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  • Posted By: dragonspray @ 09/04/2008 3:12:44 PM

    KMP says: "Palin is plain and simple NOT experienced AT-ALL in Washinton must less foreign policy"

    Please explain to me (in detail, if you don't mind) exactly what Washington and foreign policy experience Governor Bill Clinton had when he ran for the TOP of the ticket in 1992? Take your time. I'll wait. (hint: going to the UK to protest the Vietnam War does NOT constitute foreign policy experience).

  • Posted By: marphilms @ 09/04/2008 11:42:43 AM

    I was a little worried about who I would have to vote for. Even though I am Democratic I will not and can not vote for Obama. He scares me, no he terrifies me. I liked McCain but he needed more than he had. He now has it. I really like all I have seen and hear about Palin. She is real people with real person's problems. As much as I like McCain; Palin will secure my vote for McCain. He picked a great running mate. All I want to say is you go girl. This 66 years old great grandma is all for you. Don't any of you think that Obama is a shoe in. We the woman of the US see something in Palin that we see in ourselves. She has strength, character, love, understand of problems, and knows how to go about learning about any problem area she my be week in. She is going to appeal to the American women, and the women are going to stand with her. Obama is going to lose a lot of women voters now, and some men too; after their wifes explain what a good choice Palin is. Palin brings it down to the voters level; we worry about our children; a pay check; health care. The programs women need in where Palin will be and where we will want her to be.

    • Posted By: chris123 @ 09/04/2008 12:27:14 PM

      You really need to check-up on your facts. For someone to be as old as you say you are and to express yourself the way that you do amazes me.

      • Posted By: Texas-conservative @ 09/04/2008 3:12:40 PM

        Why is that? Are 66 year olds unintelligent now?

  • Posted By: garyward @ 09/04/2008 2:21:32 PM

    She has no platform because she was not running for the position of President! Obama has a platform because he is running for President! Therefore, someone writes her speech and she is definitely good at giving one and she is and instant hit because she looks good giving the speech. This is why it seemed empty when her attacks on Obama makes no sense when has not previously applauded McCain nor has she said negative things about Obama prior to last night. She has previously applauded Ron Paul, but not McCain. So she is pretty much an empty bag of wind and everything she has done in Alaska has been luck.

    got this from a previous post: http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515517.html

    I???m a leader, please follow.

    Be verwy verwy quite, Repugs are hunting Dems!

    ??? gmania

    • Posted By: metzlerd @ 09/04/2008 3:11:29 PM

      And no not luck...
      http://my2bucks.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/a-letter-from-someone-who-has-known-sarah-palin-since-1992/

  • Posted By: ryan_spradlin @ 09/04/2008 3:11:01 PM

    You journalists are pansies. Her speech was really not THAT great. It wasn't bad either. I think they set the bar pretty low for her by talking her up as a small town PTA mom, etc... She is a politician and she doesn't deserve any additional scrutiny or slack than you've given any other politician. Talking about how great her speech was seems a bit like brown nosing. First off, it was nothing new. I didn't hear a single new idea or anything the least bit profound. So, let's not hail this as the coming out of some rock star. Let's be honest. She did a nice job at delivering a generic RNC speech filled with lots of attacks and very little substance. She did a very nice job for what it was. It was not an Obama speech. Love him or hate him... the dude can talk. As a matter of fact, a lot of Palin's speech was dedicated to pointing out that Obama could never live up to the elaborate messages of hope that he articulates.

    At this point, I'm pretty much ready to give him a shot. I would rather have a president who wants to try something new than a president who is happy with how things are. Being complacent given our current situation just seems a little out of touch for me.

  • Posted By: dragonspray @ 09/04/2008 3:10:42 PM

    KMP said: "John McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time (not a leader, a follower)."

    That's a lovely DNC talking point, isn't it? But are you aware (and mind you, this is a rhetorical question) that 1) Bush doesn't get a "vote"; and 2) 90% of the vote in Congress have vast bipartisan support (some even near unanimously)? Therefore, with a little research on your part, you would (to your chagrin) find that Barack Obama has voted with John McCain 90% of the time. And vice versa. Why? Because the only thing this current lame congress seems to bring votes to the floor for are things like National Cucumber Month.

  • Posted By: ryan_spradlin @ 09/04/2008 3:10:40 PM

    You journalists are pansies. Her speech was really not THAT great. It wasn't bad either. I think they set the bar pretty low for her by talking her up as a small town PTA mom, etc... She is a politician and she doesn't deserve any additional scrutiny or slack than you've given any other politician. Talking about how great her speech was seems a bit like brown nosing. First off, it was nothing new. I didn't hear a single new idea or anything the least bit profound. So, let's not hail this as the coming out of some rock star. Let's be honest. She did a nice job at delivering a generic RNC speech filled with lots of attacks and very little substance. She did a very nice job for what it was. It was not an Obama speech. Love him or hate him... the dude can talk. As a matter of fact, a lot of Palin's speech was dedicated to pointing out that Obama could never live up to the elaborate messages of hope that he articulates.

    At this point, I'm pretty much ready to give him a shot. I would rather have a president who wants to try something new than a president who is happy with how things are. Being complacent given our current situation just seems a little out of touch for me.

  • Posted By: NoWayNoHow @ 09/04/2008 3:10:19 PM

    Lets be honest here, McCain looks as if he is about to croak, and I certainly would be beyond embarrassed if this woman was representing my country across the seas. I don't know why people are praising her speaking skills, my six year old daughter sounds more intelligent than her. She brought her teen pregnant daughter and her soon to be son in law on stage with her up there promoting teen pregnancy as if she was in the Spears family. This is not the woman I want to ever run my country. She was making fun of Barrack because he went to an Ivy Legue school, excuse me Ms. Palin, but I think the majority of Americans want someone who is educated to run our country. Enough of you and the Bush years.

  • Posted By: garyward @ 09/04/2008 2:22:08 PM

    She has no platform because she was not running for the position of President! Obama has a platform because he is running for President! Therefore, someone writes her speech and she is definitely good at giving one and she is and instant hit because she looks good giving the speech. This is why it seemed empty when her attacks on Obama makes no sense when has not previously applauded McCain nor has she said negative things about Obama prior to last night. She has previously applauded Ron Paul, but not McCain. So she is pretty much an empty bag of wind and everything she has done in Alaska has been luck.

    got this from a previous post: http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515517.html

    I???m a leader, please follow.

    Be verwy verwy quite, Repugs are hunting Dems!

    ??? gmania

    • Posted By: metzlerd @ 09/04/2008 3:09:34 PM

      She's a step away from the Presidency! She would preside over the Senate. She has a platform, and what she stands for matters. You can't excuse her because she is a VP candidate.

      Did you learn nothing from Cheney?!

  • Posted By: Compassionate Dem @ 09/04/2008 3:09:24 PM

    Ah yes. What Republicans do best. Scream and deflect. They have absolutely noting to run on this November. AND CAREER DAYTRADER, IT SEEMS YOU HAVE BECOME RABID.

  • Posted By: plb1 @ 09/04/2008 3:07:52 PM

    Its amusing to me to hear so many liberals refer to Sarah Palin's speach as "sarcastic', "mean-spirited", and the like. She took a beating at the hands of the media which went into a feeding frenzy to discredit her in any way it could prior to her even being publicly introduced as the republican Vice-Presidential candidate. How do you feel she should have responded: by "making nice"? Or maybe by retreating to the powder room for a good cry?

    And if, in what must be your worst nightmare, she actually does become President of the United States someday, how would you like her to behave if our country is threatened or attacked? Like a leader with a backbone, or like a nice girl?

  • Posted By: saurak88 @ 09/04/2008 3:07:39 PM

    GIMME A BREAK! All she did was read a prepared BUSH statement from a teleprompter! How about discussing any relative issues! That's right, she does not know of any yet as the GOP has not told her what to say!

  • Posted By: Mariann Pepitone @ 09/04/2008 1:11:23 PM

    I see a lot of jealousy towards Palin after reading the comments but these are people that are going nowhere in life and hate the world because they can't accomplish any goals. They critizied what Palin's said in her speech, her family and her prenant daughter. Let me go on record these commentors couln't shine Palin's shoes and no doubt many of them have divorced parent's or are on drugs themselves and hate the fact that she accomplished more than they will in a lifetime. And when they talk about her daughter the internet just revealed how many young daddy's there are today which means young girl's are getting pregnant everyday of the week. Some at ages 14,15 & 16. I know that the majority of young people today are having sex and no matter what their mother's teach them the do the opposite so Palin's daughter is not the only one. Some pregnant teen's do not know who the father is and that is a joke. There must have been several men in that case.

    • Posted By: cwhite2008 @ 09/04/2008 3:04:42 PM

      I was one of those pregnant teens, and I do know who the daddy is and yes my Mom did make the daddy marry me! Back in the day when this happened to me, they weren't big on birth control or absenteeism, and you were looked at thru smokey glasses if you attempted to have a child out of wedlock. Times have come too far forward for us to be teaching our young people that it is now all good to become a teen parent because if you do, the teen daddy will marry you. Don't bite! I can tell you that although I am proud to be the mother of the child I had so young, I regret letting my mother force me into marrying a person whom I really didn't love! How could I? I was 17! That decision removed any opportunity I had to make other choices that could have probably benefited me and my baby more! That young man looked so....scared last night! He looked like a Moose caught in the Governor's gunsight! Run young man from the marriage thing because you can still provide for your child without being married to the mother!

    • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 09/04/2008 1:43:31 PM

      Gpv. Palin's daughter has taught her mother what responsible mothers have understood since the Year Dot: teenagers should not be expected or trusted to abstain.

      The birth control pill and condoms can easily be included in life skills classes so that teenagers are better prepared to avoid unplanned pregnancies.

      Regardless Gov. Palin's outspoken conservative religious views, the Bible has never been an effective
      prophylactic.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/04/2008 1:15:16 PM

      Do you cling to religion and guns?

      • Posted By: neocon @ 09/04/2008 1:18:03 PM

        Thats for Barry to decide. He's the expert on the bible and guns.

    • Posted By: Jack 8590 @ 09/04/2008 1:17:04 PM

      The problem with Palin isn;t that her daughter had sex. The problem is she is against sex education, for creationsism scicence, and says we should be teaching abstinence. Her daughter is fine....Palin is the on who is off the mark.

  • Posted By: private312 @ 09/04/2008 2:43:20 PM

    What you all fail to realize is that the culprits here are Kieth Oberman and Chris Matthews. You support Obama? Great. You support Hillary? Great. McCain? Great. Each person has his or her own opinion and one vote and that is the fairness we have in this country. But Oberman and Matthews present themselves as news reporters. They are there to report the news. They are not there to take a position and try to effect the outcome of any election. But that's what they unabashedly did. Hillary supporters screamed foul and Obama supporters turned a blind eye (as did McCain supporters in the primaries). But they continued to support Obama, and tear down Hillary Clinton with great bias. And doing that nightly and nationally certainly effected this election. And with Hillary getting 18 M votes any way, who knows how the primaries would have gone if Oberman and Matthews were actually reporting the news instead of manipulating the vote. In the most basic terms, they cheated. They cheated every American that voted out of having the system of elections work in a fair and unbiased way. So we are where we are. If Hillary would have won, you may have (most likely would have) Barack Obama as VP running. That ticket would beat McCain/Palin and we would have had 8 years of Clinton, with Obama as VP, and 8 years of Obama with another as VP. That's 16 years of a Democrat in the white house. If JM/SP beats BO/JB, then Palin will run against Hillary and having been in for 4 years, will have the better claim to experience and if she wins that is 12 years of Republicans in the White House. The effect on this country of this going one way or the other is monumental. And we have Oberman and Matthews to thank for cheating us out of our right to pick who we want. Yes, even Obama supporters should be pissed that these "newscasters" took a position for and advocated for a candidate under the guise of reporting. I hope all of you that don't think Oberman and Matthews cheated you enjoy the next 4 to 12 years of republicans in the white house, as they veto laws and appoint justices to the supreme court in the event Obama loses. Because there are two things for sure, Hillary/Obama would have beat McCain/Palin, and (something Oberman and Matthews apparently didn't learn in school)...cheaters never win. No Matter Who You Voted For or Who You Want to Win, Demand our NEWS Becomes NEWS again. TO OBERMAN AND MATTHEWS, HEY GUYS JUST REPORT THE NEWS, WE???LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. REALLY WE ARE SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE UP OUR MINDS ON OUR OWN.

    • Posted By: metzlerd @ 09/04/2008 2:52:40 PM

      Apparently you forgot the fact that Hillary courted Hanity and O'Reilly on FOX. I veiw both of them as worse than anybody at NBC in terms of presenting opinion as news or just plan changing the facts to suit an agenda.

      You can't just eliminate the NBC guys you don't like. FOX is a huge problem in politics, or we are for listening to them in the first place. It is one thing to have to do fact checking. It is another to have pseudo-news outfits running around counting on the fact that most people won't check the facts.

      • Posted By: private312 @ 09/04/2008 3:04:33 PM

        Let's see if this clears up things: Wikipedia:

        Keith Olbermann (born January 27, 1959) is an American NEWS ANCHOR, commentator, and radio sportscaster. He hosts Countdown with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC, an hour-long nightly NEWSCAST of five selected stories with commentary by Olbermann and guests.

        Sean Hannity (born December 30, 1961) is an American radio/television host, author, and conservative political commentator.

        ---------

        See if you look real close one is a NEWS ANCHOR who does a nightly NEWSCAST. One is a radio/tv HOST and CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL COMMENTATOR.

      • Posted By: private312 @ 09/04/2008 2:58:07 PM

        Hanity and O'Reilly on FOX (like Limbaugh on the radio) are NOT news reporters and nobody thinks they are. They are conservative TV talk show and radio show hosts. Obermann and Matthews espouse themselves to be news reporters. No offense intended, but the fact that you can???t tell the difference between these folks is the exactly the problem!

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/04/2008 2:46:23 PM

      Strong Clinton.

  • Posted By: margaretmm @ 09/04/2008 2:19:08 PM

    Sarah Palin was electrifying last night and I feel her speech was a masterpiece! I have been a McCain supporter from the beginning but her addition to the team is like icing on the cake! She is the real deal and I am so proud of John McCain for recognizing her talent.

    • Posted By: lvbartman @ 09/04/2008 3:00:37 PM

      and i'm sure you also loved spiro agnew, dan quayle, and dick cheney boy, can those republicans pick em!??

  • Posted By: JPuder2008 @ 09/04/2008 11:53:07 AM

    This was anything BUT original. She is old school alright, old and stale school. One day after Obama shows some decency in saying that her family is off-limits, she goes and attacks his wife. Nice. If I were Obama I would simply say Fine, that's how you want to play? If you are so into abstinance being the only birth control, why is your 17 year old high-school studend daughter pregnant? Is that family values? Is fighting against the corruption of politicians displayed by your gross over-stepping of bounds in Trooper-Gate? Please, this woman is trailer trash of the first order, just like the man that chose her to be his running mate.

    • Posted By: dsqard @ 09/04/2008 12:04:37 PM

      She is for abstinence, her daughter - not so much.

      • Posted By: Texas-conservative @ 09/04/2008 12:35:11 PM

        That's called liberty...
        You should embrace it.

        • Posted By: dsqard @ 09/04/2008 1:10:51 PM

          When was the last time you embraced a 17 year old unwed mother? I am not condeming the child, I am savoring the irony. If the 17 year old wasn't the daughter of Palin, do you think that any conservative Republican, to include Dr. Dobson would be crowing to the world about her and then saying respect her privacy? I actually feel sorry for her daughter because of the fact that everyone will be in her business for at least the next two months. Being 17, pregnant and unwed is enough stress she didn't really need the national spotlight on her.

          • Posted By: Texas-conservative @ 09/04/2008 2:17:17 PM

            Well, considering my daughter was born to a 17 year old mother (I as 18 at the time), I'd say I have a little experience with the subject. My daughter is now 20, unwed and pregnant. I do think it is unfortunate, but I don't critisize or condemn her. I support her and continue to try to guide her with my advice and assurance. There's no hypocracy there. That still doesn't change my position that abstenance is better advice than protection, although I believe both should be taught, with an emphasis on abstenance. I know teens will do what they choose to do; I sure did. I also know that if you give them an inch (permission), they will take a mile (have sex, treat sex as a more casual form of intimacy).
            I think that Palin should not be faulted because her daughter is pregnant and she chose to not hide it. It is much better for her daughter that way. I Governor palin makes it a negative issue and hides it, then it will be more of a media circus and will prolong the scrutiny her daughter endures. By embracing her daughter and not being ashamed of her, she has shown that she does take her family into consideration.

            • Posted By: dsqard @ 09/04/2008 2:59:45 PM

              Teaching about abstinence is fine but as you say, BOTH must be taught. I also understand about unwed, underage pregnant girls. My sister was one and my parents handled it the same way that Palin is handling her daughter's pregnancy. Teaching about protection does not infer permission to have sex. I also have a 17 year old daughter and speak to her about both. I stress more the side of protection though because of the fact that I was once a teenager and understand that no matter how many times you tell them not to, you can not stop them. I have no problem with abstinence but JUST abstinence does not work just as JUST protection does not work. You must be willing to talk about both, not ban one and hope that the other will work.

  • Posted By: redheaded blue girl @ 09/04/2008 2:31:42 PM

    I also have to say, that if Sarah Palin is supposed to 'resonate' with American women, she does. Oh she does. But not in the way Republcans would like. She reminds us all of the bubble-headed, conniving, and stuck-up prom queen that thought she was better than the rest of us. Think we'll vote for that? No how, no way!

    • Posted By: careerdaytrader @ 09/04/2008 2:52:52 PM

      There will always be women like you who are jealous a woman with more talent, more intelligence, more money, more success, more fame, a better and richer man, and of course more than anything a woman who is SOOOOOOOO MUCH HOTTER THAN YOU!

      Go spread your jealous drool someplace else nerd girl!

      • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 09/04/2008 2:59:13 PM

        Get a cold drink.

  • Posted By: RinD @ 09/04/2008 2:20:41 PM

    Palin says that the difference between a mayor and a community organizer is that a mayor has actual responsibility. Democratic partisans hear "Community organizers are worthless [various expletives have been used]."

    Wow. What you hear is as much a comment on your own insecurities as it is a comment on what was actually said. She didn't say community organizers were bad people or worthless - she said that unlike Obama, who was organizing communities, she was responsible for actual governing. Some of you may degrade that experience (saw something about Moose X-ing signs), but that just demonstrates that you disrespect people for being from small towns.

    • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/04/2008 2:24:17 PM

      Yeah pal, and Gulianni's comments as well, those were just to say, what? Don't be a tool, you know what the arrogant a-hole message that was being laid down was.

      • Posted By: RinD @ 09/04/2008 2:57:04 PM

        So that's all you've got? Call me names and use profanity because you believe that the theme of last night's speeches was ad hominem and personal attack?
        Do you even take yourself seriously?

  • Posted By: dragonspray @ 09/04/2008 2:56:42 PM

    I enjoyed the comment by "private312" and would like to add something to his/her comments: much has been said about the "nastiness" and "snarkiness" and "attacks" in Sarah Palin's speech last night. To hear some on the left talk, you'd think she was supposed to be giving a State of the Union speech. They are shocked at the partisan tone of her speech - stunningly oblivious to the fact that she's making a speech at the Republican National Convention. It's supposed to be partisan, just as the speeches given last week at the Democratic National Convention were wholly partisan. That's what the conventions are for. That being said, much of Palin's attacks were in reaction to what has been a week of relentless attacks on her character, including obscene questions about whether or not she is fit to be VP with five little 'uns at home. To be a stay-at-home mom or a career woman is a woman's choice and should NOT be criticized (hence, the criticism Hillary received back in 1992 when she made her infamous "teas and cookies" comment). To be fair, the attacks she lobbed with regard to the attacks on her character were appropriately lobbed at the media - where it belonged. Both Barack Obama and Joe Biden came out publicly and forcefully to denounce the kind of sexist and scurrilous attacks on her character and urged their supporters (including their supporters in the media) to abandon such sophomoric classlessness. Unfortunately, Obama's supporters have failed to follow their leader - which, in and of itself, is quite telling.

  • Posted By: Newcastle @ 09/04/2008 10:25:43 AM

    Will Palin PLEASE get rid of the little daughter attached to her hip? How obnoxious. If the child can't be away from her mommy maybe Palin will have a hard time campaigning and heaven forbid be the next VP. She needs to stay home and care for her 5 kids and the new grandchild - also teach the girls a little about having unprotected sex

    • Posted By: pachamama @ 09/04/2008 2:55:22 PM

      The daughter is attached to her hip because the poor child is scared! Imagine being thrown into that blender - terrifying for an adult let alone a child.

  • Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/04/2008 2:29:37 PM

    Ok, so her eit is: 40% now love her, 40% think shes a smug bitch, I guess the next two days will show how she was recieved by that last 20%.
    No bounce from her introduction , lets see if McCain (and i stress MCCAIN) will get one after this convention; hasnt happened yet. And the % of undecideds is going down by the week.

    • Posted By: careerdaytrader @ 09/04/2008 2:55:00 PM

      Polls BEFORE the debates mean nothing.

      We all saw how Obama got DESTROYED in the Saddleback forum. The same will happen in the next 3.
      Biden is ALREADY trying to lower expectations of himself and RAISE Sarah's expectations because he senses HIS A$$ whooping is ON THE WAY!

      Go John and Sarah - Educate these moron Democrats and wipe the FLOOR with their blood when you're done with them!

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