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  • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 4:23:20 PM

    This is a joke; John McCain's advisers have said, this pick is to energize the base. The base isnt what McCain needed, he needed independents; and i assure you this: independents means, grey area, not the following: Anti-choice, even in cases of rape and incest. Anti-gay rights completely. Belief that the troops are doing "god's work", yes direct quote.

    He may have energized the base, but he abandoned the moderates he needed to have a chance in this election.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 9:03:17 PM

      I agree that incest would be a valid case for an abortion, if the family chose that route, its a very difficult area, and the person who was guilty of the incest, should be punished. Rape....hummm..thats a hard one....guess, again, it would depend on the victim's age or the circumstances, and if she chose to end the pregancy as soon as it was discovered, then it should, probably, be her choice. Those are two unusual examples, but to use abortion as a method of birth control, is not acceptable at all. As for "Gay rights", as far as I'm concerned, they have the right to go back into the closet and stay there. I resent their use of the word "gay" to discribe themselves; gay was once a very decent word, but, now, has become a word to be whispered. There is nothing remotely gay about them, they are homosexuals, so why not call them by their real name. Judgement is God's, but acceptence of them in my face is mine to say. I would never say or do anything to hurt another person, homosexual or straight, but neither do i want it flaunted in my face, just as I don't want people's tolit habits broadcast all over the media as if it were something entertaining.

    • Posted By: neophyte @ 09/03/2008 4:31:49 PM

      Hey, you forgot creationist and global warming denier. The scientific preparation of this country is a problem which even John McCain may have once acknowledged. Do we really need a flat earth crackpot a heartbeat away?

      • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 4:38:22 PM

        Thank you for your furthering of the point. This is what im talking bout completely; what about this woman is "average" or "middle america", the fact that she is a mother? Well, i am over-f*cking-whelmed; i didnt realize that having children bridged all the differences of ultra-conservatives and the rest of us. I guess you learn another falsehood everyday.

  • Posted By: workindad @ 09/03/2008 4:27:59 PM

    Her husband is currently unemployed. Why assume he can't care for the children? When my son was 10 months old I kicked my abusive wife out and became a single parent. It wasn't easy but I did what I had to do to protect my son. The Palin's deserve our respect or at least a fair hearing. It is amazing the media has no qualms about passing along outrageous accusations or digging into every petty detail of their lives in the short time since she was chosen by Senator McCain but is so protective of Senator Obama that people can't even mention his middle name.

    • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 4:33:15 PM

      Because Obama's middle name is laughably irrelevant to anything conserning this campaign; questioning her knowledge of the issues facing this country is the most relevant thing that exists in evaluating her, quit making this about her gender and family, it makes no difference. The McCain campaign knows that the press was going to talk about something, and they offered no policy stnces or knowledge, nothing to fill any substanative debate; why is that? Could it be that she has nothing to offer in the realm of policy?

      • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 8:45:47 PM

        Or could it be that the left wants us to forget that Obama's middle name is Hussine? I don't believe in judging people by their name, per sae, but I have a feeling many people might back off from electing anyone whose name was Adolph, also.

      • Posted By: workindad @ 09/03/2008 5:10:08 PM

        The point, obviously, is that it's open season on Governor Palin but Senator Obama is in a protected class. In other words, a Democrat or more precisely a liberal Democrat. The media could ask Senator Obama policy questions such as, "What law is it that gives tax breaks to companies that move jobs overseas?" "Why didn't you work with Congressman Pelosi to repeal that law?" "If you think your taxes are too low why don't you pay what you think is a fair share for someone of your wealth?" The media has had over a year to ask Senator Obama questions about policy but they have done nothing but attack his opponents. For months I encouraged people to vote for Senator Obama in the primaries hoping he would encourage open honest debate. Unfortunately the leaders of the party don't have enough confidence in their man to allow town hall meetings proposed by Senator McCain and the media's only goal is to protect him until he is elected. So, don't expect any substantive questions from the media. They are afraid to tell the truth about Senator Obama's plans and even more afraid American's will like Governor Palin's answers because she is a down-to-earth, practical citizen with family, business and executive experience to which most of us can relate. Nothing scares elitists more than smart, articulate, honest, working class folks.

    • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 4:40:04 PM

      Because that is the HYPOCRISY of the left. God forbid anyone question Obama's many failings...yet it is fine to jump on Palin's - with no chance for her to speak yet. Just another of the left's many inconsistencies.

  • Posted By: blakeewing @ 09/03/2008 4:41:11 PM

    While I appreciate the author's acknowledgement of the unfair treatment of Gov. Palin - one line in this piece is so oddly out-of-place that I could barely stomach the rest of the article, even-handed as it seemed to be. It was this: "I have been surprised, however, by the reactions of many women???not to Palin's pro-life views or to the fact that she had asked members of her onetime church to pray for the completion of a $30 billion natural-gas pipeline project..."
    It is exactly this sort of secularist elitism that makes the average american roll their eyes and turn off national media. This unabashed disdain for those who actually possess a faith that infuses their everyday lives and decisions is pathetically intolerant and betrays a stark ignorance of life outside those pretentious academies that draw cookie-cutter, affirmation-seeking "progressives" like ants at a picnic. The most pathetic thing is that she seems to expect that "many women" will be equally as repulsed by Gov. Palin's expression of her faith. I wonder if she's ever met a woman that lives outside NY, LA or DC. I suspect that if she has she scoffs at the poor, uneducated little dears that can't share her ivy-league enlightenment.
    People's faith is real. Just because you have some barrier that prevents you from acknowledging your own reliance on a higher power doesn't give you the moral or professional justification to belittle others with a more full understanding of the world around them. Treat others with respect first, and then maybe your call for a more respectful discussion of Gov. Palin's credentials will seem more legitimate.

    • Posted By: Young Hickory @ 09/03/2008 4:45:39 PM

      The article was not questioning her faith. You must have a persecution complex. It was questioning praying for oil and money. If you knew the teachings of Jesus then you would know her priorities don't seem to be in the right place.

      • Posted By: Yackums @ 09/04/2008 9:50:39 AM

        "praying for oil and money" in this case equals praying for lots of new jobs so people can feed their families. Are you against job creation?

        • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 8:37:30 PM

          Kudos, Yackum, well said.

  • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 09/03/2008 4:48:53 PM

    So many of the women commenting on here sound ridiculous. It's not about you or how you struggle with raising children and having a career. You're all on here venting. Palin is not qualified because she has no foreign policy experience. It has nothing to do with having no kids or 12 kids. But, if people can she IS qualified because she has 5 kids (or because Russia is across the Bering Sea from Alaska - still laughing at that one), then others can say she is NOT qualified because she has 5 kids. My grandmother raised 6 children and they had 3 homecooked meals, ironed clothes and a clean house when there were many less conveniences and everything was in order. It doesn't mean she's qualified to be president. Get a hold of yourself people.

    • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 4:50:00 PM

      Palin is not qualified because she has no foreign policy experience.

      Wow. Obama has not experience either - yet he is running for President no less. How does that work?

      • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 4:56:55 PM

        McCain has no experience in that regard. The difference is that McCain and Obama have studied and assesed and observed the issues; Palin has not. McCain has no more "executive experience" than Obama.

        • Posted By: NWscot08 @ 09/03/2008 5:15:38 PM

          That is the point, Obama ran for the nomination for the Democratic Party and won. He made his case, based on his experience, adequate or not, to the American people, won the primary and is clearly in the lead in the polls. He was not appointed like Palin was. To say that she is as or has more experience is reductionist reasoning. My aunt Bessie also has not experience so she as as qualified as Obama ergo she should be appointed VP for the GOP?

          • Posted By: Yackums @ 09/04/2008 9:55:52 AM

            "...made his case based on his experience..." That's a laugh. He made his case based on the promise of assuaging some hypothetical white racist guilt, "the rise of the oceans [beginning] to fall," and the most mesmerizing voice since James Earl Jones.

            • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 8:35:23 PM

              Yackums, speaking of mesmerizing vuices, ever watched "The Joy of Painting" with Bob Ross? He is passed away, now, but his shows are still on, occassionally. He has one of the most hypnotic voices I have ever heard, hes a good artist, too. (Was a good artist)

      • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 09/03/2008 5:09:33 PM

        How it works is that Obama has more foreign policy experience than she does. Thats how that works. Do you get it now? If the president is going to be a 72 year old 2 time cancer survivor, I want the VP to have a little more knowledge about the world.

  • Posted By: sofraj @ 09/03/2008 5:05:03 PM

    I oppose her nomination because she is not qualified. I would oppose a man with the same resume'. There is not enough time between now and election day for the electorate to make a sound decision on her qualifications or learn more about her. There are many who say we don't know Obama well enough yet and we've been reading about him in the press for nearly 2 years. Shame on John McCain to throw this curve ball at the electorate and the pandering it implies. It is correct for us (the voters) and the press to completely vet her between now and election day. Maybe we'd rather go softball on her and risk a tragic mistake like all the softballing in the run up to the Iraq war. Heaven help us if we fail so badly again.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 8:29:28 PM

      Not qualified??!! Do you think they just pull governors out of cracker jack boxes?! Of course shes qualified!

  • Posted By: bvjernigan @ 09/03/2008 5:06:22 PM

    I disagree with about half of Sarah Palin's politics, and I haven't yet decided who gets my vote - I have voted democrat the last 5 times (since I was able to vote). The more I hear about my fellow democrats being UGLY about Sarah Palin, the more I like her. The more I learn real things about her record, the more I like her. I always thought and would proudly say how much more intelligent and morally superior (when it came to mud slinging) democrats were than republicans, I guess I was wrong. For the life of me, I can't believe that I will most likely vote Republican this year - never thought I would see the day......

    • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 09/03/2008 5:22:47 PM

      This is really sad. You're voting for a vagina. Try to learn what the issues are and if you've voted dem in the past, how could you possibly vote republican?? What is wrong with your mind that you can't see that the republican agenda is totally against the advancement of women. This pick is a publicity stunt. BTW I am a woman, married, pregnant and have an 8 year old. Please think about what your vote means for women.

      • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 8:23:59 PM

        No, Blue, wrong end, honey; we are voting for a brain. Actually two brains. What are you voting for----a phoney promising control freak wannabe? One want to change America, the other wants to change Washington; its not America that needs changing, its the antique politics in Washington, so, I will be voting for the one who wants to leave America intact, and change the way things are done in the capitol of America---John McCain.

    • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 5:25:03 PM

      Seriously, i'd like to see you answer my questions underneath.

    • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 5:13:25 PM

      Really, well lets put you to the test: What half of her agenda do you disagree with, what specifics in her record do you like so much, and name a person in the democratic party that has attacked her on a personal level, and not a policy stance like they ought to question her.

  • Posted By: yisitsohardtoregister @ 09/03/2008 7:43:28 PM

    Another interesting point is that Obama stood there and said the family was off limits, and I felt he was sincere. Do his followers just have that little respect for him? The comments I hear and read are so 'middle school', vile, and mean, that they are doing damage to his campaign. Was Obama just saying that for affect and then did he send out a text message saying 'wink, wink, now go after her'?

    One more comment. People seem to be making a really big deal about the Down's baby and her not being home with that baby. I work with disabled children, and their parents work, too. I didn't realize that they couldn't work - should I start counseling parents with disabled children to quit their jobs? How long should they stay home? This isn't a temporary condition, so will I need to tell them that they should never work again?

    • Posted By: DeeDee2 @ 09/03/2008 7:53:37 PM

      Everyone is speaking of the VP "job" as if it is a standard 9-to-5. It's not that parents with children can't work at all. I've read articles describing presidential cabinet members day as starting at 6 am and often continuing through the late evening. As the Governor of Alaska I assume she could drive her meetings and travel at her own discretion. This job doesn't feel the same to me.

      • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 7:57:39 PM

        But, Dee, according to aome democrats, all the president does is vaccation---that is, a Republican president just vaccations, so guess that must mean that the only worthwhile things ever accomplished in Washington, was when a Democrat was in office, since they never took vaccations. Well, that should reassure the worriers who are concerned about Paulin's children being neglected; if the president gets that many vaccations, just think how many the vice president will get, so plenty of time for her to be a hands on mom. A peice of cake.

  • Posted By: yisitsohardtoregister @ 09/03/2008 7:59:43 PM

    I can't believe I just read a comment by a man who stated that sexism occured in the 50's and 60's. As I stated before, my mother caught it in the 70's. A female friend of hers had to tell her husband that my father was killed in Viet Nam because women couldn't hang out with divorced women. A female lawyer friend of mine didn't get the $40,000 a year raise that her male counterparts did THREE years ago because the males 'had families to raise'. When she pointed out that her husband was a 'stay at home dad', she was told if she fought it, she would never get another job as a corporate lawyer. How's that for the 21st century and the 'lack' of sexism. I don't know another man that would agree with the statement that men question other men's child care arrangements. I could go on and on about this issue....

    • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 7:43:06 PM

      Thank you, yisit, for making this point so well. I totally agree.

    • Posted By: carnaldiem @ 09/04/2008 12:36:07 PM

      If any of this was true, there would be lawsuits for discrimination. Please stop trying to defend a stereotypical view of society as male-dominated. In the real world, and in cosmopolitan areas, this has not been the case for over thirty five years. And men, real men, do show concern about how other men are raising their families. Whether or not they choose to use a public form to risk their "maleness" is a point for debate.

  • Posted By: yisitsohardtoregister @ 09/03/2008 8:06:18 PM

    She can't run her own house? WHAT am I hearing? Do you have children? Did you conceive them in your parents' house? I can't even begin to fathom what would make someone say this! Do you mean that all we have to do as women is stay home and then the issue of teenage pregnancy will go away - because we are then 'running our houses'????? Wow! Why didn't you just tell everyone that secret back before we made the huge mistake of allowing women to get out of the kitchen? That's the biggest tax break ever! No more sex education, no more caring for out of wedlock babies, and I'm sure no more high school dropout or even failure at all in school. C'mon women! Back home it is to run our houses! Harleyishere for president!

    • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 7:36:03 PM

      You Go Girl! Love it!

    • Posted By: DeeDee2 @ 09/03/2008 9:05:27 PM

      The VP job (and possible presidency) probably require A LOT more time in the day than the jobs that most of us have. The job of mothering is a big job in itself. And I know I turned down time consuming and travel ridden assignments in my career when my kids were very young. A mother doesn't have to stay in the home/kitchen to raise her children but they do need mom's time in the day for MOM'S nurturing and guidance. I'm not a Hillary fan but I do remember hearing of an interview at the White House (while Bill was president) that she cut short after determining that Chelsea was just getting home from school. I gave her thumbs up for that. The younger Palin kids deserve to know the Hockey Mom Sarah that's being advertised. After the younger kids are older then Go Sarah Go.

  • Posted By: David Rozgonyi @ 09/04/2008 1:46:31 AM

    1) The author of the article writes: "Every family is unique, as is every woman's ability to cope with chaos and stress." This, and other comments regarding a parent's (gender-neutral) ability to "juggle" career and child all seem to miss the point: What is it like to BE juggled? I'm sure Mrs. Palin is an expert at managing her time, however from the perspective of the child whose time is being so managed, the result is the same, and is far from ideal.

    2) As a potential Vice President who will no doubt be casting tie-breaking votes on, among many other issues, legislation concerning (or diminishing) the teaching of sex education in schools, why is it not fair to examine how spectacularly she has failed her in her own home, where presumably her message was regularly and diligently hammered home?

    3) And why it is not legitimate for voters to stick our collective noses into Mrs. Palin's family life and affairs, when she, as a famously pro-life anti-choice anti-gay marriage candidate, so religiously does just that to every family in the United States, and desires to do so at the Federal level? It doesn't feel very nice, or respectful, does it, Mrs. Palin?

    • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 7:31:54 PM

      David, your concern is appreciated, I'm sure, but isn't it a tad egotistical to assume to speak for someone else? You don't know how the children feel about a working mom. I worked for a time, and my kids loved it that I was able to do so, and we had great quality and quanity time as a family. I am sure
      Sarah Palin's children are very proud of her. They will be fine if given love and good care.

  • Posted By: kmrlewis @ 09/04/2008 10:48:12 AM

    What a terrific post. I hope Sarah Palin becoming a public figure will lead to a new discussion of working moms and the right of all moms to make the choices they think best for their families, as I blogged here: http://workingmoms.about.com/b/2008/09/04/will-sarah-palins-candidacy-set-back-working-mothers.htm Maybe we can even end the Mommy Wars!! And I do think we can judge her without being judgmental.

    • Posted By: DMJMom03 @ 09/04/2008 12:06:27 PM

      I think voicing your opinion is being judgmental. One of the issues I have with republicans is their ease of 'judging' but not being judged. Anybody who does not think this would be taken to a whole different level if Obama or Biden had daughters who were pregnant, they are not being real. If my memory serves me correctly, McCain is the person who made the really UGLY comment about Chelsea Clinton during one of Bill's campaigns.

      • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 7:24:35 PM

        DMJM, have you even read the comments here, or listened to the news? Republicans are constantly being judged, just as Democrats are, its called POLITICS! P-O-L-I-T-I-C-S. Repeat after me---POLITICS! I don't recall Mr. McCain making any special comment about Clinton's daughter, but he may very well have. Its POLITICS!

  • Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/04/2008 11:59:47 AM

    The snarky Ms Palin wants the media to report on her undereducated teen son going to Iraq, but would prefer that they leave her HS drop out whiskey-swillin' daughter and her HS drop out drunk boyfriend out of it. She also doesn't want the media to get too close to the fact that the Lady Bristol is having a baby after being impregnated at 16. That's bad of the media - they should leave it. She does wants the media to report her opposition to the Bridge to Nowhere - after she supported it with deed and money. But, she does not want the media to report she left her little small town broke while mayor, but please do talk about the 80% lovefest-rate as a 1 1/2 year Gov. The media should steer clear of oil talk, oil-job hubbies, oil conflict of interests, murdered dogs and Library books.

    The media should stay far away from her being under investigation by a bipartisan state legislative body. And Ms. Palin really promised to cooperate with a legislative inquiry, but this week she hired a lawyer to fight to move the case to the jurisdiction of the state "personnel board" - which Palin anoints and appointed. In her cloud of rhetoric musings and snaps, Palin said speeches are just a "cloud of rhetoric." Which the media should ignore altogether. And for God's sake - for the religious right - don't talk about the lobbyist hired and ear marks received, squandered and hidden. Instead talk about how she was vetted two week ago in three hours.

    But she's apparently a good hockey mom, who should be forgiven. A bit nasally though like Fran Drescher. I bet those glasses cost more than a haircut too. Stylish. She'll look good giving her sister's ex the boot.

    • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 7:15:00 PM

      Oh, good gravy, Ask, why don'y YOU be honest, and just admit that you are angry because she isn't a democrat. The Palin family HAS been open and honest, and they are under NO obligation to fill you or anyone else in on every nit picking detail if their life! Do YOU hold a conference to let everyone who is interested know all about your private life? She is running for VP, for craps sake, not for the position of God's secretary! Allow this family to be HUMAN! And just how are you privy to info that her son is un-educated? Don't you know the military does not accept people without a high school diploma? Take care of your own little cornner of the world, and she and Mr. McCain will take care of the rest of America, should they be given the chance.

  • Posted By: aebhenegar @ 09/04/2008 1:03:01 PM

    Thank you. This is a great article and a perspective that has been shockingly missing the last few days. My only criticism is this: You say you wouldn't run for office if you were in her situation, but I'd challenge you on that. None of us knows what we would do if we were in her situation. If you had a very real chance of becoming the first female vice president of the United States, can you honestly say with all confidence that your answer would be "thanks, but no thanks" ? I've loved every moment of my maternity leave, but I honestly can't tell you what my answer would be.

  • Posted By: aebhenegar @ 09/04/2008 1:01:24 PM

    Thank you. This is a great article and a perspective that has been shockingly missing the last few days. My only criticism is this: You say you wouldn't run for office if you were in her situation, but I'd challenge you on that. None of us knows what we would do if we were in her situation. If you had a very real chance of becoming the first female vice president of the United States, can you honestly say with all confidence that your answer would be "thanks, but no thanks" ? I've loved every moment of my maternity leave, but I honestly can't tell you what my answer would be.

  • Posted By: yisitsohardtoregister @ 09/03/2008 7:29:11 PM

    Thank you so much for saying this - and saying it so well. I am a 45 year old woman who has 3 degrees and 2 children - and I've worked their entire lives. I've been told by men over the years that the 'ruination' of this country is women going to work and leaving their children in daycare. These men were very conservatve. Now I am hearing liberal women saying these things about Palin. And this comes after these same women vilified Hillary - after supporting/defending her during the Clinton administration.

    I watched my single mother try to find jobs in the 70's, and watched the sexism she experienced during those times. Enough that by 6th grade I was writing papers on the ERA. I've never considered myself a republican or democrat, but the attacks on her AFTER the attacks on Hillary has certainly cinched the decision for me.

    My 15 year old daughter became a republican just yesterday when at the office with me (I know - I'm a really BAD mother not being at home with her) while she listened to my educated, female, mental health workers slam Palin on such a personal level. These 'tolerant' liberals actually said the only reason Palin won a beauty contest was because she was only up against eskimos. How's that for tolerance for gender/race/culture? My daughter was furious, confused, and hurt -as I am.

    All of the women in the media need to watch what they are saying - that world certainly seems driven by men, and maybe they will all get sent home to raise their babies. Sorry, but that first few days, weeks, months is just the beginning. I guess we should all go home so we wont have to worry about any more social ills. Let the men solve foreign policy issues and money issues, and we'll just raise those babies.

    • Posted By: carnaldiem @ 09/04/2008 12:50:44 PM

      It must be awful being such a man-hating conservative. I'm not sure the Republican party would welcome you or your daughter. Thankfully, at least she can't vote yet. Please use some substantial issues to base your party affiliation on as these petty little attacks don't represent the non-Republican platform or voters.

  • Posted By: Beka75 @ 09/03/2008 12:54:44 PM

    As a teenage mother myself one of the reasons I found time to get pregnant is because my parents were too busy worrying about themselves. Teenagers need their parents supervision and guidence as much as toddlers do....So now my little girl grew up and I am the mother of a teenager. To be there for her I have put my career on hold so I can watch her like a hawk so she doesnt get knocked off her track.

    As far as the aminotic fluid leaking story, I am thankful the baby is perfectly fine, but with her extreme views on fetuses I wonder if Sarah Palin would put herself in jail for murder if something happened to that baby because of her poor judgment.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 09/03/2008 1:11:16 PM

      I commend you for your choices but I wanted to put out there that sometimes when parents are too involved in their teen's life "watching them like a hawk" some teens rebel and find a time or opportunity when the parent can't be watching and out of rebellion have sex and sometimes get pregnant or engage in lots of other risky behaviors. So you see there are no clear lines when it comes to parenting. I do respect your opinion over those here who have never raised children much less teenagers ( I have raised 2). Those who have never walked in the shoes of a parent of a teenager have no business telling Sarah Palin what she should or shouldn't have done. And let's all remember there are other factors influincing Sarah's decsion... her husband and the fact that her daughter and the baby's father have decided to marry. Bristol is fortunate that the father has accepted the responsibility of his choices also.

      • Posted By: DMJMom03 @ 09/04/2008 12:02:29 PM

        I'm not so convinced this young man has accepted anything. He looked like a fish out of water last nigh during Palin's speech. I think this young man has been thrushed into this position to 'cover' this lie that everybody knew about the pregnancy and the children agreed to marry. This young man had a Myspace page, since deleted, stating he had no desire to have this child or this marriage. I think for the sake of the election possibilities, these irresponsible young people are being forced to say they plan to get married. Time will tell. Why don't they get married now if that is there intentions??? I do not think they should, but if we're going to sell a lie!

    • Posted By: DeeDee2 @ 09/03/2008 5:52:07 PM

      I applaud your dedication to guide your daughter. My mom watched me like a hawk PLUS explained the ramifications of having a child before completing my education and it worked. I did the same with my daughters, and in these times had to make sure they understood that unprotected sex in these times could mean their life (HIV/AIDS). Your dilligence is no guarantee but YOU are demonstrating family values to your daughter by giving it your best shot to educate her and guide her as she grows into womanhood.

    • Posted By: anp5417 @ 09/03/2008 2:23:57 PM

      I got pregnant at 17 and my daughter was born just before my 18th birthday. In no way would I blame my parents for my mistake, regardless of whether or not they were "too busy worrying about themselves" (which they weren't). My parents were always on me and were much more involved in my life than many of my friends parents. I still found the time to get myself pregnant. Being Catholic I heard the whole abstinence speech from my Catholic school teachers, but I also learned about birth control in public high school. So, basically, any teenage girl can get pregnant regardless of how they're educated or how closely their parents monitor what they're doing. Sarah Palin shouldn't be blamed for her daughter's pregnancy just as I don't blame my parents. Bristol made her own choice just as I did.

  • Posted By: AlanCB @ 09/03/2008 4:09:21 PM

    Hello from Obamaland, southside Chicago. The demos personal attack on Palin is classic Obama. He won his first state election by disqualifying his opponents and won his US senate seat by driving his repub. opponent off the ticket by scandalmongering. It is so bad here that lifelong liberals in my circle are muttering about character assassination. Obama speaks the high road while his staff spreads the dirt. Standard operating Chicago machine politics. Please all of you planning to vote for Obama come visit southside Chicago first. Second highest murder rate, highest gas and sales taxes, worse schools, worst gangs,
    underpayed police afraid to patrol, vast areas of the city where whites and orientals cannot go. We have Obama's future here abd now, come see if you dare.

    • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 4:12:51 PM

      "orientals". Did you know that that's the Asian equivalent of the N word?

      Racists will likely not vote for Obama. The right is betting there are a lot of them, the left is betting there are not.

      • Posted By: Yackums @ 09/04/2008 9:34:34 AM

        Really? I thought ch*nk, j*p, g**k etc. were the equivalent of the N-word. "Oriental" is no more racist than saying "black" instead of "African-American", which, outside of the multiculti left, is still acceptable.

  • Posted By: factsearcher @ 09/04/2008 9:19:53 AM

    McCain's choice for VP has been such a surprise for the ones ready to pull out the claws... that in doing so they have entered the sexism zone. I'm not a republican, but it has to be obvious to the informed american that Palin's critics about her family life came about from the surprise and awe of such a candidate, her record and reputation.
    We did not question Reagan's ability to lead because he had a gay son. We did not question Edward's because of his son's tragic accident.
    My point is simple. Palin is as good or better candidate than Romeny, Leiberman and the rest. Let's concentrate on the issues which is what is pounding America. Leave the sexist comments and the mediocre media coverage of gossip and judgement to the Paris Hilton and Britney Spears kind of a fan.
    I'm a pro-choice, equal rights to gay voter, but I cannot insist enough that the scrutiny of Palin's family life and her ability to lead as VP is unreasonable and sexist to the max.

  • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 2:29:58 AM

    Wow! What a millinnium it has been! If McCain's choice for running mate did nothing else, it sure opened up a can of worms for discussion; we now have our days all planned out---watch the news channels, post our opinions on the blogs, take a couple tylonol, go back to typing and keeping track of the news. Between keeping up with what the hurricanes are doing, and what the politicians are doing, its a full time job!

  • Posted By: Tabbitha @ 09/03/2008 3:02:52 PM

    Where are all those conservative women who used to say, "Raising my children is the most important job in the world!" Can we retire that line now that conservatives are supporting a run for the Vice-Presidency by a woman with a 4-month old infant? Until I read this article, I hadn't heard any criticism of Palin for being a working mom, but I have been wondering why more conservatives who believe a mother's place is at home with the kids have been so silent about this issue.

    • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 3:13:36 PM

      It's called, "Do as I say, not as I do"

      • Posted By: star3 @ 09/04/2008 2:17:07 AM

        You forgot: "When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you." Sounds to me like you who are complaining about being persecuted by this prospective VP are guilty of doing exactly that to her.

    • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 3:17:09 PM

      I am conservative - a mother's place is wherever she elects it to be - and providing guidance for her family - something Palin is doing and has done.

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 3:39:06 PM

        "Do as I say, not as I do" The right has preaching stay at home moms and home-schooling for a long-time now. Suddenly, they are all about working women. We're glad you finally came around.

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