The Anti-Cheney?

How Biden would compare to Bush's No. 2.

By Michael Hirsh | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Aug 27, 2008 | Updated: 7:03  p.m. ET Aug 27, 2008

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  • Posted By: Dare270 @ 08/29/2008 4:11:45 PM

    Comment: Thank god that the right wing conservatives are on their way out and that the American people are finally seeing their lies and deception that they try and pass off as facts or the truth. Much like the idiot right wing conservatives on here who spew out their complete bullsh*t and has the stupidity to site right wing whack jobs internet sites that are full of lies to support their lies.

    Yeah nice try right wing conservative idiots.
    No more McBush 08

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/29/2008 1:07:04 PM

    Comment: Today John McCain said "My Friends,As for my VEEP being under ETHICS INVESTIGATION, I AM A POW!"

    • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/29/2008 3:42:26 PM

      Comment: Yeah. For firing non-peforming cull-personnel[her ex-brother in law as it happens] . Not for handing off 3.4 million in our money to her own son[that would be Joe Biden].

      www.porkbusters.com

      • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/29/2008 6:02:38 PM

        Comment: "non-perfroming"? That's what here sister said, and all was fine until the break up.

  • Posted By: Dare270 @ 08/29/2008 12:31:34 PM

    Comment: Yeah that's why our national debt is over 10 trillion, but when Clinton left office, we had a surplus.
    More right wing conservative bullsh*t from Phil08. Too bad you just have to look at the deficit to see who runs the bill up the most.
    Nice try idiot but once again you failed to pass off your bullsh*t as facts.

    No more McBush 08

  • Posted By: Phil08 @ 08/29/2008 11:56:00 AM

    Comment: What Costs More Per Year than the Iraq War?

    ANSWER__DEMOCRATS


    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
    each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
    such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
    http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal
    aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary
    school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a
    word of English!
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
    American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare
    and Social Services by the American taxpayers.
    http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are
    caused by the illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

    10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's
    two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,
    their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in
    the US . http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
    that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal
    aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs,
    cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the
    Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

    12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of
    mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average
    cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year
    period."
    http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back
    to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm


    14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex
    Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ".
    http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

    Total cost is a whooping... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!

    If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message, but on the
    other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, then
    forward it.



  • Posted By: Dare270 @ 08/29/2008 11:10:32 AM

    Comment: I cannot wait for election day so we can get these right wing conservative idiots out of our government and take our country back for Americans. I am so glad that these right wing conservatives are finally being seen for what they are, anti-Americans who want to destroy this country at the benefit of the rich.

  • Posted By: Stop lying to America @ 08/29/2008 6:46:01 AM

    Comment: "He's only running because he is black. He has no experience at all." Can you get more ridiculous without seeming racist? Senator Obama has enough experience to know that America cannot continue to move in the direction it has for the last eight years. It would seem many Americans and many others abroad agree.

  • Posted By: Stop lying to America @ 08/29/2008 6:39:10 AM

    Comment: I thought this article was going to be interesting. Contrasting open and honest Biden with secretive and behind the scenes Cheney. No, it goes on to try to cast doubt on Obama (again) but adds a new wrinkle " Is Biden too cocky?" Does the media even try to provide the public with any answers anymore? Or has it just become a matter of who can ask the most inane questions?

  • Posted By: emmarcee @ 08/28/2008 10:48:12 PM

    Comment: Now that HE has been crowned it may be the time for exposition. Please google: Obama's money machine and we will find how his team successfully raised enormous amounts of money through internet scheme and bundlers all under the radar.
    Search you will find. The same money machine which worked for Obama stands to gain from him. From what? from his sleazy promise of going energy "independent" by investing 150 billion into renewable energy market. Who are these people behind obama, the same people from the time of Silicon Valley Internet boom, which left millions of retiress poorer exactly by the end of Clinton Era. So if it was internet bubble at the time of Clinton and oil energy bubble with Bush Cheney. ... wait till you see the next bubble.... with the pumping of 150 billion dollars into sham projects. I just have to post this theory since that is one way I can keep my consceince clean. Thank you. I don't mind if Republicans run with this idea and revelation.

  • Posted By: Dartay @ 08/28/2008 9:19:26 PM

    Comment: GEEZ...Biden and Cheney in the same sentence....it's speechless! Too bad Biden wasn't the TOP of the ticket....MAN OBama LUCKED out!

  • Posted By: johnnianouris @ 08/28/2008 8:13:16 PM

    Comment: Remember it was the democratic presidency of Bill Clinton that took down an American family at Ruby Ridge Idaho, murdering a young mother and her baby. And it was also the same democratic president that killed hundreds of women and children at the Branch complex in Waco TX. Obama will only seek to further undermine this country. He's only running because he is black. He has no experience at all.

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/28/2008 7:37:02 PM

    Comment: The problem for McCain is his "Judgment", if he really had superior military insight, he would have never agreed to go to Iraq until Afghanistan was "mission accomplished". If mccain would have wanted to defeat Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, where they make base and train, if he would have wanted to actually bring BIN LADEN to justice, if MCCAIN has TRUE judgment, he would have stood on the floor of the Senate and said "WRONG WAR WRONG TIME!" We would have "WON" in Afghanistan, instead of "cutting" our ability to supply more troops and "running" to Iraq, for a "WAR FOR OIL" and for the bush ego.

    If McCain had done that, there would not have been a "SURGE" required, AT ALL. thousands of Iraqis and hundreds od Americans would have been saved...but NOPE! McCain and BUSH wanted to go to a country that NEVER ATTACKED THE US, and star another war, and now MCCAIN AND BUSH want to go "bomb Iran, bomb bomb Iran". before Afghanistan or Iraq are clear...and you call that a "military mentality", you call that "Judgment"?

    150 COWARD, I OWN YOU DavHerpe ;)

  • Posted By: barblze @ 08/28/2008 6:45:57 PM

    Comment: There is no comparision Biden is so far above Cheney on so many levels. Cheney is the #2 sleaze after Bush. Third is the whole republican party.

  • Posted By: varacefan @ 08/28/2008 4:40:45 PM

    Comment: Hello!! Bush or Cheney are not running. You guys have nothing useful to discuss so you bring up crap like this. Are you that hard up?

    • Posted By: justathought717 @ 08/28/2008 5:38:51 PM

      Comment:
      Do you think that maybe this is why people keep talking about the McCain/Bush connection?
      facgtcheck.org

      Is it true John McCain voted with George Bush 95 percent of the time?

      June 13, 2008

      Yes, it's true, according to Congressional Quarterly's assessment of McCain's voting record.

    • Posted By: reinadelaz @ 08/28/2008 4:42:46 PM

      Comment: Bush, Cheney and McCain are all for the status quo. We need change.

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/28/2008 3:40:25 PM

    Comment: Dunno. There is ''Plagerizing Joe'' Biden. And there is ''My IQ Is Better Than Yours''Biden. And there is ''I Lied About My College Graduation Standing''Biden. Then There is ''Regular Roots Scranton''Biden. Then There Is ''I Collected Millions From Credit-Card Companies''Biden. Then there is ''Tough No-nonsense My Own Guy''Biden. Then there is ''I Doled Out Over Three Million In Taxpayer Pork Money To My Own Son'' Biden. There is also ''The Catholic Church Doesn't Know What It Is Talking About''Biden,followed by the ''I Don't Know What I Am Taking About With Regards To The Catholic Church''Biden. There is the ''Convention Speech Illinois Citizens Get the Best Tax Breaks''Biden. Then there is also ''But I Did Not Mention That Illinois Citizens Pay the Highest Sales Taxes In America''Biden. ''Humble Roots''Biden. Or ''Fatcat''Biden. You pick. These places will help you decide.

    The Center for Responsive Politics www.opensecrets.org ''Biden,Joseph''[Campaign contributors]

    PORKBUSTERS www.porkbusters.com [Biden,Joseph. Pork monies to above campaign contributors].

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/28/2008 3:07:17 PM

    Comment: Gallup Daily: Obama Moves Ahead, 48% to 42%

  • Posted By: valark @ 08/28/2008 3:04:19 PM

    Comment:
    When you talk about Biden and his integrity, I wonder how you excuse the issues that he has had in the past, notably the plagiarism and things like that. I am not looking for a fight, I am just curious as to if its just selective attention to actions, or if there is a reasoning used to excuse his behavior.

    Please, also, if you don't know the whole story, please read about it first. He didn't just copy a line from someone else's speech, he copied their personal history and values and basically directed the pronouns in the original speech to himself and his family. So it is a bit disturbing on that level.

    I am also curious as to him giving advice how to have conversations equates at all to foreign relation skills when it is a known issue that he wanted to segregate and divide the populace based on belief and ethnicity.

    Again, not looking for a fight...would like a thoughtful answer if anyone is at the computer and has the time. A lot of times if you just plainly state your case, it helps someone like me see things in a different perspective. I am not looking to debate or decide if your beliefs are right or wrong, I just want to hear them without all the anger chatter that derails 95% of the posts here.

    • Posted By: reinadelaz @ 08/28/2008 4:39:40 PM

      Comment: As for the speech he lifted from the Brit, there were several times in which he gave that speech and cited his source before the one time he gave it and did not. As for the segregation of Iraq, iti is a common sense approach, as religion and ethinicity is exactly what these people are fighting over. Perhaps it oversimplifies the problem, kind of like sending squabbling children each to their own rooms. If you cannot or will not get along, just stay away from each other. Iraq is a mess, though, because Bush/Cheney would not follow Biden's call to leave Saddam Hussein in power. Bush Sr. did this in the 90's because he, like Joe Biden, understood that it took a brutal dictator to keep the factions from killing each other. Hope this helps you see things my way :) Obama/Biden 08

  • Posted By: rikip @ 08/28/2008 2:38:17 PM

    Comment: Once again Obama shows his lack of intellect by picking Biden, a lackluster Senator at best.

    • Posted By: justathought717 @ 08/28/2008 5:44:24 PM

      Comment: There is nothing lackluster about Sen. Biden. There is obviously something special in his character that has made people keep him around for more than 35 years.

  • Posted By: Phil08 @ 08/28/2008 1:34:17 PM

    Comment: Biden unpopular in Iraq for autonomy plan
    Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:40am EDT

    By Peter Graff and Khalid al-Ansary

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Senator Joe Biden may be one of the only U.S. politicians that can get Iraq's feuding Sunni, Shi'ite and Kurdish politicians to agree. But not in a good way.
    Across racial and religious boundaries, Iraqi politicians on Saturday bemoaned Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama's choice of running mate, known in Iraq as the author of a 2006 plan to divide the country into ethnic and sectarian enclaves.


    "This choice of Biden is disappointing, because he is the creator of the idea of dividing Iraq," Salih al-Mutlaq, head of National Dialogue, one of the main Sunni Arab blocs in parliament, told Reuters.
    "We rejected his proposal when he announced it, and we still reject it. Dividing the communities and land in such a way would only lead to new fighting between people over resources and borders.


    Iraq cannot survive unless it is unified, and dividing it would keep the problems alive for a long time."
    Delaware senator Biden unveiled his plan to divide Iraq into a federation of autonomous Sunni, Shi'ite and Kurdish zones at a time when sectarian killing in Iraq was out of control and getting worse.
    "The idea, as in Bosnia, is to maintain a united Iraq by decentralizing it, giving each ethno-religious group -- Kurd, Sunni Arab and Shiite Arab -- room to run its own affairs," he proposed in a May 2006 piece he co-wrote in the New York Times.

    • Posted By: neos @ 08/28/2008 5:28:53 PM

      Comment: Please use language carefully. Your comment is misleading. According to your story a SUNNI is unhappy with Senator Biden. I can tell you that the Kurdish iraqis are delighted with the idea of a Belgium style federalism. As for the Shi'ite??? Because of these disparate longings, no American politician's plan, be it Republican or Democratic, will be universally acceptable in Iraq.

  • Posted By: Hope Hill @ 08/28/2008 1:27:03 PM

    Comment: I don't understand all the blah, blah of your article. THERE IS NO COMPARISON AT ALL WITH DEMOCRATS AND CHENEY, ROVE & BUSH. Of course even when chauvinistic media and extreme right republicans hate it, THERE IS NO ONE LIKE HILLARY, and we all know it. After Hillary, Joe is not a bad choice.

    Barack and Joe, have principles, are humane, decent, with policies and plans for the future of the country,
    the poor, middle class, education, health, etc. etc. Republicans specially this administration all that they
    care about is making money for themselves and their rich friends, and creating wars around the world as a business, killing millions of human beings, while our people are practically starving, loosing their homes &
    jobs. That is not only inhumane, but inmoral and criminal.
    Hope Hill

    • Posted By: justathought717 @ 08/28/2008 5:57:22 PM

      Comment: I agree. This administration has shown through example what they are here for. War and money. I can only imagine how much money they have made in the last 8 years.

      Our only hope for this country is to get the Democrats back into the White House. How can people forget what it was like the last time Dems were in there? My family was in so much better shape financially back then, as well as most other Americans. Yes, I understand that certain issues come up that the President cannot control, but it is the policies he makes in response that make the difference.

      Everyone is talking about Obama's lack of experience, yet it seems like he has made many decisions that have proved to be correct while Bush (McCain-note voting record) have made some pretty bad choices. Obama/Biden really seem very sincere in wanting to turn our country around and make it a better place to live. Let's vote to make their hope our reality.

  • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 08/28/2008 11:28:39 AM

    Comment: The sign of a good manager is one who hires people who are smarter than himself, not that Obama is a dummy by any stretch of the imagination.
    But the selection of Biden is brilliant.

    The fact is Cheney has put his own economy above and beyond anything else, did you not notice Cheney's income in 2006 was 1.6 million and 3.2 million in 2007 and that would not include the dollars from Iraq that went through Dubai to the Caymans tax free via KBR or future payouts as a result of his efforts in favor of the oil companies.

    That we are going to have both a president and a vice president not just with intelligence and a common sense approch, but a Vision for America is exciting.

    Yes Biden is indeed the very opposite of Cheney.

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 08/28/2008 12:53:57 PM

      Comment: does that mean that the both of them will be screwing all of us ?

  • Posted By: katiec @ 08/28/2008 10:17:09 AM

    Comment: It is an insult to Joe Biden and the Democratic Party to dare to compare them with Cheny.
    He has been the one pulling the puppet's strings these last eight years.This wil not
    happen once the Democrats are in.
    He, Bush and Mccain with his undying support have almost destroyed our country.
    Barack Obama and Joe Biden are honorable men.
    Cannot say the same for the three mentioned above.

  • Posted By: emmarcee @ 08/28/2008 8:52:59 AM

    Comment: Forign Policy BS!!. when we are distracted Bidens people (jusyt like Cheney) will be skimming money from the markets.. Now , you can open your eyes. Just think who is behind Obama machine?.. there are forces trying not to sink.. (fiancial.. who will like to get more support from govt).. Obamas machine did all the fund raising under the radar... as "bundlers".. This is disgusting.

  • Posted By: emmarcee @ 08/28/2008 8:34:23 AM

    Comment: NO HIRSH, DON'T FOOL US. BIDEN IS "Cheney for Obama.". It is the same set up... inexperienced president .. experienced politician VP.. if Cheney had oil base, Biden has credit card company base.. as well as extreme left base. I am sure there are pople behing this selection just like Bush could n't shake of Cheney even in the second term!!. Just gives you an idea about who is behind Obama's rise!!

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 08/28/2008 11:32:05 AM

      Comment: Let me guess....Obama?

      • Posted By: justathought717 @ 08/28/2008 6:02:19 PM

        Comment: Damn those Democrats, they want to use Obama to make America a stronger country once again. I can't believe the nerve. How dare them educate our children, bring some more stability and respect back to the US, healthcare to the uninsured, more jobs, more hope and basically more good for all. What a shame if they actually succeed!! Obam/Biden '08!!!!

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 08/28/2008 9:48:49 AM

      Comment: His son Hunter does.

  • Posted By: woohoo @ 08/28/2008 7:47:37 AM

    Comment: if it wasn't for two chances to make history-first black pres and first woman pres-biden would have been the nominee. hands down.

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/28/2008 6:15:58 AM

    Comment: By the end of this general Joe Biden will not be able to get the smell of McCain's a$$ off his foot, like mccian can't get the smell of bush's a$$ off his own lips ;)

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 08/28/2008 7:20:33 AM

      Comment: AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GET OBAMA'S BALLS OFF YOUR CHIN !

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 08/28/2008 7:19:51 AM

      Comment: QUIT SPREADING HERPIES ON ALL THE BLOGS!

      • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/28/2008 3:10:14 PM

        Comment: Oh that's Davherpe that does that son. The problem is I could even lift Obama Balls to my chin, to fricken huge ;)

        But the truth sure did shake you up, ya know the Biden foot/mccain a$$ issue...LMAO!

        • Posted By: reinadelaz @ 08/28/2008 4:20:44 PM

          Comment: Is this vulgarity all you guys know? There are serious issues at stake.

          • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/29/2008 1:07:53 PM

            Comment: Today John McCain said "My Friends,As for my VEEP being under ETHICS INVESTIGATION, I AM A POW!"

  • Posted By: Cashew @ 08/28/2008 5:08:44 AM

    Comment: iI believe Biden is perfect for this position. Obama said he wanted a VP that would have the same goals as he, but be strong enough to stand up to him when he is making a mistake. He said, "Tell me when I am wrong."

  • Posted By: 8yearsoffear @ 08/28/2008 2:20:41 AM

    Comment: Mc Cains judgement? What judgement?

    - Cheated on his injured wife after car accident
    - Left her and his kids for another younger woman.
    - Received a marriage license before he was divorced from his first wife.
    - Married current wife 1 month after divorce.
    - Keating five!
    - Quotes-??? The economy is fine!???
    - Quotes-"Nobody supported Bush more than I have"
    - Did not know how many houses he owns.
    - He Voted for Irag war.
    - He said we would be greeted as friends?
    - ???I'm POw I'm A Pow POw Pow POw POw POw Pow Pow!??? How many times do we have to hear this?

    Wake up people! Please don???t fall for the same crap again!

  • Posted By: loriw @ 08/28/2008 2:16:05 AM

    Comment: Check out the Obama Anthem on Glennbeck.com or on Youtube.
    funniest thing I have seen since the JibJab video.
    Russian national anthem with the words changed.

  • Posted By: Dustin18 @ 08/28/2008 2:09:25 AM

    Comment: Heard a story from the media today concerning McIdiot, McBush or whatever people call this old man.
    He said quote "The economy is sound" is he kidding, if that's true, why are there 1 million foreclosurees,
    why are people losing their jobs? why are companies not making a profits? This McIdiot dosen't have a clue
    to what is going on. How anybody can vote for him, must be out of their minds. We need a change.

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/28/2008 8:24:09 AM

      Comment: his weakness is definitly his lack of knowledge about the economy. I am surprised obama hasn't made more serious attacks on his economic policies, unfortunatly the average american is too ignorant to understand why mr. mccain is an economic dumbass. as for romney, he might be able to run a company but he didn't do S*%& for the economy of massachusetts

      • Posted By: reinadelaz @ 08/28/2008 4:17:31 PM

        Comment: Have you seen a high school econonmics curriculum? It is by design that we are a nation of blindly conspicuous consumers. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. We must put a stop to the policies of voodoo economics and restore the middle class if we are to remain a world power. Obama/ Biden all the way!

      • Posted By: rightofcenter @ 08/28/2008 9:29:14 AM

        Comment: I LOVE IT WHEN YOU LIBS SHOW SO MUCH DISDAIN FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SHOWS WHERE YOUR HEAD IS REALLY AT. THANKS

        • Posted By: justathought717 @ 08/28/2008 6:11:34 PM

          Comment: Unfortunately, we are held back by the policies of men that are jokes, who the punchline will personally be delivered to on November 4, 2008 with the announcement that Obama/Biden won the election. Then you will see true disdain, and it will be amonst the Republicans who are proven so wrong when our country comes back to the peope, of the people and for the people and not only in the best interests of the pockets of the politicians who are at the helm.

  • Posted By: Dustin18 @ 08/28/2008 1:42:33 AM

    Comment: What a great question. There is no comparison. Dick Cheney is the biggest jerk. Joe Biden is an excellent
    choice. Cheney is a sick, tired old man, he has no spunk, he never did, he is as bad as Bush.
    GO OBAMA/BIDEN!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: brandonb @ 08/28/2008 12:29:39 AM

    Comment: I don't know how any Christian in the world would ever vote for Obama or any Democrat for that matter. Take any major issue we are facing in this country right now, chose which way you would vote on it and then ask yourself what would Jesus do. See which side of the isle Christ would end up on.

    • Posted By: barblze @ 08/28/2008 6:54:44 PM

      Comment: Brandon, GO TO CHURCH your brainwashing isn't complete!

    • Posted By: kdenver411 @ 08/28/2008 1:50:47 PM

      Comment: It is disgusting how the right uses religion (specifically the evangelical branch of christianity) and fear ("their policies encourage homosexuality" - actually heard that from a relative) to blindly lead the flock to serve their agenda. If you really took the time to evaluate the "major issues we are facing in this country right now" you would realize that you are living with blinders on. Would Jesus not want people to have affodable healthcare? Would he not want us to help protect the environment for future generations? Would he not want to improve the quality of the education for our children? Go ahead and use your fear over abortion and gay rights as justification, but don't drag Jesus into it. You do not (and should not try to) speak for him. That is blasphamy... look it up: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=blasphemy

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 08/28/2008 10:01:10 AM

      Comment: Democrat...Democrat...major issues we are facing in this country and you are blaming Democrats. Bush has just wiped his brow because he thought you were going to blame him for this.

      Please don't put Jesus into politics. We are ALL sinners.

    • Posted By: millerm84 @ 08/28/2008 8:25:15 AM

      Comment: What Jesus would do is not what Christians in this country would do trust me. Jesus would have never bombed Iraq or Afghanistan, or hunted bin Laden, in fact Jesus would have dropped food, medicine, and books into those countries, and told bin Laden that he was forgiven for all his crimes. Jesus would stop abortions not by outlawing them but by having the government pay for each and every child born out of wedlock. The truth of the matter is that outside of banning abortion and praying in schools, republicans stand against every thing Jesus would do. If you can't see that then you are as dumb as you are blind.

      • Posted By: scj8495 @ 08/28/2008 10:52:04 AM

        Comment: I must be blind because I don't see it. But then I don't have your certainty and knowledge regarding what Jesus would do in these circumstances. It must be a great thing to have your insight!

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/28/2008 8:25:01 AM

      Comment: yeah cuz obviously jesus hates arabs right?

    • Posted By: Dustin18 @ 08/28/2008 1:48:25 AM

      Comment: Forget the Jesus nonsense, religion has no place in politics. This is the real world. Wake Up!!!!!
      What about the economy, social security, the ridiculous problems in Iraq, the jobless & housing
      problems. You religious fanactics live in a fantasy world. Face the real issues, NOT RELIGION.

      • Posted By: Americansforabetterusa @ 08/28/2008 2:24:06 AM

        Comment: Just to let you know that the House of reps has it's own chaplain. Yes it's true and every session of congress begins with a prayer, so I guess they still believe that god has a place in politics.

        • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/28/2008 8:33:08 AM

          Comment: oh that sucks, guess its a good thing there aren't many non-christians in the congress. so much for the seperation of church and state

    • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/28/2008 12:49:51 AM

      Comment: What some of you do not understand, is that the party who has ruled this country for the past 8 years is not the republican party you belong too. It is a neofascist party! NEOFASCIST do you know what the word mean??

    • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/28/2008 12:41:27 AM

      Comment: Your dear jesus would be on the side of the poor, not the rich.. religious have a twisted brain and a twistied thought process. That is why this country is in such a mess!
      I say, death to religion, hello to sciences and progress and peace!

      • Posted By: Dustin18 @ 08/28/2008 1:55:29 AM

        Comment: YOU ARE SO RIGHT. RELIGION IS TO BLAME FOR 9/11. RELIGION IS WHY WE ARE IN SUCH A MESS.
        I AGREE, RELIGION SHOULD NEVER PLAY A PART IN POLITICS. IT'S WRONG, AND MOST PEOPLE
        REALLY DON'T CARE. WHAT WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT, IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY OUR BILLS?
        THIS IS WHY 8 YEARS OF REPUBLICANS HAVE TO SCRAM. BRING BACK THE DEMOCRATS.

      • Posted By: firemedic258 @ 08/28/2008 1:43:28 AM

        Comment: Hello to science and progress.....this from a woman who can't master birth control.....

    • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/28/2008 12:38:28 AM

      Comment: Jesus did not own a gun as far as I know. So yes he would be on the side of the democrats, too bad that you religious people did not understood that 8 years ago. You chose the side of the war mongers! Religious peoples are idiots... the day they stop believing in fairy tales and start believing in sciences, then maybe we will have peace in the world.

  • Posted By: GeorgiaGirl @ 08/27/2008 11:36:00 PM

    Comment: Seems like loriw thinks McCain is a mental giant, as GW Bush must be in her eyes. And McCain running circles around Obama at the Warren forum is a perception that only a Republican could have. For those who have problems with "senior moments"...and things like calling Putin Kruschev (which has happened only in Ms. W's imagination) or calling the Czech Republic Czechoslovakia (which McCain really did)...you are going to have some problems with the elderly, confused McCain.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/27/2008 11:42:28 PM

      Comment: At least McCain didn't lie about how he voted on issues like Obama did on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act . Look it up on Factcheck, girl.

      • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/28/2008 12:34:30 AM

        Comment: Why don't you mind your own business!!!
        I have had 4 abortions and have no guilt at all!! On the contrary, I make room for your kids and allow them to share more of the world natural resources! So thanks people like me who are responsible and do not make a kid without thinking!!

        • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 08/28/2008 7:25:15 AM

          Comment: SOME ADVISE FOR YOU WHO HAD 4 ABORTIONS TAKE SMALL STEPS IF YOU TAKE LARGE STEPS YOUR GUTS MAY FALL OUT !! THIS WOMAN'S UTERUS IS AN DAMN PARKING SPOT !!

          • Posted By: barblze @ 08/28/2008 6:59:53 PM

            Comment: You have to be a republican and evangelical only someone who is could be that ignorant!

        • Posted By: firemedic258 @ 08/28/2008 1:38:18 AM

          Comment: You do not make a kid without thinking but have had four abortions? OOKKAAYYY.. I am pro-choice. However, abortion shouldn't be birth control. Are you this moronic that you can't find a better form of birth control? For God sake's try a condom! They are cheap and relatively easy to master for anyone with an IQ above 80 and a fifth grade education. You are the poster child for the pro-life movement. The one who makes it harder and harder for women to keep abortion legal. If you can't master a condom, keep your legs closed so you don't mess with my legal rights!

        • Posted By: onepoker @ 08/28/2008 1:33:39 AM

          Comment: That is just sick if you are lying. and even sicker if you are telling the truth.

      • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/28/2008 12:31:59 AM

        Comment: I would be very surprised if you even listen at the people who spoke at the convention tonight, I don't think you could have understood a word of what they said.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/27/2008 11:39:55 PM

      Comment: And Obama thinks there are 57 states in the U.S.A. Perhaps if he had studied Geography in America he would have realized that there are only 50 states.

      • Posted By: max in fl @ 08/28/2008 10:12:48 AM

        Comment: McCain knows geography. Likely

  • Posted By: bluesgutter @ 08/27/2008 11:29:20 PM

    Comment: COMPARING BIDEN TO CHENEY IS AN INCREDIBLE INSULT TO BIDEN. BIDEN IS A MAN WHO HAS A LIFETIME OF SERVICE TO THE COUNTRY AND CHENEY IS A TRAITOR.

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 08/28/2008 7:28:12 AM

      Comment: TRY SAYING THAT DURING THE DEBATES BOTH OF YOUR ASS CLOWNS WILL BE STOMPED INTO THE MUD BECAUSE THEY CAN'T READ THE ANSWERS OFF A SCRIPT !!

    • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/28/2008 12:26:53 AM

      Comment: Agree with you!! Cheney is a neofascist and does not deserved to be call an american. He is the typical anti american. He should be shot by a firing squad.

      • Posted By: barblze @ 08/28/2008 7:03:12 PM

        Comment: WELL SAID! You should have added that that is true of the total republican party.

  • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/27/2008 11:27:01 PM

    Comment: Listening at John Kerry's speech, it baffles me how could anyone could have voted for a man like Bush!! It is mind boggling!
    Kerry's intellect is so MUCH above bush's.
    Democrats are so right on so many things!! THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY PEOPLE, NOT THE 19TH!!

  • Posted By: loriw @ 08/27/2008 11:04:57 PM

    Comment: Hah hah hee hee, Biden doesn't remember who is on the ticket he is running against!
    Freudian slip? Doubt it!
    Senior moment, probably.
    This is going to be Obama's right hand man if Obama wins in the 57 states?
    And this is the person Obama is going to depend on to run his foreign policy? He would probably call Putin ..Kruschev.

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 08/28/2008 10:23:41 AM

      Comment: It appears only some of us got it.

    • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/28/2008 12:28:40 AM

      Comment: Please can you spare us your lies and ignorance?

  • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 08/27/2008 10:16:25 PM

    Comment: Beau Biden is like Andrew Bernard, but less funny

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 08/28/2008 7:29:50 AM

      Comment: YEP I'VE SEEN THE SENATORS KIDS IN IRAQ WHILE I WAS THERE THEY ALL STAY IN THE GREEN ZONE SAFE AND SOUND THEN USE THE ACTIVE DUTY STATUS AS A POLITICAL TOOL !! THEY'RE ALL COWARDS !

  • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 08/27/2008 9:58:26 PM

    Comment: Tom Hanks is a Democrat?
    dammit

    • Posted By: emmarcee @ 08/28/2008 8:38:30 AM

      Comment: a jew and a hollywood actor, how surprising!! atheistic too? may be Kaballah!!

  • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 08/27/2008 9:34:35 PM

    Comment: NOOOOO!!!!!
    Aaaaagghhhh....

  • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 08/27/2008 9:32:36 PM

    Comment: Thank God Kerry lost. What a retard. Of course he lost.

    • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/27/2008 11:32:04 PM

      Comment: You are the one who is the retarded!! You white trash, is the vermin who needs to be stopped!

      • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 08/28/2008 7:32:37 AM

        Comment: You is write good, me think.

  • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 08/27/2008 9:30:00 PM

    Comment: John Kerry is so gay.

  • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 08/27/2008 9:24:54 PM

    Comment: If Bill Clinton -- surely one of the most moral and trustworthy of our leaders -- wants to endorse Obama, then I understand why 44 percent of the American public think Obama has the cojones for the job.

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 08/28/2008 10:33:41 AM

      Comment: I can't wait for Bush to stand up and also say, "if you love my presidency, and the direction of the US, please vote for McCain"..

      Did you like that loriw?

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/27/2008 10:59:25 PM

      Comment: do i perceive a hint of sarcasm in your comment ? :)

  • Posted By: uturner @ 08/27/2008 8:58:08 PM

    Comment: There could be a difference of character between Biden and Cheney, but it is not a fundamental difference. When it comes to serious things, they are pretty much the same. They both support aggressive US foreign policy and both represent the interest of the military-industrial complex. Biden quickly sided with the administration hawks on punishing Russia for its Georgia transgressions. If it goes on like this, there will be only cosmetic change in the US foreign policy under the Obama-Biden administration. The war in Iraq will end, but it will be replaced by confrontation with Russia. That is, more of the same: overblown military budget at the expense of increasing the national debt, burdening the economy, and lowering living standards of an average American.

    The real change that Americans expect from Obama should be a radical departure from the current foreign policy. Ending the wars, mending fences with Russia, and, with Russian cooperation, solving the Mid-Eastern problem. Diverting taxpayers money from fat cats at Northrop and Raytheon to solving energy and environment problems, creation of jobs, fixing medical care and education.

    But Obama's choice of a hardened cold warrior as his VP makes all this highly unlikely.

  • Posted By: klebrun @ 08/27/2008 8:29:49 PM

    Comment: Cheney will continue to be a political powerhouse as the front man for the oil industry, military suppliers and the right wing business community. It is inconceivable that this power hungry right winger will willingly give up anything just because he has lost the title of VP.

    With McCain averse to getting involved in the details, he will be dependent upon his handlers for the information that he receives concerning foreign and domestic issues.

    Cheney, as Bush's handler, is reported to have fed Bush only the information that Cheney wanted Bush to have.

    Given Cheney's position of power amongst the financially powerful, it is very conceivable that Cheney will end up controlling McCain's handlers and that Cheney will contnue to effectively call the shots in a McCain presidency.

    • Posted By: Galasso @ 08/27/2008 8:50:34 PM

      Comment: That will never happen - you obviously do not know the history between these two.

      • Posted By: klebrun @ 08/28/2008 8:58:19 AM

        Comment: And you don't know the power that Cheney has and the disconnect that McCain has.

  • Posted By: Galasso @ 08/27/2008 8:29:36 PM

    Comment: You have to chuckle at Romney's repeat of a description of Biden from the past. When asked if he thought Biden would be a formidable debate candidate (if Romney is the pick) - he said Biden has been described as "an impenetrable thicket of words". Biden rarely has a private thought, but he is the logical keel of stability if the country elects someone as radical and idealistic as Obama.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 08/27/2008 11:12:13 PM

      Comment: Between Biden's "impenetrable thicket of words" and Obama's "nuance" (read- shell game with words)
      the debates should be pretty entertaining. McCain is going to run circles around Obama just like he did at the Warren forum.
      "Tell me words don't matter" ???
      They do when we see that they contradict themselves.

      • Posted By: max in fl @ 08/28/2008 10:42:54 AM

        Comment: Is McCain still running? I'd buy walking circles around while Obama was tying his shoe laces..

      • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/28/2008 8:38:06 AM

        Comment: it was a forum not a debate, only you republicans are stupid enough to think you can win a forum which was supposed to expose people to the candidates ideas about useless issues that conservatives lose sleep over

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 08/27/2008 7:22:28 PM

    Comment: Of course Biden won't revert to the old VP role. He's too talented a man to waste in such a way.

    And Obama won't ask him to.

    A true leader gathers as many sharp advisors around him as possible. A true leader doesn't have to have all the answers - he just needs to know where he can find them. I believe Obama when he says he doesn't want a 'yes' man - and he certainly doesn't have one in Biden.

    Obama can feel quite competent about his foreign policy insticts and still seek out other wise opinions. In fact, a person who is confident in his ability is more likely to feel comfortable with feedback and input - only the insecure avoid discussion and challenge. (Just like Bush the Younger avoiding the advice of both his father and Colin Powell, because he couldn't stand to hear from others who didn't see it his way).

    Many have praised Governor Schweitzer of Montana for his speech last night, correctly noting that he has many intellegent things to say about energy. Obama has gone to Montana no less than 4 times - 3 electoral votes are not the main prize there; Schweitzer's expertise is.Kudos to Obama for seeking him out.

    One of the most telling comments LBJ had about a young (read: inexperienced) president Kennedy was the depth and breadth of the advisors around him. That lesson hasn't been lost on Barack Obama.

  • Posted By: Reporter Guy @ 08/27/2008 7:16:32 PM

    Comment: Biden will be fine, as long as his brain doesn't explode again.

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 08/28/2008 10:49:21 AM

      Comment: McCain is also looking younger everyday

  • Posted By: pastor123 @ 08/27/2008 7:16:18 PM

    Comment: Obama is the nomineeI liked Hillary, Its too bad. I dont think Obama can win, Too bad 4 more years of bush. You can see George Bushes DUI record, and I think McCane even has a DUI? Here is the link http://www.duihelpguide.com

    • Posted By: barblze @ 08/28/2008 6:49:15 PM

      Comment: Another idiot raises its ugly head.

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 08/28/2008 10:51:32 AM

      Comment: Yes we can...get it?

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 08/28/2008 7:32:43 AM

      Comment: OBAMA'S GOT A COCAINE AND SINCLAIR RECORD GO TO NO QUARTER U.S.A

      • Posted By: barblze @ 08/28/2008 7:06:55 PM

        Comment: And what is your drug of choice...meth

 
 
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