By: mcrochip @ 08/25/2008 12:34:54 PM

        Barack Obama's elementary school registration form listing his religion as 'muslim' proves one thing... that his elementary school form listed his religion as 'muslim'. According to Fox News (used for extreme talking points), it was commonplace to list the religion of the father on the registration form. Even the Fox profile of Obama that aired last night confirmed that he was raised Christian for his whole life.

      • Posted By: Zealot @ 08/25/2008 5:35:58 AM

        simonunhappy..... everything you say is a....fact. What do you understand by 'fact'? Consider my argumentation: Your mother is re-married to a man who is a follower of whatever religion.....do you automatically become a follower of that man's beliefs? Give me a break. You claim to talk on behalf a a majority of 'US'. I don't claim to do that,but speak for myself. As to being gloomy, that is a mood you yourself has created.

  • Posted By: vindido @ 08/25/2008 11:40:37 AM

    What a croc!Is it possible that Newsweek could bend over any lower than it has in order to get obama elected.?Bt yhe way,his full name is barack Hussein obama.What happened to his middle name Newswek??Barack Hussein is pbly the only democraat that could lose to mcCain what with hte price of oil.Iraq,etc

    • Posted By: hkjonus @ 08/25/2008 12:34:28 PM

      All the standard Republicon tricks are not going to work this time around. In fact, they are going to back fire. Nothing more to post here about the election, its all just rhetorical at this point. LANDSLIDE in November. Welcome your new black president America.

    • Posted By: EveryoneHasBias @ 08/25/2008 12:21:08 PM

      What's John McCain's middle name? Why aren't you indignant that no one ever mentions that? Could it possibly be that you only want to use the middle name to further the perception of Obama as a Muslim?

  • Posted By: pm38847 @ 08/24/2008 11:46:18 PM

    Many false premises, to think that religion doesn't matter is to miss something truly important. People do not live in a vacum and desire to live simply by various laws that others arbitrarily decide to pass. All laws are based on something authoritative and our laws are based on Christianity. The Supreme Court, in a 1914 ruling, declared the U.S. to be a Christian nation and our laws are derived from the Bible (outdated idea isn't it?) and is evidenced everywhere in our nations Capitol (the 10 Commandments above the Supreme Court for example). Islam, on the other hand, is a religious organization birthed, advanced and maintained with the sword. Look at the majority of hot spots around the world, Islam is a common denominator. The Quran states that only Islam can bring peace. And peace at any price, ie. death, your death, is to be sought after. Obama, Osama, both Islamic names. Non Islamics, upon conversion take a Muslim name, Obama did not change his! Could it be because the only difference is one letter?

    • Posted By: mcrochip @ 08/25/2008 12:28:55 PM

      What an enlightened, open minded view of your racist beliefs. I'm amazed.

      I also would point out that, while the current religion of intolerance is perceived as Islam, just a few hundred years ago it was Christianity. The Crusades was pretty similar to what's going on now, it's just with a different group of religious zealots at the heart of it. Christianity is not a violent religion; Islam is not a violent religion... fundamentalist zealots are violent, and its a shame they 'blame' their religion for it.

      As for the stupid comment about Obama changing his name... even as disappointed in his father as Obama may be or has been, being named after someone or carrying a family name is an honor for most people. This is a reason why many fathers want sons... to carry the family name.

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/24/2008 7:59:33 PM

    Do you all really think our own authorities would allow someone to run for political office who was a viable threat to the United States of America? Are you truly that silly and scared to elect a black man for president?

    All this rubbish about Obama's maybe being a muslim is just that: FEAR of a Black President.

    He's NOT muslim. He's a practicing Christian. If you don't believe the US authorities who have vetted his background and given him clearance, then you all need your deluded heads examined.

    Rest assured that the powers that be behind the scenes have thoroughly checked his background. He never would have announced his candidacy if he hadn't been cleared. He is not lying about his religion - and if he was a Muslim as a child, he's certainly switched to Christianity as an adult and that's what matters.

    Are you all SERIOUSLY AFRAID that the President of the USA would be, secretly, a Muslim terrorist just because of the color of his skin and the fact that he lived in Indonesia as a child, and his dad was African? There are lots of muslims in Africa- they are not all militant fundies.

    We have Christians who are militants -- remember Oklahoma City??? That outfit was Christian and White Supremecist. Zioniists are equally militant and threatening when it comes to defending their controversial stake in certain lands in the Middle East.

    So get over yourselves - y'all need to get out of the US more and travel a bit and get to know people in other countries if you possibly can. We're all human - nobody, but for the rare insane criminals and a cadre of terrorists that live in the mountains of Pakistan or Afghanistan, wants to destroy anybody else.

    • Posted By: eliza5238 @ 08/25/2008 12:27:07 PM

      He's not Muslim, eh? Leave the Christian, religion, black etc out of this. That IS NOT the issue. Fear of a black president? Then why was everyone wanting Colin Powell to run for president. It's the man, not the issue of black, religion or whatevr you choose to bring up. Get past your predudice leanings. This is too important for that.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 08/25/2008 3:24:51 AM

      Notrouble, its not his skin color that offends us, nor even his religion, so lets not go there. We are accused of being racist, but it seems the only ones who brings up the race issue is people of color, and to me, that is not acceptable. To use one's ethnic or culture as an argument is invalid. The only thing we are concerned with is his politics, his plans for the country, and as long as he does not allow his personal ethnic beliefs to dictate how he carries out his responsibilities, we have no problem. Thats how most of us feel. Now, the question is would he be capable of doing that? Just because that is our criteria for acceptance to the office of president, does not, neccessarily, mean it would be his feelings, or even if that were his original feelings, would he be able to hold true to them? Now to his being a practicing christian, that is something only he and God know for a certainity, and if the majority of the people are willing to stake their lives on the possibility that he is, then keep one thing in mind: There was once upon a time another man who claimed to have all the answers to his country's problems, he was intelligent, but not wise, he was charismatic, he, also, is not around any longer, hasn't been since 1945, his name was Hitler. And before you draw the obvious, but wrong conclusion, no, I am not making a comparision, only voicing some doubts concerning his abilities to properly lead, and do we really want to follow where he may be leading?

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/24/2008 9:38:40 PM

      Islam is a death and slave cult. It has no redeeming qualities.

      How many muslim girls are murdered by their fathers, in "honor killings"? How many little girls are mutilated by their "female circumcision". How many women are disfigured by acid, by muslim zealots? How many people are imprisoned or executed for not following Sharia Law? It is a sick, sick society.

      NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 08/24/2008 8:33:18 PM

      "Do you really think our own authorities would allow someone to run for political office who was a viable threat to the United States of America?"

      Well, they certainly let Bush run - twice. Does that answer your question?

  • Posted By: Zealot @ 08/25/2008 3:32:31 AM

    simonunhappy....'Obama was a Muslim, as a child, proven by his school enrollment form in Indonesia. So there can be no discussion about this, unless we decide to disregard facts'

    What are the facts?; Consider this fact: His mother , Anne Dunham was an athiest and never impressed upon her children to follow any religion. Secondly, the argument that Obama Snr was a muslim cannot necessarily make his son one, considering that they met only once(when he visited Hawaii) and he was NOT a practising muslim. Thirdly, the school that Barack attended was a secular international school attended by many nationalities. What are your facts? Finally if you WERE a muslim and later converted to Christianity(which is not the case with Obama), does that still make you a muslim? You sound very gloomy and shallow, as your name suggests.

    • Posted By: simonanunhappydem @ 08/25/2008 4:21:33 AM

      Here are the facts. You can research this yourself on Google, there are a lot of other entries on it:
      http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/08/barack-obamas-indonesian-registration.html
      The fact is that he Barack Obama was registered by his step father in school as a Muslim child. That is the only thing I said, and this is a fact. It is also a fact that Obama said many times that he has never been a Muslim: clearly not true. Whether he is a Muslin now or not does not matter from this perspective. And, I never argued that he is.

      It is so nice that the Obama crowd always brands everyone who disagrees with them with an epithet in true Rovian fashion. So now I am gloomy and shallow. Well, I am gloomy because we will have chosen the wrong candidate in Obama. But shallow? Just because you disagree with me? This shows that you are not true democrats. Those who are, not only accept but welcome discussion and argument. Of course I should have noticed your screen name earlier: Zealots are never democrats, by definition..

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/25/2008 10:24:31 AM

        Your 'facts' are from a blog. A blog isn't a credible citation...it's like quoting wikipedia...

        • Posted By: valark @ 08/25/2008 12:26:22 PM

          But like wikipedia, they link to their sources, which are valid. That's like saying the encyclopedias or dictionaries of the world are not valid because they compile information from various sources.

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