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  • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 08/29/2008 10:12:22 AM

    Mr. Fineman: Yes, it was a historic day for many to see Obama elevated to the Dem nominee. But, once again, we are mowed over by the media blitz of identity politics...of race and gender before anything else. And, one again, the false image of the Democratic Party being the only party of Diversity. Tell that to Colin Powell, Condelesa Rice, and the many, many other folks of all colors and ethnicities, and different genders that have or are currently serving under a Republican administration. This issue is a red-herring, proprogated for pure political reasons by the Dems, but unfortunately, so too by too many of the media. It's a sad joke that we are forced time and time again to listen to a myth that only serves to further divide our country. Just look at the posts on this blog that spew ridiculous statements such as Republicans don't care about women, or black people. We certainly all can and should complain about Politicians looking out for only their own butts at our expense, but the notion that only the Dems are looking out for diversity and "the little guy" is utter nonsense.

    • Posted By: ludicrous @ 09/02/2008 11:01:11 PM

      Race first. Gender laughed at.

    • Posted By: denmill @ 08/29/2008 10:46:22 AM

      Ok Mr. Fineman, we all will remember this historic day when a black man was the nominee for his party. Now we need to move on. We are not going to elect Barack Hussein Obama president just because he is black. Is being black a new qualification to the presidency of the USA? The answer is NO. s So let's stop play favoritism, lets be real journalists and stop conning the American people into voting for an unqualified man just because of his race. Let's stop playing the race card and the poor people against the richs card. This is America, we all wants to be succesful and we are not envious of people who works hard to make the American dream. This is not Cuba, China or communist Russia where we take form the oneswho work hard and give it to the lazy ones. We do not hate people just because their are richs. We are not talking grassroot liberatyion church concept here. Only in America that Bill Gates can be billionaire by working hard and starting from nothing. Do I hates Bill gates because he is rich certainely not. He inspires me into trying to be the best that I can be. The idea of denigrating beople just because he or she has money is a dangerous concept whose root is from communism. We certeinly needs change in the US. But is Barack Hussein Obama is the change that we need. The answer is categorically NO! We do not need a Hugo Chavez in the US. We do not need a class warfare in the US. This rethoric is very dangerous and will lead to the fall of the US. However, you leftist liberals in the media want the fall of America. You want a new world order in whcih there is no America. You are not American citizen but rather Citizens of the World, the new World. I am black and I will not be voting for Obama because as a patriotic American woman and as a nationalist, I put my country first, before any race, gender, age or creed. I want the best more qualified person to be the commander in chief and this person is not Obama. As a true American, I do not trust Barack Obama's judment due to his questionable association. I want to see if Obama is a legitimate American, but Obama does not want to release his birth certificate. You see, I cannot vote for a communist like Obama in spite of him being a black man with mixed heritage just like my 14 years old son.

  • Posted By: Dare270 @ 08/29/2008 11:34:35 AM

    What a great day for America, and the world. That convention was more exciting than the superbowl and the final four put together.
    It is going to be so nice to have a president who actually understands the problems with America and how to fix them. Our country will be on the fast track to recovery from the Bush 8 year fiasco that is sending this country on a downward spiral to destruction.
    I cannot believe people are actually thinking of voting for McBush, you like high gas prices and soaring inflation, our economy going to hell, us losing our power in the international global politics, and a government overtaken with right wing conservatives who only look out for the wealthy.

    No more McBush 08

    • Posted By: jh35180 @ 08/29/2008 5:25:20 PM

      If you think that the Dem Convention is more exciting than the Super Bowl or the Final Four then you my friend need to get out and get a life.

      • Posted By: ludicrous @ 09/02/2008 10:59:09 PM

        haha true.

      • Posted By: tonytrotter @ 09/02/2008 3:11:56 PM

        Enter Your CommentMy goodness but isn't it exciting to hear that peoplke are once again GETTING EXCITED about something as important to ALL our lives as who will be in charge of this country. Last time I checked, freakin' football games had zero to do with putting food in my mouth or putting a roof over my head.

  • Posted By: Phil08 @ 08/29/2008 11:53:51 AM

    LAST 8 YEARS OF LIBERAL LOON PRO-PAGAN-DA, IS NOW FADING AWAY AND SEEN FOR WHAT IT IS. IT IS NOW THE NOOSE THAT WILL HANG THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/29/2008 12:16:16 PM

      If McCain is so great, why is it that the GOP never picked him in 26 years as their nominee?

      He's their second or third choice, representing the dregs of their party's talent - they have no more talent to offer, and Sarah Palin is a risky choice. Very risky. She has never even set foot out of the USA, so ZERO foreign policy experience. She has five kids, one with down's syndrome, so her true interests may be compromised and rightfully so. She is scary in that if she became our President, she has nothing to qualify her and she is only there to get drilling in ANWR. That is her sole purpose, and McCain's sole interest in putting her as his VP. Plus she appeals to the Christian geeks among our population (some of them, not all). She won't be for women's rights - she's just window dressing for the GOP who have no good candidates to offer to the American people but the DREGS of the barrel.

      • Posted By: ludicrous @ 09/02/2008 10:58:45 PM

        no trouble:

        "She has five kids, one with down's syndrome, so her true interests may be compromised and rightfully so.'

        What cave did you crawl out of? The same on Alter did?

      • Posted By: jh35180 @ 08/29/2008 5:23:00 PM

        Notrouble. To even make an issue out of Palin's child with Down's Syndrome shows what a simpleton that you really are. As far as risky, Obama himself is about as risky as you can get. Example: 57 states, taking an asthmatic to a hospital and hook him up to a breathalizer (this is good if you are drunk but not when you have problems breathing). Talking to rogue dictators with no preconditions. Having no energy plan other than airing up your tires. Acting embarased about Americans when they go to Europe and all they can say is "merci bocoups" when I am not sure that Obama can speak a foreign language shows that Obama is not fit to lead.

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/29/2008 12:12:34 PM

    You think McCain's choice of Palin will focus on women's issues? Haha. that's a huge laugh.

    Here is what someone wrote in comments on the Washington Post website today:

    Sarah Palin is in no way, shape or form anything of the stature and experience of Hillary Clinton. Most of her supporters will gladly vote for the Obama-Biden ticket. A formidable team, with complementary skills and capabilities, who inspire courage, optimism and respect around the world.

    Contrast that with a 72-year-old man whose health is not robust, coupled with a 44-year old church lady with five kids and ZERO overseas travel, no foreign policy credentials. Guess who will be calling all the shots? McCain!

    We will be the laughing stock among our enemies - easy target for picking off our president and allowing a totally shallow, inexperienced church lady to become our President.

    All for the sake of the Religious Right and the option to drill in Alaska. Once again, the GOP putting us in jeopardy with a misjudged choice and greed to appease the major oil companies.
    _________________

    McCain-Palin will be a disaster. Nobody in their right minds will vote for an aging President coupled with a token female who's only there to allow drilling in ANWR. She won't champion equal pay for equal work, women's rights or anything remotely connected to Hillary Clinton's platform/interests.

    She will be another Church Lady. Where is Dana Carvey? He did such a good job on Bush Sr.

    • Posted By: howiefineman @ 09/02/2008 6:45:24 PM

      Washington Post?

      "Palin is in no way, shape or form anything of the stature and experience of Hillary Clinton"

      Check the back issues when they wrote that Sen Clinton had no experience and was basically Bill's first lady wife. They would bash whatever female and whatever person opposes Obama. And how credible is a rag that writes: "44 year old church lady" and never mentions the word Governor? Does the Washington Post think articles such as this: "inspire courage, optimism and respect around the world"? And what of the person quoting it?

      • Posted By: ludicrous @ 09/02/2008 10:57:20 PM

        Yeah and the first thing they said about her when discussing VP was her experience.

    • Posted By: jh35180 @ 08/29/2008 5:14:51 PM

      Notrouble. I think that you are stretching it quite a bit regarding McCain's health problems. The last that I heard is that McCain was given a clean bill of health. He hasn't had any problems with melanoma as of late so you might want to be a little more factual. As far as age, Biden is no spring chicken himself, so don't make McCain's age an issue. Also, I haven't heard but has your guy Obama quit smoking yet? I hope that he has because that is also a big health risk. As far as being inspiring, Obama is only inspirational to Obamists. Many Americans are finding out that Obama is just a typical political hack who sounds good with teleprompters all around him. Yet when he answers questions we get good answers: 57 states, taking an asthmatic to a breathalizer. Obama did make these references

  • Posted By: Dare270 @ 08/29/2008 12:18:27 PM

    The most insignificant day in American politics history, McBush's announcement of his V.P. pick, soon to be outdone only by the bore fest which is the republican convention. N
    No wonder Schwarztenagger is skipping the convention. Who would want to hang with a bunch of idiots who don't know the first thing about politics and what is right for America.

    No more McBush 08

    • Posted By: ludicrous @ 09/02/2008 10:56:28 PM

      So insignificant that you keep posting on it?

    • Posted By: jh35180 @ 08/29/2008 5:06:16 PM

      Dare270. A bunch of idiots. It sems to me that you would fit in well with a bunch of idiots.

  • Posted By: Dare270 @ 08/29/2008 3:54:32 PM

    Obama is going to go down as the greatest president in the United States history. America is so sick of the right wing conservative idiots who have destroyed this country. They are being voted out of congress and out of the white house.
    We need change. It is dispicable how low we have fallen in the international community and idiots like the happyamerican(10000000000 to 1 says he is a bitter right wing conservative) think that being liked and a person who can actually use diplomacy instead of expensive invasions of other countries and try to permanently occupy them.

    Eight is enough
    No more McBush 08

    • Posted By: jh35180 @ 08/29/2008 5:01:30 PM

      Dare270. I think that you are stretching Obama's greatness just a tad. Come in out of the sun and relax. As far as America being destroyed it hasn't been. Sure we have several problems. However, the economy is showing some signs of turning around. Incidentally, taxation as Obama has advocated earlier in the year is not the way to fix an ailing economy anyhow. As far as change, it seems that Obama still likes to be cryptic in what this change is going to be. Finally, why should we suck up to the international community. I frankly don't care what the European Community thinks. In many poor countries in sub Saharan Africa, people have great respect for America. Obama and pacifism is not the answer.

      • Posted By: ludicrous @ 09/02/2008 10:55:42 PM

        It's most important what those bitter gun totin' Bible quotin' white people who have antipathy toward those not like them (Harvard speak for racists) think. He doesn't seem to care...it's easier to call them racists then stump in Appalachia. It's because they can tell a fraud when they see one. Without these folks and Sen Clinton supporters Obama will never be president...on the moon or otherwise.

    • Posted By: Etta Mae @ 09/02/2008 6:57:40 PM

      "Obama is going to go down as the greatest president in the United States history"

      Did he win the presidency in Colorado?

  • Posted By: teddyo @ 08/29/2008 5:37:59 PM

    That was the best event of any kind I have ever been to. When I began to think on his speech tears run down my cheek.

    • Posted By: ludicrous @ 09/02/2008 10:51:55 PM

      I'm sorry you have led such a sheltered life.

  • Posted By: John Wade @ 09/02/2008 3:19:47 PM

    The Best Candidate

    True, Obama???s nomination is historical. It appears the country, and the Democrats in particular, were ready to nominate a black man, and that may be the essence and the allure of the Obama candidacy. Sen. Obama is a marvelous speaker, but his experience is thin and he has almost no record to speak of. He does not have a distinguished legislative record in the US or the Ill Senates. Moreover, he has taken highly controversial positions on the ???Born Alive??? legislation, proposing care be withheld from infants born alive of botched abortions, a practice rejected by both the US and Ill governments subsequently. Obama has close associations with racist minister Rev. Wright, terrorist and Pentagon bomber William Ayers, and convicted criminal Tony Rezko. Clearly, Barack Obama is not qualified by experience or judgment to be President. Let???s hope history making does not overcome rational thought.

    John Wade
    www.honestjohnwade.com

    • Posted By: ludicrous @ 09/02/2008 10:51:01 PM

      The Democratic Party however was not ready to nominate the most qualified candidate because she is a woman. And Obama voted against the wishes of the Illinois Chapter of NOW. He doesn't have a 100% voting record. In fact, he prefers "present". And if you're interested all his legislation as an Illinois senator came in his last year courtesy of Emil Jones. His son is going to be an absolute disaster but the Daley Machine sanctions nepotism.

  • Posted By: Etta Mae @ 09/02/2008 6:54:44 PM

    Mr Fineman--

    A Day for the History Books

    Senator Clinton's nomination is the social equivalent of landing a woman on the moon.

    • Posted By: ludicrous @ 09/02/2008 10:37:31 PM

      Maybe Mars in the year 3000. Can you imagine Sen Clinton as these mancrusher's boss? Can you say shrinkage?

  • Posted By: ludicrous @ 09/02/2008 10:34:53 PM

    FINEWOMAN:

    You do your best to not to take sides? We've read your best journalism? How much more one-sided can you get? And it's not just that - it's the fact you felt it necessary to say and the fact that you make yourself to believe it. You are the one out of all the Newsweek mancrushers who has seen into barry's messiah complex and admitted to it. Have you no integrity?

  • Posted By: Bydand @ 08/29/2008 12:22:37 AM

    So my question is: How does a teacher of black history with very limited time in congress suddenly have all the answers to solve America's problems? Are people not thinking for themselves? Is there no person who has traveled the world and been in business available to be President?

    • Posted By: joe_mama @ 08/29/2008 6:17:33 AM

      Which "teacher of black history" are you talking about?

      Obama, the CONTSTITUTIONAL LAW PROFESSOR?

      or McCain, the....well you know

      JM

      • Posted By: howiefineman @ 09/02/2008 6:49:31 PM

        He was not a professor...he was a lecturer...very different.

  • Posted By: howiefineman @ 09/02/2008 6:34:26 PM

    HOWARD FINEMAN'S BEST QUOTE YET:

    "If you read me on a regular basis, you know that I do my best not to take sides."

    How can you write that and look in your children's eyes? We read your blog. We can document your not at all subtle taking sides. Is this really the best you can do? How about a little disclosure that you've been traveling with the Obama camp -- even on his world tour? It's comments like your that give our website so much traffic. Thanks for not making me read the whole blog. Five paragraphs in was enough. Keep up the good work!

    ps. Walter Cronkite would never have had to stipulate: "I do my best not to take sides". He would have let his words speak for him. And yours have spoken loud and clear: I love Obama and I am not man enough, journalist enough, ethical enough to write a disclaimer. Bias is bas enough...not admitting to it is worse.

  • Posted By: ledball @ 08/29/2008 10:00:01 AM

    DENMILL......another avid listener and regurgitator (look it up moron) of Right -Wing hate speech. This piece of crap was born in the wrong century and the wrong country. His bile sounded better in the original German.

    • Posted By: tonytrotter @ 09/02/2008 3:14:34 PM

      Well this was very enlightening and well thought out. . . . . Idiot!

    • Posted By: denmill @ 08/29/2008 10:14:33 AM

      The truth hurts, inst it?

      • Posted By: ledball @ 08/29/2008 10:25:54 AM

        .The amount of Right Wing crap you pull out of your ass is amazing. I???ll bet you can drive a Mack truck into your gaping sphincter and still have room to insert your pinhead.

        • Posted By: tired and old @ 08/29/2008 10:38:53 AM

          YOU MAY HAVE LEADBALLS ; BUT, WHY ARE YOU SO MAD ?

          • Posted By: ledball @ 08/29/2008 11:03:28 AM

            Because you Right-Wing HannityLimbaughOreilly brainwashed trolls are hate filled morons, and are being played for fools by a Republican Party that doesn???t give a damn about you or anyone one else except the real ???Elites??? the ones with all the money and power.

            • Posted By: tired and old @ 08/29/2008 11:42:05 AM

              WRONG ON ALL COUNTS ! LEADBALLS.

              RIGHT WING ------------- NOT !

              LIMBERGER BRAINWASHED ----------- NOT !

              SUPER NATURAL TROLL ----------------- ONLY IN YOUR MIND ! LEAD BALLS.

              MORON ------------------- MAYBE YOUR I Q IS THAT LOW --- RETARD .

              LEADBALLS YOU SEEM HATE FILLED ------ YOUR BALLS HURT THAT MUCH ?

  • Posted By: Phil08 @ 08/29/2008 11:51:09 AM

    MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS A REPUBLICAN


    I had a "DREAM (nightmare)" of what the Country might be under Obama.

    There will be a new national Anthem to include Black nationalism.
    Maybe a new Flag, new coins, currency.
    All Americans travelling overseas, will be required to know a second
    language before they are allowed to board the plane. Pledges to the
    Flag is banned as it may offend certain religion like Islam.

    CNN and MSNBC will play 24 hours of only positive news on Obama. Fox
    news is shut down. No criticism allowed.
    Patriotism, Pin Wearing and waving the American Flag will be a thing
    of the Past. Obama surrenders the sovereignty of this country to the
    U.N. Obama will visit Iran, Cuba, North Korea etc to beg their
    forgiveness for the so called crimes that past US Administration
    carried out.
    J Wright, Farakahan, Ayers,the Chicago mob, all will have high
    important post advising Obama and policy matters must get their seal
    of approval.
    Billions and Trillions of our Tax money will be given to third world
    countries to buy their love and forgiveness for us. Remember, in
    Obama vision,it is important for the World to Love us.



    Oil will be so, so short in supply that there will be more cyclist on
    the roads than cars. USA will become China of the 1980's.
    Taxes, will be so high that all business will have closed and the
    only job available will be to those who carry a Obama Party Card.
    All across, America, people will be forced once a month to attend
    rallies at Stadium singing praises and hearing sermons from KING
    OBAMA.
    School children are forced to read both his books and call Obama
    "Dear Leader"
    People who do not faint at his rallies are charged with the crime of
    not being a Obamots.

    This nation will turn backward into, prehistoric mode with no Coal
    plants, no nuclear plants, no oils rigs etc as it sickens Americans
    and especially the World. Remember,they need to love us.

    Thank god I woke up and broke into a cold sweat. it dawned on me, why
    on earth would anyone consider voting for Obama. If he was not
    affiliated with any Party, would anyone really vote for him based on
    his experience, his friendship with J Wright, sat thru this militant
    Black theologian Church, with Black value system for 20 years, Ayers,
    Rezko etc. Obama claims to be a Christian, yet never showed when he
    was baptised, or even has a Christian name. Why would he still be
    want to be known by his Muslim name?

    Don't forget China is placing 25,000 automobiles onto their streets EACH DAY EVERY WEEK PER MONTH YEARLY. Now, how does that equate to the Global Warming Propaganda and Green Solutions?


    http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaPolitics.htm

    JKumar

    • Posted By: tonytrotter @ 09/02/2008 3:09:02 PM

      OMG . . . This doesn't even rate a response except to say . . . .Idiot!

  • Posted By: CalexanderJ @ 08/29/2008 6:51:41 PM

    Great article. One minor point, you mentioned hte Democrats playing identity politics, let's not completely let republican off the hook. They've been known to be just as devisive. All in all though this country has made great progress.

  • Posted By: y.sister @ 08/29/2008 5:44:23 PM

    I did not see race as the intended theme in the program that led up to Obama???s speech. What I did see was a review of some of the events that made last night possible for Barack Obama.

    I believe his premise center around the thought that this country needed to be reminded of some of the struggles of the past before it could gain the confidence to trend new ground. There are many who feel that Omba???s journey is an unobtainable dream, He had to remind everyone that the same thing was said of the Civil Rights Movement and going to the moon.

    If this country can rise above the old rhetoric that was meant to keep us divided, I believe the possibilities for ending the war, economic growth and a positive standing among other nations under an Obama & Biden administration are endless.

  • Posted By: y.sister @ 08/29/2008 5:44:04 PM

    I did not see race as the intended theme in the program that led up to Obama???s speech. What I did see was a review of some of the events that made last night possible for Barack Obama.

    I believe his premise center around the thought that this country needed to be reminded of some of the struggles of the past before it could gain the confidence to trend new ground. There are many who feel that Omba???s journey is an unobtainable dream, He had to remind everyone that the same thing was said of the Civil Rights Movement and going to the moon.

    If this country can rise above the old rhetoric that was meant to keep us divided, I believe the possibilities for ending the war, economic growth and a positive standing among other nations under an Obama & Biden administration are endless.

  • Posted By: NO OOOOOOOOO @ 08/29/2008 8:39:29 AM

    Uh oh...Obama's in trouble yet again...if McCain selects a woman...and it's looking like he will...it's all but over. That'll teach you to treat Hillary the way you did. Good move! Bye bye POTUS.

    • Posted By: teddyo @ 08/29/2008 8:58:29 AM

      McCain may pick a women to get Hillary hurting followers. Common knowledge... Republicans don't care too much about women. But true Dem. Women will not fall for that head fake. And I know Republicans whole thing this year is ready to lead. She is a 44 year old women who is not known. McCain looks pretty sick and may not make it his full term. So saying that. Should we trust her as a potential Pres.

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/29/2008 5:05:40 PM

        Then explain this.


        Record Number of Women Graduate With Degrees 2003-2008

        www.edu.gov

        And of these,a record number of women held engineering degrees,a record number of women graduated from the nations military academies, and a record number of African-American women held Doctorates. If they ''do not care too much for women''then they are doing a lousy job of it.

      • Posted By: NO OOOOOOOOO @ 08/29/2008 9:04:32 AM

        "Should we trust her as a potential Pres."? Are you kidding me? Surely you jest. She has easily as much, if not more, experience than Obama. She doesn't have questionable alliances or any nasty rumors out there swirling about her. By all accounts, she is a decent, loving wife, mother and human being. I do not trust Obama as a potential POTUS and I am most definitely not alone in that. Before you even start, don't call me a racist. That old line is getting old. Also, don't call me a Republican...I'm not that either.

        • Posted By: NO OOOOOOOOO @ 08/29/2008 9:22:18 AM

          Everything else aside, I watched with fascination and pride as Obama was officially nomiinated and accepted the nomination as the first African American POTUS. It was, indeed, an historic moment and one that every American should feel pride about...finally.

          • Posted By: tired and old @ 08/29/2008 10:49:04 AM

            CAN I SUGGEST THAT HILLARY CLINTON CHANGE POSITIONS AND REQUEST FROM JOHN MC SAME THE REPULICAN VP SPOT.

            JOHN MC SAME IS TOO OLD TO WAIT AGAIN FOR THE CHANCE TO BE PRESIDENT AND WITCH HILLARY CAN SHOW JUST HOW BAD SHE REALLY WANTS TO BE IN WHITE HOUSE.

            CLINTON LOYALISTS WILL FOLLOW THEIR LEADER THROUGH THE GATES OF H E L L .

            DEMOCRATS WILL FOLLOW THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND NOT THEIR WICKED WITCH.

            • Posted By: NO OOOOOOOOO @ 08/29/2008 11:02:44 AM

              T&O...I really think you should listen to what you're saying...it is OBAMA followers who will follow him through the gates of hell...NOTHING ELSE MATTERS TO THEM!

              • Posted By: tired and old @ 08/29/2008 11:46:03 AM

                YOUR RIGHT AND I KNEW IT WHEN I WROTE IT.

                WICKED WITCH ON ANY TICKET IS BAD.

            • Posted By: max in fl @ 08/29/2008 11:36:49 AM

              You're really not helping.

  • Posted By: Kuksha @ 08/29/2008 1:49:34 PM

    War in Georgia made on tax money USA - good stimulus to choose McCain. It is very suspicious! Very much in time!

    • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 08/29/2008 3:15:25 PM

      suspiciouse PUTIN suggests USA "caused" this invasion... but Putin, like other foriegn enamies, wants Obama to win the election! So do more than a few well know domestic terrorists, too.

  • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 08/29/2008 3:10:02 PM

    The wheels have came off Obama/bidens campaign! two far lefties and Liberals do not alliegn with the majority in the USA!
    While Palin is conservative, McCain is a moderate and this ticket does not depend on the Americans Suck First campaign which is a very old theme with the DNC and Liberals!
    Palin has a good marriage! Her husband is a hunter and fisherman! A better set of hobbies than cigars and the broad jump.
    Palin has class!

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