McCain makes history with choice of running mate

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  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 08/29/2008 12:56:35 PM

    John McCain just made a gutsy and smart move with his pick for vice president; not gutsy because it was a woman but rather gutsy because it was an unknown and smart because it was a woman. He has been trying to cultivate those Clinton supporters not yet reconciled with Obama and he intends for this move to help him there and with women in general. He has been getting static from his extremely conservative base and Gov Sarah Palin, being a strong conservative advocate, could appease them. Once again the Republicans have made a very aggressive move to manipulate voters??? opinions based on emotions, while keeping their positions on the issues out of scrutiny. If the voters are once again, like in 2000 and 2004, swayed based on appeals to their emotions, prejudices and biases or by any single issue and neglect putting full consideration and weight on all of the issues, we could end up with four more years of nothing but more of the same. When you look around at the economy, the deficit, the jobs, the cost of medical, the War in Iraq, the needs in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the progressive decline experienced in all of these things and everything else and the embarrassing and costly gross dishonesty of our government, I don???t know how the issues can be ignored, yet it has happened before. After Obama???s great speech last night and the impressive Democratic convention, the Democrats and Obama, with regard to all of the issues and their plans and positions, are well known. We also know McCain and the Republican???s plans as we can look at the last eight years and at everything McCain says, which strongly commits to just more of the same. Imagine more of the same. This country really just can???t take more of the same and voting for John McCain-Sarah Palin, for whatever reason, just guarantees more of the same!

  • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 08/29/2008 12:54:45 PM

    This is McCain after Obama's speech last night.

    WHAT!? WHO!? HURRY!? GIVE ME SOMEBODY!? ANYBODY!? HEY YOU OVER IN THE CORNER EATING THE ALASKAN FLOUNDER COME ERE, YOU'RE MY VP! DO WHAT I SAY WHEN I SAY AND HOW I SAY! BE MY YES WOMAN! GOT A RESUME! HURRY! HURRY! OH MAN I'M FINISHED! SURROUNDED BY A BUNCH OF ELEPHANTS EATING PORK!

  • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 12:53:32 PM

    can not imagine how Ms. Clinton feels about this. She had all that experience, calm, anger and was feared - and a husband who could lead, and the beauty queen might be Prez if the old man dies? BTW Happy Birthday Mr. McCain for 72. But I digress. No way. Can't happen. McCain can not win. When there is a first female president it should be Ms. Clinton.

  • Posted By: griffin1 @ 08/29/2008 12:50:24 PM

    Palin WHO?
    Why would McCain use this woman as a pawn. At least Obama went through the mud and fought long and hard with Clinton, she helped him become a stronger candidate I will agree to that. He has a back ground of fighting for working families.

    Palin WHO? She doesn't like the idea of a woman's right to choose is this true. I can see now we will finally see a change in our government because the McCain-Palin ticket is very funny. As a woman I say to you McCain SHAME ON YOU....

  • Posted By: griffin1 @ 08/29/2008 12:41:52 PM

    McCain don't try to woo us women with a woman on your ticket what a desperate move. It's desperate because as some of us watched the speech from Obama it was history, it gives middle class families a since of hope that someone is going to try to make it right. No Obama is not perfect but with these last eight years, McCain can't tell me nothing. This election is too important to ignore.

    The truth is McCain has made it clear he will continue the tax breaks for the weathy and for the lobbyist, women like there rights to choose, McCain is against everything we work so hard for. Another 4 years of Bush policies would be a disgrace to our Country

  • Posted By: mrzoid @ 08/29/2008 11:14:28 AM

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh my god! I just heard the collective heads of Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh implode upon themselves! My only conclusion is that John McCain is in all reality insane. He just assasinated the only attack on Barack Obama that carried some weight. A woman from Alaska, with less than half a term as Gov. of the most removed states of the union, who is younger and less educated than Obama; thats the face of "experience" in order to be Commander in Chief?!! The whole party is just seething underneath those grim smiles and hurried tag lines they have to spit out like poison from their mouths; because they know, as well as you or i, no matter what anyone wants to claim, John McCain just torched the republican party to the ground today.

    • Posted By: careerdaytrader @ 08/29/2008 11:42:33 AM

      I disagree. He is all for CHANGE and has always been. He's also always been a Maverick and this pick further proves that, something all voters want. He needed somebody anti abortion which a woman is clearly (she just had a child with Down Syndrome vs having an abortion, she has TRUE morals). She is also fiscally conservative and has as much experience as Obama!

      Hillary supporters are FLOCKING to Mc Cain as we speak. A man who just doesn't SAY HE's FOR WOMEN like Obama does, Mc Cain is a man of ACTION who shows us he's for women!

      Great job Mc Cain!

      • Posted By: Saltydog_0 @ 08/29/2008 12:39:07 PM

        careerdaytrader, your words absolutely REEK of desperation. If you have any respect for women you'll realize they can't be led like dogs because you waive a piece of cheese under their noses. Hillary supporters are going to be outraged that McCain thinks he believes this little girl from Alaska is in any way comparable to their hero.

        McCain's choice can be summed up in one word: BACKLASH. He will accomplish exactly the opposite of what he intended. In trying to show that he's progressive, he's demonstrated how backwards his think is. In attempting to demonstrate his respect for women, he' sinsulted them by showing he values youth and beauty over experience and ability. I thinking he was acting as an agent of change, he showed that he's more of an old white guy misogynist than we ever expected.

        Honestly, I never believed the political spin from Democrats that McCain was out of touch with America due to age and wealth. Well, in one fell swoop, McCain himself convinced me of the truth of his opponents statements. What a colossal blunder!

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 12:08:18 PM

        I'd assume they're running away from the Evangelical, war-lover, pro-life, not-nearly-as expeienced as Ms. Clinton, newpaper person.

    • Posted By: Donna1000 @ 08/29/2008 11:37:45 AM

      You wish. Sarah Palin has more executive experience than Obambi and she has led a normal, mainstream life. It appears that she really did enter politics to serve and to reform rather than for self aggrandizement. Sarah Palin, and her blue collar husband, are people that millions of Americans can identify with. I'm very excited by this choice. She just might be change that I can beleive in.

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 11:57:03 AM

        Well yeah, if extortion and illegal firing is normal.

        • Posted By: Donna1000 @ 08/29/2008 12:04:18 PM

          Huh? What is not normal is hanging out with people who try to blow up the Capitol building, who preach hate, and who give you sweetheart real estate deals to buy your political favor.

          • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 12:11:20 PM

            The difference is like this campaign, you're telling lies, and I'm not. But that's been par for the course. Every thing you say is written on some extremist right-wing he's a Muslim toilet paper, and disproved 1000 times. What I say is public, documented and factual. Unlike the policies of the last eight years.

  • Posted By: Debunked! @ 08/29/2008 12:20:14 PM

    Why didn't he pick Romney! McCain talk about Obama's non experience and he picks someone whose resume is almost as thin as Obamas! Obama talk about change and McCain being in politics for 26 yrs and he picks someone who has been in the senate longer than McCain!

    Sorry, McCain but your choice IS NOT sitting well AT ALL! I am not voting for the Dems and now I think McCain lost my vote. I feel like I have no where to go!

    This election is becoming a disgrace and BOTH McCain and Obama need to be overthrown!

    Looking like I am going to sit this one out. No matter which candidate wins, this country is in TROUBLE!

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 12:33:58 PM

      Absolutely correct, and she's a gun, life, war person.

  • Posted By: Saltydog_0 @ 08/29/2008 11:58:17 AM

    OK McCain. You want a woman VP. I get it. Hillary lost. You think women are catty and bitter. You need a gimmick. Blah blah blah...

    But Palin? Seriously? She was a mayor of Podunk Alaska a couple years ago! Alaska has 3 electoral votes, count em, 3! I'm sure Palin is a decent person, but she's about to become a national joke. It may seem that she's taking a huge step upward in her career, but in a year she'll realize it's better to be respected on the small stage than lampooned on the national.

    What the hell McCain?! If gender is your foremost qualification for VP, couldn't you have found someone that America will take seriously. How bout' Kay Bailey Hutchison? She was a state congresswoman, a state treasurer and, oh yeah, a United States senator for 15 years. That's YEARS McCain! Not MONTHS! And by the way, Texas has 34 electoral votes you dolt. Even if Texas is already in the bag for the Republicans, their influence with other states amounts to more than 3 votes!

    What experince in Palin's past made her the best choice senator? Her track record in beauty contests?! Well, Hutchison was a cheerleader an The University of Texas! That's right! in addition to a law degree , UT gave her a pair of pom-poms. Surely that counts for somethin!

    Good lord! What a foolish move. Surely you won't be able to use your "put America first" line with a straight face. With your most important hiring decision; the one that affects Americans to the highest degree, you chose a gimmick play. You chose to put style over substance. You played us for fools. Well, we'll see who's the fool Senator. You just lost the race. Not because your choice says anything about Palin, but because it says a great deal about you. In attempting a ploy to convince Americans that you are as hip and cool as your opponent, you succeeded in proving the exact opposite. Nothing shows how "uncool" a person is as when they try to act cool when they're not. You should have tried to BEAT Obama, senator; instead of trying to BE Obama.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 12:04:29 PM

      But she has a journalism degree. So, she's media. But she was a sports reporter too. So, she's media. She was also was a beat reporter for her town of 6500, so she has big executive experience. But you are right, his choice says allot about him, not her. Just don't call her the C-word.

      • Posted By: Saltydog_0 @ 08/29/2008 12:16:14 PM

        Wouldn't hink of it AskPlus. I don't have anything against Palin as a person, just as a candidate. Actually I feel sorry for her. She should have turned McCain down out of self-respect if not principal. Oh well. I'm actually an Obama supporter, so I'm pretty excited with his choice; but that doesn't stop me from insulted by McCain playing me for a fool.

        And by the way, Hutchison was a legal and political correspondent for KPRC in Houston. You know, Houston, a CITY that has triple the population of the entire STATE of Alaska. Now that's media!

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 12:32:52 PM

          Here, here. I was hoping Mr. McCain would not call her the C-word though. Especially in public. My problem is that he keeps saying that the inexperienced should not be a heartbeat away - in the "not ready" category, then he goes and teams up with a beauty queen.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 08/29/2008 12:07:45 PM

    Alaska Governor Sarah Palin and John McCain understand that Obama and the Democrats would never consider government loan guarantees for a sure thing that will produce energy for the American gas tank. Democrat loan guarantees and earmarks are only reserved for off the wall improbable future technologies such as hydrogen power that offer no short term chance of solution for our energy problems. Democratic disdain for energy production by US companies is evident with the current ownership of former US energy companies. Is it any surprise that the jewell Arco Oil Company which owned 80 percent of our Alaska Oil Reserves was bought out by British Petroleum Corporation at the end of the second administration of Bill Clinton due to the hostile Democratic attitude toward energy companies. It is no accident that the largest US builder of nuclear power plants, Westinghouse Nuclear Power Construction Division was bought out by Toshiba Corporation of Japan. While 80 percent of France electricity is generated by nuclear power, only twenty percent in the US is generated due to the successful efforts of Democratic party to kill the US nuclear power industry. Significantly, nuclear power is not considered a mainstay of Democratic plans to address our energy crisis.There is also a worldwide shortage and backlog of orders for oil drilling platforms and oil drilling ships but US shipyards are not building these ships. Only one percent of the world's commercial ships are built in US shipyards. Hold your breath for the Democratic outcry and push for government help to US ship builders to build oil drilling ships in the US.

    • Posted By: lichtyke @ 08/29/2008 12:17:26 PM

      mccainsuporter, do you even have a CLUE what the topic for discussion is in this forum?

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 12:24:38 PM

        He does. But he's deflecting like you'll see plenty of in the coming weeks. Mr. McCain chose an unknown, while saying that unknowns should not run for office, or be a heartbeat away. But her son is shipping off to Iraq next week. Hopefully he won't be unfortunate enough to have to go 4 to 5 times.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 12:17:34 PM

      So what you're saying is now we have two oil people instead of one? What does her husband do? On what level? You should find out first. She took down two oil barons, yes. they were standing in her way. She did raise taxes on big oil, yes - on a compromise ignited from the last Governor.

  • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 12:05:45 PM

    But she has a journalism degree. So, she's media. But she was a sports reporter too. So, she's media. She was also was a beat reporter for her town of 6500, so she has big executive experience. But you are right, his choice says allot about him, not her. Just don't call her the C-word.

  • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 11:49:05 AM

    Ms. Palin stands for every thing Ms. Clinton did not stand for - and is under investigation.
    Her 'experience' is two-years in a very large, small state, and the bulldogs don't bite back.
    Her resume reads like this:

    Fellowship of Christian Athletes - so she is Evangelical.
    Palin finished second in the Miss Alaska beauty pageant - so she is a celebrity liike Paris Hilton.
    National Rifle Association - so she can shoot an AK-47
    She admits that she used marijuana when it was legal in Alaska, but says that she did not like it. So, she may try to legalize it for those who do.
    Palin is strongly pro-life, and belongs to Feminists for Life - so look out.
    She opposes same-sex marriage - and will definately lose that vote.
    And, Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

    But she did fight big oil.

    • Posted By: neocon @ 08/29/2008 12:02:43 PM

      You just sold me! I',m voting McCain/Palin!!!

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 12:05:25 PM

        That is great news. You guys stay over there.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 08/29/2008 12:03:04 PM

    Barack Obama complained at his acceptance speech in Denver about oil company tax breaks and praised the alleged jobs created under the administration of Bill Clinton.
    The following story should shed light on Obama???s praise of the economic policies of Bill Clinton.
    While camping and attending a bluegrass music festival, I took a tour of Comanche Peak Power Plant, the last nuclear power plant built in the United States. The plant is unobtrusive and is at perfect harmony with its environment. It is located near Glen Rose Texas a beautiful area that has bluegrass band festivals in the summer. It is a wonderful scenic country area and home to Dinosaur World and a state park. There are dinosaur tracks from 100 million years ago along the riverbed that can be seen in the water due to erosion and some say that the tracks are heading in the direction of New York City. The Brazos River flows through the area and the place is an environmental heaven. There used to be an old green Sinclair Oil Company dinasour statue that stood at the park. Ironically most of the stations and assets of Sinclair Oil Company was bought by Arco Oil Company. Arco Oil Company was considered the jewell of all American oil companies for having explored and developed the Alaskan North Slope and at one time owning eighty percent of our proven Alaskan oil reserves. Arco Oil Company was subsequently bought out later by foreign owned British Petroleum during the second administration of Bill Clinton. The point of this comment is twofold. The long-term hostility of the Democratic Party leadership toward United States owned energy companies has led to the sale of United States oil companies to foreign interests and that nuclear power plants can even be located next to wonderful wildlife and park areas and make good unobtrusive neighbors. Arco Oil Company with its substantial Alaskan oil reserves should have bought out British Petroleum instead of the other way around. Comanche Peak in Glen Rose the last nuclear power plant built in the United States symbolizes the death of the American owned nuclear power industry and the decline of United States owned oil companies due to the hostile business environment created by Democratic Party leadership.
    Sinclair Oil Company and Arco Oil no longer exist, British Petroleum has replaced them under the second Democratic administration of Bill Clinton.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 08/29/2008 12:02:22 PM

    Democrats talk at the Denver convention about creating and keeping American jobs. Ironically the building that housed the largest research and development division of Arco Oil Company in Texas was sold by British Petroleum to Perot Systems and now serves as its headquarters. Perot Systems was founded by Ross Perot who previously created EDS Electronic Data Systems and who most importantly has been credited with throwing the 1992 Presidential election to Bill Clinton by drawing off many independent voters who would have voted Republican for George Bush senior. Perot Systems derives a significant amount of its business from state and federal contracts. A building that used to house American engineers, geologists, scientists, logistics people and ordinary employees who worked for an American owned oil company that strived to fill the gas tank for the average American now houses a company that focuses on giving computer support on state and the federal government social service contracts. This is the Democratic Party version of a success story. Outsourced government work under Bill Clinton replaces a former American owned world admired jewell of the oil industry that had provided gas for the American gas tank and many good American jobs for many years. So if you need reasonably price gas for your car, contact Bill Clinton and Perot Systems and ask them to give you a gallon of gas. This is the Democratic version of a success story, outsourced government work replacing a real company that produces a real needed product for the average American household.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 08/29/2008 11:56:34 AM

    Sarah Palin is a wonderful pick for vice President. Both John McCain and Alaska Governor Sarah Palin realize that the Democrats under the leadership of Barack Obama want to effectively give away in trust our offshore exclusive economic zone by standing in the way of any current offshore development. Under the 1982 United Nations Law of the Seas Convention the US has an exclusive economic zone of 200 nautical miles and mineral seabed rights up to 350 nautical miles extending along the Continental shelf. A nautical mile is 6080 feet so our exclusive economic zone extends about 240 miles and mineral seabed rights extend 420 miles. The US has the world's largest offshore exclusive economic zone totaling 4.4 million square miles. In comparison, the total land area of the United States is only 3.4 million square miles. On the East coast alone, if you drive from Key West Florida to Bangor Maine it is 2000 miles. Multiply the 2000 miles by mineral seabed rights extending out 420 miles results in a total of 840,000 square miles of ocean acreage. Because we have the world's largest offshore coastline which is twenty-eight percent greater than our land area, it only makes simple common sense that we exploit our offshore resources to achieve our energy independence.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 11:59:05 AM

      I wonder what the people in Alaska will say about tearing up their shores? Like Mr. Obama said - it's a stop-gap, not a solution.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 08/29/2008 11:55:21 AM

    I think Sarah Palin is a wonderful pick for vice President. She has the knowledge and experience to help attain John McCain goal of achieving energy independence for the United States. She also demostrates that longterm Democratic leadership hostility and policies toward United States owned energy companies have caused our current energy crisis. Her husband who works for British Petroleum should be working for the former American owned Arco Oil Company. Arco Oil Company developed and explored the Alaska North Slope and formerly owned eighty percent of our proven Alaskan reserves. With its substantial oil reserves Arco Oil Company should have bought British Petroleum instead of British Petroleum buying out Arco Oil Company during the second Bill Clinton administration.

  • Posted By: lichtyke @ 08/29/2008 11:31:26 AM

    It is a horrible pick. This is the person who is going to lead our country if something should happen to the 72 year old McCain? Does he think that Hillary supporters are going to rush to vote for a pro-life, conservative simply because she is a woman? They will be insulted. What color is the sky in John McCain's world?

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 11:53:52 AM

      He's counting on it.

  • Posted By: mjkoch @ 08/29/2008 11:32:30 AM

    This is a disgrace. This woman has less experience and brings less to the table than Dan Quayle did. To choose someone as your running mate with zero experience is absolutely frightening. Any independent voter who was leaning towards McCain needs to have their head examined if they vote for him now. With all the many qualified, experienced people McCain could have chosen he chose the least qualified individual to lead our nation.

    We are in a war in Iraq, a war with Islamic fundamentalists who want to destroy us, Iran is building a nuclear bomb, and our economy is in the tank and McCain chooses someone who has no experience to lead???? I hope Obama wins in a landslide.

    • Posted By: careerdaytrader @ 08/29/2008 11:38:28 AM

      I think what Mc Cain is trying to say is that if Obama voters don't care about experience but want CHANGE then he'll bring it. She has more experience than Obama does! That's what is SOO funny!

      Hillary voters will drift over and Obama loses in a tight race. Go Mc Cain!

      • Posted By: jpindenver @ 08/29/2008 11:47:21 AM

        Hillary supporters (the pro-choice, environmentally -charged, 55 & older crowd that want universal heathcare) are going to drift over to a pro-life 44 year old former beauty queen? I think you might be delusional. What it might do, however, is rescue the extreme Christian Right. That was the play, not Hillary people- they're not going to ignore Palin's positions based on her gender.

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 11:53:24 AM

          Mr. McCain's choice was about as good as - war.

  • Posted By: cowen123456 @ 08/29/2008 11:16:09 AM

    Hillary put 18 million cracks into the ceiling and John Mccain will break it wide open! That's change you can believe in! That's how deeds and actions speaks much louder then words. Mccain is aiming to shake up washington with this pick and I'm proud to be a supporter. Mccain 2008

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 11:29:12 AM

      And the trooper has a tape with evidence showing it was Ms. Palin who initially asked for his firing due to a custody battle with her sister - good luck. This is a legislative investigation, and she is claiming she had nothing to do with it. The content on the tape says otherwise:

      http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/images/sarah-palin-muck.jpg&imgrefurl=http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/sarah_palin/&h=277&w=200&sz=13&hl=en&start=14&sig2=cdRkifvse1prFyOk7ncDWQ&um=1&usg=__iL7kF9E5GLEyZzx-ABRimfSkB0Q=&tbnid=8qcff9jmshmGJM:&tbnh=114&tbnw=82&ei=Yhe4SKWOGp6msQOvkvyMAw&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSarah%2BPalin%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4WZPA_en___US252%26sa%3DN

      • Posted By: Donna1000 @ 08/29/2008 11:41:19 AM

        If the worst thing you can say against Sarah Palin is that she tried to protect her sister and/or her sister's children from an abusive father...that's not too bad, is it?

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/29/2008 11:51:14 AM

          Actually, she was the abusive one. that's why he wants custody.

    • Posted By: Young Hickory @ 08/29/2008 11:31:32 AM

      This is not new ground. Unfortunately Americans are notorious for have historical amnesia. If you remember, there has been a woman named Geraldine Ferraro who was nominated over 20 years ago for vice president. It is hilarious to watch Republicans patting themselves on the back for catching up to America circa 1984. If McCain can learn to use a computer they may catch up to the 1990s.

  • Posted By: Dare270 @ 08/29/2008 11:43:23 AM

    Oh no romeny what a suprise. It amazes me how all you right wing conservatives are wrong about everything yet continue to spew your ignorant statements.
    To think that America is going to vote in another 4 years of failed Bush policies is laughable, it's just as laughable to think that McBush was going to pick romeny.
    Can't wait till november to say "I told you so"

    No more McBush 08

  • Posted By: Donna1000 @ 08/29/2008 11:31:57 AM

    Thank goodness. Finally a normal person, who can understand the concerns of mainstream Americans, is on a Presidential ticket. I don't care if I disagree with some of Sarah Palin's positions, she seems to have a ton of common sense. Now that would be change for Washington D.C. that I can believe in. Bravo John McCain!

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