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  • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 09/03/2008 2:00:13 PM

    Here's Americas chance to validate the idea that a women can work AND have a family too, but there's a LOT of feet dragging from the left, which in a real way just confirms everything that they stand against - that women should be kept barefoot and pregnant at HOME. If McCain wanted to start a crapstorm, he really did it, because women are now saddled with this contradiction. The reality is that there is now a woman on the ticket that isn't too much unlike other working moms, and women voters are going to need to decide whether they're going to reject a historic first because it wasn't earned in the exact manner they expected.

    • Posted By: elizac @ 09/03/2008 6:37:08 PM

      But you see, she isn't like most of us working moms, left, right or otherwise. The vast majority of us have jobs that allow us to be home at night, rock our infants to sleep, take a day off when they are sick, and generally still be an involved mother. Being second-in-command of one of the largest, most powerful nations on earth is a WHOLE different job description than even the most high-level corporate job any working mom has.

      And by the way, I've been pretty left-of-center all my adult life, and I although I wouldn't say that being "barefoot and pregnant", and in particular being "KEPT" at home is a real great ideal, I have never - nor has anyone else I know who votes in a similar fashion - advocated against a woman doing that if she chooses. The point is that women should be allowed to make those choices. It doesn't mean that any one choice is better, or that either one comes without responsibilities and consequences.

  • Posted By: Terri20 @ 09/03/2008 6:30:31 PM

    I don't care that Sarah Palin is a woman. I think anyone who's qualified should run for office. My issue isn't with the fact that her daughter is pregnant. Not the first, won't be the last to be in that situation. My concern lies in the statement that she made saying that her daughter made a decision on her own to keep her child. I'm glad her daughter was able to make a decision, whatever it was. She should be able to make a decision. But if Sarah Palin and the far right have their way, women will will have that right taken away. So if she wants to bring that to the national stage, then I have a right to be concerned about her.

  • Posted By: Jackyl5 @ 09/03/2008 6:29:13 PM

    I agree that how her and her husband manage that family is a private matter. What I oject to is her pushing her personal beliefs on me. As the possible leader or at the least infulenance on decisions of this country I find her expirence and personal beliefs offensive. Alaska for all intensive purposes is small, largely unknown. I would like to see the media stray away from the baby and the preggers teen and let's focus on her politics and in the short time she has been govenor what have her pursuits been for that state and as mayor what has she acomplished. Alaska wanted to discect from the United States, was she is support of that initaive? If so that is what the media should be focusing on. How can the Vice President serve when not long ago she was in support of a succession from the union ?

  • Posted By: loriw @ 09/03/2008 12:43:29 PM

    This is some of the most sexist discussions I have heard since I was growing up in the Bra-burning decade of the 60's and early 70's. I am just a tad older than Sarah Palin. My parents raised me to believe as a woman that I could be anything that I wanted to be if I had education and ambition. I took their advice to heart and finished college and began a career and started a family a few years later. My husband and I ran a family business while my kids were growing up. People want to criticize Palin for going back to work immediately after giving birth but guess what ...so did I . Came home form the hospital and while my daughter was napping in the next room I picked up where I left of just before I gave birth. My daughter , asleep was not awarwe if I was watching soap operas ( which I don't) or if I was working (which I was). Most mothers these days work while raising children.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 09/03/2008 1:00:12 PM

      Girls the age of Bristol, have been getting pregnant at the age of 17 since years before women's liberation allowed women to have the choices of working outside the home. I truly believe that Sarah Palin;s decision to accept the nomination was one made after consultation with her husband and older children. What a better example to her children to use her abilities and talents that she has to her highest level. What kind of example would she be to women and young women if she bowed out of the VP offer because she had to stay behind and take care of her daughter's responsiblility. When Bristol marries do you really think thaat new family needs sarah Palin hoovering over their lives?
      If we say to Plin that she should not accept this opportunity bacause she needs to be the only one (excluding her husband)....what kind of message are we sending to ever young woman growing up in this 21st century. The message is...chose marraige and children or a career but don't expect to be able to do both. The sexism is just so blatant and unquestioned...it makes me furious as a dual career mother who feels my children were made better by watching their mother take an active role in government.

      • Posted By: elizac @ 09/03/2008 6:25:14 PM

        I grew up being told that as women, we really can have it all. But guess what: "all" comes with a price. I am a full-time working mother, and happy to be one, but.... There's quite a difference between running a family business or working at an office locally, and being the VP of one of the world's largest and most powerful countries. My job lets me be there when my child has nightmares or chicken pox or in the evening after a particularly rough day at school. Yes, it is her choice to run her family as she sees fit. But I am uncomfortable with the hypocrisy of someone who touts "family values" and yet chooses to be relatively un-involved with her own family. It says to me that "family values", in her lexicon, simply means "anti-abortion". In my book, it means a WHOLE lot more than that.

  • Posted By: readerGK @ 09/03/2008 6:24:31 PM

    I think people are missing the point that the GOP campaign WANTS people to see Palin as "everywoman." They want us to think she's just like all the other working moms out there. They want women to identify with her: she's just like us, she has kids and problems and is still a successful professional woman. But she's NOT just like other working moms. Being the VP is unlike any other job, and it has unique job requirements that are too great to be met by a parent of a special needs infant (a dad or a mom). If Biden or Obama or McCain had the kind of family needs she has, they wouldn't be able to run for such a high office either, even if they have wives to "care for the children". The GOP wants us to see her in this simplistic fashion, as just another working mom. This distracts voters from the truth: she is woefully unqualified and a hypocrite to boot. Any Clinton supporter who would change tickets to vote for her because she is female, despite the fact that her policies and beliefs are the polar opposite of HRC, needs to get her head checked.

  • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 6:17:38 PM

    Im sorry, typically abortion is not an issue with me; i'm a guy, i don't feel its any of my business to tell women what to do personally. It only scares me when a candidate has a stated purpose to outlaw abortion, even for victim of rape and incest. Thats just too extreme for America, plain and simple.

  • Posted By: greypreahcer @ 09/03/2008 6:16:33 PM

    Of cxourse you wouldn't. You must have supernatural power for the Most High God in order to fullfil the day to day routine she has. When God is in the decision, the Holy Spirit will enable you to get through the tough times and sail on in the good. Chaplain Ron Keiser

  • Posted By: jlriedeman @ 09/03/2008 6:16:09 PM

    What makes you think the job of raising a family fall exclusively on the woman? We are not talking about a single parent here.

  • Posted By: princesspookierocks @ 09/03/2008 6:12:47 PM

    I was a teenage mother who overcame many difficulties and went on to become a doctor. My children (I now have 5, the youngest of whom is 1 years old) have experienced school and now my early career. During medical school I, hid my pregnancy with my son from my classmates and instructors because of the negative comments I heard from numerous people about how the profession is cheapened when dominated by woman especially during times of pregnancy and early childhood. While in medical school I brought my two older children to school with me numerous times predominately on the weekend and school holidays and on several occasions negative comments regarding my parenting ability! I won???t go into exactly what happened only to say the behavior which caused the remarks was not extreme enough to warrant the comments. After I had my son, I went to my second year of medical school 12 days after his birth. In my residency, last September I gave birth to my youngest child, again I told only my director of the pregnancy because while the environment was slightly better I did not want to be treated poorly or differently by my colleagues. 17 days after her birth I returned to work, my friend watched her during the day and I watched her child at night while she worked. The only way we are going to further woman???s rights in this country is by abandoning the notion that a woman need be a ???perfect??? mom above rebuke if she is going to have employment let alone a career. When my husband takes the children out often times they are dirty from playing, wearing cloths that don???t even match however NO ONE ever says anything other than what a GREAT father he is! I wonder what they would say if it was me who brought them out in the same state? I NEVER comment on ANY ONES parenting ability, male or female, the way a parent deals with their children as long as there is no abuse and they are supplying the basic necessities! While I may not agree with Sarah Palin???s political stance (truthfully I am a bleeding heart liberal), but as a woman and mother, she has achieved lofty heights while raising 5 children, and I RESPECT that!

  • Posted By: krounded @ 09/03/2008 6:12:20 PM

    Here is where you can find out the naked truth about Sarah:
    http://sexe.fluctuat.net/blog/32839-sarah-palin-naked-.html

  • Posted By: mark0322 @ 09/03/2008 6:11:07 PM

    Just read a letter which was addressed to Senator Harry Reid from Governor Palin, dated June 23, 2008, which was very articulate and gets to the point without politicizing the issue she was addressing. The letter was regarding the inaction of Congress toward legislation of a national energy policy. The letter gives one example of her insight into America's issues, not the politcal implications. I think if everyone read this letter, they would talk less about the personal attack issues. They would judge her on ability, not on gravitas. If you dare to read the letter, go to the following weblink -http://pmcms.smartgreenusa.com/news/election-related-news/when-sarah-palin-took-on-harry-reid

  • Posted By: mark0322 @ 09/03/2008 6:10:41 PM

    Just read a letter which was addressed to Senator Harry Reid from Governor Palin, dated June 23, 2008, which was very articulate and gets to the point without politicizing the issue she was addressing. The letter was regarding the inaction of Congress toward legislation of a national energy policy. The letter gives one example of her insight into America's issues, not the politcal implications. I think if everyone read this letter, they would talk less about the personal attack issues. They would judge her on ability, not on gravitas. If you dare to read the letter, go to the following weblink -http://pmcms.smartgreenusa.com/news/election-related-news/when-sarah-palin-took-on-harry-reid

  • Posted By: Lovemycountry @ 09/03/2008 2:15:55 PM

    Bravo! I agree with you 100%! The reasons for not voting for the Republican ticket are all about policy, current economic state and the Iraq war. How anyone can look at what has happened in the last 8 years and vote Republican is beyond me.

    • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 09/03/2008 5:59:29 PM

      So you're saying we should vote for Daffy Duck (OBAMA) and Elmer Fudd (BIDEN)? No Thanks. If that's the best the Dems have to offer!

  • Posted By: heartlaw @ 09/03/2008 2:04:04 PM

    Don't know if my comment was posted, so will start again. I am more worried about Sara Palin's lie concerning her "quashing" the bridge to nowhere when she actually supported it, and the inclusion of $170,000,000 federal earmarks in her budget -- presumably based on promises made by the likes of Ted Stevens than I am about her "mommy problems." At the age of 41, my husband left me for a ww-year-old girl while I was in my first year of law school and had 3 kids to support. We never got a word or a dime from him. I finished law school, worked 2 jobs to obtain a student-loan free law degree, graduated valedictorian of my class and have been practicing law ever since, putting two of my grandchildren through college, among other things. That Sara Palin has 5 kids also does not impress me -- particularly when she has a husband to support her political "hobby." Women all over the world work and take care of their families. She's nothing special in that regard, but she appears to be a special kind of prevaricator about her own past political actions. Sandra Stanley, heartlaw@lyahoo.com

    • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 09/03/2008 2:23:56 PM

      Is that the best you can come up with? She is running for Vice President, not President. Obama has a laundry list that will cripple what negativity you are saying about Palin. Look at the big picture lady, you sound like a whiner!

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 2:38:51 PM

        What does Obama's laundry have to do with anything?

        • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 09/03/2008 5:57:42 PM

          It's dirty....Real dirty...like the Democratic Party!

    • Posted By: fuguewriter @ 09/03/2008 2:40:50 PM

      I agree. It looks to me like Palin has lied about most everything. Where have we seen that before? Oh, yeah, for the last eight years.

  • Posted By: Young Hickory @ 09/03/2008 4:47:53 PM

    How can you say that this public woman's family is off limits when proposes laws to impose her version of family planning on millions of private Americans. When she keeps her laws off our bodies then we will lay off of her. She is a classic example of big government intrusion.

    • Posted By: Middlecrass @ 09/03/2008 5:54:49 PM

      That's probably the best reasoning I've heard for digging into politicians lives.

  • Posted By: AnjaHelmon @ 09/03/2008 5:50:21 PM

    I think many of the comments below are missing the point. This article isn't about whether Palin should be VP or not - it's about whether she should be criticized for choosing to run for VP when she has a family with issues. I can't agree with Deveny more. If this was a guy running for office, I don't think anyone would be criticizing his choice to run - they would assume that his wife is handling it. How many men do we all see leading very agressive and time-consuming careers, with a family, and without criticism? How many women? Why is it always the wife who's assumed to be responsible for family?

  • Posted By: Kuster Beaton @ 09/03/2008 5:36:45 PM

    After having made her 'Mom-ness', family life and womanhood the central rational for her selection, it is disingenuous for anyone in the McCain campaign to claim a sexist double-standard for Gov. Sarah Palin. They were prepared if not counting on her 'family-values' to persuade people to trust her, now they have to deal with people justifiably asking what those values really are. That she chose to put her daughter in the harmful glare of the media spotlight while she is going through what must be an extremely trying time speaks volumes about Gov. Palin's real family values. It is more than reasonable to question whether any man with the same credentials would ever be put a heart-beat away from the red button. Likewise, it is fair to assume that after decades of listening to right-wing pundits rail against the poor family values of minority groups with high teen-pregnancy rates, Obama's fatherhood would most certainly been called into question had his daughter become pregnant. There is a double standard, but it's the Republicans and John McCain who are guilty of it.

  • Posted By: Kuster Beaton @ 09/03/2008 5:36:23 PM

    After having made her 'Mom-ness', family life and womanhood the central rational for her selection, it is disingenuous for anyone in the McCain campaign to claim a sexist double-standard for Gov. Sarah Palin. They were prepared if not counting on her 'family-values' to persuade people to trust her, now they have to deal with people justifiably asking what those values really are. That she chose to put her daughter in the harmful glare of the media spotlight while she is going through what must be an extremely trying time speaks volumes about Gov. Palin's real family values. It is more than reasonable to question whether any man with the same credentials would ever be put a heart-beat away from the red button. Likewise, it is fair to assume that after decades of listening to right-wing pundits rail against the poor family values of minority groups with high teen-pregnancy rates, Obama's fatherhood would most certainly been called into question had his daughter become pregnant. There is a double standard, but it's the Republicans and John McCain who are guilty of it.

  • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 4:38:50 PM

    Ah, Forrest Gump was right. 'Stupid is as stupid does'. Those who think it is fair and equitable to bash a woman for another person's mistake will not see the light of day if they were standing on the sun.

    Judge not lest ye be judged.

    • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 4:41:55 PM

      Hmm, so by your standards: it's ok to criticize and question a man running for office, but not ok to question a woman doing the same? Thats much more sexist and double standard.

      • Posted By: Twim @ 09/03/2008 5:30:51 PM

        Now we want to say Judge not lest ye be judged. Where was all of this understanding when Hillary and Obama were being questioned? Now taped recordings of Gov. Palins staffers speak on the phone with the guy that she fired. He is clearly saying that she wants to know what is being done, her family wants to know why this man still has his job, She and Todd are worried about a Gov. having to take the stand in a divorce trial cause it want look good and that the Palin family will be glad to hear that the issue is going to handled.

      • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 4:46:39 PM

        No not what I said.

        it is fine to question her on her qualifications - and vetting her experience. It is not fine to bash her for a choice her daughter made.

        • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 5:08:38 PM

          It doest matter to me what is going on with her family; but McCain wanted a big suprise right? Well did he provide anything for the shocked media to talk about in terms of her policy and governing agenda? No, he had her disclose that her daughter was pregnant. Who cares, why would she say that, and not answer questions about her qualifications?
          Plus, who's been ripping her daughter? Certianly not the Obama camp; so whats your point here?

      • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 4:48:03 PM

        Guess what I am saying is that Palin didn't strip Bristol naked and stake her to the bed so the boyfriend could 'ravage' her. Given that - what is going on here is not questioning issues and policy - it is a witch hunt.

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