Jeremiah Wright , Obama's "Minister of hate" for 20 years!
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strikes law and then wants us to sing "God Bless America" NO, NO, NO God DAMN America!
That's in the bible for killing innocent people, God DAMN America for treating our citizens as less than human."
Now if this was Mc Cain's "MINISTER" wouldn't this be on TV and in the NEWS each and EVERY day till the election. God DAMN RIGHT it would! Obama hates white people and since 99% of the rich who will have to pay higher taxes ARE WHITE great way to get us! He's the racist, going to this HATE filled church for 20 years as Wright says "US of KKK!" bull$hit, wake you up knuckle headed white liberals. Don't let this man and his socialist, white hatred RUIN America!
So What If He Were Muslim?
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Posted By: careerdaytrader @ 08/26/2008 1:15:15 PM
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Posted By: Gizmo @ 08/25/2008 11:23:33 AM
I think it is obscene to cast a shadow on the man because of his religion. I am more interested not in what he says, but in what he has done. the best predictor of the future, is the past. A study of the Koran would show, that being a Muslim is being a peaceful person. The radicals of today, are about as Muslim, as the KKK is Christian. He seems to be a good man, attacked by things he cant help. No one can help who his parents are, or where he was born. The only thing he can help is what he does, and how he does it. Find something real to argue about.
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Posted By: denmill @ 08/26/2008 12:55:38 PM
Tell that to Romney , one of the most qualified leader who was crush by the liberal media entities like Mr. Cose just because he is a Mormon. Last I have heard mormons have good financial and moral disciplines. Well! we do not have to worry about gays and welfare babies. I understand Romney did not even take his salary as the governor of Massachusetts, he gave the entire money to the State. What is wrong with that!!!!! They love America more than they love themselves. So, we do not have to worry about Ben Laden, Hamas, Hugo Chavez, Castro, Iran, And Russia. They don't do drugs and do not drink alcohol. Well! we do not have to worry baout crackhead (good cost saving). They do not have sex before marriage. So here again, we do not have to pay so much for teenage pregnancy and abortion. What is wrong about that !!!! Go Romney!!!!!!! Just like you save the Utah Olympics from disaster, we need your help as a VP to save America!!!!!!!
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Posted By: sieg6529 @ 08/26/2008 12:44:30 PM
Intersting how some people think the use of the Caps Lock key strengthens their arguments. Even more interesting is how much abject hatred we Americans have for each other. Grow up and have a civilized debate, exluding the oh-so-clever "demo(n)crats", "republican'ts", and any other indicators of immaturity.
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Posted By: Vote for Truth @ 08/26/2008 12:08:09 PM
Obama is Christian. Great. What if he was Muslim? Who cares. What if McCain was a Pagan or an Atheist?
You have heard everything that could possibly be in Obama's past and you know that he is as stand up guy. Where is the evidence of any wrong doing. Let's look at McCain.
Let's see here. John McCain's resume:
-Crashed 4 Military aircraft and got shot down, Graduated near last in Naval Academy class. (Outstanding Pilot/Military Career Check)
-Cheated on first wife and abandoned her and kids to marry rich lady 25 years younger.
(Family Values Check)
-Was part of congressional investigation under the Keating 5 scandal.
(Integrity Check)
-Called wife the "C" word, volunteered her into nude pageant, makes rape jokes and doesn't want women's right to choose.
(Women's lib Check)
- Voted against the Martin Luther King Holiday, and kicked black journalist out of press group for no reason.
(Equal Rights Check)
- Wears $500 shoes, flies around in the family jet and owns more homes than he can count.
(Down to earth Check)
- Sought endorsement of preacher that thought Hitler was doing God's work.
(Israeli Supporter Check)
- Seen in public with George Bush more than Laura. Votes 90% + with bush.
(Maverick, Loner "New Republican" Check)
- Believes that Czechoslovakia still exists, doesn't know Sunni from Shia, thinks Iraq borders Pakistan, Voted for the Iraq War, thought a banner labeled "Mission Accomplished" was a legal tender treaty.
(Foreign Policy Guru Check)
- Has voted against veterans benefits as a theme, but receives full Social Security and VA Disability. Did not even show up for new GI Bill vote and wants to re-start the draft.
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Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/26/2008 12:26:38 PM
Don't you see, though? None of that matters because he has a "white-sounding" middle name. Um ... I assume - not sure I know his middle name, but that's still enough to vote for him. Isn't it...?
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Posted By: denmill @ 08/26/2008 12:05:22 PM
Nice quote Mr. Cose "So what if he were Muslim"...We haven't fully accepted the notion that all religions should have equal access to the Oval Office. why don't you all liberal say the same thing about Mitt Romney and his Mormonism? He is obviously more qualified than Barack Hussein Obama. It goes both ways!!!!
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Posted By: bannister @ 08/25/2008 4:13:47 PM
"Of course, even if he were a Muslim, that should be no big deal"
No big deal? Didn't a group of Muslims blow up the World Trade Center just a few years ago? And now, you expect Americans to be SO open minded that they would elect a Muslim as President of the United States - the FIRST new president since 911???
I'm sorry, but I think that's asking a little too much of ANY nation, don't you? And does anyone expect OTHER countries to do this? Would a Muslim nation elect a Christian to run their country? Would the Chinese elect a white man to run China? Would anyone expect them to?
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Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/25/2008 5:01:54 PM
Wasn't it Christians who blew up the Murrah Federal Building in OKC? Therefore we can't have a Christian president, either.
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Posted By: bannister @ 08/25/2008 11:25:05 PM
No, actually it WASN'T Christians who blew up the Murrah Federal Building in OKC - it was government agents who believe in only God knows what (Satan? Money? Lizards? You're guess is as good as mine).
And while we're at it, it was the same inside crew that blew up the WTC. Whether Muslims (or Jews for that matter) were involved is unknown.
But my essential point - that human beings are tribal and want to be led by "someone like them" is 100% factual. American whites are not particularly evil in this regard - there aren't many black Presidents and Prime Ministers in Europe either. Or Asian for that matter. No, only the American people are expected to bow down to the great god of Multiculturalism and pretend to like it.
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Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/26/2008 12:01:34 PM
I think the tinfoil in your hat is seeping into that space where your brain was.
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Posted By: wanderlust @ 08/25/2008 6:03:54 PM
You left out the shoe bomber and mail bomber both Christians.. Funny how if your white and a Christian your a bomber but if your dark skin and Muslim your a terrorist.
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Posted By: biff biffington @ 08/25/2008 4:26:02 PM
Enter Your Comment
escaping religious persecution was ONE of the reasons THIS country was founded. THAT is why there is no religious "test'" in qualifying for President of the United States. Yes, the "radical" terrorist Muslims are in fact bad people. and yes, again, THEY have placed "negative connotation" on the name of their religion. But are you now saying that every single muslim on the face of the earth is a terrorist, because of the actions of one 'fraction' of them? Does this mean that Christians are terrorists (see crusades, see inquisition)? Of course not. finally. your comparison regarding the Chinese electing a white man is intellecgtually dishonest. If the man had a Chinese mother and a white American father, BUT DID NOT PRACTICE BUDHISM ... THEN you could attempt an analogy. All yours did was translate into IF YOU ARE MUSLIM, THEN YOU ARE NOT AMERICAN. And 'that' is the problem.-
Posted By: hsineexas @ 08/25/2008 5:08:47 PM
Thank you! Some people do have something intelligent to contribute! It's a miracle, some of us aren't really apes who can type, no offense to apes.
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Posted By: eliza5238 @ 08/25/2008 4:21:59 PM
My sentiments, exactly.
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Posted By: coach740 @ 08/25/2008 11:35:58 AM
How sad it is that in 2008 a presidental candidate is still trying to disprove vicious and untrue rumors. There is no evidence whatsoever that Obama is muslim, but people want to believe that he is as an excuse not to vote for him. It is easier to say that you aren't voting for him because he is muslim than to admit the truth to yourself--you don't want him because he is black. Either way it is disgraceful coming from those who proclaim to be so Christian. Jesus mingled with all and died to save all.
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Posted By: eliza5238 @ 08/25/2008 12:05:00 PM
I don't need a REASON to NOT VOTE for Obama. It has nothing to do with religion or being black.
I would have voted for Colin Powell in a heartbeat. It has all to do with the safety of the country. We don't know for sure whether he is muslim now or not but he was schooled in it as a child. This is public record. So keep the issue at hand.-
Posted By: EveryoneHasBias @ 08/25/2008 12:29:56 PM
You just contradicted yourself. You basically said that religion has nothing to do with your vote, and then suggested that electing Obama would put the country's safety at risk because he might be a Muslim, and therefore you can't vote for him. On top of that, you're once again using faulty logic to equate being a Muslim with being a Muslim extremist. Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that Obama is a Muslim (which he's not). He certainly isn't a Muslim extremist, so how would that put our country in peril?
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Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 08/25/2008 4:13:51 PM
Actually, I think that you misunderstood her comment. I believe that her reference to Colin Powell and the safety of our country refers to his national security experience - not his faith.
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Posted By: EveryoneHasBias @ 08/26/2008 11:46:33 AM
No, I think I understood her comment just fine, as I took it in context with the other comments she has made about how electing Muslim would be a security risk. In light of her other comments, the Colin Powell reference only defends the racial part of her argument, not the religious side.
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Posted By: j.n @ 08/25/2008 6:27:43 PM
Colin Powell has gotten over four thousand Americans killed and hundred of thousands wounded so bad that they would be better of if they were dead with his lies,I would vote for Hitler before I would vote fo that lying scum bag,but I can understand why you would.
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Posted By: JB619 @ 08/26/2008 11:16:05 AM
It's amazing that after all his years in Rev. Wright's church he can't quote a damn thing from the bible nor has learned anything. He can't even quote the 5 books of Moses by name!
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Posted By: JB619 @ 08/26/2008 11:06:08 AM
OBAMA IS A MUSLIM!! In Islam, if your father is a Muslim then you are a Muslim. Similar in Judaism if your mother is Jewish then you are Jewish. No questions about it. He might not be a practicing Muslim but he will always been drawn to Islam in some way, shape or form and Islam will always consider him a "lost member" until he comes back to his true religion. It's sad but true. The man doesn't even know who he is. He is so confused that he had to write a book about it!
In Audacity of Hope - Obama says he first knew who he was when he read about Malcolm X. When Malcolm X said he wished he could "get rid of every drop of white blood in his body", so he could be pure, Obama says he "felt the same way", and awoke to his crusade. So how does this represent Americans, and I mean all of them?
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Posted By: careerdaytrader @ 08/25/2008 3:50:49 PM
The rich should get a TAX BREAK - We are sick of COVERING the poor and middle classes SHARE of taxes!
Think you pay YOUR share of taxes? Why not find out the TRUTH. Go to IRS dot GOV and go to tax statistics. Find the number of tax returns filed and divide that INTO the total taxes collected. It's about $9,600 in taxes.
So basically IF YOU PAY less than $9,600 in taxes you are NOT, I repeat NOT doing your fair share of paying for Government! This number doesn't even figure that millions of returns are filed for kids or the poor so the REAL share that everybody else must cover is between $12k and $15k.
So I say if you are not MAN or WOMAN enough to even cover YOUR fair share then you have NO RIGHT TO ASK THE RICH TO COVER YOUR LAZY A$$es any more!
Top 5% of income earners pay HALF the tax!
Top 10% of income earners pay 2/3 of the tax!
You good for NOTHING, lazy, uneducated Democrats need to SPEND LESS of our US Taxes and CUT TAXES, do not even THINK of RAISING them anymore on THOSE OF US WHO SUPPORT this great country. Those NOT paying this amount you're welcome for COVERING YOUR SHARE for you! Don't even THINK about taking another penny from us!-
Posted By: sregis @ 08/25/2008 3:54:38 PM
our collective middle-class hearts bleed for you mr trader.
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Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/25/2008 3:58:00 PM
He says the same thing over and over.
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Posted By: careerdaytrader @ 08/25/2008 7:23:01 PM
Yes I do BUT its at least finally setting in. Few on here are complaining about paying too much for taxes or MORE than their fair share now that I've made it CLEAR that very few on here even cover THEIR fair share. It's easy for most idiots on here to say yeah lets tax the rich more. Many morons on here think the rich don't pay their fair share in taxes when its the opposite, WE CARRY this country on our shoulders.
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Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/26/2008 10:51:03 AM
You "carry" this country? Fine job you're doing - looked at the economy lately? Maybe it's time for you folks to stop doing the heavy lifting, and just shut up and write checks instead.
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Posted By: Twhit1007 @ 08/25/2008 11:23:47 PM
Really? okay, lets say everyone in the US that makes less than you do quits all of their jobs? Are you going to be able to day trade when your computer stops working because your ISP is off-line? You stand on the shoulders of all those "lazy" underpaid workers you detest and all you can do is piss all over them. Stop whining about your tax problems when you have more money than you need. Worried that you won't be able to afford that beachfront home when you retire?
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Posted By: ceriman @ 08/25/2008 6:02:18 PM
LOL! At first I thought trader was trying for satire, then I realized he really believed the nonsense he was spouting! Apparently he feels that someone earning less than the average tax bill shoud pay more than they make in taxes! And what if they can't do that? Do you want a return of debtors prisons?
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Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/25/2008 7:26:37 PM
Of COURSE he believes all that! He believes that money is the measure of human worth. I've actually known people like that - they *really do think this stuff*!! It's that good ol' American sense of entitlement. Someone who works hard and gets money is a good person. Someone who works hard and doesn't is LAZY (capitals in original). Fortunately, despite his command (from his position in power over me), I do indeed THINK about taking even more! ;^)
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Posted By: careerdaytrader @ 08/25/2008 9:08:05 PM
No I don't believe money makes one person better than another. I also believe somebody who doesn't even do THEIR FAIR share but expects the RICH to cover them and give them all kinds of freebies instead of working for them is a WORTHLESS human thief. Obama supporters are thieves. Because they are all high school drop outs, pot smokers and other morons at all levels they can't achieve success so they WANT what they can't even GIVE THEMSELVES. You Obama supporters are truly pathetic. I feel sorry for you and also America that its hard work ethic has flown out the window, we are no longer a free society as those of you who have the numbers and votes but are losers who don't make much, don't know anything are going to vote for a man who is using this class warfare to win, screw the smart, intelligent hard working rich and lets give it to us idiots!!!!! Obama 08 !!!!! You pathetic losers!
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Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/26/2008 10:43:11 AM
"Obama ... are all high school drop outs, pot smokers and other morons at all levels they can't achieve success"
LOL - OK. Must be why I see so many Obama stickers on late-model 7-Series Bimmers. Some rich folks manage to retain their principles and pay THEIR share, instead of whining about how put-upon they are. Good luck with the whole growing-up thing.
FYI, I am a very well-educated, successful white-collar professional, as are an awful lot of Obama supporters. But you knew that - your side just has no qualms about reverting to lies. As always, the end justifies your means, doesn't it? (no need to bother answering that last question)
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Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/25/2008 4:09:50 PM
I think you got a little spit on your Hermes tie, there, you poor, poor blighted beggar. People like you think you are compensated handsomely for your intrinsic worth and what you Contribute to Society. In fact, even if you work yourselves into the ground (and I'm sure your children are SO grateful for your absence), you are only able to amass your considerable wealth because you live in the society you live in. Your taxes finance the stability and security that keeps markets healthy, the education that keeps the population both productive and able to consume, the infrastructure that keeps goods moving - I could go on. The top 5% of earners SHOULD pay AT LEAST half the tax! You "I Got Mine" righties just don't get it. You are so desperate to cut off everyone on the rope below you, without realizing that you wouldn't have yours if they were forced to give up theirs. Good luck fighting the flat-earth flat-tax battle - bet your vote for Steve Forbes made you feel better than the heated seats in your SL500. You have all the sympathy you deserve.
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Posted By: eMCee @ 08/25/2008 8:58:11 PM
So What? It would be a 'so what' if Obama and his campaign didn't deny it. If Obama was raised a Muslim (and there's significant evidence that he was) why does he so vociferously deny it? His denial makes it far more than 'so what'!
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Posted By: Ezana @ 08/25/2008 9:10:22 PM
What evidence?
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Posted By: eMCee @ 08/25/2008 9:58:27 PM
And, of course, what's far more important is that we can expect Islam influenced behavior from Obama as president. He directly inserted himself during 2006 in the political process in Kenya supporting his Luo tribesman 'cousin' (I know they aren't actually related) Raila Odinga. Odinage has promised Sharia Law in Kenya and with Obama's influence (along with continual murder, rape, burning and violence of Odinga's Islamic minions) Odinga has now been named Prime Minister of Kenya.
See Odinga's supporters in action here: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/kenyas_killing_fields/index.html
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Posted By: Ezana @ 08/25/2008 10:57:50 PM
Odinga and Obama aren't related. I know Odinga claims that...where's your evidence that Obama did anything for this guy? Another blog? You realize that with this barrage of BS you repigs are spewing you're only succeeding in de-sensitizing people to your voice...it'll backfire.
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 11:10:31 PM
LOTS of evidence. Even video of him campaigning in Kenya for cousin Odinga. The Kenyan Govt. (written documentation) asked him to stop smearing their U.S. friendly govt. All you have to do is look. YES...he was involved.
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Posted By: Ezana @ 08/25/2008 11:19:25 PM
where is it? we're on the inter-web, I can look...is thooper theecret?!?!
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 11:45:46 PM
Do you know how to do research...oh I see...if Hussein says its not true then it isn't. You are a weak individual. I'll post likes for you, but will it make any difference to you??? I doubt it...TONS of info but here is one..........
..............................In August 2006, Mr. Obama visited Kenya and spoke in support of Mr. Odinga's candidacy at rallies in Nairobi. The Web site Atlas Shrugs has even posted a photograph of the two men side by side. More recently, Mr. Odinga says that Mr. Obama interrupted his campaigning in New Hampshire to have a telephone conversation with his African cousin about the constitutional crisis in Kenya..........
....read entire story at......http://www.nysun.com/opinion/kenya-connection/69273 ...............
Hows that for a "smear"? Ready to Vote McCain now???? You are a very weak debater.
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Posted By: Ezana @ 08/25/2008 11:59:15 PM
This EMAIL story is false too. The only evidence is a non-existant fax from a non-existent PAC called "friends of BO". Obama gave no money or support to Odinga. You're source is an opinion column that uses an anonymous email as its source. Hey I got an email from a prince in Nigeria should I send them money?
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/26/2008 12:02:14 AM
you are pitiful. And Boring...know how to google? Afraid you will go blind??? e-mail story??? you are weird.
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Posted By: Ezana @ 08/26/2008 9:16:37 AM
The Kibaki government IS repressive that doesn't mean he supports Odinga. Wow you're using arguments straight out of how to argue with a liberal. I didn't give up I just went to bed. I have a job that doesn't involve blogging. How are the 527's paying these days?
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/26/2008 12:12:03 AM
A report by Chicago???s WBBM-TV news team, which covered Obama in Kenya, shows Obama in Kenya making statements critical of the Kibaki government.
Two separate video segments in the news broadcast document that Obama spoke at the offices of Kenya???s oldest newspaper, the Standard, where he accused the Kibaki government of suppressing freedom of speech, and at the University of Nairobi, where he accused the administration of corruption.
The WBBM broadcast noted that criticizing the Kenyan government was "something [Obama] has done almost every day since he arrived in Kenya last week."
The news report also showed repeated clips of Odinga accompanying Obama at various speaking appearances in Kenya, so much so that the news broadcaster commented in the background that Odinga "has been at Obama???s elbow here fairly often."
The WBBM news team also interviewed on camera Kenyan government spokesman Alfred Mutua, who accused Obama of meddling inappropriately in Kenyan presidential politics
NOBAMA!!!
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Posted By: eMCee @ 08/25/2008 9:40:39 PM
Evidence?
From: http://laotze.blogspot.com/2007/01/tracking-down-obama-in-indonesia-part-5.html
"...according to Tine the teacher, Barry actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his time at the school. His teacher was named Maimunah and she lived in the Puncak area, the Cianjur Regency. "I remembered that he had studied "menjaji" (recitation of the Quran)" Teni said"
From: http://laotze.blogspot.com/2007/01/tracking-down-obama-in-indonesia-part-3.html
Classmate Rony Amir describes a young Barry Soetoro as enjoying playing football and marbles and of being a very devout Muslim.
"Barry was previously quite religious in Islam. His birth father, Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim economist from Kenya. Before marrying Ann Dunham, Hussein Obama was married to a woman from Kenya who had seven children. All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims"
This is eyewitness testimony from at least two people around Obama when he was being educated in Islam.
Obama's official site completely disclaims any association with Islam: http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/11/12/obama_has_never_been_a_muslim_1.php
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Posted By: Ezana @ 08/25/2008 9:47:09 PM
Some tinfoil helmet's blog is your evidence? sad...
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Posted By: eMCee @ 08/25/2008 10:03:22 PM
Oh, yes, I always forget. When faced with fact, just trot out ad-hominem attack. Sad.
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Posted By: Ezana @ 08/25/2008 11:01:54 PM
When you're primary source is a blog I can't help it!
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Posted By: eMCee @ 08/26/2008 12:01:23 AM
When your primary source is your own mewling, I can't help it either.
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 11:52:54 PM
weak...I'm waiting for your reply to my comments to you. Cat got your finger???
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 11:17:56 PM
want to see his school records??? They are available. Pics taken and verified as authentic by AP. They state his name is Barry Soetoro...his nationality as Indonesian...his religion as muslim. stated existence and contents of records are not a smear...a fact. This is a part of the evidence provided in the Berg lawsuit filed in Federal Court on Thursday. The suit contends Hussein is ineligible ti be POTUS. Berg is former Deputy Attorney General for State of Pennsylvania. Story is being followed by several MSM newspapers.
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 11:55:36 PM
I answered you below....afraid to look at facts???...Don't worry...nobody will tell Barry...Oh I forgot he is omniscient...you better be careful. Barry doesn't like the truth to be told about him.
NOBAMA!!!
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Posted By: Ganpat @ 08/26/2008 7:23:30 AM
A "referendum on race"? "Racial slurs"?
You are the guy, Cose, who is indulging in racial slurs - by taking it for granted that Obama running makes the election a "referendum on race". A huge insult to American voters !
Says who?
I would not vote for Obama no matter WHAT his race - because I think he is unqualified.
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Posted By: News and Notes @ 08/25/2008 9:59:21 AM
I wish Obama were a Muslim. The Muslim religion is far less radical than the Reverend Wright black superiority hateful angry version of Christianity.
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 10:04:08 AM
Wright was at one time, a member of The Nation of Islam. I suspect he still is. He and Louis F. are TIGHT.
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Posted By: ceriman @ 08/26/2008 3:37:17 AM
Bald faced lie. Rev. Wright was never a member of the Nation of Islam, and his only similarity to Farrakhan is being an angry black man with a big mouth and a penchant for saying the wrong thing.
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Posted By: mcrochip @ 08/25/2008 11:01:00 AM
Congratulations to Newsweek for publishing such a blatent attempt at smearing Obama. Just noting the number of purely racist comments this article prompted is an example of how easy it is to smear someone. Obama and company should sue Newsweek and the author of this piece of trash article for slander.
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Posted By: eliza5238 @ 08/25/2008 11:24:34 AM
Telling the truth is NOT smearing
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Posted By: coach740 @ 08/25/2008 11:40:05 AM
Since you claim to know the truth, state your source. If he were Muslim that would be a fact that is glaring and not just spead through internet emails.
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Posted By: eliza5238 @ 08/25/2008 11:48:46 AM
He was schooled as a child as a Muslim. THAT IS A FACT!!
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Posted By: ceriman @ 08/26/2008 3:32:27 AM
When his mother was working at a job in Indonesia, he attended a public school in Indonesia. Not a mosque or a madrasas, it was an ordinary grade school teaching the basics - reading, writing, math, etc., not religion. Then Barak and his mother returned to Hawai'i where he attended the top school in that state!
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Posted By: EveryoneHasBias @ 08/25/2008 3:11:20 PM
Actually, it's not.
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Posted By: sregis @ 08/25/2008 12:15:50 PM
maybe i'm missing somethig...where in the article does it assert obama is actually muslim?
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Posted By: Gwg1955 @ 08/25/2008 11:15:41 AM
To quote Obama directly from HIS book "Audacity of Hope" 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction". So if you wonder where this idea of him being a muslum comes from you need look no futher than the candidate himself.
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Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 11:18:28 AM
...And what is wrong with standing with the Muslims? Bigot anyone?
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Posted By: eliza5238 @ 08/25/2008 11:33:57 AM
This has nothing to do with bigotry. We have the safety of the country at stake and some of you have blinders on.
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Posted By: EveryoneHasBias @ 08/25/2008 12:02:39 PM
You say people have blinders on because they are accepting of Muslims. The analogy is more fitting to you, however, as you look only at the small percentage of Muslims who are extremists and ignore the vast majority outside that narrow view. People have done horrible things in the name of Christianity as well, but you surely wouldn't suggest that we can't elect a Christian because of this. All people have the capacity for evil, but that doesn't mean they all are. How can someone with such a closed-minded perspective possibly accuse anyone else of wearing blinders?
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Posted By: eliza5238 @ 08/25/2008 12:42:12 PM
Because I'm an American and I have great love for my country. If you don't fall into that category, that's your business!! Better safe THAN sorry.
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Posted By: ceriman @ 08/26/2008 3:21:22 AM
Taking that paranoia to its logical end, McCain was captured by the Viet Cong. How do we know he wasn't replaced by a sleeper commie agent, who will turn this country over to the Commies if he is elected?
To begin with, those wild suppositions of a muslim agent Barak or a commie agent McCain are farfetched without a smidgin of proof, and it doesn't matter anyway. The Constitution of the United States has an elaborate system of checks and balances that prevents any one person from taking too much power, or doing too much damage. Any "rogue president" would have trouble getting his agenda past Congress, and he could be impeached and removed from office, and even tried for treason if there was sufficient evidence.
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Posted By: EveryoneHasBias @ 08/25/2008 1:22:59 PM
If anything, you've just admitted to being closed-minded, and suggested that one must be closed-minded in order to love America. That's pretty disrespectful to the country for which you proclaim such love. Besides, it's just sad that your response to disagreement is to call me un-American. Anyway, your fears are based on falsehoods, so your "better safe than sorry" argument doesn't hold up. You could extend that logic to almost anything. When I drive to work tomorrow, I could get side-swiped by an SUV and die so I'd better stay home. Better safe than sorry. Oh wait, but if I stay home, lightening could strike my house and I could burn to death. I'd better go to work. Better safe than sorry. Oh, but if I go to work a terrorist might bomb my office building. I'd better stay home. Oh, what to do, what to do? Anything could happen, but that doesn't make it likely.
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Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 12:02:18 PM
It seems you people have selective memory. Where were you when Obama said to put more troops in Afghanistan( a Muslim country)?
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Posted By: hkjonus @ 08/25/2008 11:44:16 AM
He is saying that if Muslims become oppressed he would defend their civil rights. Do you know what happened to Americans of Japanese decent during world war II ? learn some history, and think beyond the surface interpretations you moron. Whites stood with the blacks during the civil rights movement in the 60's. that hardly made them blacks themselves. You're a simpleton, and that explains why you are so easily conned by the Republicons.
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Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 11:55:12 AM
You are replying to the wrong person.
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Posted By: Niaphoenix @ 08/25/2008 11:38:48 AM
Quoting snippets of FALSE e-mails and passing them on as truth is considered telling a LIE!!! You prove that you've never read the book, (probably not even the jacket), when you quote things that do NOT appear anywhere in the book. If you are a Christian, then you know that lying is breaking one of the Ten Commandments and you must one day stand before God and answer for that.
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Posted By: coach740 @ 08/25/2008 11:38:10 AM
That quote does not come from HIS book! I have read it and that quote, among many others circulating around the internet, are simply lies designed to make gullilble people swallow the hate. Read the book and find out for yourself.
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Posted By: Niaphoenix @ 08/25/2008 11:35:55 AM
You quote a snipet of a quote. The entire quote reads as follows: Actual quote from "The Audacity of Hope" [pg. 261]: Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. - End Quote
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Posted By: troytabor @ 08/25/2008 11:22:06 AM
What does the separation of Church and State have to do with how a person might vote based on a persons religious background? We're voting on a PERSON, not a law. The PERSON we're voting on has our lives in his or her hands and we MUST know everything about a person, including where that persons moral values come from. The religion a person believes in DIRECTLY affects the decisions he or she will make.
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Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 11:28:21 AM
...Just like Bush's religion led him to lie about WMDs in Iraq while he killed hundreds of thousands of them?
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Posted By: stematwork @ 08/25/2008 12:23:25 PM
if bush lied, then they ALL lied. i'm so tired of this mantra about bush lying. almost EVERYONE on planet earth thought there were WMD's in Iraq.
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Posted By: ceriman @ 08/26/2008 3:01:46 AM
Not everyone believed in the WMD lie. The Bush administration didn't believe it even though they used that lie. How do I know that? It is the way they conducted the war. Their priority was securing the oil ministry and airport, and made at best a half-hearted effort to find those WMDs that they knew didn't exist. In fact, the Bush adiministration was so unconcerned, they failed to secure the known conventional weapons at known Iraqui military bases, and that lack of security lead to looting, and then to those conventional weapons being used against our troops!
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Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 12:30:46 PM
That is if almost everyone on earth lived in America and depended on mainstream media.
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Posted By: troytabor @ 08/25/2008 12:53:30 PM
I've not really seen much that Bush has done that is very Christian, but yes, Bush's decisions are made partly from his beliefs in Christianity. I don't dispute your argument. He, and a lot of people, have probably lied about the WMDs. A persons religious beliefs are only a part of what makes up his or her moral character!
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Posted By: statsinacan @ 08/25/2008 11:47:09 AM
Fortunately, the election will not hinge on race or religion. More and more prople will realize that Obama is the most tax-and-spend liberal senator in decades, advocating huge government, more costly controls and gigantic spending projects. That will put en end to it.
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Posted By: ceriman @ 08/26/2008 2:51:22 AM
I much prefer Tax and Spend to the Republican Borrow and Spend policies that produced record deficits and more than doubled the national debt to 9 trillion dollars. When we needed the tax revenues to fight the War on Terrorists, Bush instead pushed through a tax cut, then another tax cut, and another, and another, Also, for 6 years Republicans controlled House and Senate and pushed through major spending increases - not just military spending, but major pork barrel projects benefitting the rich and powerful - and Bush didn't veto one single single spending bill. When the Democrats came into power 2 years ago, suddenly Bush was vetoing everything, can't allow Dems to take credit for actually helping people!
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Posted By: hkjonus @ 08/25/2008 12:23:53 PM
I prefer tax-n-spend to the bush spend-n-spend-more. this is the same old routine. the republicons are leaving us another huge deficit ala reagan/bush-1. the democrats will have to raise the money to pay for the indulgent party they've been having. the old "tax-n-spend" slogan sounds good but it smacks against reality. the last time we had a Dem Prez/House/Senate, we had peace, prosperity,$1.25 gas, and a budget surplus. what a fcking mess!!!
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Posted By: Justmethinking @ 08/25/2008 12:03:24 PM
I'm not voting for him, because he is a democrat. End of reason/story.
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Posted By: sregis @ 08/25/2008 12:10:20 PM
you must be so brimming w/ pride after two hugely successful republican presidencies! if only we could vote for bush again!
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Posted By: amendment2man @ 08/25/2008 12:38:00 PM
He is not doing badly at this point. the future will be kinder to him and his legacy. Wow who are you going to complain about when he's gone? who can you blame that your 70iq son didn't get into Harvard?
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Posted By: ceriman @ 08/26/2008 2:37:53 AM
Bush Jr. will go down as the worst president ever. He has appointed inept cronies who have made a total mess of FEMA, the EPA, and the State Dept. The sheer number of scandals far outnumber those of the Harding administration. He got us into an unneccessary war by lies that diverted manpower away from fighting the real terrorist threat, and his inept cronies made a mess of Iraq after our brave soldiers did their job, forcing them to remain far longer than would have been necessary had they started with a sensible plan. .
With the help of a Republican dominated Congress, He managed to double the national debt to 9 trillion dollars.He has presided over the biggest drop in the Stock Market since the Great Depression, signed the deregulation bills that lead to the current mortgage meltdown, and presided over the greatest number of bank failures since the Great Depression, Oil and fuel prices rose higher than they ever did under Carter, and the economic downturn is far worse and has lasted far longer than the so-called Carter Malaise. His efforts to boost the economy increased deficit spending but didn't boost the economy, The richest got much richer, but average wages went down and unenployment went up.
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Posted By: jeffreylebowskijr @ 08/25/2008 1:12:47 PM
Are you serious? The future will regard him far more harshly once ALL of what has happened on his watch is fully brought to light. I fully believe that Bush and many of his insiders have committed very real crimes (both against U.S. and international law) and hope that they will long be held up as examples of what happens when the corrupt manage to seize power. What an affront to our constitution and their own professed religious beliefs. Study up, people!
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Posted By: silverspiritdancer @ 08/25/2008 12:13:34 PM
I am a democrat and I will not vote for Obama. I will suppor McCain!
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Posted By: westdude @ 08/25/2008 12:15:26 PM
Excellent article Mr. Cose. It's about time someone address this issue. Thank you. Again, so what if he were a Muslim even though he is definitely not. Some of you who called your self American, should be ashame of your self for making this even an issue. You all should start worrying about McBush with his McSame policy toward our economy more rather than having an Islamophobia on whether someone is a Moslem or not. You should worry about how our economy is affecting us and the rest of the world. You all should worry about how some people can't even afford having to buy a loaf of bread to feed his family in this country. You all should worry about how are we going to pay for our 3 trillion dollars debt that will pretty soon be bloated up to another 2 trillion dollard courtesy of Fannie May and Freddy Mac. Guess who made all of this happens? Our fearless leader who will be replaced by someone who can't even remember how many houses he has. If McBush can't even fathom how it feels being poor, what makes you think that he will know how to take care of the economy so that we can all live comfortably in this great nation. With more Tax cut? I'm a republican who don't believe in big government but unfortunately our republican party have been hijacked by a whole bunch of NeoCon/NeoNazi who believe that government should control everything and government should be listening to all of your conversation, regardless whether you are guilty or not. I will vote for Obama at anytime even "IF" he were a moslem and I know for a fact he is not. I will not let some idiotic ignorance thugs dictate how or what I should believe. I love this country too much to ever let that happens. Also FYI, I'm a proud American Christian.
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Posted By: ceriman @ 08/26/2008 1:57:43 AM
Boy, are you out of date! The national debt is now over 9 trillion dollars and growing, and 70% was acquired during 3 presidencies - Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush 2. Over half of that debt was acquired while Republicans controlled the Congress and the Presidency!
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Posted By: simonanunhappydem @ 08/25/2008 12:35:04 PM
Well, you dislike the Bush regime for the many bad things it did, and we are in agreement on that. But implying that Obama knows what being poor is is way off the mark. He has never bee poor in his life. Same as McCain. And I have not seen anything credible from any of the two candidates on how they would solve our economic problems, debt included. Neither of them has a clue.
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Posted By: irishbelle @ 08/25/2008 12:19:16 PM
First of all in this country we have separation of church and state. Secondly we are all free to practice whatever religion speaks to us as individuals. to say that a Muslim can't be president is like saying a woman
an African american a Native American an Asian american and all their different religions cannot become president. It says that only a wealthy WASP can become president. who was president when 9/11 happened? President Bush- a Christian. His religion didn't prevent or help things now did it?-
Posted By: simonanunhappydem @ 08/25/2008 12:39:18 PM
The question about Obama is not his religion but his honesty and integrity. This is related to his religion as he repeated;y said on the record that he has never been a Muslim. This turned out to be false. He also stated in his bar application that he never used a different name. This also turned out to be false and he could be disbarred for this if we had a bar association with any guts and principles.
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Posted By: ceriman @ 08/26/2008 1:48:35 AM
What is false is all the swiftboat liars spreading false rumors and slander to try and bring him down. Apparently, relying on facts just isn't sufficient for the Neocon con artists.
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Posted By: rdoudna @ 08/25/2008 1:31:19 PM
You don't know what you are talking about do you? Do you think Barry is his legal name? My friends and family call me by a different name than what I go by professionally. I don't use this name. Barack told people to stop calling him Barry when he went off to college.
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Posted By: katjones37 @ 08/25/2008 1:12:28 PM
Two problems with this.
1. Even if Obama was ever a Muslim -- which isn't the truth -- I thought we could all convert from whatever faith to Christianity?
2. What kind of nonsense is that Barack Obama has used a different name? That's sheer bs.
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