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  • Posted By: cerrojim @ 09/03/2008 12:16:56 AM

    My only questions are, if the McCain/Palin Neocons win, will we have to wear Brown shirts or Black shirts and will we have to greet each other with some kind of straight arm salute to keep from being arrested?

  • Posted By: expatincebu @ 09/02/2008 11:24:29 PM

    This article is nothing but lies. Stays clear of politics? The preacher of this church has said anyone who criticizes bush is evil and if you voted for Kerry you won't get into heaven. This woman and her church are far right xtian nut cases. She might as well be going to Bin Laden mosque! But leave it to the corporate owned media to white wash the whole thing. Tell me again about the liberal media? LOL, yeah right.

  • Posted By: icdchess @ 09/02/2008 4:42:17 PM

    First of all, I do not want the Vice President to be "a regular person" just like me. I want him/her to be a heck of a lot more knowledgeable, responsible, and mature.. Secondly, only in a piece of fiction would a presidential candidate have the opportunity to select a VP candidate from the brightest, most experienced, most responsible people in the country, and make the rash decision to select a 44 year old mother of 5 with no record of ever having made an important international decision in her life. Should the Republican nominee go on to win the election, I can only hope that his decision making in the Oval Office will show considerably more maturity of thought.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 09/02/2008 5:02:45 PM

      Obama has never "made an important international decision" either and he is older and is in the TOP of his ticket...so what is your point? The Obama ticket is UPSIDE DOWN and no one is questioning Obama.

      • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 09/02/2008 10:57:09 PM

        Thousands of mayors in small town USA can tout 'executive experience'. Are they capable of earning Columbia and Harvard degrees? Are they capable of being a senator? Are they capable of running an excellent presidential campaign?

        Alaska is not the envy of America. Palin has been governor for less than two years and already is under investigation. Not too smart to abuse her office.

      • Posted By: icdchess @ 09/02/2008 5:18:49 PM

        Here's Obama's resume on foreign affairs. Certainly, he is no Joe Biden, but he is also no Sarah Palin...
        Foreign Policy

        Obama's foreign policy experience includes graduating from Columbia University with a degree in political science with an emphasis on international relations. In the U.S. Senate Obama is unique among Senators in that he serves on three of the four Senate Committees dealing with foreign policy issues including the Foreign Relations; Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs; and Veterans' Affairs committees and is the Chair of the Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Relations which is responsible fore U.S. relations with European countries, the European Union, and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (i.e., NATO). When comparing Obama's foreign policy experience with other candidates for President you have Democrat Joseph Biden who is Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, Democrat Hillary Clinton who is a member of the Armed Services Committee and John McCain who is the Ranking Member of the Armed Services Committee yet there is no Senator except for Barack Obama who serves on three of the four committees that deal with foreign policy.

        Foreign Relations Committee

        Obama service on the Foreign Relations committee has placed him in an unique position in that he is the Chair of the Subcommittee on European Relations and serves on the Subcommittees on African Affairs; East Asia and Pacific Affairs; and International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs, and International Environmental Protection. This cross-section of subcommittees places Obama in a unique position of having knowledge about Asian, African and European issues. The only other member of the Foreign Relations committee who is running for President is Democrat Joseph Biden who is Chairman of the full Foreign Relations Committee yet unlike Obama he does not serve on any of the other foreign policy committees and his experience is limited to foreign policy issues covered by the Foreign Relations Committee.

        Obama has also traveled extensively in his capacity as a member of the Foreign Relations Committee and has visited Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan in Asia; Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, and the Palestinian Territories in the Middle East; and Chad, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Kenya, and South Africa in Africa. Obama has also co-sponsored the "Lugar-Obama Act" with Republican Senator Richard Lugar who was Chairman of the Committee on Foreign Relations at the time. This act was a bi-partisan effort to increase U.S. security in terms of the elimination of conventional weapons and weapons of mass destruction. This legislation came out of Obama's trip with Senator Richard Lugar to Russia, the Ukraine and Azerbaijan.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 09/02/2008 5:32:29 PM

      Icdchess, I can understand your concerns, but don't you think a regular person who has to deal with regular problems and situations, just as we all do, but who is just a tad abvove "regular" and in a position to be able to do something about some of our concerns, don't you think that such a person would be better able to relate to us, as "regular" people. And, I.m sure that as a former mayor and as the governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin has delt with many executive decisions. While it may not be on the scale of the president, neither were many former presidents in a position of such authority before they became president or vice president, and most did a fine job; I'm sure Mrs. Palin will, too. Theres nothing like on hand experience to learn quickly, especially for an intelligent person, whom Sarah Palin has proved herself to be. Give her a chance, I believe she and John McCain will do an amazing job for our country.

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 09/02/2008 4:49:51 PM

    What really stuns me is that these so called people of high moral values are so against abortion but it is perfectly OKAY with them for Bush to unjustly invade Iraq on false pretenses and KILL TENS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQIES (many civilians) ALONG WITH 4200 OF OUR OWN not to mention the tens of thousands maimed.

    I do not understand this logic of condemn everyone who is not like you.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 09/02/2008 4:59:14 PM

      How clever to try and change the subject. The members of the military all volunteered. Many volunteered, like my son-in-law who is currently serving in Iraq, after the war was already years old.
      Now, let's talk about Obama's position on BORN ALIVE INFANTS PROTECTION ACT which Bush inacted.
      Obama was the ONLY Senator that voted against it. Obama's position is that it is "too burdensome" to require abortionist to be required to call another doctor to priovide medical care and comfort to an infant that is alive. Why does Obama care so little for these infants? Because they can't vote?
      If you are so concerned about the troops can you explain to me why Obama did NOT visit the injured soldiers whle he was campaigning in EUROPE? I don't buy the Pres wasn't allowed...he should have gone alone , without the press to meet these injured soldiers. Oh yeah, he knows they probably won't be voting...so why should he care abbout them either.

      • Posted By: neos @ 09/02/2008 5:09:55 PM

        loriw, here is an interesting link on Senator Obama's position..
        http://www.newsweek.com/id/155560

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 09/02/2008 6:49:55 PM

          No one needs a cover story/spin link. We have the documentation and transcripts...and we will hear hundreds od times....."If my daughters make a mistak, I don't want them PUNISHED with a baby."

          Hussein Obama is a crook and a fraud.

          NOBAMA!!!

          • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 09/02/2008 10:22:30 PM

            Gov. Palin's 17-yr. old daughter looks none too happy in one picture where she's holding her little brother and is five months pregnant with her own child. Poor kid.

          • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 09/02/2008 7:22:13 PM

            Yes, why let all those silly facts get in the way of your delusional view of the world.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 09/02/2008 5:15:29 PM

      Tired, isn't that exactly what you are doing---condemning people who do not believe as you do? The Bible tells us "Judge not, that ye be not judged". The Palin family is no different from any other American family who are doing the best they know how to raise their children to be responsible adults, and in teaching their daughter that she needs to be responsible for her actions, they are doing a good job of parenting. I'm sure, like every family, they would have perfered their daughter to be older and properly married before having a child, but once a child reaches a certain age, they will make their own choices, regardless of our approval; it does not mean they are bad, it only means they are human, and sometimes using poor judgement is part of the human condition. The Palin family are doing what they have to do to deal with a difficult situation, just as we or any other family would, and I admire their courage and strength in standing by their daughter, while continuing to go on with their lives in as normal a way as possible. You can not compare a war with type of situation, a war is completely different, in that we are defending our country's freedom, and in doing so, yes, often the innocent suffer right along with the guilty, through the very fact of their being where the fighting is going on. Do you not think that if the war were here instead of there, that your family's lives would be in danger, as well as mine, and everyone elses? It has always been that way. During the war between the states, innocent lives were lost on both sides. Its not a matter of condoning killing, its a matter of trying to keep our way of life intact for you and for our future generation, its a matter of survival. Please try not to confuse the two issues, or to try to relate them to each other, because it can't be done.

  • Posted By: Alaskan Resident @ 09/02/2008 5:14:49 PM

    Sarah Palin can definetly shake things up. I think she's a political firecracker with many (maybe not all) of the right ideas. In respect to some other comments made, i think they are a family, and anyone can relate to the difficulties within a family structure. It doesn't mean that she isn't a good canidate for the VP. It's not a weakness when you can relate to a politcal party.

    I see that OBAMA was brought up. Does anyone know off hand what his veiws surrounding firearms would be?

    • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 09/02/2008 5:28:18 PM

      Yes, we need to take all your firearms away from people like you, because your obsession on those weapons are the cause of too many tragedies. Human and animal tragedies. You, people nee to be lock up in mental institutions!!!!!!

      • Posted By: Alaskan Resident @ 09/02/2008 5:47:08 PM

        Since Alaska is a state widely populated with deer and other animals many of us choose to hunt and fish for our own food. With an animal population so agressive often the use of firearms in neccessary to ensure our safety.
        Now, if you want to come up here, spend some time in the heavy populated areas without a shotgun, then maybe ill listen until then, .. go save a duck

        • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 09/02/2008 10:08:17 PM

          Any vegetariians in Alaska? Any supermarkets?

          Sarah Palin proudly looking at her fresh caribou 'kil'l with her young child at her side tells me all I need to know about Gov. Palin's 'pro life' ruse.

    • Posted By: Young Female Attorney @ 09/02/2008 5:58:17 PM

      Hi, I have heard Obama talk of gun rights for those in the rural areas for hunting and the need for certain gun controls in urban cities to curtail violence. He knows what he is talking about. He doesn't preach in a world of absolutes. Our world is not black and white and there is much grey, which our leaders need to find the balance to accomodate citizens with different issues. I think he understands that. That also can bring us to another issue as a woman and Palin as the VP choice I must address. Just because someone is pro-choice, does not make them pro-abortion. The point is to give woman control over their own bodies and give Americans the freedom of choice. I don't see governments role in limiting this right. I understand people want to defend the unborn fetus, but Palin's rejection of the right to an abortion for rape or incest scares me. Those are not government calls, those are indivilual's calls. That person has to make a decision, not be forced into something.

  • Posted By: Alaskan Resident @ 09/02/2008 5:04:58 PM

    So I have been working with a crummy keyboard (all the typos)

    The thing that I don't agree with was Govenor Palin's descion to pursue legal action against a ruling concerning the endangered Polar Bear. There was a lengthy amount of time before that descion was made. There was a lot of information provided to support that descion. It was not an easy one. It is an embaressment to have an agency, a group fighting for the future of wildlife and then the Govenor turning around and trying to stop it because it may have interference with oil and gas development in the state. That was definelty a wrong move. It appears that the oil and gas have more value because of the potential for profit. Poor choice

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 09/02/2008 5:09:00 PM

      You are a minority Alaskan. Gov. Palin enjoys the highest approval rating, of any Gov. in the U.S. Over 80%. She sees the Polar Bear issue for what, it actually is. A left-wing loony move to use environmentalism into a marriage with socialism. Ya'll are a bunch of kooks.

      NOBAMA!!!

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: Taxpayer @ 09/02/2008 10:03:15 PM

        yall is not a word

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 09/02/2008 7:20:44 PM

        Yes, that whole environmental protection thing - what a bunch of nonsense. After all, God entrusted us with this earth and all its creatures - but who cares, as long as can continue to get cheap gas for our SUV's, that's all that is really important.

        HollyRoller, your hypocricy knows no bounds.

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 09/02/2008 7:31:30 PM

          Ziggy...do you even know what....hypocrisy means? Do you know anything about Holy Scripture? Do you know anything about the eco-agenda? My guess is no...you only parrot Hussein talking points. But for your info....HolyRoller says...SAVE THE HUMANS....and as Gov. Palins' dad's truck bumper-sticker says...."VEGETARIAN....old Indian word for....he who is a bad hunter"........EcoNuts are actually a joke....except when they burn homes and try to murder their detractors.

          NOBAMA!!!

          • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 09/02/2008 7:57:48 PM

            I am willing to bet I know more about the scriptures than you do. Of course, I don't spend my time trying to twist them into something they're not.

            Let me guess - you don't have any children. Most of you nut jobs who don't care about the environment don't have any children.

            if you did, then you would have a different perspective.

  • Posted By: tigojo @ 09/02/2008 10:02:58 PM

    Did you actually look at that site ? Geez - get a brain - at least half of one? First, are those pictures "real" or digitally altered. I have a graduate/honor student at Johns Hopkins. I have seen worse and similar on her Facebook - mostly acting "silly" but wonderful people. Teenage pregnancy - it happens. Maybe even Mrs. Phlin had an unplanned pregancy with baby Trigg? And I would like to know if she knew early on that her baby had Downs, whether she chose to be tested or not, etc. The mediatakeout seems to be a non-white version of "the Enquirer" or something. Check out those who posted comments. Let us judge Ms.Phlin on her abilities and what she can offer to our country. If you ask me, she is the most down to earth canadite we have seen in a very long time. outdoor sports, all American family - I say bring 'em on!

  • Posted By: Dave25474 @ 09/02/2008 9:54:25 PM

    I don't know if someone has posted this yet or not, but I just read on msnbc.com about a video that has surfaced (first broken by huffingtonpost.com) which has Palin giving a speech to her church, and asking for God's help for a pipeline in Alaska, and that they pray for our nation leaders to deliver God's plans in Iraq. It's already on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k

  • Posted By: Kboogie @ 09/02/2008 9:36:20 PM

    YOU GOTTA LOVE THIS!!!!!

    http://www.mediatakeout.com/2008/26330-explosive_pics_vp_candidate_palins_daughter_is_wilder_than_britney__pics_of_her_and_her_girls_getting_drunk_and_kissing_each_other.html

    I know it's a long URL, but you all have to see this. Palin's pregnant daughter (Bristol) posted pics of herself online of her drinking and toung-kissing her sis-in-law.

    GOTTA LOVE THIS FAMILY!!! Even better, you gotta love the GOP's effort to run a trick-play w/ 5seconds left in overtime....and the play goes HORRIBLY wrong!!!!

    This is worse than a "Hail Mary" pass!!!!

    What a bunch of clowns!!!

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/02/2008 2:30:59 PM

    No more ''discomfiting''than Black Liberation Theology.[which is a good reason why NEWSWEAKs Obamaites went North To Alaska to see if they could find any ranters on the scale of a Wright,and came away disappointed. We have had Assemblies of God in our neighborhoods for decades and none of them have pulled the crap we are now seeing coming out of St.Paul,with police seeking protesters who dropped heavy sandbags on buses from an overpass which is attempted murder]. Then too,the onus of public opinion regarding the pregnancy of Bristol is turning against the liberal MSM and the leftwingers. KOS was nailed for a particularly vile lie that they spread on the youngest child of Sarah Palin. Under a firestorm of criticism,Markos,the head Kossack,moved to delete the posting of a conspiricy theory hatched that this child,[ named Trig I believe],was actually a hidden child of Bristols. Todays DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND,has a lead blog in which one of its most ardent defenders is resigning out of ''disgust''with what his ideology is doing with this issue,and how it was handled by DU,
    CNNs newest poll released today shows a dead heat,at 45 Obama and 44 McCain. The ''Palin sympathy vote''may be a factor. The revelations that the MSM [including NEWSWEAK] deliberately sat for months on the Edwards affair while leaping upon the Palin pregnancy are possibly another,causing even political satirist Jon Stewart ,no Friend of Republicans,to rip into the MSM ['' I actually thought that they were going to ask Obama if they could have sex together'']. Then too,the MSM is not even glancing at the relationship between lobbyist son Hunter Biden and his father,which would make for more interesting reading.[As would Operation BOARD GAMES,which is not seeing the outside-of Chicago sunlight,which is precisely where the MSM Obamaites,including NEWSWEAK,want it].
    The real hypocrisy here is that the liberals who pattern themselves as the least ''evangelical,judgemental,strict and closed-minded'' are being the most evangelical,judgemental,strict,and closed-minded. This focus on these pregnancies will backfire with painful results. The RNC convention is barely off the ground,let alone completed,and Obamas numbers are already beginning to shrink.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/02/2008 4:01:03 PM

      You seem sadder than usual today. Why?

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/02/2008 9:23:27 PM

        The BS and the way that it is being peddled by what passes as ''news''these days I guess. The New York Times has already been nailed on its third straight Pg.1 lie of the last three days.[making FOX seem like a paean of truthfullness]. Now we find out through the Obama camp,that lawyer Allison Davis is being considered to lead the Dept.of Housing and Urban Development in the new administration.

        Yet Davis is a onetime associate of Tony Rezko,and is himself named in the BOARD GAMES investigation documents as a ''schemer''[or,those who funneled millions to Rezkos slumlord REZMAR scheme and also funneled dough to both of Obamas 2000,and 2004 runs for Congress].
        The task for the next few days is to tie all of those associated with Obama in BOARD GAMES as ''persons of interest'',''Individual A [through F]'',including double letters such as ''Individual EE'',or ''political contact A,B,or C'',[as so arranged by Asst.US Attorney Fitzgerald of Scooter Libby fame],and match these names to positions within an Obama administration.
        Obviously,this is what the press should be focusing on,rather than spreading unwarrented opinions not backed by a scintilla of evidence that ''Palin did not appear to be pregnant in this photo taken...'' or that ''Palin was a member of the Alaska Indpendance Party for two years''[as opined repeatedly by the NY Times and its moronic Obamaite scribbler Liz Bumiller without evidence ],and discover what crooks Obama will be trying to saddle our nation with. Davis,as it happens was the chief ''schemer''of the Rezko REZMAR slumlord scheme signed off on by Obama in October of 1998,whereby state and federal funds would be siphoned through Rezko and Davis'law firm [Barnhill],to the eventual tune of 14 million dollars,and then used to fund shoddy construction projects in the Chicago Southside,while also increasing Rezkos personal wealth.
        It does not take a Sherlock Holmes to see where all of this is going. Davis will be in a supreme position to use American taxpayer monies through pork projects rubberstamped by a Democrat Congress to feed an utterly corrupt big-city machine back in Chicago,making millionaires out of all of the ''schemers''. Fitzgerald needs to act fast,as does the Chicago Tribune and Sun Times,who are the nations only news services who have kept track of BOARD GAMES and stay on this,if the lamestreams [including NEWSWEAK],will not.[as nothing will be allowed to prevent the coming of the Expected One,even blatant lawbreaking and scandal of which Rezko is only a piece].

        www.opednews.com Apr.08,2008 ''Operation BOARD GAMES For Slumlords'' [using Tribune,federal documents and Sun Times sources, is providing constant updates on the corruption investigation].

  • Posted By: garysgary @ 09/02/2008 2:55:34 PM

    I do want McCain and Palin elected...but I can assure you that Osama bin laden and Vladimir Putin do! Osama wants to kill more Americans so when McCain starts more wars he can do that...thousands more! and Putin would just love to butt heads with this little cheerleader from Alasks!

    • Posted By: star3 @ 09/02/2008 8:09:19 PM

      gary, Putin may get the chance to do just that. Ever been kicked in nthe butt by a cheerleader? It smarts!

  • Posted By: ABEFRAN @ 09/02/2008 7:51:51 PM

    as a 73 year old woman acceptin Christ in a Baptist church at age 7 and then being raised and attending the Assemblies of God until I was in my forties, I firmly believe that each persons faith is a very personal matter however but I do not feel that the Religious Right or Focus on Faith practice what they preach . From what I have read I believe that Palin does on some issues but not on others for instance she used the bridge to nowhere money to construct a road to the proposed area and made the statement tp accept the money while they could get it. You have the right to attend the church of your choice but PLEASE PRACTICE WHAT YOU PROFESS. money while they could get it. I donccedpt

  • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 09/02/2008 7:48:32 PM

    MC Cain is not the anti christ, I would rather say, he is mentally unstable... Look for msn today about Bhutto's hunsband mental record... same past as MC Cain!! This is something I have long suspected... nice and then all of a sudden he goes, into rages... This is the symptoms of a mental disease. Good luck! You elected a retarded moron and now you're ready to vote for a crazy one?? You must yourself, be out of your minds.

  • Posted By: Yes! We ALL Can @ 09/02/2008 2:22:57 PM

    McCain has only energized his base - Palin's pick has done nothing to reassure the country that McCain has the judgment and temperament to lead. In fact - by Palin's pick, he has done just the opposite with those NOT in his party.

    Palin is no HIllary Clinton and exactly stands on the complete opposite side of the fence of what Hillary stood and fought for. Hillary is not going to let Palin get away with calls to "shatter the glass ceiling" with women, and women are not going to vote for another woman simply because she is a woman. Women are much smarter, again than republicans are giving them credit for! Sexism is playing itself out in the McCain campaign. On almost every issue important to women - Palin (unbelievably) is against them or has voted no on them just like McCain! Everybody needs to remember that she is far more conservative than McCain and embraces Bush's policies as well!! Her being a woman has nothing to do with this ticket. We need to take a closer look at a policy positions. You will instantly see that she loves and embraces Bush. Palin is more of the same - McBush!

    • Posted By: star3 @ 09/02/2008 7:44:56 PM

      Hummmm....sounds like somone is worried.... being a woman, I completely agree that women are smart, and being smart, we will accept that, while we are a tad suspicious (that being our nature), we believe that Palin was selected on her ability and experience as well as for her, possible, capability of bringing the women's vote in. Maybe. But in my smart mind, I really do feel that if she had not had something more going for her, she would not have been selected, so lets give her a chance, my hunch says she will do fine.

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 09/02/2008 2:47:20 PM

      My thoughts exactly! We wanted HILLARY, not just any woman. McCain insults the intelligence of the American woman when he thinks she will fall for such an obvious ruse.

      • Posted By: star3 @ 09/02/2008 7:37:16 PM

        summer, I'm sure, that while that may have been a factor, it was not what sealed the decision, the candidate for vp would have to have something going for him/her besides being "hot" or female. And Sarah Palin sounds like she has what it takes to do the job. Her being a female is just a coincident. We are sorry if your intelligence is insulted, as i'm sure that was not the intent, but if thats how you feel, there is no arguing with feelings, as we both know, so do whatever you feel comfortable with, and so will we.

      • Posted By: WHATADUMIES @ 09/02/2008 3:54:51 PM

        Yoyu want Hilary ?
        You can vave Her any way You want. Barak Don't and any number os republicans eather. If Hilary has just a bit of what Palin has - democrat would win this election ..otherwise You're SCREWD Hahahaha ! !

  • Posted By: jonz316 @ 09/02/2008 7:33:59 PM

    The worst news I heard today is that Bush's aids are going to help tutor her on foreign policy. Hmmm..are they really the best tutors? I am beginning to think McCain is in fact the anti-Christ.

  • Posted By: SeeingAndBeingSeen @ 09/02/2008 4:04:48 PM

    Uh, o.k., uh how can I twist this story into making people think Mrs. Palin speaks in tongues, lol. High school journalism. Nice try, though.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 09/02/2008 4:16:15 PM

      It's O.K. to talk about Obama's church and pastor, but not Palin's? Don't be a hypocrit!

      • Posted By: southernconservativefemale @ 09/02/2008 5:43:38 PM

        There is a huge difference between Obama's pastor and his hatred of whites and Palin's pastor and the tradition of speaking in tongues. Honestly, that's just a silly argument.

        • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 09/02/2008 7:31:37 PM

          Southern Racist Tramp - please go back to your KKK meeting. They need you to wash the sheets again.

      • Posted By: star3 @ 09/02/2008 6:02:16 PM

        ZigZag, knock, knock--earth to Zig---we HAVE been talking about Mrs. Palin's church, where have YOU been? This is America, last time I checked, which means we can discuss anything we want! Isn't freedom great?!

        • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 09/02/2008 7:30:36 PM

          Yes, it is - and I have the freedom to call you an idiot. Ahh, freedom is wonderful.

  • Posted By: tkjer @ 09/02/2008 2:45:28 PM

    The pregnancy matters because we need to have a public debate over how children should be prepared for adult living. If we really put children first then we wouldn???t force them to have babies by accident. Teenagers put more time and thought into what kind of cell phone to get than they do about premarital sex and the consequences of unplanned pregnancies. If the political agenda only allows the choices of abstinence or carrying every zygote to full term then the parents need to be held accountable for these unplanned babies. Children having babies is not something to be celebrated or encouraged, and I question the morality of any adult that forces children to become parents before they are ready for the responsibility. Too many lives have been needlessly ruined. Child abuse, child neglect, wife beating, disertion, abandonement. How much worse do these terrible conditions have to get before we handle family planning with intelligence instead of ignorance masquerading as religion?

    • Posted By: star3 @ 09/02/2008 7:26:59 PM

      tkjer, babies are not an "accident", they are a living, breathing human with rights. Unless a woman was raped, the pregnancy was not "forced"; Most "children" have been taught by the time they are as young as seven or eight about the facts of life, and by the time they reach their teens, they are well prepared concerning how babies are made, and that birth control is available if they are determined to have sex, anyway, regardless of knowing there is a chance of becoming pregnant or contacting an STD. So, most young people are NOT ignorant of the facts, unless they have been raised in a monestary. All that being said, the human nature element has to be acknowledged, and sometimes, "things just get out of control" that they never intended to happen, but it did, so now it has to be delt with. Abortion is not the solution to an un-wanted pregnancy--adoption is if the mother does not want to keep the child. And I have never understood why the young man, the dad isn't offered the opportunity to keep the child if he chooses. Anyway, each family deals with the situation as they feel comfortable with, and that is their PRIVATE business, or should be. Each situation is personal and should be handled with respect and understanding of all concerned. While, I do not condon abortion as a method of birth control, I, also, do not judge those cases where there is a medical reason for one. I don't attempt to judge ANY. for that matter, that is between them and God, not between them and anyone else. However, I Am pro life, and as such, believe that once conception has taken place, that it is a child, and has equal rights as anyone does. With education as available as it is about birth control (the best method being abstinence) there is no excuse for anyone to be surprised when they find themselves pregnant, unless they did use some form of birth control which failed to work. And its my belief that God loves and accepts a child, no matter how it got here, so can we do any less?

  • Posted By: jd_jenks @ 09/02/2008 5:21:13 PM

    From the article, it sounds like the Palin Family has a very supportive community which speaks loudly to the types of people they associate with. It was completely within their right to ask for pastoral discretion and I applaud the pastors at the church for honoring that request. Sounds like a great test of character and the Palins are weathering the storm just fine. I'll bet she is the best VPOTUS we'll see in our live time.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 09/02/2008 7:16:32 PM

      Only problem with that is that she and McCain are going to lose.

    • Posted By: neos @ 09/02/2008 5:26:14 PM

      It does, however, seem to undercut Palin's preference for abstinence based education.

  • Posted By: AndieB @ 09/02/2008 7:06:57 PM

    its funny how you sterotype Obama and believe every rumor, but when something comes out about Palin you think its not true or you make excuses. Try judging yourself before you judge others. Dont put God in your evil because you will have to answer for it later. Even though I dont agree with McCain or Palin I would never use the words that you have.

    GOD PLEASE FORGIVE THEM AS THE NO NOT WHAT THEY SAY. EVERYONE IS YOUR CHILD AND YOU LOVE THEM ALL THE SAME

  • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 09/02/2008 6:36:58 PM


    My my my... When this comes out.. Let's see what happen!

    That is correct R.Donald Snyder We are a Military Family and here is what McCain did to his own men.

    McCain votes AGAINST our combat troops ... 5/2008: McCain voted AGAINST the Webb GI Bill. 9/2007: McCain voted AGAINST bill to minimize periods of time between deployment of units sent to Iraq.

    5/2006: McCain voted AGAINST $20 Million to VA for health care facilities. 4/2006: McCain voted AGAINST $430,000,000 to VA for Medical Services. 3/2006: McCain voted AGAINST increasing Vet-medical services $1.5 billion in FY2007.

    3/2004: McCain voted AGAINST increasing Vet-medical care by $1.8 billion. 10/2003:
    McCain voted to TABLE an amendment for $322,000,000 for safety equipment for USforces. "Table"= vote never hits floor. 10/2003: McCain voted to TABLE a vote for $1 Billion for National Guard and Reserve Equipment in Iraq dueto:shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, & tactical vests. Here's your test MSM -- will YOU all inform the viewers/voters of McCain's ANTI-MILITARY voting record? c. proffit, Lexington, Ky. (Sent Friday, July 18, 2008 4:08

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