The Democrats and the Abortion Wars

The biggest issue about this is this:
McCain got a free pass on the question of when life begins. He said, as if he had thought about his answer before showing up, "at conception."

The correct thing to do was to say, "Why?" Or, "Prove it."
This would have led McCain to actually have to think about it, and defend his answer which would probably have been amusing at least!.





He could just have easily said

tutlink777: "I created my children. My husband helped get it going, but I did the heavy lifting. If God did anything, it was creating the soul of my children. But I certainly made the bodies, brains, etc. That was all me and my nine extremely long months of hard work. Don't be so quick to take away my miracle. Not God's, mine." --------------------------------------- (Wow, talk about a controlling mother....)
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It's the economy, stupid!

Abortions should be LEGAL, SAFE, & RARE

Mr. Weigel,

This is from your article...

"For decades now, pro-life advocates have been arguing, on the basis of reason informed by science, that nothing human was ever anything other than human, and that nothing not human will ever become human. These are things we can know prior to our theological convictions (or lack thereof). Does Senator Obama disagree with these claims?"


I hope Senator Obama disagrees with these claims because they are false. Our atoms have passed from organism to organism for millions and millions of years. Read Bill Bryson's "A Short History of Nearly Everything" and you'll see how this science works (Excellent book by the way...from the NYT best seller list). Remember, matter is not destroyed...it just moves on to occupy space and create another entity elsewhere.

Brian Zehetner MS,RD,CSSD

dkcloud hasn't been paying attention. The ban on partial birth abortions was passed during the Bush administration.

Amen

If you are truly against abortions, as I am, and serious about decreasing the incidence of abortions rather than simply spouting off to show how morally superior you are, then you will vote Democratic. Republican policies ensure decreased health education, simplistic and failed planned parenthood policies, poor health care, continued poverty and the widening seperation between rich and poor - factors insuring the continuation of abortions, It would be great if preaching responsibility to teenagers were enough, but in our real world that hasn't worked. Let's work together to eliminate the social and economic causes of abortion.

Re: Squeezyr

They appoint the judges. Do you think Clinton or Obama would have appointed John Roberts as Chief Justice? The answer is no.

Will or can the evangenitals realize that the ONLY group that can alter abortion standards is the U.S. Supreme Court. What can any candidate do about it??

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Why is this even an issue?! The Republicans are just as much pro-choice as the Democrats or else they would have changed the law when they had total control over the house, senate, and presidency! The fact that both political parties use a woman's womb as a political football when they are dodging the real issues of the economy, healthcare, and the wars in Iraq and Afganistan is appalling. What is even worse is all of us poor schmucks fall for it every election! Have we not realized that when the important issues might sway the election one way or the other, they pull out the heartstring issues of abortion and gay marriage as a distracter? Get real people! Vote for the better of our country and not heartstring issues that niether party has any intention of changing!

Of course they are. The issue,in Obamas case,was not ''zygotes''or even the maturation of the fetus allowed by ROE to see lawful termination. It was an issue deriving from babies that were already delivered at full maturation and then allowed to die after botched abortion surgeries[The Chicago Christ Hospital mess in 1999 that led to large-scale Catholic and pro-life protests that introduced the Illinois BAIP Act that Obama found himself first defending,then squirming on. It is the spotlight on his quandry that brought pro-lifer Bob Casey[D-Pa],out of the bullpen to Go To Denver And Deliver Up Obama To The Doubting Pro-Lifers].
In Pelosis,it is the ignorance of her own church,claiming as she did yesterday before Tom Brokaw on Meet The Press where she described herself as an ''ardent Catholic'',while yet playing a ploy with her Invent-A-Gawd[TM],hoping that no-one would notice by stating that the Catholic proscribing against abortion was ''only 50 years old'',which is ridiculous on its face as for centuries,Catholics and popes have railed against the practice going back to the first century AD.
What is causing the Democrats to play dodgeball with this issue is that if we were only speaking of ''zygotes'',everyone would sleep more comfortably. Government would ''keep their hands''off the womans body,''pro-choice''Catholics would be able to speak to their God with a straight face,nominally pro-choice seculars including the Bob Caseys and Bob Fords would not make much racket,and the law of ROE would remain intact.
But when they are no longer ''zygotes'',but are well beyond the third trimester on the poise of live-birth,with a functioning central nervous system,the ability to feel hunger and pain,and are even able to see with the full development of corneas,eardrums,digestive and circulatory systems,and the demand is to still kill these, Catholics[or all who advocate the presence of a ''God'',which includes Obama], are left with two choices. Remain pro-choice,or join the ranks of Jesus'Pharisee hypocrites and await their celestial fate.[while those who could care a fig about ''religion''yet find such practices in an ostensibly liberal,civilized society to be barbaric].

In other words, you want the Dems to be exactly like the Repubs when it comes to abortion, right? Tell you what: You figure a way how to keep people from having sex (rape and incest of course do NOT count, having nothing to do with sex), make the daddies who are gutless in not taking responsibility for their carelessness (while in some cases being married to their wives), and forcing many women (though not all, I'll admit for other reasons) to go through their truma about keeping their baby alone, then we'll talk. I'm personally oppoed to abortion, but I have no intention of dictating to a woman (I'm a man, btw, I couldn't possibly understand, just sympathize) what she should do with a part of her body. She and the doctor who performed the abortion will have to answer for that someday.