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  • Posted By: c_wood @ 09/03/2008 3:21:41 PM

    This is not about Ms. Palin's daughter, this is about the hypochrasy that Ms. Palin lives by. She preaches abstinance, but her own underage teenage daughter is pregnant and unmarried. She preaches against government waste, but diverted millions of federal money to her own town and has asked for nearly $200 million this year in federal earmarks even when Alaska is flush with money from oil revenue. She preaches honesty and integrety, but is currently being investigated for firing a state worker for refusing to dimiss her ex-brother in-law. She preaches patriotism, but her own husband was part of a political party that supported succeeding Alaska from the union. She preaches good Christian values, but again her husband was arrested for driving under the influence. She preaches shaking up the system, but it was her own political party, the Republicans, she shook up in Alaska. And all this has come up in only a few days. The fact that her family has been wrapped up in this is her own fault. She has the oddacity to preach to others how they should live their life and what "good moral values" are, but her and her family don't even follow what they preach. Nobody can stand a polical hypocrate, and she can't blame anybody but herself for this fiasco.

    • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 3:26:45 PM

      Her daughter's pregnancy is not Palin's hypocrisy. Palin shows INTEGRITY by doing as she says - supporting life and a pro-life stance by supporting Bristol's pregnancy and choice to have the baby.

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 3:31:50 PM

        It shows that abstinence-only is stupid policy. This is something that studies have long shown but the general public may not have been aware of. For highlighting the failure of this policy, we should give Palin credit.

        • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 3:41:46 PM

          Not any more stupid than sex ed; daycare at high school and free birth control. Just ask Gloucester, MA - 17 pregnant teens in one year - oh the triumph of the sex ed policy of the left!

          Amazing.

          • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 3:48:34 PM

            At least they had the opportunity to use contraceptives.

            Did you know that teens that take an "abstinence pledge" have the same pregnancy rate as teens that don't, and they have a higher rate of STDs. This is facts that the right can't run from. Luckily, Palin comes along to underline the point.

            • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 4:31:39 PM

              So, that shows that having condoms shoved at you is a better solution? Listen to yourself man - you don't make sense.

            • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 3:58:04 PM

              Yes!! Check out the statistics conservatives. Those girls taking the "abstinence pledge" are 60% more likely to engage in oral and anal intercourse. The abstinence is the answer crowd has driven high school girls into porn style sex; great outcome.

          • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 3:48:37 PM

            Yeah, so whats your solution, other than trying to pin the tail on the donkeys? If a teenager wants to get pregnant than no amount of education will help. Palin's daughter doesn't fal into that category, shes a young lady with an unfortunate situation to deal with, and shes doing it remarkably well in light of 300 million people observing her. What does that have to do with sex education though?

      • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 3:37:47 PM

        Please, its not hypocrasy or integrity; it's a teenager who got prenant by accident. Trust me, it happens in almost every high school in America. This doesnt make Sarah Palin a better or worse candidate; it doesn't make her a hero or a villan, and it sure as hell doesnt make her more knowledgeable on any of the issues that face our country. Obamas camp isn't talking about this, McCain's camp is the one making this into a freaking sideshow, and the press eats it up, because its flashy and easy. Nothing sells to the press like sex and scandal, even if it doesn't actually exist in the situation. Press, follow the damn race; McCain camp, shut the hell up; Obama camp, do... well, whatever the hell it is you're doing right now; and comment board posters, get a grip and study some god damned issues that will really affect this country.

  • Posted By: mcchessp @ 09/03/2008 12:13:43 PM

    As a mother of an 11-month old (my first), I was quite suprised by my reaction to Sarah Palin. I had a very strong negative reaction to seeing her very young, special needs baby at a political rally after having been flown all the way from Alaska to Ohio. This was my primary concern. The issues of her 17-year old daughter wasn't even factored in, but of course, I've never raised a teenager. I don't like that fact that I judge her compitancy as a VP, based on this stuff, but its not really a brain thing but a heart thing - a mother thing. I don't think that I am trying to feel better about my own choices (I work part-time), I am just having a heart-felt reaction. It's the same feeling I have when I see sick or abused children on TV, as a mom I just can't stomach it anymore because it every child you see in need or hurting - you see your own child.

    I'm not saying that Sarah Palin cannott have it all or should not try. I just don't want to watch her for 4 years as VP and have my heart constantly breaking for her children. I would feel the same way if it were a man candiatate in the same circumstances. Children need mom and dad. But I do think they need mom a little bit more. I'm not a Mommy-warrior, I'm just a mom first.

    Obama-Biden 08

    • Posted By: hkmcs @ 09/03/2008 4:30:24 PM

      Your "heart-felt reaction" could just be based on your life choices, namely about parenthood. i'm not saying i know you better than yourself, but stating an opinion based solely on your feelings is just the issue that women get pushed aside by men. Americans are electing a president, who should be a competent and empathic leader. If s/he has shown that ability, his/her privacy is just his/her privacy, and none of everyone else's business.

  • Posted By: c_wood @ 09/03/2008 3:21:20 PM

    This is not about Ms. Palin's daughter, this is about the hypochrasy that Ms. Palin lives by. She preaches abstinance, but her own underage teenage daughter is pregnant and unmarried. She preaches against government waste, but diverted millions of federal money to her own town and has asked for nearly $200 million this year in federal earmarks even when Alaska is flush with money from oil revenue. She preaches honesty and integrety, but is currently being investigated for firing a state worker for refusing to dimiss her ex-brother in-law. She preaches patriotism, but her own husband was part of a political party that supported succeeding Alaska from the union. She preaches good Christian values, but again her husband was arrested for driving under the influence. She preaches shaking up the system, but it was her own political party, the Republicans, she shook up in Alaska. And all this has come up in only a few days. The fact that her family has been wrapped up in this is her own fault. She has the oddacity to preach to others how they should live their life and what "good moral values" are, but her and her family don't even follow what they preach. Nobody can stand a polical hypocrate, and she can't blame anybody but herself for this fiasco.

    • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 3:25:18 PM

      "She preaches good Christian values, but again her husband was arrested for driving under the influence."

      In his YOUTH. Ever do something in your youth you were embarassed about? Ever make a serious mistake?

      No? Okay, Mary, mother of God - I guess you are perfect.

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 3:32:34 PM

        The right preaches morality and can't live up to it. Welcome to the real world folks. They should just stop pretending they have the "moral high ground" and debate policies on the merits.

        • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 3:39:41 PM

          Morality includes compassion - which Palin is exhibiting. It includes honesty - another Palin trait given her announcement of this issue. It includes integrity - doing what you say you will - again her actions support this. Morality includes humanity - espoused by choosing to have the child. Morality includes courage and perseverance; kindness and generosity - all these things have been observed in action in Palin's behavior.

          • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 3:50:04 PM

            Morality includes empathizing with people who aren't as fortunate as you, which includes the vast majority of pregnant teens. Her policies contain no empathy for those folks. This is not unlike Rush Limbaugh railing against drug users and it turns out he was hopped up on Oxycotin. Hyprocisy by any other name.

            • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 4:28:16 PM

              Oh, they do.

              Conservatives will be the first to give aid to someone in need - and indeed donate more than liberals who think it is the government's job. However, there is a difference between a hand out and a hand up. I do not support welfare - everyone who has a family to support can gte a job.

              We advocate subsidizing those with initiative and ambition - not those sitting home watching Oprah crying "poor me".

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 09/03/2008 3:56:12 PM


    In a one-one-one interview with CBS' Katie Couric, Cindy McCain says she Disagrees with Sarah Palin on Abortion:

    COURIC: Some, even Republicans seem surprised that Senator McCain picked a running mate who opposes abortion even in-- in the cases of rape and incest and believes creationism should be taught in schools. And I'm just curious, do you believe--or do you agree with that?

    MCCAIN: What I agree with is the fact that she is a social conservative, she is a reform minded woman, she is someone that will shake the-- the-- Washington up, which is exactly what we wanna do. We differ on many issues, we differ with-- across the board with people. We don't have to agree on every issue.

    COURIC: Abortion has suddenly become, again, a hot button issue, because of her--

    MCCAIN: I think to you all it has--

    COURIC: Well, I think probably, at least, it's reported that a lot of people are now talking about this. And I-- where do you stand on abortion?

    MCCAIN: I'm pro-life, I'm on the record as being pro-life, like my husband.

    COURIC: So, do you oppose it even in the cases of rape and incest?

    MCCAIN: No.

    COURIC: No? So, that's where you two differ--

    MCCAIN: Uh-huh (AFFIRM).

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    • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 4:04:37 PM

      She is the most socially conservative republican to take the stage of this whole campaign cycle; do you really have to ask why the democrats don't like her. If Pat Robertson was the VP candidate, democrats would hate his views as well. It is all about her vagina, is that your theory GOP? Bullsh*t, its about her views on abortion, gay rights, supreme court restructuring, ultra -religion, and contempt for scientific progress.

      • Posted By: Omaar @ 09/03/2008 4:26:06 PM

        CONSERVATIVE MY A!!

        THE GIRL IS IN PHOTO'S KISSING HER FEMALE COUSIN, DRINKING ALCOHOL AND SHE'S PREGNANT BY A YOUNG BOY, WHO SAYS ON HIS MY-SPACE PAGE "I DON'T WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN" AND "I'M A RED-NECK" ALSO THERE IS GOING TO BE FORCED TO HAVE A POLITICAL "SHOTGUN WEDDING" BECAUSE OF HIS PREGNANT GIRLFRIEND'S MOTHER, IS RUNNING FOR THE VP OF THE USA...PUH-LEASE

        WATCH THEY PUT ON A SHOW...OR ANNOUNCE THEY'VE MARRIED OR WILL BE MARRIED SOON !!

        THIS BEHAVIOR FROM THE STEREO TYPICAL REPUBLICAN MACHINE, IS SOMETHING THATS RELEGATED TO THE DEMOCRATS.

        KNOWING THATS A DAMN LIE AND ALL POLITICAL PARTIES AND SOCIAL CLASSESS HAVE THIS PROBLEM...

        THE REPUBS. HAVE LABELED THIS A DEMOCRATIC PARTY FORM OF BEHAVIOR.

        YET WHEN YOU HIDE THIS GIRLS PREGNANCY BY HAVING HER HOLD HER DOWN SYNDROME CHILD, WITH A LONG WHITE TOWEL, WHEN ALL SHE HAD TO SAY IS, MY DAUGHTER IS 5 MONTHS PREGNANT, IT STINKS OF A COVER UP.

        THE 17 YR OLD GOT PREGNANT AND SHE IS SUPPOSE TO HAVE MORAL CHARECTER AND UPHOLD WHAT SHE ESPOUSE TO OTHER YOUNG UN-WED MOTHERS.

        THATS THE CULTURE OF THOSE ALASKANS, THEY ARE IN NO DIFFERENT THEN THOSE LIVING IN THE APPALACHIAN MOUNTAINS OR THE OZARKS...

        THEY

  • Posted By: ladyprof @ 09/03/2008 4:25:31 PM

    I think anyone, male or female, must consider taking on only the responsibilities they can competently handle. This includes balancing family and work. If you wish to have a high pressure, high profile, highly consuming career, then maybe lots of kids isn't such a great idea. I think we feminists realized long ago that as attractive as it might seem, NOone gets to 'have it all'. And before you jump down my throat, I am a single mother who chose to limit my career aspirations (I'm a college professor, not an administrator as I might have liked) because I felt an obligation to be good at all I attempted.

  • Posted By: rube @ 09/03/2008 3:30:21 PM

    The Palin child???s family situation is a microcosm of the difference between the two idealologies-

    education vs. abstinence

    evolution vs. creationism

    diplomacy vs. arbitrary war

    intelligence vs. narcissism

    science and liberty vs. right-wing self righteousness

    The GOP know as the party of family values is no longer! You only have to go to its leader George W Bush to know why- it was Bush that killed the GOP party no one else! The hypocrites are among us they are the neocons!

    Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin
    The choice is more clear than ever!

    • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 3:51:59 PM

      education vs. ignorance? I doubt ANY teen taught abstinence is ignorant. This is 2008 - not the middle ages. Also, biology class is pretty educational.

      Narcissism ? Pot, meet kettle. Obama is the epitomy of narcissism.

      Family values are not missing in the R party - they are strong - much stronger than the belief that a baby is a punishment.

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 4:05:28 PM

        The right does believe that babies are punishment. That's why they want naughty girls who spread their legs to be punished for their indiscretion by having a baby. Contraception prevents that punishment and thus goes against their desire the make sluts pay.

        • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 4:24:06 PM

          ????Are you for real? The right is supporting this girl and exhibiting compassion (another moral by the way) for her and the choices she faces.

          How is this consistent with your statements?

  • Posted By: SJSK @ 09/03/2008 2:57:27 PM

    It's not the gender it's the timing. I would question a male candidate's choice to run for Vice President with so many potential distractions in his personal life. VP is not just any job. It's one that will have to come before family much of the time. There are times in everyone's life when this is easier to accomplish and easier for family to deal with. This is what is hard for many of us to reconcile.

    • Posted By: delawaremom @ 09/03/2008 4:07:26 PM

      I hope that you had the same concerns when John Edwards was running for president - how can a man possibly run the country while dealing with a terminally ill wife and 2 small children at home???

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 4:21:54 PM

        Here's a clue: He didn't win. We nominated Obama instead.

  • Posted By: dale08 @ 09/03/2008 4:21:53 PM

    My issue has nothing to do with whether a woman stays home or works---that's a personal choice. But as a mother of 2 daughters and a former VP of small college, I know that sacrifices have to be made on one side or the other and everyday presents a new challenge. We are not talking about an upper level management job here---we are talking about the Vice Presidency of the most influential country in the world. And we are not talking about the challenges of getting the kids to soccer practice on time...we are talking about a mother with a 5 motnh old child with serious medical/mental issues AND a pregnant 17 year old daughter...this is a FAMILY with special needs. So my issue goes to Sarah Palin's judgement---is this how she sets priorities? Just because she CAN doesn't mean she SHOULD.

    Dale

  • Posted By: paproudmom @ 09/03/2008 3:34:03 PM

    For someone who is just becoming known as a candidate it is amazing to me that so many postings claim to know exactly how she feels and all her political stands. Maybe we all need to take a deep breath and hear what she has to say tonight. Being an intelligent female means getting all the facts first. To often we rush to judge and react in a partisan way. Also, being a feminist does not mean that you have to be pro-choice. Many feminist hold pro-life views. We need to become much more balanced in looking at a candidate.

    • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 3:45:49 PM

      Amen and well-said.

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 4:20:49 PM

        Amen. I can't wait to hear about her stands. I can't wait to hear what McCain's camp's been telling her to say.

  • Posted By: StellaZ @ 09/03/2008 3:38:10 PM

    Since I'm not a pundit or journalist, just an average observant (female) citizen, I will state the obvious: John McCain's advisor's picked Sarah Palen precisely to create all this controversy ie,Mommy Wars, sexist charges. It is so clearly tokenism that I am surprised that feminists aren't expressing outrage at McCain's blatant objectification of this woman; just as he objectifies his wife. They saw what happened when Geraldine Ferraro cried 'sexism' to deflect her racist comments and how successfully it galvanized Hillary's base, so their naked intent to create that kind of drama again is absolutely apparent. I am certain that the fact that their teenage unwed daughter is pregnant only improved her chances, so they can also cry foul if any one dares to comment on a candidate's child. The McCain camp is counting on all this drama and carefully crafted opportunities for crtiticism, not only fo the rachet up the debate but the fake outrage. Oh yes, and who's talking about the issues? Only Obama and Biden, that's who. It's kitchen sink time again! Give me a break!

    • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 3:45:14 PM

      Hmm....but Pawlenty - another state governor - wouldn't be token-ism? Reaching at best.

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 4:18:46 PM

        What would he be a token for? Scandinavians?

  • Posted By: dawgluvher @ 09/03/2008 3:40:36 PM

    How Palin governs her family is fair game because it can give insight to her decision-making abilities in governing the country. Just as I would not want a Vice President that was mis-managing the families finances, over-extended with credit, or recently filed bankruptcy. If they couldn't manage their own financial affairs, what would lead be to have confidence that they could manage the country's economy? It would not make sense.

    • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 3:43:30 PM

      ????? There is no mismanagement of funds. There is a teen who made a MISTAKE. Ever make one?

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 3:46:11 PM

        The teen isn't the issue. It's Palin far right-wing policies. Her teen's pregnancy is just beautiful irony.

        • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 4:06:27 PM

          Irony? It is a teenage mistake. Something I am sure everyone can find in their past (a mistake - not necessarily this same mistake).

          A mistake doesn't constitute freedom to crucify a person. Neither does a mistake mean your parent is not qualified for a job.

          • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 4:18:10 PM

            It's incredible irony, similar to the revelation that Rush Limbaugh was a drug-addict, Ted Haggard, Larry Craig, and Mark Foley are gay etc. etc.

            The pregnancy doesn't shed light on her qualifications, it shed light on her Victorian, discredited right-wing social policies.

      • Posted By: dawgluvher @ 09/03/2008 3:45:23 PM

        Didn't say there was a mismangement of funds...I was providing an example.

        • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 4:04:46 PM

          An off point example.

  • Posted By: tdn0024 @ 09/03/2008 4:14:27 PM

    Ambient sexism? Slow down.

    Women have told me that Bill Clinton is a huge turn on, or a sleaze.

    Mitt Romney. John Edwards. Their hair gets comment on all the time.

    I don't think you see much comment about Dianne Feinstein, Elizabeth Dole, or Christine Todd Whitman's looks. Or McCain or Giuliani. Because their competent demeanor is obvious.

    Biden said Obama was good looking. Now he says Palin is good looking. Biden thus commits a Kinsley gaffe: telling the truth in politics. Marketing is a big part of any sale. Physical looks are a big part of marketing. (JFK took sweaty Nixon to town... it matters) A quick look at Biden makes it clear he has invested a lot in his grooming as part of his self-selling package. He admires Obama and Palin in this regard.

    If Hillary had stuck to one look over the years like men do, no one would have commented.

    Evidence: I still remember the media reporting President Carter switching his hair part from one side to the other.

    Hillary endlessly changes her hair style. She calls attention to it, then whines about it. And she pulled Michael Milliken's old trick of ditching the power suits to wear frumpy clothes while pitching middle America.

    The person who is most consistent about mixing sex and politics in our media is Maureen Dowd at the NYT. She has been going on about Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld testosterone for years. And she has been quick to jump on the Palin story, which is right up her alley.

    The day women tone back their grooming to the level of men, and keep to consistent understated clothes, and modest hair, this will die away. And the day women's comments (as this author notes) stick to competence and issues (instead of, for example, Ms. Dowds' attempts to weave sex into her armchair psychology) , things will advance nicely.

    Gwen Ifill, the nation needs you!

    The day women who write these stories note that women, like male peacocks, go out of their way to call more attention to their looks then do human males, we'll have a better starting place for all this.

  • Posted By: kreitner @ 09/03/2008 3:58:28 PM

    Palin is just what this country needs. People say it's only Alaska, how big of a state does to have to govern to shut them up. She is next door to Russia..come on folks get a grip!

    • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 09/03/2008 4:11:33 PM

      What an idiotic thing to say - she is next door to Russia? So by proxy she has foriegn policy experience? Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds- next door to Russia I am laughing my ass off. You go ahead and vote for your 72 year old 2 time cancer survivor and 2 year governer of Alaska.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 09/03/2008 4:11:05 PM

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/?scp=1&sq=todd%20palin%20member%20of%20an%20alaskan%20seccessionist%20group&st=cse

    Sarah Palin's Husband Todd Palin, was a 7 Year Member and Attended Some Meetings and gave a Video Support of the Organization as Governor of alaska...She's in it and her husband...Poor Vetting and Poor Selection as VP...Period
    -------------------------

    Alaska Party Official Says Palin Was Not a Member

    By The New York Times

    The chairwoman of an Alaskan political party that advocates a vote on the state???s secession from the union said Tuesday that she had been mistaken when she said Gov. Sarah Palin was a member of the group.

    A front-page story in The New York Times on Tuesday and articles in other news media reported that Ms. Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party for two years in the 1990???s.

    COVER UP, COVER UP, The information in the Times article was based on a statement issued Monday night by Lynette Clark, the party???s chairwoman, who said that Ms. Palin joined the party in 1994 and in 1996 changed her registration to Republican.

    On Tuesday night, Ms. Clark said that her initial statement was incorrect and had been based on erroneous information provided by another member of the party whom she declined to identify. The McCain campaign also disputed the Times report, saying that Ms. Palin had been registered consistently as a Republican.

    COVER UP, COVER UP: After checking the party???s archives, Ms. Clark said that she could find no documentation that Governor Palin had been a member of the party. She said Ms. Palin attended the party???s 1994 and 2006 conventions and provided a video-taped address as governor to the 2008 convention.

    Ms. Clark said that Ms. Palin???s husband, Todd, was a former member of the party.

  • Posted By: jake2485 @ 09/03/2008 4:08:20 PM

    I agree with much of what you say about double standards among male and female parents. I disagree, however, that we should "cut her some slack" for leaving behind five children, including one that is four months old and has special needs and another that is a seventten year old daughter that is, herself, expecting a child and no doubt needs the regular and daily support of a mother... AND her father. All parents, - male AND female, should be sensitive if placed in this situation and Palin is really selfish and (to me) irresponsible in running off to campaign for national office under suhc circumstances. Coupled with the stories of how she handled her most recent labor, and in light of her political positions on issues of abortion, family, etc., the media scrutiny is entirely appropriate. Neither my mother nor my father would have left me behind in such circumstances, and I do not think it sets a good example for others by her doing so.

  • Posted By: bcrawf2033 @ 09/03/2008 3:08:39 PM

    While I empathize with Palin's daughter's situation, her pregnancy(ies)? may be the very evidence we need as a reflection of the instability in that home environment. Some women use work as a way out of reality. An excuse from being a wife and mother. Work is where they have power, control and get their kudos from bosses and co-workers. If she is willing to leave a down-syndrome child with no conscious as to the effect on the child, I doubt she would care much for the other children in our Nation. I don't care if she does have money for a Nanny, it's the principle that she doesn't mind shoving off her responsibility on someelse while, she gets her ego stroked.

    I want the facts about how she went from mayor to governor so quickly and these incidents of firing the commissioner who was her brother-in-law. It sounds to me like the woman is corrupt. I'm sorry! I'm a woman, and I do support women candidates. But put someone in position we can be proud of as women. She doesn't have a clue how to help poor or minority women, or our chidren, She's will use women's groups to get where she wants to go, and if she gets in office, she will forget women's groups even exist. Not all women are ready to be President of the U.S.

    • Posted By: delawaremom @ 09/03/2008 3:58:18 PM

      Absolutely!!!! Anyone who goes too quickly from one elected office to another one is most definitely corrupt - gosh - just imagine what would happen if a 1st term senator had the audacity to think he could actually be the President????????????????

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 4:07:51 PM

        Then we'll have the best president in over a generation. I can't wait until November.

    • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 09/03/2008 3:14:23 PM

      Instability in the home environment? LOL

      So - every family with a pregnant teen is experiencing 'instability'? Oh, be careful what you ask for or judge! Life has a way of handing out irony when least asked for.

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 09/03/2008 3:37:03 PM

        Every teen pregnancy represents a failure. If my teen daughter became pregnant in high school, I certainly would feel that I failed, rightly so.

  • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 4:06:04 PM

    She is the most socially conservative republican to take the stage of this whole campaign cycle; do you really have to ask why the democrats don't like her. If Pat Robertson was the VP candidate, democrats would hate his views as well. It is all about her vagina, is that your theory GOP? Bullsh*t, its about her views on abortion, gay rights, supreme court restructuring, ultra -religion, and contempt for scientific progress.

  • Posted By: midwesternmomma @ 09/03/2008 4:03:54 PM

    Divide and conquer- she's a cheap ploy by the scared Republican's to "rally the stupid" . I'd be offended as a Republican woman that she was deemed as the best the party had to offer. There are more experianced women in the Republican party and they would have been better served putting a veteran like Condolezza Rice on that ticket- but I guess she's just link them to the truth which is with McCain it's more of the same.....hmmmmm

  • Posted By: Tommypie @ 09/03/2008 3:52:57 PM

    All this criticism of Governor Palin stems from the sense that "she is not one of us". That's the problem with the leftists: she really isn't one of "them". She is pro-life, a social conservative, a life time member of the NRA, and the list goes on. And, that leaves a bad taste in the mouths of most liberals. So this is what we get: innuendos, wild rumors, requests for DNA tests,, etc. It is sickening. To be fair in this witch hunt, sock it to Obama for a while. I'll bet he has a lot of skeletons in his closet, but nobody would ever know. It is all swept under the rug. But Sarah Palin is free for all.

    • Posted By: jjla01 @ 09/03/2008 4:03:38 PM

      "a life time member of the NRA, and the list goes on. And, that leaves a bad taste in the mouths of most liberals." Of course they are! They're judging her on her political views not how many kids she has.

    • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/03/2008 3:54:45 PM

      Yes, the liberals disagree with her social views, not her gender. Get a grip, cause thats they way it'ssupposed to be.

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