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  • Posted By: Findingtruthinpolitics @ 08/25/2008 2:34:46 PM

    I absolutely believe that Obama is Muslim, and therefore dangerous. He only started practicing Christianity when he knew he was going to get involved in politics. Why else would he not wear the American flag pin on his chest, or hold his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance? Also, Barack Obama recently finished a $500,000 total overhaul of his 757. As part of the new design, he decided to remove the American flag from the tail... What American running for President of the United States would remove the symbol of his country? And worse, he replaced the flag with a symbol of himself... Obama is such a despicable human being.

    • Posted By: ceriman @ 08/25/2008 9:16:32 PM

      When the heck did wearing a flag pin and placing a hand over your heart and saying the Pledge of Allegiance become an official part of Christian doctrine? Can you quote one single scripture to support this new "christian" doctrine?

      Jeez, he forgets a piece of jewelery for one day, and all of the sudden you are accusing him of treason? Sorry, but patriotism is not measured in the number of flag pins, the size of your flag, or how much "stars and stripes" are on your clothes.

    • Posted By: Auzziebird @ 08/25/2008 3:25:07 PM

      Why are Muslims any more dangerous than Christians, Athiests, Hindus, Buddists, Sikhs or Scientologists? Your ignorant remarks are only exceeded by your lack of tolerance. May God (or whatever higher power you believe in, if you believe at all) have mercy on your soul.

  • Posted By: careerdaytrader @ 08/25/2008 9:10:56 PM

    Democratic National Convention - Olympic games are over, let the MORON Games Begin!

  • Posted By: swat68 @ 08/25/2008 2:47:27 PM

    Some of the comments on this website clearly demonstrate the serious decline of the American school system. Comments are filled with hate, ignorance and intolerance. All that said, American's have a arrogrant view of themselves -- that is why the rest of the world hates us. Not for our "freedoms" but because of our arrogrance and hypocrisy. This country was founded on the the belief that people should be free to worship whichever "God" they choose. Yet Christians travel the world erasing local cultures and converting others to their beliefs as though it has been proven that their God is the only one true God. Look at what has been down to the Native Amercians as well as those in the African nations in which religious cleansing and holy wars between christians and muslims continue to this day. I was raised as a Catholic during my earlier years due to my father's beliefs, however I was later converted to an Episcopal due to my mother's beliefs. Today I consider myself spirtual as I believe in a "higher power", however I do not consider myself as religious as I don't believe that I need to follow a book or someone's interpretation of a book to know right from wrong. There is a separation of church and state in this country -- rightfully so, given the opinions expressed on this site. For those of you who seem to forgot the origins of Christianity -- let's not forget the Crusades in which the Catholic Church beleived it had to right to go to heart of Muslim world and force conversion, steal from the citizens and occupy those countries. Let's not forget the Spanish Inquisition. Let's not forget the Holocust. All of those atrocities were committed by so-called Christian rulers.

    Barack Hussein Obama is not a Muslim. He was not raised as Muslim, even as a child. He is not responsible for the comments made by his former pastor -- whose comments, though crass - are not that far off base. America was attacked on 9/11 mainly due to our involvement in middle east matters, our presence on their lands in the form of military bases, etc. How would you feel if Iran, China, or any other country had military bases here in the US??? Black men were unknowingly injected with and experimented on with Syphillis -- so why is it so unbeleivable that a segment of the population believes that HIV/AIDS was an experiment on wild? So let's not be shocked that someone has called us out on it.

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/25/2008 4:08:14 PM

      Excellent post.

      • Posted By: rusty10313 @ 08/25/2008 4:44:55 PM

        Have another glass of kool-aid and sit back and wait for the next attack. If you spent 1 hour honestly seeking the truth about islam, you would be suprised. We, "Americans", are not the bad guys here. We are the only country in the world that shares it's wealth in times of disaster, and opens it's doors to the world. Why is it that not 1 muslim country allows a single bible to distributed? We are free........they hate that.

        • Posted By: ceriman @ 08/25/2008 9:08:01 PM

          No, the US is not the only country to share its wealth in times of disaster, and the only reason it might seem more generous is that it has more wealth to share. And if you had actually tried to find the truth about Islam, you would have found that a major tenant of their belief is "Zakat", giving alms for charity, and it is considered as important in Islam as praying to God 5 times a day and making a pilgrimage to Mecca. As for not allowing bible distribution, that is only true for the theocratic Muslim states like Saudi Arabia and Iran, not the more secular Muslim states like Turkey, Lebanon, or even Iraq under Saddam's rule.

    • Posted By: not-fooled-by-slick-talking-charlatans @ 08/25/2008 3:50:04 PM

      I read this comment nodding my head the entire time. Thank you for posting an honest and accurate portrait of true Americanism. I would bet that those who disagree have never considered why the "world news' shown on American television only shows international news if the United States is somehow involved. Our arrogance is truly shameful.

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/25/2008 4:00:23 PM

        It's shameful and all over this page. I hope one day to wake up and not read so much hatred of a man in the name of God.

  • Posted By: Kulture Kritic @ 08/25/2008 2:40:40 PM

    You don't need to be a republican in order to know that Obama is either dangerous or deceived.

    • Posted By: ceriman @ 08/25/2008 8:47:58 PM

      You don't have to be a republican to be dangerously misinformed or deceived. But it helps.

  • Posted By: airforcemom @ 08/25/2008 2:51:13 PM

    My talk? My son is about to be shipped to the Sudan and I see the very people he may give his life for lying about a good man.
    Yep, I am one angry airforcemom and I have every right to be.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 4:01:22 PM

      God bless and protect your son....Hussein Obama does him a disservice by attempting to legislate failure in the Middle East. Your son and the rest of his fellow warriors deserve a Commander-In-Chief. John McCain will be that. Barrack Hussein Obama is a silly little sissy, who puts personal interests above anything...including the safety of this country and her citizens.

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: ceriman @ 08/25/2008 8:29:03 PM

        Legislate failure? Sorry, but Obama was not the one who decided to divert troops from hunting down BinLadin by starting an unnecessary war under false pretenses. and it was Rumsfeld & Co. that made no plans to restore order to Iraq, opening the way for Al Qaida to gain a foothold in what was a secular regime with a ruler that distrusted Bin Ladin. If anyone has been "legislating failure" it has been the Bush II administration.

  • Posted By: EagleJim @ 08/25/2008 2:53:08 PM

    Barack Hussein Obama. The Christian Moslem.

    • Posted By: Keepinguponfacts123 @ 08/25/2008 4:01:44 PM

      How' that American education working for you?

      • Posted By: ceriman @ 08/25/2008 8:18:00 PM

        Not too well, obviously. "Christian Muslim" is oxy-moronic, like "Catholic Protestant" or "Jewish Nazi" or "Marxist Capitalist" or "Freedom loving dictator". Whats next, "Christian Athiest". maybe?

  • Posted By: finnland 2007 @ 08/25/2008 3:02:52 PM

    I differ with you on that one. Have you read the Quran?
    If you had, you know that a Muslim in the White House is totally unacceptable. It is in God we trust, not Allah

    • Posted By: ceriman @ 08/25/2008 8:09:03 PM

      It isn't God we trust, it is the Almighty Dollar. If you don't believe me, just try paying for your groceries with a God.

      Which brings up a point - Why don't Christians protest against putting God on their Mammon? Could it be that we are really a society of secret Mammon worshippers?

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/25/2008 3:59:10 PM

      Allah is God. Allah is the arabic word for God, even used by Christian Arabics.

  • Posted By: star3 @ 08/25/2008 7:57:34 PM

    Gosh, its busy in here today! Didn't anyone have to go to work or school? Its great to see such a lively discussion going on. Just hope everyone survives it without resorting to negative tactics. ...Who am I kidding!

  • Posted By: wgtoddSR @ 08/25/2008 5:10:23 PM

    Heck he took the US of A Flag off his Plane, He Will Be a Change we be can belive in ,I myself Already see that :,IM not Voting for Obama/binladin

    • Posted By: TJ - Boulder @ 08/25/2008 7:39:44 PM

      As far as I'm concerned the American people seem to be more interested in the trapping of Nationalism than anything that has to do with liberty. Flags on planes, flags on lapels, hands on hearts which saluting the flag. Give me a break! You folks are fine with the government spying on you, undressing you at the airport, listening in on your phone conversations, telling exactly how to live your lives. Wjhat happened to give me liberty or give me death. Flunking sheep!

    • Posted By: hsineexas @ 08/25/2008 5:24:43 PM

      Shucks darn Bubba, by golly don't forget to vote for that other guy! Heck!

  • Posted By: douglassoileau @ 08/25/2008 6:38:22 PM

    who says this is not a Christian Nation ??? This Nation was founded by Christians on Christian beliefs. The world has not appreciated this fact but are enveous of America's blessings. Why is it these third world countries still live in the stone age ? Because they worship false gods and have pagan beliefs. Everyone in America has benifieted from our blessing from above but don't want to acknowledge them. Why isn't it that no one is dying to get into China, Russia, India, are these Muslim nations ? It's because they are ruled by force and ignorance....... Thank Yaweh (God), for America where all can worship as they see fit , pagan or Christian.

    • Posted By: TJ - Boulder @ 08/25/2008 7:25:22 PM

      douglas - Whew! I guess you told us. But, really, God to speaks to each of us in the language we best understand - so you obviously have heard God telling to be a bigot? I choose instead to practice loving my neighbors irregardless of their belief systems. And so I wish you the best.

  • Posted By: rusty10313 @ 08/25/2008 3:56:58 PM

    So What If He Is A Muslim? So everything! It is politically correct to say that the muslim religion is a "peace loving" religion. That is a load of crap. Take a few minutes and read some of the koran. It REQUIRES practicing muslims to hate all other religions. Take a look at what is being taught, right here in the USA. Muslim schools are teaching the same hate that they are in the middle east. It is time that we wake up. We are at war, wether you realize it or not. A few minutes of "open eyed" investigation will bring the truth into the light.
    There are indeed "peace loving" muslims, but they are not "practicing" muslims, but rather "secular" muslims. When you understand the difference, the truth becomes clear.

    • Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/25/2008 4:28:42 PM

      "Muslim schools are teaching the same hate that they are in the middle east. "

      Well, it's a darn good thing Christian schools are teaching good ol' American hate. Can't lose THAT arms race...

      • Posted By: hsineexas @ 08/25/2008 5:35:20 PM

        There are verses which can be found in the Bible that are considered hateful toward non-Christians, but many of these are disregarded due to the fact they may have been mis-interpreted. There are, however extremist Christian who insist on following the Bible word for word. How are extremist Muslims any different?

        • Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/25/2008 7:23:29 PM

          Skin color, for the most part. Oh, and not being Christians - a crime of equal severity.

  • Posted By: wgtoddSR @ 08/25/2008 5:10:52 PM

    Heck he took the US of A Flag off his Plane, He Will Be a Change we be can belive in ,I myself Already see that :,IM not Voting for Obama/binladin

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/25/2008 5:39:34 PM

      He did not take the flag off of his plane, he replaced the Norh American Airlines Logo with his own, there is still a flag on his plane.

      • Posted By: Findingtruthinpolitics @ 08/25/2008 6:06:06 PM

        No, Barack Obama recently finished a $500,000 total overhaul of his 757. As part of the new design, he decided to remove the American flag from the tail... What American running for President of the United States would remove the symbol of his country? And worse, he replaced the flag with a symbol of himself...
        Don't believe me? See the pictures for yourself at The Patriot Room >> Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:11:07 AM by Bill Dupray; or at Airliners.net and look for ATT39884862.jpg

        • Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/25/2008 7:22:15 PM

          Your "no" is in error - raddave is right. The American flag was the logo of the AIRLINE that owned the plane. The plane DOES, as do all American commercial airliners, still fly the stars and stripes. Show me the flag on the tail of McCain's plane.

        • Posted By: wanderlust @ 08/25/2008 6:34:17 PM

          McCains airplane has no flags on it, wheres your outrage?

        • Posted By: wanderlust @ 08/25/2008 6:27:11 PM

          So your saying nationalism before freedom of choice. you have no clue what your talking about do you

    • Posted By: lionssmile @ 08/25/2008 7:14:08 PM

      The site is obviously biased. For Heavens sake they are selling t-shirts with Obama in mouse ears. If you are going to be anti Obama at least do that because of his positions and not for some trumped up BS. Even the article you site says his campaigned removed it to put the symbol of his campaign on it. Big whoop.

    • Posted By: wanderlust @ 08/25/2008 5:43:21 PM

      where did you get that lie from fox news or talk radio ?

      • Posted By: bojack27 @ 08/25/2008 6:00:28 PM

        No here is the link to the story.... it didn't come from fox news...

        http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70236

        • Posted By: wanderlust @ 08/25/2008 6:07:48 PM

          haha the who report came from Fox News blogger Bonny Kapp. lol

  • Posted By: BeauJoe @ 08/25/2008 1:42:50 PM

    According to The Book of Revelations the anti-christ is: The anti-christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything...OBAMA??

    • Posted By: Keepinguponfacts123 @ 08/25/2008 2:04:44 PM

      BeauJoe...you better read this link it will help you on your journey to find the anti-christ.

      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/antichrist.asp

      • Posted By: j.n @ 08/25/2008 6:44:24 PM

        Even if he can find the link he will still have the same opinion because he knows that he is lying to start with,but he will reach the low information voter just the same as if it was true..

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/25/2008 4:11:16 PM

      It would be impossible for Revelations to state that the anti-christ would be a man of Muslim descent, since Islam was founded four hundred years AFTER Revelations was written.

    • Posted By: Husker84 @ 08/25/2008 2:01:48 PM

      You are truly hysterical. I'm sure that you make your fellow Republicans proud.

    • Posted By: EveryoneHasBias @ 08/25/2008 1:55:13 PM

      Wow, please stop believing everything you read in your email. The term "anti-Christ" is not mentioned anywhere in the Book of Revelations. On top of that, no description of the sort you've listed is mentioned in the Bible. This is especially apparent since the Book of Revelations was completed about 400 years before Islam was founded.

    • Posted By: brunnjon @ 08/25/2008 1:47:09 PM

      Well, since your bible is a lie, I have nothing to worry about.

      Wow...

  • Posted By: max in fl @ 08/25/2008 6:28:54 PM

    What are the facts? What was the reward for? When was it given? Maybe he did something that deserved a reward. It's your point so make it.

  • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 08/25/2008 6:18:21 PM

    This election for President of the United States is much too important to continue arguing and name calling. This is one of the most critical elections that I can remember. It is time to get past the useless chatter and get to the real issues that we face. Until we can open a respectful dialog and really address the problems that this country faces, we will continue to see our country decline morally, economically, and politically. We are a country of intelligent , hard working and generally compassionate people. There is no reason that we cannot work together to solve our problems. Together we stand - divided we fall.

  • Posted By: hatawa @ 08/25/2008 3:22:59 PM

    Since Islam is a political movement, in the guise of a religion (study it's roots), I have to say that it does indeed matter if a candidate is associated with Islam or not. It would be the same if Hitler declared Nazism a religion.

    • Posted By: ceriman @ 08/25/2008 6:14:30 PM

      In a way, Hitler DID do that, he insisted that all good Aryan Christians should help him complete the work of Jesus in eliminating that evil jewish race. (yes, it was nonsense, but it was his nonsense) He then went on to define some Christians as not Christian enough when they opposed his genocidal warmongering, rounding up Adventists and other pacifist groups.

  • Posted By: bhorne1976 @ 08/25/2008 6:13:40 PM

    How is this election going to be a referendum on race?? If Obama doesn't win, does that mean the U.S. is racist? Voting for someone because of their skin color is racist, whether it's not voting for Obama solely because he is black or casting a vote for him solely because he is black. There will be a higher percentage of whites who vote for Obama than blacks who vote for McCain. This isn't about race, it's about who is the best candidate to lead our country!

  • Posted By: bhorne1976 @ 08/25/2008 6:13:03 PM

    How is this election going to be a referendum on race?? If Obama doesn't win, does that mean the U.S. is racist? Voting for someone because of their skin color is racist, whether it's not voting for Obama solely because he is black or casting a vote for him solely because he is black. There will be a higher percentage of whites who vote for Obama than blacks who vote for McCain. This isn't about race, it's about who is the best candidate to lead our country!

  • Posted By: wegan2008 @ 08/25/2008 5:09:57 PM

    Hello Mr Cose,
    I guess you were bored and out of ideas. It happens to every journalist once in a while. There was no need to revisit a story that is no news at all. Obama is not only a christain but even had some problems with his pastor live on your TV. what more do you want? You as a journalist should have already judged that the average American Knows that Obama is a Christian. Politics breads stupidity and that is why Mccain would see Obama and call him Paris Hilton. Just let the sleeping dogs lie relax and watch history uncover even if you have nothing to write.

    • Posted By: bojack27 @ 08/25/2008 6:07:51 PM

      yes let all of us close our eye to the fact that he lied and stay in a church that gave a reward to Luis Farrakan..... go ahead and go to sleep on facts...

  • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 08/23/2008 10:34:35 PM

    "We havn't fully accepted the notion that all religions should have equal access to the Oval Office?"
    Don't lecture us with this "we" Americans just Suck (still) horse crap!
    That remains to be seen in this election and when (if ) Obama blows it, it won't be about his faith! There are too many issues of great import to our future!And there are people who can blow it for him! Like Biden! Like Hillary or the other Clinton.
    WE HAVE FULLY ACCEPTED THE NOTION THAT anyone running for this high office is going to get ground by the two party system!
    Americans don't need the lecture from the AMERICANS SUCK FIRST crowd. we know what we are doing. We are a great people and this is a fantastic country!
    We DO NOT want to see a return to the conditions which permited a Willy horton or a bill ayers on a bombing rampage! And if a black moslem can help us, bring him out!?
    Where is he?
    Why isn't he running?

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/23/2008 11:27:41 PM

      Americans like you suck first. And foremost.

      Obama-Biden 2008

      PS I'm white, catholic and very devoutly patriotic.

      • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 08/24/2008 7:06:46 AM

        So you DO see and experience how the DNC hate propaganda works? there are probably other Americans you think suck! All according to the DNC menu of people they attack! the DNC is not about unity.
        The Americans Suck First crowd is not going to lecture me...
        I lioke my fellow Americans! You are a great Aerican! Spread the word!!

        • Posted By: NewDawn @ 08/24/2008 4:32:30 PM

          So you say that you love all americans meaning YOU LOVE
          The baby killer mom who just got an abortion
          The guy who just got done having sex with his male partner
          and many more who are protected by the all inclusive DNC when they are thrown away by the Exclusive White Boys Club called GOP.

          • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 08/25/2008 5:50:33 PM

            Actually, you can love someone and not condone their actions. It is not necessary to turn a blind eye to the declining morals of American society. It is also not my place to judge anyone. However, it is my place to vote for the candidate that I feel best represents my values. I personally believe that Mr. Obama has developed a relationship with Jesus Christ and that any Muslim connection that he may have had in the past is just that - in the past. With that being said, our social, fiscal & national security views differ greatly and thus, he would not be the best choice to represent my interests. I admire Mr. Obama for his accomplishments and can respectfully agree to disagee with his politics. Take a lesson.

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