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  • Posted By: Malta @ 08/24/2008 9:44:51 PM

    The Muslim religion/way of life is a threat to all Christians & non-Christians alike. Anyone that does not bow down to their God/Allah will be destroyed.

    Surah 8:12 Remember the lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them. (Interpreter Abdullah Yusuf Ali's footnote to the violent passage makes not mistake about the means. He explains: "The vulnerable parts of an armed man are above the neck. A blow on the neck, face, or head finishes him off.")

    Surah 47:4 Therefore when ye meet the unbelievers (in fight) smite at their necks. (The footnote explains: "When once the fight (Jihad) is entered upon, carry it out with the utmost vigor, and strike home your blows at the most vital points ('smite at their necks'), both literally and figuratively. (you cannot wage war with kid-gloves.")

    This two passages tells it all. There are many other passages that express the same. This is a fight against evil itself. " in dealing with non-Muslims, lying and deceit is permissible" under the Islamic doctrine of tagiya.

    We must stand and fight against this insanity!

    • Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 9:57:03 AM

      Ignorance is a great disease. I assume you know nothing about Islam or the process of revelation of the Qur'an. Maybe I'm wrong...
      The two verses you posted are about two wars (Battle of the Wells, and Trench respectively) that were fought 1400 years ago, and provoked by the 'unbeliebers.'
      I wonder what you do if you are attacked... from the look of it, you will fight even when you are not attacked. It's clear people like you support the Iraq invasion by the U.S. simply because 'they are Muslims.' Who is the insane one now?

  • Posted By: Karenn1 @ 08/25/2008 9:43:55 AM

    Show a me a good Religion thats been around two hundred years and doe not have a glutton for a leader.Religion is overrated God gave you a brain use it.

  • Posted By: Anju Chandel @ 08/25/2008 6:19:49 AM

    Though the US boasts of being the oldest democracy but the conduct of most of the Americans is highly hypocritical to say the least. They need to look at India and witness the most successful expression - experiment - of 'unity in diversity' at work.

    India's president is a Hindu woman; the prime minister is from a religious minority community, Sikh; leader of the largest national political party - Congress - is a woman, Italian by birth and Christian by faith. And these are not 'unprecedented' happenings in India's political landscape; my country's history is studded with numerous such examples.

    Therefore, people of America, look at India !

    • Posted By: Galasso @ 08/25/2008 9:18:22 AM

      I accept your comment as valid but recently saw a documentary on television where the caste system is still alive and well in India. Is this archaic social discepancy going away or just not as visible in today's Indian society?

  • Posted By: tippology1 @ 08/25/2008 8:27:16 AM

    Muslim or not Barack Obama is bad for this country because he is a bad person. Obama has fooled millions of people and I will be jumping for joy once all his shady, corrupt ways are on the national front. This man has lied, cheated mis-lead and fooled black and white america and has gotten aways with it. It is hi-time this fake individual and un-experience of a person running for office be shown the gate..

  • Posted By: Zealot @ 08/25/2008 5:29:33 AM

    ''The thing is that because Obama is not Muslim now this is not material. I for one do not care what his religion is as long as he is honest about it.''

    simonunhappydem are also you also bothered that Mcain committed adultery with his present wife when his former wife was indisposed? Is it a concern of yours that Bush lied to more 200million Americans that saddam had WMDs and Mcain DESIRES to continue on the same plan of action for 100 years in Baghdad, using our sons and daughters? Does it ever worry you that Mcain appears not 100% in control of his intellect and memory?

    If you are even half as patriotriotic as you pretend to be, these would be your main concerns. As it is, you are myopically fixated on the Obama-is-a-muslim narrative to see!

  • Posted By: theshrink @ 08/25/2008 4:44:37 AM

    Mr. Cose is ignorant. Islam and the U.S. Constitution are incompatible. Allah and the Christian/Judeo God are not the same. A Muslim can never pledge allegiance to the U.S. Constitution. Muslim is an ideology/religion that demands allegiance to Allah, making it impossible to pledge allegiance to the U.S. Constitution. Sharia law and the U.S. Constitution are incompatible. The question Mr. Cose asked is stupid!

  • Posted By: EKS25 @ 08/25/2008 4:32:08 AM

    If he was a muslim, he is liar. He said several times on different occasions that he is not and never had been a muslim.
    If somebody was a muslim and is a Christian now he can say that, he doesn't have to lie about it. We have a muslim congressman, nobody cares about his religion.

  • Posted By: Srba @ 08/25/2008 3:45:32 AM

    If America swallows this rubbish once again it will preserve the status quo and condemn America to its inevitable decline. America serves as the lighting house for freedom, opportunity for all and is the country others look up to, not turn their head from in disgust. Four more years of semi-Bush policies would decimate the opinion that we outside of the US have of it.

  • Posted By: Hunnit @ 08/24/2008 11:46:33 PM

    B. Hussein Obama is an Arab Muslim running for President of the United States, not a black Christian, as he says. He is a liar. In the Muslim faith and in the Koran, lies and deception are condoned for the advancement of the ideology. Get it straight folks.

  • Posted By: wanderlust @ 08/24/2008 11:09:27 PM

    90% of prisoners are Christian, America has the highest prison rate in th world, maybe the Christians need to clean house before they point the finger at other religions.

  • Posted By: Tommypie @ 08/24/2008 9:54:29 PM

    So what if Obama were a Muslim? Well, maybe he is. I noticed he was toting a Bible outside church today, so I guess he must be a Christian, eh? The reason a person of the Muslim faith may not be acceptable as president is that most people have a negative image of Muslims, primarily due to the 9/11 attacks and the likes of Osama bin Laden. Call it prejudice if you will, but I believe most Americans would be uncomfortable with a Muslim in the White HOuse. WHITE hOUSE.

  • Posted By: Malta @ 08/24/2008 9:44:27 PM

    The Muslim religion/way of life is a threat to all Christians & non-Christians alike. Anyone that does not bow down to their God/Allah will be destroyed.

    Surah 8:12 Remember the lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. Smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them. (Interpreter Abdullah Yusuf Ali's footnote to the violent passage makes not mistake about the means. He explains: "The vulnerable parts of an armed man are above the neck. A blow on the neck, face, or head finishes him off.")
    Surah 47:4 Therefore when ye meet the unbelievers (in fight) smite at their necks. (The footnote explains: "When once the fight (Jihad) is entered upon, carry it out with the utmost vigor, and strike home your blows at the most vital points ('smite at their necks'), both literally and figuratively. (you cannot wage war with kid-gloves.")
    This two passages tells it all. There are many other passages that express the same. This is a fight against evil itself. " in dealing with non-Muslims, lying and deceit is permissible" under the Islamic doctrine of tagiya.

    We must stand and fight against this insanity!

  • Posted By: americanme @ 08/24/2008 8:35:30 PM

    Fool's Gold...

    There is no upside to Senator Obama speaking out against anti-Islamic sentiments.

    Senator Obama has to represent the pressing needs and concerns of his constituency, which do not include an education on the many facets of Islam.

    However, from the secure position of the Presidency, the current President can speak out against anti-Islamic sentiments. Unfortunately, he also knows that there is not upside to these actions while Islamic Extremism exists.

    However, this doesn't prevent other groups or organizations from speaking out and campaigning against such sentiments. This includes special-interest groups.

    Senator Obama needs to continue to focus on telling us who "he is" and not on who "he is not."

    If a straight guy went around spreading the word that he was not Gay but there's nothing wrong with being Gay, people would begin to wonder why he was defending "not" being Gay so forcefully. Eventually, the question that would pop-up in people's heads would be, "Is he Gay?"

    ...again, Fool's Gold!

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/24/2008 9:40:22 PM

      funny you bring up the Gay comment. Hussein IS a switch hitter.

      NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/24/2008 12:00:18 AM

    Mega millionaires do not belong in the White House. They should be barred from running for President as a total conflict of interest.

    I don't care what religion they are - if they're Republican, you can bet they're corrupt, cynical and criminal.

    • Posted By: Tulku2 @ 08/24/2008 4:00:14 PM

      Hi. The most pertinent fact about old Joe Biden is that his net worth is 150,000 dollars. After over thirty years in D.C., he took out a second morgage to send one of his kids to college. And now consider....? The Clintons were in D.C. for eight years, okay H. Clinton is still Senator, i know that, but they are worth millions and millions of dollars. Hmmmmmm

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/24/2008 8:15:25 PM

        Yes, and they made the bulk of their enormous income during the Bush years....hmmmm indeed!

  • Posted By: Montedoro1316 @ 08/24/2008 1:11:18 PM

    So what if Obama were a Moslem? There is a good answer to that. If Islam were only a religion, like other religions, then the answer would be that there should be no difference. However, Islam is NOT a religion like other religions, and this is attested to by all Islamic scholars who say that Islam is a complete way of life for all of humanity. So, Islam is not only a religion, but also a totalitarian and imperialist ideology, that is, a political program to organize every aspect of life according to Islamic law and then, eventually, to impose Islamic law on the entire world, peacefully is possible, but by force, if necessary. All of this is laid out clearly in the Koran and in the sayings of Muhammad; and all Islamic scholars (e.g. Ibn Khaldun, Qutb, Maududi, Khomeini, Qaradawi, etc.) assert this openly. Therefore, all Moslems, even if they appear to be assimilated and peaceful, are rightfully suspected of supporting this imperialist ideology -- until they specifically repudiate it. After all, all Moslems claim to adhere to the Koran and to the sayings of Muhammad -- even if they have never read either. The situation is entirely analogous to a member of the Nazi party or the Communist party. Many of them did not know or care about Nazi ideology or Communist ideology, having joind the party for reasons of convenience. But, we are justified in suspecting them of supporting the Nazi or Communist ideology until they prove that they don't. Same with Muslims who claim that the Koran is the literal word of Allah and that the sayings of Muhammad are also holy writ.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/24/2008 7:53:03 PM

      I've never seen so many who know so much rubbish about Islam. It is not a political ideology; it's a religion. I guess "Republicanism" is a religion, though, come to think of it.

  • Posted By: RJPOP @ 08/23/2008 11:34:28 PM

    There has been discussion of Obama's muslim "roots". And everyone in the MSM conveniently relagates this to the "distant past". They then bring out his 20 years in a racist church as proof. Ok, if they think being a racist black person is better than being a moslem .....fine.

    But have the MSM thought about what the Moslems think about this? I have lived in Turkey, which is over 98% moslem, so I have an idea how they do things in that particular country. If your fathers ID card says "moslem" then your ID card says "Moslem". And even though it is a secular country, they have mandatory religion classes in public schools for anyone who has an ID card that says "Moslem". Has anyone checked whether he took the same kind of classes in Indonesia? CNN is happy to say that he never attended a "Madrassa". That does NOT mean, that he did not have religion classes on the moslem religion. Is that a huge problem? Not really, except for the fact that nobody is discussing it. If it is true, come out and admit it. Or CNN should INVESTIGATE it.

    In the mind of many many moslems, the child is of the religion of the father. And the phrase "once a moslem, always a moslem" would apply also.

    For everyone out there who is saying "this is not a big deal", well from an American perspective you are right. But from a moslem perspective he is either a "closet" moslem, or he is an apostate. The first is ideal in the moslem mind, the second is a death sentence.

    And for everyone out there who will refer to me as an "Islamaphope" I have to take issue with that. I prefer "Shariaphobe". I don't care if anyone wants to follow the moslem religion. I know my wife does. But we both agree that we cannot accomidate Sharia. And by not converting, I get to keep eating back and pork chops!

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/23/2008 11:42:48 PM

      Who cares if Obama IS muslim?

      I lived in Libya and I too know something about the Muslim world. Some of the best friends I ever had were Muslim. They are loyal, honest, hard working and loving people.

      It's the fundamentalist extremists that people here in the US confuse with "muslims" - and it's a terrible thing indeed. It does a huge part of the world a disservice - and look how much our currnet Administration has stirred things up in the Middle East with our stupid, ill-advised war.

      Thanks for your comments - it's helpful if peple actually read them! Muslims are great people, they actually gave us Mathematics - and wonderful art, decor and literature. Let's stop bashing those we know so little about. Most of you bloggers have never even set foot outside the US - and I venture to guess you've never really known anyone who is a muslim in your entire lives.

      • Posted By: NewDawn @ 08/24/2008 4:20:33 PM

        Well, I am a Muslim, born and Raised in Pakistan for 25 years. Moved to US with my family 11 years ago and right now in the process of enlisting as an Active Duty Army at age 36.
        With just this much info what would you like to label me. Some may say that they need more info before labeling me, and thats exactly what the point here is. Don't label just by reading the headline. Take an effort to inquire more. If you dont have time or resources to inquire, then give the other guy a benefit of doubt, because inAmerica you are Innocent until proven guilty (with exception of last 8 yars of Bush Regime). So take some time and learn.

  • Posted By: Tulku2 @ 08/24/2008 3:18:01 PM

    I apologize for posting the same thought twice. I was not registered when i submitted the first and thought my comment was lost. -Tulku2

  • Posted By: howsue @ 08/24/2008 2:13:07 PM

    Mr. Obama should be judged by his ability to lead this nation. He is naive and lacking in experience. It is also clear to the observer that he allowed himself to be molded by classic Jew Baiters such as Farrakhan, Jesse and Sharpton. I don't wan't my country run by associates of hate mongers who play the race card anymore than I wan't the KKK. The perfect ticket is McCain and Leiberman!

  • Posted By: rick007 @ 08/23/2008 6:57:27 PM

    The Koran and the U.S. Constitution are in direct conflict. This is why a Muslim can't hold office in the United States.

    • Posted By: whyme?? @ 08/24/2008 1:38:02 PM

      You've read the Koran? Admittedly, I have not, but I daresay that it is open to, at least, as many interpretations as the Bible. I suspect that with most of the world's religions, it depends on which interpretation you believe or were taught.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/23/2008 11:34:41 PM

      Since when have you read the Koran, buddy, and what possible relation could any religious text have with our US Constitution? You are a nutcase, go back and study more about world religion.

      Americans who think Christianity is the Way of the World are totally deluded. We are a pluralistic society that accepts all religions, all creeds, all colors, all people - including so-called "illegal immigrants" who came here at the turn of the 20th century and throughout our short history.

      Where are these anti-American thoughts and sentiments all coming from? Is our educational system totally failing us?

      man, this is scary. I didn't realize just how ignorant people can be in this "great" country.

  • Posted By: Braes @ 08/24/2008 12:39:09 PM

    Treason is the reason, some, have never trusted the Bush Crime Syndicate.
    Paleo-conservatives have always distrusted them. Fruit rarely falls far from the tree.

    In the BBC Radio Document program, The Whitehouse Coup, John Buchanan suggests President Roosevelt stopped the investigation for a political deal: "The investigations mysteriously turned to vapor when it comes time to call them to testify. FDR's main interest was getting the New Deal passed, and so he struck a deal in which it was agreed that the plotters would walk free if Wall Street would back off of their opposition to the New Deal and let FDR do what he wanted". [45]
    The 2007 BBC radio documentary The White House Coup said that Prescott Bush was connected with the plot.[45]
    On July 23, 2007, the BBC Radio 4 series Document reported on the alleged Business Plot and the archives from the McCormack-Dickstein Committee hearings. The program mentioned Bush's directorship of the Hamburg-America Line, a company that the committee investigated for Nazi propaganda activities, and the alleged 1933 attempt, supposedly led by Gerald MacGuire, to stage a military coup against President Franklin D. Roosevelt aimed at forcing Roosevelt to resign (or, failing that, to assassinate him) and at installing a fascist dictatorship in the United States. [5]
    Pedigree: Bush was born in Columbus, Ohio to Samuel Prescott Bush and Flora (Sheldon) Bush. Samuel Bush was a railroad executive, then a steel company president, and during World War I, also a federal government official in charge of coordination and assistance to major weapons contractors.
    Bush attended the Douglas School in Columbus and then St. George's School in Newport, Rhode Island from 1908 to 1913. In 1913, he enrolled at Yale University, continuing a family legacy as part of the skull and bones society; four subsequent generations of Bushes have been Yale alumni. Prescott Bush was admitted to the Zeta Psi fraternity while at Yale and Skull and Bones secret society.

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