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  • Posted By: random black guy @ 08/25/2008 4:55:13 PM

    I've spent 13 year sin the USAF and served my country well and honorably. I've endured hardships growing up in the south becuase of my mized heritage, i still endure ignorance from people today, people we have sworn to protect, and i gladly endure hardships from serving my country. But, the bigots and racists posting these hateful comments on this article are really turning my stomach. Thank you america, thank you for erasing the sucess we've endured as a people by continuing to perpetuate this hate.

    • Posted By: eliza5238 @ 08/25/2008 5:50:09 PM

      Just because we don't believe in or trust Obama as a candidate doesn't mean we are racists or hate mongers. Every American writing on this column has a right to belive like they wish even if it doesn't go along with what you believe. It doesn't make them racists or any other hate filled word you want to attach.

  • Posted By: Tiffany Robbins @ 08/25/2008 4:47:11 PM

    When we cant even refer to the terrorist as Radical Islam terroirst then yes it does matter he has ties to Isalm. If had addressed it in the beginning I dont think it would have been a big deal However he just denies denies denies. He should have know that and addressed. He is far to radical in his policies not to even consider that it would be a big deal unless he was counting on Americans being "polical correctness and their desire to keep up with the Jones" by acceptin Diversity and Islam with open arms so they can tell their frineds yes of course I support the Africasn American Isalmic candidate.... You are sheep

    • Posted By: ceriman @ 08/25/2008 5:33:06 PM

      Since that accusation is not and as never been true, of course Barak would "deny, deny, deny"! Duh!

      Of course, the swiftboat liars and smearmongers are out in force, because they know they can't win an honest debate.

    • Posted By: Keepinguponfacts123 @ 08/25/2008 4:56:18 PM

      I'm sorry...were you referring to BUSH/CHENEY '04?

      • Posted By: hsineexas @ 08/25/2008 5:18:30 PM

        I would much rather be a SHEEP than a HATEFUL BIGOT! And for Pete's sake, that is the most poorly written post I have ever seen!

  • Posted By: rick007 @ 08/23/2008 6:55:52 PM

    The Constitution and the Koran are in direct conflict so a Muslim can't become President

    • Posted By: Saltydog_0 @ 08/25/2008 5:29:37 PM

      The same can be said for the Bible. In fact the same can be said for just about any religous, policical or philisophical writings. Especially those that are 500 or 2000 years old. Your choice to focus only on the Koran simply shows your bigotry.

  • Posted By: Tulku2 @ 08/24/2008 2:31:53 PM

    Permit me to translate "experience" and "he is a Muslim" into white, ignornece for you, Mr. Close. BTW, i am white:

    "Barak Obama lacks experience being a white man. His father was Muslim and so Obama will never, really be able to properly hate Muslims the way I allow myself to hate Muslims. You gotta hate somebody if you fear you are below average as I fear myself to be. I have a space in my head for hare and I feed it regularly. I am encouraged to indulge myself in hatred by the leader of the last eight years. Where is Obama's hate???? He lacks experience."

    Hope that translation clears up the confusion about what is meant when people complain about his lack of "experience". The Constitution, of course, says who is qualified and Obama is an almost 50-year-old, brilliant man who taught to Constitution of the United States to law students at the U. of Chicago for five years. So, yeah, all he lacks is hate toward he proper people. Note please those who most often accuse him of lack of experience. They are the ones most invested in hate.

    • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 08/25/2008 5:08:30 PM

      Comment: Your comments are a symptom of what is wrong with America today. People from both political parties are closed minded. It is much easier to call names and slap on labels than it is to have a respectful dialog. At this time, I do not plan to vote for Mr. Obama, but it has nothing to do with his race. Many of my black friends and neighbors, know me to be respectful of their heritage and loving to them as fellow human beings. I happen not to agree with Mr. Obama's political or social views. His lack of critical experience also concerns me. If truth be known, Mr. McCain would not be my first choice either. His views just most closely align with my own. I am a social and fiscal conservative and will cast my vote based upon the candidate that I feel best represents my views. That is after all what this process is all about. We should all learn to respect the ideas of others. We can be civilized and agree to disagree.

  • Posted By: max in fl @ 08/25/2008 5:03:47 PM

    This is ridiculous, his father was not in his life, his religious upbringing has to be tied to the people that RAISED him. Were his grandparent Muslim, did they drop him off at a Muslim place of worship? I doubt it. You have to be IN the person life to have religious influence. I for one would not go to a different place of worship than the people raising me. Then he met Michelle was she Muslim, no.

    You can have character traits of your father even if he is not in your life, your father's religion cannot be inherited. Religion is not in your genes.

    Since that smear tactic doesn't work let's go to his accepting his nomination at a house where the owner was a terrorist when Obama was FOUR. By the time they met he was a respectable professior with a horrible past. There is not such thing as repentance in the religious world is there. Father please forgive me because your children will not.
    Not good enough let's throw in Wright because he MUST have repeat ONE SHEECH FOR 20 YEARS. Why because youtube looped one speech and that was his LIFE's work.

  • Posted By: rjpraml @ 08/25/2008 3:56:06 PM

    WHO IS KIDDING WHO HERE? CATHOLICS ARE NOT BOMBING MUSLIMS NOR DO THEY PUBLICLY CALL FOR ALL MUSLIMS TO BE KILLED NOR DO THEY THREATEN ANYONE WHO WILL NOT CONVERT TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH. THE SAME HOLD TRIED FOR PRESBYTERIANS, BAPTISTS, AGNOSTICS ETC.
    THE BEST WAY FOR MUSLIMS TO CHANGE PEOPLES PERCEPTION OF THEIR RELIGION IS TO STAND UP AND DEFY THE FUNDAMENTALISTS WHO WANT TO KILL ANYONE WHO IS NOT A MUSLIM. NEWSWEEK WOULD NOT DARE COMDEMN MUSLIM FANATICS, BUT HAVE NO PROBLEM BASHING CHRISTIANS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THE CHRISTIANS WILL NOT COME AFTER THEM. CHRISTIANS CONDEMN FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIANS, WHITES HAVE STOOD UP FOR BLACKS, SO DON'T TELL ME MODERATE MUSLIMS SHOULD NOT STAND UP AND CONDEMN THE RADICAL MUSLIMS. AS FAR AS OBAMA IS CONCERNED, HE IS VERY HAPPY TO USE BOTH HIS OLD RELIGION AND HIS COLOR TO DEFLECT ANY CRITICISM OF HIS POLICIES AND POSITIONS. I WANT A PRESIDENT WHO WILL LEAD THE COUNTRY, NOT A WHINER.

    • Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/25/2008 4:27:36 PM

      If all Muslims are the same, are all Christians the same, too? If so, then I think your white sheet is showing a little, there, White Christian Brother.

      You say all Christians aren't the same? Ever occur to you the same MAY be true of Muslims?

      Besides - you people are letting your eye drift off the ball - there is no evidence that Sen. Obama is anything but a good, lock-step Christian like the rest of you.

      • Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/25/2008 5:00:10 PM

        Apologies - this was the right response to the wrong post. To you, I only say that Sen. Obama didn't raise either his religion or his race, nor does he "use" either for political reasons. Why not lay the blame at the feet of those who ARE injecting these irrelevant issues into what is ostensibly race-and-religion-neutral American politics; i.e. the Republicans?

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/25/2008 4:00:05 PM

      Have you ever heard of this little thing called the Crusades? We were the terrorists hundreds of years ago...

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 4:21:45 PM

        The Crusaders saved Europe. Without them all of Europe would have been over run by the mohammed scum. GOD BLESS the Crusaders....BTW.....The Knights of Templar were not wiped out...they went underground, and became The Masons...George Washington and most of our Founding Fathers were Masons. Mohammed best beware....the Knights are still around.

        NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/25/2008 4:11:44 PM

        Reading the papers, we're doing pretty good now too. Just look at these blogs. the very people who hold fear want to destroy.

  • Posted By: Tulku2 @ 08/24/2008 2:41:33 PM

    Being a white person familiar with the history of the middle east, permit me to translate for you, Mr. Close? The two things most held against Obama from the mouths of white and also of certain religions are these: "Obama is inexperienced and he is a Muslim". It matters not when it is pointed out he has more experience to elected office than H. Clinton. It matters not when they are told Obama taught the Constitution of the United States for five years to law students at the U. of Chicago. It matters not that Obama clearly is deeply touched by his Christian relegion. No amount of sense will budge them and it's because you don't
    know the code. Here is what they really mean:

    "Obama lacks experience being a white man. Obama's father was a Muslim and so he will never be able to muster the hate i feel for Muslims. I have a place in my heart for hate and i feed it regularly. Obama does not hate who i hate. I can not trust Obama to hate. Where is Obama's hate???!"

    Hope you now have a deeper understanding of what these good people suffer.

    "Obama lacks experience being a white man.

    • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 08/25/2008 4:59:45 PM

      Your comments are a symptom of what is wrong with America today. People from both political parties are closed minded. It is much easier to call names and slap on labels than it is to have a respectful dialog. At this time, I do not plan to vote for Mr. Obama, but it has nothing to do with his race. Many of my black friends and neighbors, know me to be respectful of their heritage and loving to them as fellow human beings. I happen not to agree with Mr. Obama's political or social views. His lack of critical experience also concerns me. If truth be known, Mr. McCain would not be my first choice either. His views just most closely align with my own. I am a social and fiscal conservative and will cast my vote based upon the candidate that I feel best represents my views. That is after all what this process is all about. We should all learn to respect the ideas of others. We can be civilized and agree to disagree.

    • Posted By: Abdurazaq @ 08/25/2008 10:05:39 AM

      Great comment.

  • Posted By: swinko05 @ 08/25/2008 4:58:13 PM

    I know, the fact he sat in Rev Writes church with his family for 20 yrs,is no reason to fault him, I must be a racist, correct?
    I think I would feel better if he was a law abiding Muslim, then a hate-mongering racist like Rev Write.

  • Posted By: rufftrader @ 08/25/2008 4:27:15 PM

    Some people are just stuck on stupid. Some here are playing the (Muslim card) to hide the fact that they dont want a Black man in the White House. These politicians are all the same, yes even Obama. There are real issues and concerns out there. This nation needs to move forward and leave crap like this in the past where it belongs. Look I dont have a preference of who sits in the oval office because all politicians are basically the same.

    • Posted By: bojack27 @ 08/25/2008 4:54:14 PM

      I suggest that you get to know each candidate instead of remaing willfully ignorant on subjects concerning, faith, policies, morality, economics, abortion, gun-control, Supreme Court Judges, foreign policy, international trade, immigration, health-care, and a whole lists of things that effect the american way of life....

  • Posted By: obamasuxx @ 08/25/2008 4:37:21 PM

    I thought Lord Barack Obama the most merciful was supposed to bring us together with his great message of change....

    I guess you have to be a village idiot to believe that now don't you....

    • Posted By: Keepinguponfacts123 @ 08/25/2008 4:53:16 PM

      Yes, your right. The mighty "Grinch" will be THE ONE.

  • Posted By: biff biffington @ 08/25/2008 4:15:36 PM

    To those who parrot "empty suit" I challenge you to state the intellectually shallow McCain's positions IN DEPTH... OTHER THAN.... p.o.w. my friends.... prisoner..... my friends...... abortion....... my friends.....i know how to win wars.
    give me SOMETHING of substance.... ANYTHING..... (but what can you expect from a man 894 out of 899 classmates.

    • Posted By: Keepinguponfacts123 @ 08/25/2008 4:50:34 PM

      John McCain....did you notice when he smiles he looks like The Grinch.

  • Posted By: gene960b @ 08/25/2008 2:47:43 PM

    My reservation stems from his use of the Koran to take his oath of office as a Senator. And the public statement that he would use the same book to take the oath of office as President. Here is a man that went to a church for twenty years and didn't discover that it preached racial hate mongering untill the reporters mad an issue of it, then blew it off essentially. Sad commentary for the leader of our country.

    • Posted By: createdequalchrissy @ 08/25/2008 2:54:30 PM

      Have you had your head in the sand for the last 6 months? Did you NOT see a picture of Obama being sworn in as a Senator with his hand on HOLY BIBLE?????????? Are you one of those who always believes what he HEARS without actually having proof? Sad commentary for an american citizen who will elect or de-select someone based on hear-say.

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/25/2008 4:07:09 PM

        You will never convince the neocons that Obama is not Muslim--totally pointless argument. I've tried and have just ended up wanting to beat my head against a wall. They will believe any chain email their friends send them...you'd think they'd check out snopes.com once in awhile...noooo....

        • Posted By: Keepinguponfacts123 @ 08/25/2008 4:46:54 PM

          You know what they say "YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID"

    • Posted By: Amanda in NC @ 08/25/2008 4:02:11 PM

      Sorry Gene, you are dramatically, completely wrong. Mr. Obama did not take his Oath of Office on a Koran. Keith Ellison, a Muslim, took his oath for his seat in the House on a Koran... a Koran which belonged to Thomas Jefferson.

    • Posted By: EveryoneHasBias @ 08/25/2008 2:52:24 PM

      He didn't take the oath on the Koran. He took the oath on a Christian Bible, the same book he would use to take the oath of office as president.

  • Posted By: rufftrader @ 08/25/2008 4:18:32 PM

    some of you closed minded people are just stuck on stupid. Lets be real ok. common sense should tell you that Barack is not a muslim but I suspect that those who dont want to see a black president uses the Muslim card to cover up their deep seeded bigotry.

  • Posted By: Findingtruthinpolitics @ 08/25/2008 2:36:31 PM

    I absolutely believe that Obama is Muslim, and therefore dangerous. He only started practicing Christianity when he knew he was going to get involved in politics. Why else would he not wear the American flag pin on his chest, or hold his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance? Also, Barack Obama recently finished a $500,000 total overhaul of his 757. As part of the new design, he decided to remove the American flag from the tail... What American running for President of the United States would remove the symbol of his country? And worse, he replaced the flag with a symbol of himself... Obama is such a despicable human being.

    • Posted By: swat68 @ 08/25/2008 2:51:43 PM

      You're being ridiculous. Why is wearing a flag lapel an indication of someone's religion or patriotism. Do you wear a flag pin every day of your life? 99% of Americans no longer stand for the national anthem nor put the hands over their hearts or even take off their hats. The pledge of allegience is not recited in many schools. Get over it!

      • Posted By: bree855 @ 08/25/2008 3:40:56 PM

        Obama made the comment that he wasn't wearing the flag pin because he didn't want to take sides. Now you would think that someone running for president of the United states of America, would be on Americas side. Hmmmm ????????? You better take your blinders off before it's to late !

        • Posted By: raddave @ 08/25/2008 4:05:20 PM

          Obama said he didn't wear a flag pin because it became a substitute for true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are important to our National security.

          • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/25/2008 4:36:42 PM

            good answer...big fat lie...but good answer non the less.

            NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: bree855 @ 08/25/2008 3:28:23 PM

        He said he didn't wear the lapel pin because he didn't want to take sides ! Now if you we're running for president of the United States of America. Shouldn't you be on their side !!!!! Some of you better take your blinders off and see the real deal here !

      • Posted By: Auzziebird @ 08/25/2008 3:04:01 PM

        Obama, a despicable human being?! I guess that makes you Atilla
        The Hun, then

    • Posted By: ddee in Fl @ 08/25/2008 3:11:58 PM

      You really should educate yourself about the Muslim religiion. Not all Muslims are bad people, there have been many evil people from many religions. It doesnt make the religion evil . It make the person evil. I mean lets be honest here. If a Baptist man went on a killing spree(which it has happened) do we blame the baptist religion ? Or do we blame the person doing the killing. There Muslims claim it is in the name Alla when it is actually the leader of the group that they belong to. So put it where it goes. Blame the person, not the religion. As for flag pins and flags that matter where is John Mc Cain's flag pin ? Also, if you were really interested in weither Obama does hold his hand on his heart during the pledge you would have looked around at some of the news sites minus faux news and you would have found out that he does the pledge at his townhalls. I have yet to see McCain doing this. Also where is McCain's flag in all of his ads? All he does is show his name with a star, if you want to be silly here. Isnt the star a symbol for the Chinese? Maybe he's a convert. See how silly this whole muslim flag pin stuff is? I love my country and I have NEVER worn a flag pin or flew the flag at my home. Y'all are just looking for things to hate him for. I feel like this if you want to hate Obama because he is Obama fine thats your choice. But dont charge him with items that your guy doesnt do.

    • Posted By: EveryoneHasBias @ 08/25/2008 3:02:42 PM

      First, your suggestion that all Muslims are dangerous is ludicrous. You're letting the actions of the few cloud your perception of the many. Second, whether or not someone wears a flag pin does not determine his level of patriotism. You don't have to clothe yourself in the flag to love your country. The photo you're referring to with his hands clasped in front of him was taken during the National Anthem, not the Pledge of Allegiance. He has said that he was raised to sing during the National Anthem and put your hand over your heart for the Pledge. Whether you agree with this or not, at least get your facts straight. Third, the style of the flag design that he removed from the plane was a registered trademark of the airliner, and so he was not legally permitted to retain it. It's his campaign plane, why wouldn't he put up his campaign logo? Your desperate attempts to cast Obama as unpatriotic only work with those already inclined to believe them.

  • Posted By: airforcemom @ 08/25/2008 3:10:33 PM

    Posted By: Findingtruthinpolitics @ 08/25/2008 2:36:31 PM
    Comment: I absolutely believe that Obama is Muslim, and therefore dangerous. He only started practicing Christianity when he knew he was going to get involved in politics. Why else would he not wear the American flag pin on his chest, or hold his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance? Also, Barack Obama recently finished a $500,000 total overhaul of his 757. As part of the new design, he decided to remove the American flag from the tail... What American running for President of the United States would remove the symbol of his country? And worse, he replaced the flag with a symbol of himself... Obama is such a despicable human being.


    None and I mean NONE of the above are true facts.
    I realize there is probably nothing I can do to change your mind about what you perceive to be the truth,
    but you might want to have at least a cursory galnce at the website:

    http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/

    • Posted By: Auslander @ 08/25/2008 3:36:29 PM

      I had heard that Obama didn't hold his hand over his heard during the playing of The Star Spangled Banner (which is fine; there is no requirement to do that) but I hadn't heard that he had also done so during the Pledge of Allegiance. When did that happen?

      Don't you think that the flag-on-the-tail thing (assuming it's true) is a poor way of judging an individual--i.e. it's just judging him by symbols and rules rather than by content. ...Kind of like the Pharasees judging that first centrury Jewish fella who ate with sinners, rejected the religious authority, and insisted on doing the work of the people on the Sabbath

      • Posted By: Findingtruthinpolitics @ 08/25/2008 4:34:37 PM

        You are correct - I meant Star Spangled Banner, not The Pledge. Thank you for correcting my error. I don't want to spread false rumors, even if I disagree with his views.

    • Posted By: EagleJim @ 08/25/2008 3:54:00 PM

      Right, Airforcemon. Let's refer to a politician's self-promotion website to get the real truth. C'mon, this is politics. Anyone who believes political stances to be the same as empirical truth is blindly foolish.

  • Posted By: oklahomamom @ 08/25/2008 4:09:02 PM

    Can you say Sleeper Cell? Isn't that what they do? Blend into the american way of life?

    • Posted By: Keepinguponfacts123 @ 08/25/2008 4:25:52 PM

      Please refer to AskPlus...below

      Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/25/2008 15:47:23
      Comment: The point of the article was that really stupid people say he's hiding something. Please re-read.

    • Posted By: biff biffington @ 08/25/2008 4:18:11 PM

      Just wondering,
      Was Timothy McVeigh in a sleeper cell? As you are in oklahoma, i thought you might know.

  • Posted By: elisem1896 @ 08/25/2008 4:07:05 PM

    It is an issue because Islam is a cancer to everything it touches, and to root it as deeply in our country as the presidency would be like deliberately giving our nation lukemia. I know it is not a politically correct thing to say, but I am not the only one who is thinking it. THAT is why it matters. This nation has gone so far downhill in the last 8 years that we probably wouldn't come out of it as a whole.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/25/2008 4:12:26 PM

      I'm pretty sure you're what makes America sickly.

      • Posted By: eliza5238 @ 08/25/2008 4:23:21 PM

        AskPlus, you better look at yourself.

  • Posted By: THE_MEDIA_CZAR @ 08/25/2008 4:19:44 PM

    when we can begin to weigh morality rather than social and religious imagery, we can then begin to build a trust that reinforces all religions and world views. truth through peace, please. obama aside, the spectacle of american elections, swarming with the omni-bias of the media, must begin to cease so we may find truth in spoken word and see soul in the eyes of our leaders. i am frightened that we have been consumed by the labels so much that we are blind. love and understand your neighbors. question and test your leaders.

  • Posted By: oklahomamom @ 08/25/2008 4:10:42 PM

    Can you say "Sleeper Cell?" Isn't that their objectives, to blend in with the american way of life...it's not like they don't do that.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/25/2008 4:13:54 PM

      If you read your own blog, you would see people like you don't want anyone to blend in. This country is sick.

  • Posted By: topcat2001 @ 08/23/2008 6:50:42 PM

    For all the talk of democracy, Americans are at their core racial and religious bigots. I predict they will never elect a black man.

    • Posted By: ChristopherL @ 08/23/2008 7:12:37 PM

      So being against the bigotry of Islam makes one a bigot?

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/23/2008 7:36:59 PM

        YES it does...I looked in the mirror...And I saw one. Please show me a human that as no bigotry, and you will name a LIAR. Islam is the spawn of a Fallen Angel and a pedophile warrior. FACT.

        NOBAMA!!!

        • Posted By: deedatkahn @ 08/23/2008 8:16:46 PM

          islam speaks for itself go at the fbi list of wanted criminals and see how many muslim you will see there and ask those who have lived in muslim societies if they fear letting their kids go play on their without fear of being killed ,raped or kidnapped

          • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/23/2008 9:41:56 PM

            How many muslim girls are murdered by their fathers, in "honor killings"? How many little girls are mutilated by their "female circumcision". How many women are disfigured by acid, by muslim zealots? How many people are imprisoned or executed for not following Sharia Law? It is a sick, sick society.

            NOBAMA!!!

            • Posted By: j.n @ 08/25/2008 11:33:04 AM

              When it comes to christianity and religion neither one has any place in politics and should not be mentioned at all,when Kennedy ran the gripe was that he was Irish and catholic,now it is he is part black and we do not know his religion,how ignorant can man be.

              The catholic church has one of the most brutal histories as any religion on earth,the catholic church said that it was ok to enslave the Native Americans and take their land because they were not christians,it was ok to enslave the Africans because they were not christians.

              One way that the Native Americans that were captured and put under slavery by the spaniards could become free was to convert to christanity,this one Native chief that the spaniards we getting ready to hang was told if he converted to a christian his life would be spared,the chief thought for a second and ask his captors if christians went to heaven and their answer was yes,the chief said go ahead and hang me because no way do I want to be around christians.

              • Posted By: Doug-P @ 08/25/2008 3:26:14 PM

                I find this whole thing pretty much unbelievable. I served this country as a soldier to uphold the Constitution of These United States. I am white, of mostly European descent. One of my best friends was African American, a Muslim who joined for the same reason I did. To serve his country. To intimate a Muslim would not serve this country based upon extremist religious reasons is insane. Judge the person for his values, not the book he carries to church. Besides the fact Obama is a Christian anyway, and Thank God not some extremist sect, I would be proud (not matter what faith he professed) to stand behind him in any endeavour he stood for.

                • Posted By: Dave in NM @ 08/25/2008 4:12:35 PM

                  Thank you, Doug-P. First, for your principled service to the rest of us, however undeserving many on here are of calling themselves Americans, and second for speaking up in the defense of rationality. Your breed is all to rare, and becoming rarer.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/23/2008 7:37:47 PM

      Sure we will....but not the mohammed messiah.

      NOBAMA!!!

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