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A Respectable Russia

Vladimir Putin's war has intensified the debate over his nation's future.

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  • Posted By: The genius @ 12/08/2008 9:08:52 AM

    MrLatvia is an aggressive racist. Recollect: the Latvian arrows were vanguard armies of communists when they have made revolution in Russia in 1917. Recollect: the Latvian armies in structure of elite armies of fascists in 1941 - 1944. The mass executions made by these Latvians.
    Now deprivation of passports and many rights of Russian in Lithuania. Human rights are broken and it is an attribute of democracy in Latvia, more all similar to fascism.

  • Posted By: MrLatvia @ 09/05/2008 8:32:55 PM

    What everyone seems to forget is that Russia (whether it's called The Soviet Union, the USSR, Czarist Russia or the Gulag Republics of PooTinstan) IS and always has been a Terrorist Nation - in the 20th century it was the leading Terrorist State on the planet... remember?
    As I've said all along, Bush attacked the wrong area of the world with Weapons of Mass Destruction - duh - look who's sitting on a pile of them right next door to Europe. The 3 Stooges (Chairman Poo Tin, Dim Medvedev and a plaster-cast statue of Stalin) took on Georgia because it only has an army of 37,000 (compared to Russia's 1.1 million). Georgia is also a key in the Caucasus region - the roots of Europe... like the Chechens, the ancient Colchis & Iberian kingdoms influenced all the primary roots of European civilization. Anyway, Stalin's plan when he was a ???commissioner of the minorities??? way back in the 1920s was to eliminate ALL the tribes of Europe & replace them with Homo Sovieticus. Ya know what I mean? It's astounding that since the second Russian occupation of Chechnya (which Chairman Poo Tin ordered in 2000) the Russians still have been unable to eliminate (& conquer) those tough mountain peoples. Ingushetia (a captive nation inside Russia) has asked for help to "liberate" it from Russia - is that a hint to the EU or NATO? Or maybe Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania should become Nuclear Powers and ???liberate??? the oppressed minorities inside the federation? Did Russia open the doors (unknowingly?) to "liberating" its own captive nations by recognizing the so-called ???independence??? of Abhkazia & South Ossetia and creating "buffer zones" inside sovereign Georgia? Or is that a trap? No one has been allowed into the newly "independent" zones of occupation under complete Chairman Poo Tin control??? what is going on there? Are the army hordes being massed there for a total onslaught on Europe??? Paris??? Berlin??? Rome??? will the veterans of the Chechen genocide be allowed to rape, plunder & ravage the Continent? I mean, where else can they go? Iran? China? Let's see what kind of "buffer zones" the Chinese will carve out of Siberia... come on European Union or NATO even - get your act together and "liberate" Yakutia or Ingushetia or Chechnya or one of the other captive nations. Question the legitimacy of this rule by those 3 Stooges. Genocide is at your doorstep Europe - so what are ya gonna do about it?

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 09/08/2008 1:10:43 PM

      "I will not start the third world war to please you"
      (english general "Rambo" Jackson to his american direct superior, who was ordering him to attack russian paratroopers in Pristina, Kosovo)

  • Posted By: streetwise @ 08/28/2008 4:28:06 PM

    Comment: "Perhaps, Russia, if it were a man, is incapable of loving and being loved. It doesn't know how to: court; persuade; be romantic; win hearts; show affection".
    If USA are so persuasive, how comes 70 (not 16) % of Ukrainians are against NATO ?
    And somebody has said this is not important .
    Democracy...

  • Posted By: vicphil @ 08/28/2008 4:46:20 AM

    Russia greatest enemy is itself. For many years, it has not changed its character. Why do its former sweethearts (republics) "divorced" him and "married" another man in the WEST. Perhaps, Russia, if it were a man, is incapable of loving and being loved. It doesn't know how to: court; persuade; be romantic; win hearts; show affection. IT HAS A HEART OF STONE. Respect is supposed to be earned but Russia demands. What kind of upbringing did Russia have?

    • Posted By: prishsh @ 08/28/2008 2:53:04 PM

      "Perhaps, Russia, if it were a man, is incapable of loving and being loved. It doesn't know how to: court; persuade; be romantic; win hearts; show affection". aga, for sure. but Russia, like most of men, knows how to f*** everybody's ass.

  • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 08/27/2008 1:19:57 AM

    The US is playing with fire that could burn everybody. The US must stop this nonsense because it has lost so many wars and is not in a position to fight anymore. The US was defeated in Vietnam. The US and its allies cannot even defeat the rag-tag Talibans and the few ill-equiped, ill-trained and ill-organised al-Qaeda in Afghanistan while the scenario in Iraq is uncertain. The US military also faced the same defeat in Georgia. The US is also not able to face Iran. The only conclusion I can make is that the US administration consists of a bunch of lunatics.

    • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 08/28/2008 7:53:52 AM

      You are real smug aren't you? When the US decides to hit the tribal areas with a rain of ruin from the air, ur T-ban/AQ cockroaches will scatter. If Iran continues with its nuclear program, led by thier INSANE president, they will get bombed to dust. Now that there are a few combat brigades available for A-stan, watch how ur muj get knocked off by the dozens. Rhyno 1 BCT, 101st AB

  • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 08/28/2008 7:46:03 AM

    The Ukraine better think twice about NATO membership. NATO is a paper tiger, its European members lacking the will to fight. Just look at who is fighting in A-stan and who WILL NOT. Stay outta NATO Ukraine, save urself a lotta trouble. You think the Germans will ACTUALLY fight? Wat a joke...

  • Posted By: diderotvoltaire @ 08/25/2008 4:23:41 PM

    What a shame that Valery Gergiev, directs this symphony at this place , at this time! Stalingrad and resistance of Leningrad were to fight nazis. But he plays at the same day, at the same moments than an ethnic cleansing was operating - that Georgians houses were burned and their owners send out of South Osetia where they belong. It is exactly what Russia today - a corrupted almost nazi state. Russia is becoming the ennemy of the West - we have the urgent need to contain it.

    • Posted By: vladro @ 08/27/2008 10:46:47 AM

      Poor superdemocratic Georgians! Just passed by and dropped a little bit of heavy superdemocratic bombs, artillery shells and missiles on sleeping Tshinval and occasionally killed about 2000 civillians, including pregnant women and children. Triffles! And savage totalitarian Russians gave them a kick and that made a whole "civilised" world to drop tears about Georgians heavy destiny. Right?
      Wak

    • Posted By: System7 @ 08/25/2008 11:35:03 PM

      Hey, watch the American TV less. I don't recommend the Russian TV too. Let's build peace.

  • Posted By: sdsunandfun @ 08/27/2008 2:26:21 AM

    We bombed Serbia and Russia bombed Georgia. What is the difference?

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 08/27/2008 8:43:20 AM

      Comment: We bombed Serbia and Russia bombed Georgia. What is the difference?
      -
      NATO bombed Belgrade for days, Russia NEVER bombed Tbilisi...

  • Posted By: dzyuba @ 08/25/2008 4:28:43 PM

    Ukraine is Russia and Russia is Ukraine. Has always been and will always remain. One history, one culture, one people. ONE!

    • Posted By: diderotvoltaire @ 08/25/2008 4:49:56 PM

      Ukrain remembers the genocide in the 30's.

      Ukrain has a majority of Catholic and has nothing to do with this post-stalinist Russia which has not even succeeded to stay democratic

      • Posted By: St. Petersburger @ 08/27/2008 6:00:00 AM

        For your information - Ukraine is an Orthodox country. It will never be Catholic.

      • Posted By: St. Petersburger @ 08/27/2008 5:56:01 AM

        What do you know about democarcy in Russia? Clearly nothing. Most of the Russian population is firmly behind Medvedev and Putin on this one. That is tru democracy. And stop harping on the claims of Ukrainian "genocide" in the 1930s. Russians suffered from hunger just as much as any Ukrainians. And it would behoove you to remember that the "genocide" was ordered by a Georgian!!

      • Posted By: System7 @ 08/25/2008 11:31:04 PM

        You write "this post-stalinist Russia". Recall that Stalin was Georgian by nationality. We can say "the genocide in the 30's" was made by the Georgian, an not only in the Ukraine but in the whole Russia too.

  • Posted By: MoCuishle119 @ 08/27/2008 5:26:32 AM

    I agree with system7. But now the problem is that with a weakened economy and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, US can't spend as much money to sponsor its allies as it used to. And this time, Georgia's leaders just did not realised this and still counted all on US and Europe.

  • Posted By: MoCuishle119 @ 08/27/2008 5:24:11 AM

    UK and US should put down the Cold-War theory first and then to talk about "respects". Otherwise it's no surprise to see the BBC title its report as "A Cold-War Warrior" to name Russia's president.

  • Posted By: Questions2 @ 08/26/2008 9:53:13 AM

    Georgia was the lightning rod for Eastern Europe. Russia focused its economic, propagandistic and military bullying on Georgia, lightening the pressure on countries of Eastern Europe. In the 1990s Russian military planes were flying over the Baltic states and Russia was imposing trade sanctions on them. After the Rose Revolution in Georgia this activity shifted there. Now that the lightning rod is broken Eastern European countries should expect a lot more economic and military trouble from Russia.
    An old anecdote from the post-communist countries: An American, a German and a Russian are boasting in a bar. The American says: ???On my farm I drive a Ford, when I go to work I drive a Lincoln and when I go abroad I drive a Cadillac.??? The German answers: ???When I am at home, I drive a Volkswagen, at work I drive a Mercedes and in other countries I drive a BMW.??? The Russian says: ???I drive a Zhaporozhets at home and a tractor at work.??? ???And when you go to another country???? the others ask. ???When I go to another country I drive a tank,??? the Russian answers.

    • Posted By: System7 @ 08/26/2008 11:42:37 PM

      I think some contries of the Eastern Europe like Georgia, Poland, and the Ukraine imitate hysterics about Russia because it is useful for them to get more money and other "help" from "sponsors" like the USA and Europe. This hysterics is a mask only but the mask has put down roots into their souls. We must neither imitate hysterics nor be in hysterics. Let's be peaceful.

  • Posted By: Questions2 @ 08/26/2008 9:53:32 AM

    Proposition: Russia???s objective is to rule the world.
    Proof: Russia seeks to restore itself to Soviet Union size by the admission of Russian leadership (calling the fall of the Soviet Union the greatest catastrophe in the 20th century, promising to protect its interests in any country by any means, including military). Russia, like other countries and people, prefers more to less. If given the choice between the Soviet Union territory and that plus one other territory Russia will choose the second option. In a choice between Soviet Union plus one and Soviet Union plus two countries again the second choice is made. Iterating this argument we get that Russia would most prefer to rule the entire world.

    • Posted By: System7 @ 08/26/2008 11:16:40 PM

      You have a good fantasy. Russia has clearly recognized the _independence_ of Abkhazia and S.Ossetia, not the inclusion into the territory of Russia despite at least one of them asked for the inclusion. If you compare Russia in 1908 and in 2008, then you will see that Russia has lost much territory. Hence we can say Russia's objective is to loose its territory. Anyway, Russia has the biggest territory in the world. Why must it try to become bigger? Russia does not want to rule the world, it wants to take part in ruling the world. Let's build peace.

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 08/26/2008 8:23:42 PM

    Maybe if Europe stop following the cold war tactics of United States and we can start treating Russia like a friend and a partner, then Russia would not be pushed up to a corner and forced to act defensive. Putin warned the world in February 2007 in Munic (read speach) about the consequences of continuing containment and encirceling of Russia. NO US MISSILE SHIELD IN EUROPE, GET US TROOPS OUT OF EUROPE!!!

  • Posted By: Tan Boon Tee @ 08/26/2008 1:02:04 AM

    Perhaps Russia has sent a clear message to the world (notably to the West) that it is redeeming itself after the collapse of the Soviet Union followed by its uninvited subtle humiliation. Russia craves for respect for the state and its people.

    The Russia???s intrusion of Georgia came at the time when the US signed its missile defence treaty with Poland. This constitutes a rather unusual warning to the US not to meddle with East Europe. Putin has been adamant in wanting to push and establish Russian influence over its neighbors. NATO continues to weigh the grave situation. Vice President Cheney is flying to Georgia for serious discussion. The US is considering economic sanction against Russia. All these bode poorly for a fragile peace in the world, let alone in the East Europe.

    Meantime China, after a successful Olympiad unsurpassed, is monitoring the predicament carefully. Beijing will be most comfortable to stay neutral to watch the eventual geopolitical development gradually unfolded in Europe.

    Will this be the prelude of the resurrection of the notorious Cold War? No more war please, has the world not seen enough of the ugly conflicts?
    (Tan Boon Tee)

    • Posted By: System7 @ 08/26/2008 7:56:26 AM

      I'm for peace too. There is a Russian proverb: "Bad peace is better than a good quarrel."

  • Posted By: tshirt5 @ 08/25/2008 9:37:20 PM

    Ukraine started in Russia, they have always been and will always be the same. Just because Ukraine was occupied by the Polish-Lithuanian state for a while does not change its soul.

  • Posted By: tshirt5 @ 08/25/2008 9:36:13 PM

    Russia started in Ukraine, Russia and Ukraine are one. Just because Ukraine was occupied by the Polish-Lithuanina state for a bit does not change it's soul.

  • Posted By: dzyuba @ 08/25/2008 4:27:16 PM

    Ukraine is Russia and Russia is Ukraine. Has always been and will always be! One history, one culture, one people! ONE!

  • Posted By: Emilda @ 08/25/2008 3:40:27 PM

    There is an interesting suggestion from Steve Levine. The Russians have a big weakness. The West should keep in mind Russia's Achilles Heel while dealing with Putin and Medvedev. Levine knows this area, having covered wars in Chechnya, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Tajikistan as well as the Soviet-Afghan war: http://oilandglory.com/2008/08/russias-achilles-heel.html

  • Posted By: Emilda @ 08/25/2008 3:38:59 PM

    There is an interesting suggestion from Steve Levine. The Russians have a big weakness. The West should keep in mind Russia's Achilles Heel while dealing with Putin and Medvedev. Levine knows this area, having covered wars in Chechnya, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Tajikistan as well as the Soviet-Afghan war: http://oilandglory.com/2008/08/russias-achilles-heel.html

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