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The Democrats and the Abortion Wars

Are Obama and Pelosi dodging the life-and-death question?

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  • Posted By: I'm all in @ 07/01/2009 4:36:34 PM

    Of course they're dodging the Abortion issue. I'm not sure why though, the democrats do more to lessen abortion in a year than the GOP has done since it's inception. Or is that conception. the Dems. push for Sex Education and the GOP says no way. The dems. push for contraception and the GOP says no way. The Dems. push for condoms and the GOP says no way.
    So while 65% of our kids have sex before the 10th grade the Republicans say just don't do it.

    JUST DON'T DO IT! nows there's some policy to lessen inwanted pregnancy. The GOP is immoral pretending to be moral.

  • Posted By: Nosmanic @ 12/24/2008 11:15:39 PM

    Me and my families position on abortion as liberal catholics has alway been when the religion groups on the right start fighting to help these women. Instead of labeling sinners.

    • Posted By: WTL=JC @ 03/02/2009 12:16:43 AM

      what are you doing to help? what contribution have you made lately? why dont you stop waiting on other religions to do it and start taking some action yourself . that is a sorry excuse

    • Posted By: darincoveyjc@cox.net @ 12/29/2008 7:49:46 PM

      There are thousands of church groups and organizations willing to help. what a lame excuse.

  • Posted By: YuNanaMouse @ 02/27/2009 9:19:21 PM

    If your house was on fire, and I saw it burning, and you in it unaware. Should I pass by and think ???maybe s/he likes it that way. It???s not my place to judge????...
    ...Of course not! It is love, not hate that motivates a person to warn another of impending danger.

    Love the sinner, but hate the sin.
    THIS is the Christian perspective!

    Please Help Fight FOCA! Sign the petition at http://www.fightfoca.com opposing the Freedom of Choice Act!

  • Posted By: deegee @ 11/04/2008 6:42:29 PM

    The liberal media, including Newsweek and their patron Obama , have adopted a throw away society mentality including the throw away baby. God help us.

  • Posted By: Jim Johnson @ 10/16/2008 1:02:41 PM

    Obama's view of the future of America - Socialism which is the next step to Communism!!


    Under socialism a ruling class of intellectuals, bureaucrats and social planners decide what people want or what is good for society and then use the coercive power of the State to regulate, tax, and redistribute the wealth of those who work for a living. In other words, socialism is a form of legalized theft.

    The morality of socialism can be summed-up in two words: envy and self-sacrifice. Envy is the desire to not only possess another's wealth but also the desire to see another's wealth lowered to the level of one's own. Socialism's teaching on self-sacrifice was nicely summarized by two of its greatest defenders, Hermann Goering and Bennito Mussolini. The highest principle of Nazism (National Socialism), said Goering, is: "Common good comes before private good." Fascism, said
    Mussolini, is "a life in which the individual, through the sacrifice of his own private interests??realizes that completely spiritual existence in which his value as a man lies."

    Socialism is the social system which institutionalizes envy and self-sacrifice: It is the social system which uses compulsion and the organized violence of the State to expropriate wealth from the producer class for its redistribution to the parasitical class.

    Despite the intellectuals' psychotic hatred of capitalism, it is the only moral and just social system.

    Capitalism is the only moral system because it requires human beings to deal with one another as traders--that is, as free moral agents trading and selling goods and services on the basis of mutual consent.

    Capitalism is the only just system because the sole criterion that determines the value of thing exchanged is the free, voluntary, universal judgement of the consumer. Coercion and fraud are anathema to the free-market system.

    It is both moral and just because the degree to which man rises or falls in society is determined by the degree to which he uses his mind. Capitalism is the only social system that rewards merit, ability and achievement, regardless of one's birth or station in life.

    Yes, there are winners and losers in capitalism. The winners are those who are honest, industrious, thoughtful, prudent, frugal, responsible, disciplined, and efficient. The losers are those who are shiftless, lazy, imprudent, extravagant, negligent, impractical, and inefficient. [What about the role of luck­being in the right place at the right time or the wrong place at the wrong time? R. R. Pope}

    Capitalism is the only social system that rewards virtue and punishes vice. This applies to both the business executive and the carpenter, the lawyer and the factory worker.

  • Posted By: Newyorker George @ 10/14/2008 9:17:32 PM

    Obam"As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides,' Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the Anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.'

    I am also speechless. Throw Obama off the train, before the USA gets derailed.

  • Posted By: melandmike @ 10/13/2008 11:20:03 AM

    Angry convervative posters: Do me, yourself and the GOP Party a favor: Put just half the effort that you put into bashing Obama and the Democrats into praising the real values of the Republican Party and it's ticket if you want to get McCain elected. All of this peurile and acrimonious name calling and outright antagonization is not helping our cause, makes the conservative base look childish, unintelligent, frightened and self serving. It turns off Independent voters and so basically serves the Dem's interests. I'm sure you are venting, but it's NOT helping us.

  • Posted By: Jim Johnson @ 10/12/2008 10:23:58 PM

    Obama explains his objection to our National Anthem and Flag!!

    Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

    According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171, During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart.

    "As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides,' Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the Anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.'

    WHAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!! Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president. I, for once, am speechless.

    He better take sides..........if he is not on the side of AMERICA he MUST NOT EVEN BE CONSIDERED for the office he is seeking. We do not need a man in office that will not salute the flag. The world knows how to sing, what they need to know is that the USA will defend what that flag stands for

  • Posted By: Jim Johnson @ 10/12/2008 10:23:27 PM

    Who can answer all these questions honestly and completely?

    1. Which member of the Communist party was a mentor of Obama???s while he lived in Hawaii?

    2. Which domestic terrorist was a close friend and associate of Obama???s, held a fund raiser for Obama, jumpstarted Obama???s career, and contributed to Obama???s campaign fund?

    3. Which domestic terrorist appointed Obama to chair his charity, who Obama attended meetings with and shared in the presentations, and who bombed government buildings and said he was proud of it??

    4. Which convicted real estate embezzler was close friends with Obama, helped Obama buy his mansion at a $300,000 discount, and who paid full price for a lot next to Obama???s mansion and sold Obama a strip at a great price to enlarge his yard?

    5. Which convicted real estate embezzler received an ear mark of 14 million taxpayer dollars from Obama, held a political fundraiser for Obama, and donated to Obama???s political campaign fund??

    6. Which convicted real estate embezzler was close friends with a real estate tycoon wanted by England, who had ties with Arafat and Saddam Hussein and who the Obama???s share a table with at a dinner??

    7. For which convicted real estate embezzler did Obama work on one of his real estate projects?

    8. Which university professor was a close friend of Obama???s that supported the PLO terrorists, was anti-Israel, and was the main supporter of Ahmadinejad???s visit to the U. S. and his university??

    9. At which university professor???s retirement did Obama give a speech and praise the professor even though Obama knew he was a terrorist supporter?

    10. Which church did Obama attend for 20 years whose minister preached hate for America and white people, and whose minister served as Obama???s personal and political advisor?

    11. Which radical Catholic priest was a close friend and advisor to Obama?

    12. Who is the leader of the Nation of Islam who praised Obama and whose million man march Obama participated in?

    13. Who hired members of the Nation of Islam to work in his political offices?

  • Posted By: Jim Johnson @ 10/12/2008 10:22:58 PM

    I have always believed that birds of a feather will always flock together and if you CANNOT trust one of them, you can't trust any of them.

    We all select our friends and associates by their character. If we do not agree with their character and how they lead their lives, then we will NOT accept them as our friends. I, personally, would never associate with anyone that was involved in any kind of criminal activities or racial activities, or involved in any kind of demonstrations against the country which I love with all my heart. I have too much self respect and pride to associate with these types of lowlife trash.

    But, for some reason, we CANNOT and will NOT hold our President to these same standards and good judgement. It seems that a president who has 'no sex' with a young intern in our Oval Ofiice is beyond scrutiny and is still considered to be a GREAT president. It doesn't matter that his actions destroyed the view of the office of the presidency in the eyes of our friends around the world and destroyed the morals of all of our young people. The character of a president is just not important to the American people any longer.

    Promises of 'hope and change' and empty rhetoric has replaced the need of a presidential candidate to have good judgemnet and good character. As long as they are shrewd enough to 'look presidential' and said what the POOR STUPID Americans want to hear, that is all that is important. The American people no longer need evidence, REAL evidence, that a candidate is capable of fulfilling his promises and is capable of protecting and serving the people. Talk is cheap, but the right talk has proven to be all that is required by the American people. Judgement, character, and experience is no longer required.

    I have always believed that birds of a feather will always flock together and if you CANNOT trust one of them, you can't trust any of them. The American voter is willing to accept Obama at face value, without thoroughly researching his background. I would like to know how many Americans are willing to send our young men and women into combat overseas to fight terrorists, and, at the same time, are willing to accept a president who has been friends with domestic terrorists for years, and a president who is supported by Hamas and many, many other radical groups and leaders from around the world.

    Just keep in mind that Obama would never be accepted in the FBI or CIA, but the American voters would elect him as their president and Commander-in-chief of their brave military men and women!!!! May God bless and have mercy on the souls of all the misguided voters!!!!

  • Posted By: Jim Johnson @ 10/12/2008 10:22:31 PM

    Obama, the one you can trust! The American people are like leeches on the government. They can no longer think for themselves. They can no longer take care of themselves. They need to be bottle fed and have their diapers changed. Obama is their savior, their Messiah. They can no longer fight for their freedoms. They must succumb to the beautiful words of promise and hope from Obama. He will make their lives great and trouble free. He will make us one world with no bounderies. Everyone will be equal. There will never be rich people or poor people again. We will all be middle class. That is where the world is headed and we will be the first to get there. All medical help and medicine will be socialized. The government will lead the people down the rosey path to hell. The people will serve the mighty leader, Obama. He controls all human activities and tells us were and when to go. He will tell us what to drive and when to drive. He will tell us where to set our thermostats in our houses. He will tell us the kind of food we must eat. He will create the perfect society, the perfect human race. We will never want again. He will provide everything we need. If we are without, he will make the neighbors share with us. He will insure that everyone will have something to eat and something to wear. He will be the guiding light to our future. We will all be happy and full of joy because Obama says we are. He will control our attitudes and provide us with hope that he will always make things better for us. Life could not be easier or better. He will look out for us. Put your full trust in him and he will deliver. He is the almighty, the Messiah, and the keeper of the people. We will get on out knees and worship him and the ground he walks on. We will never want anything again because he will make everything readily available to us. He has the answer to all our problems and our shortcomings. He will forgive us for our misdeeds and make us whole again. May our new God have mercy on our souls and bless our new kingdom; Obamanation! Always remember that you will have the Quran to fall back on, to read, and to enjoy! Always keep it near you and always look into the eyes of Obama in the pictures that will be provided to you. The pictures will always remind you who your savior is and to whom you will owe your great life. Teach your children and grandchildren to worship the man in the picure and they will always remain wholesome and happy! He will always show them the path to follow to become a great person like him! They must idolize him if they expect to be blessed. And, be sure to pat yourself on the back for choosing the Messiah and giving your children and grandchildren the security and wellness the Messiah has to offer. Always keep your Quran and his picture next to your bed and close to your heart and you will be happy forever! Brothers and sisters, I love you, and we will be together as one forever and ever!

  • Posted By: Krohn @ 10/12/2008 8:33:31 PM

    THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION CANDIDATE!

    NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY HAS A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BEEN GIVEN SUCH A FREE PASS BY THE PRESS AND JUST ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE!

    I AM WAITING FOR A BLACK PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO MAKE IT ON HIS OWN MERIT.

    COLIN POWELL COMES TO MIND!

  • Posted By: wendydk @ 10/11/2008 9:04:44 PM

    Sarah Palin is a traitor to America and to her party.

    Palins un-American activities
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/index.html

    Alaskan Independence Party chairwoman Lynette Clark talks about why she does not identify herself as an American, and about her kindred spirit Sarah Palin.
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/10/alaska_secession/index.html

    The pastor who clashed with Palin
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/15/bess/index.html

    Troopergate Report Concludes Palin Abused Power. Full 263 Page report here???
    http://download2.legis.state.ak.us/DOWNLOAD.pdf

    Palins Attack On Obamas Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About her Association With Group Founded By America-Hating Secessionist
    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palins_attack_on_obamas_patrio.php

    Palin And The Alaska Independence Party
    http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/the_alaska_independence_party.php

  • Posted By: neos @ 10/10/2008 10:47:55 PM

    Have you heard the one about the Alaskan Governor who violated the public trust? Oh, it's a real kneeslapper!

  • Posted By: Krohn @ 10/09/2008 7:25:51 PM

    They harassed her until she registered to vote six times!:
    http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3145562&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/

  • Posted By: redgolfer13 @ 10/09/2008 4:54:41 PM

    You have touched on a potentially serious wound to Obama and company. He along with Biden, Pelosi and others have made a deal with the devil so to speak in their support of abortion. It's plain in their comments that they are not committed abortion rights supporters. The parsing of answers to questions suggest an attempt to get some measure of forgiveness from the God they claim to believe in so fervently. At the same time culling the favor of NARAL and the voting block that goes with Roe vs Wade supporters. I wonder If they comtemplate their future afterlife at all.

  • Posted By: Krohn @ 10/08/2008 11:31:34 PM

    "Not all Democrats agree with Mr. Frank that such policies are off-limits to criticism. Last week Rep. Artur Davis of Alabama said in a statement: 'Like a lot of my Democratic colleagues I was too slow to appreciate the recklessness of Fannie and Freddie. I defended their efforts to encourage affordable homeownership, when in retrospect, I should have heeded the concerns raised by their regulator in 2004. Frankly, I wish my Democratic colleagues would admit when it comes to Fannie and Freddie, we were wrong.'

    "Mr. Davis is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus."

    'Rank snobbery'

    Camille Paglia, who supports Sen. Barack Obama, has nothing but scorn for the way the media has treated Sarah Palin.

    "The mountain of rubbish poured out about Palin over the past month would rival Everest. What a disgrace for our jabbering army of liberal journalists and commentators, too many of whom behaved like snippy jackasses," Miss Paglia writes at www.salon.com.

    "The bourgeois conventionalism and rank snobbery of these alleged humanitarians stank up the place. As for Palin's brutally edited interviews with Charlie Gibson and that viper, Katie Couric, don't we all know that the best bits ended up on the cutting-room floor? Something has gone seriously wrong with Democratic ideology, which seems to have become a candied set of holier-than-thou bromides attached like tutti-frutti to a quivering green Jell-O mold of adolescent sentimentality."

  • Posted By: divinely speaking @ 10/08/2008 7:20:19 PM

    "ARE THE DEMOCRATS DODGING ABORITON?" What a headline? Democrats are not pregnant. No need for abortion. But you may want to look closer at the Republicans. If you find them dodging abortion in favor of unwanted or forced marriage, please report it.

  • Posted By: nmlane @ 09/10/2008 2:18:45 PM

    you're telling me that you would rather take away a living womans right to choose to give a parasitic being, it cannot live on its own which makes it a parasite, the chance to live, no matter how traumatic it might be to the family? I just cant justify giving rights to something that cannot sustain life on its own. Giving away a womans right to choose is regressive, you should get out of other peoples business and focus on your own life.

    • Posted By: yanfu39 @ 10/08/2008 4:59:56 PM

      You know, your logic sounds vaguely similar to that of the Nazis and their justification for killing disabled persons. They were parasites that "drained" societies resources because they can't sustain life on their own. What you've basically said is that if you get in a car accident and are in the hospital and are only able to live for several weeks (or months) because of machines being hooked up to you, but after that you'd be ok on your own - your basically saying that during that period of time, because you can't support life on your own that you have no human rights and I could walk right up and kill you because well, you don't have a right to live?? What a crock! And they are not parasites because they rely on the mother. I have news for you - newborns can't support their own life either. If they are left alone for a prolonged period of time, they CANNOT feed themselves and will die without assistance. I guess they're parasites too and we should just kill them if they annoy us huh? People like you with your narcissistic self centered me me me view of the world make me sick. I had tol hold back my gag reflex after reading your comment so I didn't spew my guts out onto my computer.

      Bottom line is your logic magnifies why, religious beliefs aside, abortion is a danger to free nations and civil rights, because it claissifies one group of humans as being without rights, which opens the door up for further civil rights discriminiations. I'm not saying abortion should be outlawed in it's entirety. There are always exceptions to every rule - I'm not an extremist. But innocent blood cries from the ground of this nation daily and we are GUILTY of murder especially if the embryo/fetus is far enough along to feel emotion, pain, hunger, and other human traits. Some states can charge you with homicide if you attack a pregnant woman and the fetus dies. Why is there a double standard??

  • Posted By: wbpjr001 @ 10/08/2008 4:59:46 PM

    Fundamental Christianity does not support the pro-life argument. According to Genesis, the holy spirit enters the body on God's terms, not on science's. The notion that an embryo has a soul just because of some cellular interaction is a slap in the face to God. Genesis clearly separates the physical being from the spiritual one in no uncertain terms. The physical body is dust, and is only of consequence when it is inhabited by the Holy Spirit. This whole notion that pro-choice is a contradiction to God's will is just another example of "pick and choose" Christians not really understanding the Bible and the nuanced context in which it was designed to be read. I can certainly understand someone defending an embryo on some personal moral ground, but there is absolutely no foundation upon which to make a biblical argument. In fact, making a biblical argument almost amounts to blasphemey, since it takes away God's hand in the creation of a human soul.

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