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  • Posted By: beanhead54 @ 09/05/2008 10:39:52 AM

    Were Obama to be a clear thinking Black man with centerist ideas I may be inclined to agree, but, his thoughts and ideas lead me to recognize his obvious Socialistic tendency. Socialism has not worked wherever it has been tried, and for the political Left to attempt to put a new face on such an old mistake by hiding it behind a face that is Black is troublesome.

    If Obama wants to open the discussion let him say what he means instead of cloaking the long, slow slide into govenment dependence by simply calling it a "change" to a better idea.

  • Posted By: Tim Munson @ 09/03/2008 8:39:25 PM

    The editor who framed Weisberg's subtle, clear-sighted piece with the title "What Will the Neighbors Think?" should be reprimanded and made to read every misspelled word and grammatically challenged sentence posted here. The title is derisive and misleading, framing the article as an argument for electing a black man as a means of national catharsis and improving America's brand image abroad. Obviously, Weisberg is suggesting nothing of the sort. Weisberg's analysis articulates a hard, deeply-entrenched reality we Americans must confront in order to overcome.

  • Posted By: Tim Munson @ 09/03/2008 8:39:10 PM

    The editor who framed Weisberg's subtle, clear-sighted piece with the title "What Will the Neighbors Think?" should be reprimanded and made to read every misspelled word and grammatically challenged sentence posted here. The title is derisive and misleading, framing the article as an argument for electing a black man as a means of national catharsis and improving America's brand image abroad. Obviously, Weisberg is suggesting nothing of the sort. Weisberg's analysis articulates a hard, deeply-entrenched reality we Americans must confront in order to overcome.

  • Posted By: ggsully @ 09/03/2008 3:48:58 PM

    I will not feel guilty for something that happened over 100 years ago and was common practice in the world at the time. In fact in Africa even today they still practice slavery, so take the guilt elsewhere. No one living TODAY was ever a slave in this country, so get over it. I am proud of where this country has gone and what has been done to help equalize the feild. Does racism exist, sure it does. Will racism ever disappear, no. People have the right to feel how ever they want no matter how disgusted you or I may feel about it. Every person has probably expereinced some form of descrimination some time in thier lives, maybe some more then others, but using it as a crutch is your problem and I am not going to feel guilty about it. There are far more opportunites for some then others too and you do not see me crying about it. I have worked hard for where I am and I only have my self to thank for that. I think you do a great diservice to Obama with your racist article as can be seen by the comments. I always knew that Newsweek was fully in bed with the Democratice party, you only need to read a few political articles to tell, but this is way over the line. Newsweek should really think about allowing this type of race baiting in its supposed news magazine.

  • Posted By: ravioli123 @ 08/29/2008 10:59:10 AM

    The very fact that there is a backlash of articles against mr wiesberg seems to confirm the fact that wiseberg is dead-on RIGHT.
    Old saying goes, people don't like the truth about them. That explains the backlash here.
    But fact remains, every two year old knows this is a year that democrats have it made - -after 8 years of Bush bugling. Then there is an eloquent candidate and a very decent man by every measure and a very efficient man jusdging bby his campaign fund raising etc.,.
    But he is dead even in the polls with bush twin Mc Cain?
    And you say it's not racism. It is racism. Read this excerpt from an associated press (AP)article of 8 hours ago:
    *****And so Obama accepted the nomination Thursday night standing on the shoulders of King and thousands of others who suffered and bled to give blacks the right to vote ??? yet Obama did not speak King's name.
    In only briefly paying homage to "a young preacher from Georgia," Obama illustrated how much America has changed in those 45 years, and how much it has stayed the same. Yes, Obama could actually become the first black president of the United States ??? but he must somehow become raceless to do it.*****
    It shows there are others who think like Mr wiesberg and who think Mr Wiesberg is right.
    This witch hunt tone in these comments is telling. When Galileo said the world is round, he was reviled by the church because they thought he was a heretic going against the orthodoxy of the day. The more shrill these comments get -- by whites of course --- its more obvious racism is the reason Obama is not a shoo-in at this election as he should be.
    As for the argument that blacks vote for blacks and that is racism too ---- of course they'd vote for a black when they belong to the still oppressed minority, marginalised and discriminated against.. They'd be insane not to. That???s not racism -- but being the majority and advantaged because of it, and still voting on the basis of skin colour is altogether something else -- it is racism through and through.
    KGape

    • Posted By: ggsully @ 09/03/2008 3:31:52 PM

      Your using a circular argument that just makes you look stupid, so stop. Like Jacob you state an opinion and try and play it off as fact. Additionally, you can try and redefine words with some philosophical belief that just because blacks are a minority they must be oppressed and thus can not be racist. Racism is Dissemination based on the belief that some races are by nature superior as indicated in Websters Dictionary dictionary. So if a black man votes for Obama just because he is black then he is a racist plain and simple.

  • Posted By: ClearVisionCeo @ 09/03/2008 10:18:06 AM

    It's amazing how in 2008 people are still color blind. for the last 8 years people have been losing their jobs, houses, and their love ones to a war that should not have been happening. George W. Bush who is a white man and is office has single handed destroyed this country. John McCain is a bush allie and i hope you don't think for one moment once McCain is elected this country will continue to suffer as it has for the last 8 years. Forget about color for a minute, look at the ground work Obama is laying out to fix these issues, half the people that aren't voting for Obama because he is black are so called christians. We need to get it together before we end up being a third world country ourselves. One more question? what kind of experience does McCain running mate has compared to Barrack. NONE, but he goes and get a woman with 5 kids to pull the sympathy card and even though it's unfortunate that the youngest one has down syndrome
    who's going to take care of those kids while she is in office her husband. Please you guys need to stop, it really won't hit home until the middle class and lower class are out their doing what they have to do to make ends meet. Don't be surprise if it's your house that's broken into....

  • Posted By: hjlane2 @ 09/03/2008 8:44:10 AM

    Now who is using the race card to scare us to vote for Obama? The left wing media. John McCain's VP pick has them all scare.

  • Posted By: ScottFO @ 09/02/2008 9:33:06 PM

    So Jacob Weisberg claims a Obama loss "..would be taken for what it would be: sign and symbol of a nation's historical decline." Quite the contrary!

    An Obama loss (and McCain victory) would indicate that America rejected an opportunistic inexperienced senator long on style and short on substance. It would indicate that America chose a proven leader that has always put country first.

    John McCain has a proven track record of accomplishment. He worked with Senator Russ Feingold, a Democrat, to craft campaign finance reform. In fact, McCain's time as a POW has probably perfectly prepared him to work with a recalcitrant Democratic congress.

  • Posted By: faeyth @ 09/02/2008 4:41:44 PM

    This is kind of nonsense is why Obama is losing.People need to know that when it comes to issues(Unions,Minimum wage increases,decreases in taxes and insurance rates and utility bills,oil food costs and an end to Corporate Subsides) for the Middle class(majority of voters) he'll take care of business,unfortunately he only talks about ending war and racial problems important but every body needs to pay for their kids.

  • Posted By: lloydo21 @ 08/29/2008 4:47:50 PM

    "We would finally be able to see our legacy of slavery, segregation and racism in the rearview mirror. Our kids would grow up thinking of prejudice as a nonfactor in their lives"

    So, now we choose our leaders, not on what they would do, but what our children would think of the world? Or about how the world would view us? Or how we could satisfy this "White Guilt" that is ingrained in this article?

    No thanks, I want the best leader for the country, not our psyche, not the world, not your guilt. Female or male. White or Black.

  • Posted By: davejohn @ 08/29/2008 2:24:12 PM

    What a racist article in itself! I have heard people talking about it but this is the first time I had a chance to read it. Clearly, the man who wrote this dishonors Martin Luther King's Dream Speech when King said he dreamed of a day when a man would be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin! To make the claim that white older voters aren't voting for Obama because of his race is just totally racist in itself! I am surprised that Newsweek even allowed this article to be associated with their name.

    Not to consider Obama's lack of experience, his church and pastor, his pro-abortion stand, his wiliness and stated goal to reverse DOMA as their possible reasoning for favoring McCain over Obama is as racist and bigoted as it gets! Shame on the author! He needs to take a long hard look at his own heart!

  • Posted By: davejohn @ 08/29/2008 2:23:39 PM

    What a racist article in itself! I have heard people talking about it but this is the first time I had a chance to read it. Clearly, the man who wrote this dishonors Martin Luther King's Dream Speech when King said he dreamed of a day when a man would be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin! To make the claim that white older voters aren't voting for Obama because of his race is just totally racist in itself! I am surprised that Newsweek even allowed this article to be associated with their name.

    Not to consider Obama's lack of experience, his church and pastor, his pro-abortion stand, his wiliness and stated goal to reverse DOMA as their possible reasoning for favoring McCain over Obama is as racist and bigoted as it gets! Shame on the author! He needs to take a long hard look at his own heart!

  • Posted By: kuatokuato @ 08/29/2008 1:56:14 PM

    The point of the article is that SOME PEOPLE OPENLY ADMIT THAT THEY WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. If that is not racist, I don't know what is. It is also a safe assumption that an even higher percentage would not vote for him, but will not tell that to a pollster. It's not saying that all whites are racist. It's saying that if Obama loses the election, that it will be in part due to people that would never vote for anyone black. And nibbles2008...there are African Americans...Americans with African ancestry.

  • Posted By: lawtlaw @ 08/23/2008 5:46:39 PM

    I wanted to throw up. Sorry, but I could not even finish the article. How dare you presume, based on your own -patent racial biases,. that anyone who is white and not voting for O
    Bama is doing so based on racism. You have made up my mind and I am Polynesian-English-Italian baby boomer attorney and female. This specious argument sets back, not helps the cause removing bigotry in our society. O'Bama is not ready for the job, pure and simple. So don't try to guilt trip those of us who aren't swooning over the very handsome, articulate, but yes, as Hillary said....Not ready to lead in such troubled times.

    • Posted By: jhubers @ 08/23/2008 6:36:01 PM

      For a lawyer your reasoning is amazingly flawed. Worse -you don't read very well. The point of the article was not that only racists will vote against Obama. Its that racists will be among those who don't vote for Obama, which, of course, is a handicap McCain doesn't have as he will benefit from the racist vote.

      I can't imagine that you win many cases.

      • Posted By: pnkearns @ 08/24/2008 7:28:58 PM

        And of course Obama will not benefit for the 90+ percent of Blacks voting for him, including racists who are Black? And McCain will not have that handicap? Yeah... right...

        • Posted By: nibbles2008 @ 08/29/2008 1:32:05 PM

          i cant think of any country in the world where a minority has been in contention for the highest office in the land, apart from Peru i think. BTW i am not american, but if americans are racist for not votoing in Obama then every other country must be more so. Could you ever imagine China electing a non chinese or any country in Africa voting in a White person.From my flawed stats, Black people (there no such thing as African American, your American or African) make's up approx 12% of the US population, so whatever vote he gets will be hardly anything to do with Black votes, but White, Hispanic etc votes. So if he loses it proves nothing , just he couldnt pewrsuade enough people, and the author of this article and anyone who supports are indeed the racist's, trust me anyone can be racist, Blacks, White's,Asian and i think these kinda of shots on White people only are cheap, digusting and facist.

      • Posted By: Morgan2008 @ 08/26/2008 6:03:59 AM

        jhubers: I think it is you that is missing the point of the article. Perhaps you should read it a few times and maybe you will understand it.

    • Posted By: Judlseih @ 08/23/2008 11:39:15 PM

      Not anyone. Just a certain percentages. Don't be stupid. You can read can't you?

  • Posted By: dle939 @ 08/25/2008 1:02:43 PM

    The shame that I will feel for my country, if we elect McCain, is beyond measuring. It will mean that we are more racist than intelligent and care more for these attitudes than for the well being of our country. I hope those responsible , if McCain is elected enjoy the decline in their circumstances and the decline of the status of the US in the world.

    • Posted By: nibbles2008 @ 08/29/2008 1:21:23 PM

      i cant think of any country in the world where a minority has been in contention for the highest office in the land, apart from Peru i think. BTW i am not american, but if americans are racist for not votoing in Obama then every other country must be more so. Could you ever imagine China electing a non chinese or any country in Africa voting in a White person.From my flawed stats, Black people (there no such thing as African American, your American or African) make's up approx 12% of the US population, so whatever vote he gets will be hardly anything to do with Black votes, but White, Hispanic etc votes. So if he loses it proves nothing , just he couldnt pewrsuade enough people, and the author of this article and anyone who supports are indeed the racist's, trust me anyone can be racist, Blacks, White's,Asian and i think these kinda of shots on White people only are cheap, digusting and facist.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/25/2008 1:33:12 PM

      You never know. The Democrat controlled congress may choose to work with our president this time, instead of working against him to try a solidify the presidency for the Democrats the next election.

  • Posted By: BamaBeachBum @ 08/29/2008 12:57:40 PM

    Once again, leave it to Newsweek to publish an article that absolutely removes any doubt that media bias exists.

    Weisberg concludes that if Obama does not win this election it will be solely due to the fact that his skin is brown??? What?? I did not realize that our election process was based on the race ( or gender for that matter ) of the candidates. I always thought that issues were the driving force behind people???s decision, not skin color.

    Is it so difficult for you, Mr. Liberal, to believe that almost fifty percent of the population does not want the government running our health care system? Is it impossible for you to fathom that there are people out here that actually understand the fact that increasing taxes on businesses and entrepreneurship stifle growth? Can you comprehend that a vast majority of the people in America actually want to drill domestically? Do you understand that instead of a recession, our economy actually grew by 3.3% in the spring?
    No, Mr. Weisberg, if Obama looses this election it will have nothing to do with his skin color. He will (hopefully) loose because of his misguided political views.

    You also threw around statistics and percentages of ???whites??? that voted based on skin color. Well, Mr. Weisberg, please explain to me why 89% of all African American???s voted for Obama instead of Hillary in the Democratic primaries. Could it be because of his???. Skin color? You can bet your Birkenstocks it is. ???Statistically??? there should have been a normal distribution of the voters between Obama and Hillary unless there was an outside factor influencing the African American voters. ( Yep, you guessed it??? Skin Color)

    What you, Mr. Weisberg, and the liberal left fail to understand is that many of us actually want a strong military, many of use actually want our borders closed to illegal aliens, many of us know that life begins at conception, and many of us want to uphold the sanctity of marriage as a holy union, blessed by God, between a man and a woman.

    McCain / Palin 2008 !!

    Signed,
    A gun toting, Christian clinging to his Bible.
    JP Banks

  • Posted By: catcards1710 @ 08/29/2008 12:39:28 PM

    What a piece of trash. What an insult to the non-blacks when most of us are not racists. What an insult to the blacks for insinuating they are either ignorant to believe this or that they need a crutch for an excuse.

  • Posted By: Rainy @ 08/23/2008 10:26:08 PM

    So very dead-on on so many levels. Obama so clearly outclasses McCain and the Republican machine. Were his charisma, intellect and general talent possessed by someone of entirely European descent in his exact position, media coverage and poll results would be dramatically different. Imagine Obama leaving his first wife for an heiress, and how that would be framed by the media and the Republican machine.

    It goes without saying that there are many issues of racism in this country (even though some try not to call it what it is). And how could there not be? The U.S. economy was founded on unpaid labor (slavery ) and all that it entailed; its laws supported segregation and racism (Jim Crow); and these things were not abolished by the prompting of the perpatrators or even the government. Rather, they were abolished by the blood, sacrifice, and efforts of the impacted group and their supporters, while the nation went down kicking and screaming.

    Today, the remnants of the evils of our past weigh us down, and some of us choose not to recognize the very real impact our past has on our present. And that's unfortunate, because some are not far removed from hateful attitudes passed down through generations; even though the attitudes have today, in some cases, formed a deceptively benign exterior.

    So, one could argue that 'American' values are not something to aspire to, but to be remade. An Obama presidency could help do that.

    • Posted By: yevluh @ 08/29/2008 11:58:04 AM

      i don't think anyone is denying that racism exists in this country. But labeling people as racist if they don't vote for Obama is ridiculous. Are all of the democrats who did not vote for Alan Keyes also racist??? McCain votes according to his principles - regardless of how his party votes. You either agree with him or you don't, but at least you know where he stands. Obama bumbles his way through tough questions, and you still don't know where he stands. ("it's above my paygrade" is his answer to when he believes life begins?? give me a break.) And by the way - I'd like to see you serve 6 years in a Vietnam prison camp and come back to your spouse not having changed at all. Marriage is hard enough without something like that happening. He took full responsibility for the failure of his first marriage, and he is on good terms with his ex-wife. He has been married to Cindy for 28 years now.

  • Posted By: sinnal @ 08/29/2008 11:55:40 AM

    I have no idea how you can suggest Jews don't vote for black candidates because they perceive them to not be supportive enough of Israel. There are a number of fallacies with this argument, but quite simply perhaps the truth is that they aren't supportive enough? Could it very well be that most Americans including many Jews care more about what happens in the US than what happens to Israel? Or are all Jews Zionists? You may want to put the race card away before it falls into the wrong hands.

  • Posted By: RobinSp @ 08/29/2008 11:48:09 AM

    Now that John McCain has chosen Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate, will Mr. Weisberg write an article claiming that if the GOP loses, there can be no reason other than sexism? That would be the logical end result of his thinking.

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