The latest and perhaps most disturbing evolution of clothing with suggestive phrases on the backside, and what schools are doing about it.
Comment: Help. Help me.
Help me, someone, please. I'm sick of seeing this junk on my friends. My only real friends are the ones who don't wear these stupid rags. But I don't give a care in the world whether the wearers are my friends or not. I don't want to see ANY of the infernal things. I would give so much to live in a (figuratively and literally) cleaner world.
Comment: Oops...I didn't know it had loaded. I'm sorry! It annoys me when I see the same thing posted three times...I'm really sorry....
I mess this kind of thing up all the time; trust me! Ha....
Comment: Help. Help me.
Help me, someone, please. I'm sick of seeing this junk on my friends. My only real friends are the ones who don't wear these stupid rags. But I don't give a care in the world whether the wearers are my friends or not. I don't want to see ANY of the infernal things. I would give so much to live in a (figuratively and literally) cleaner world.
Comment: Help. Help me.
Help me, someone, please. I'm sick of seeing this junk on my friends. My only real friends are the ones who don't wear these stupid rags. But I don't give a care in the world whether the wearers are my friends or not. I don't want to see ANY of the infernal things. I would give so much to live in a (figuratively and literally) cleaner world.
Comment: Well, Detroit's choice is rather over the top--I don't see a point in prohibiting green, brown, orange, red, purple or gray. Nor do I see anything wrong with collarless shirts, as long as there is nothing hanging out of the V-neck. But I'm tired of seeing all the gross, barely-there clothing that most of my peers wear. Not only does it make going out in public an eyesore, it also makes it difficult for me--a very modest person in terms of clothing--to find something that I can wear comfortably (in other words, something that is not sleeveless, not see-through, not too skimpy, not too long, not too short, and not emblazoned with logos of a company I do not support in any way.
It's time for America's parents to get a better grip on their kids and teach them what clothing is proper! My parents never left me in any doubt as to what is appropriate and what is not. I hope to goodness that the next generation will be able to say the same--but it seems that, at the moment, nothing short of a miracle is needed to do that.
Comment: I am a teacher, and I fully support a uniform and/or specific guidelines for students (and staff for that matter). When kids come to school, I personally do not want to see boxers, underwear, thongs, bras, cleavage, and other body parts falling out of clothes. And the kids were always quick to come back with, "Well, don't look!" Well, you know when you need help with homework or have a question about today's classwork and I'm kneeling by your desk answering your questions, I don't need to feel uncomfortable with the fact that something may be exposed.
School is a place for learning. It is also a place for young people to learn how to live and succeed in the outside world as a professional. One day you will hopefully have a job and most likely it will require you to dress professionally. If you're so inclined to wear your boyfriend's name on your rear or have your pants falling down to your ankles, do it on your own time. When you are in public places - school or otherwise - there are standards. And if you feel so restricted by dress codes, you can still glam it up with your personality. Add accessories, wear fun shoes. Keep it covered.
I am a young woman who teaches. I like to look nice and fashionable. But I keep it appropriate. I dress professionally, but I still keep up to date with fashion. When the students complain that they can't wear what they want to wear, I ask them, "Well, would you really want to see your teachers running around with cleavage or sagging pants?" They usually agree with a strong NO. And I feel the same way. I wouldn't want to see ANYONE like that in school.
So what.. From 8-3 Monday through Friday you have a dress code. Deal with it. Wear your juicy shorts later.
Comment: If only more parents felt the way you do, dreamrequest! When did people abrogate their parental rights and responsibilities and let their children take charge? I mean, do they really think that their 14 year old daughter, who thinks its cool to wear a pair of shorts with "Mikes Ass" on the back, is capable of making intelligent decisions? I am with you - don't complain about school policies regarding dress for your child when you are either incapable or just refuse to set boundaries and controls on your own children. This country has gone to hell in a handbasket and all people can do is point their fingers at someone else.
Comment: If only more parents felt the way you do, dreamrequest! When did people abrogate their parental rights and responsibilities and let their children take charge? I mean, do they really think that their 14 year old daughter, who thinks its cool to wear a pair of shorts with "Mikes Ass" on the back, is capable of making intelligent decisions? I am with you - don't complain about school policies regarding dress for your child when you are either incapable or just refuse to set boundaries and controls on your own children.
Comment: Ummm...this isn't new. I did this back in high school, and I had my 20-year class reunion a couple years ago.
Comment: ummm...this is not new, I was doing this in high school, and I had my 20-year reunion a couple years ago.
Comment: First - the person who wrote that idiocy about Friday dress codes needs to learn to communicate, drop the power need, or go work for the IRS.
What gets me are the parents who 'cause a kerfuffle' when someone tries to place controls or limits on how their children behave in public. I guess we're all supposed to put up with the monster that rules their house, huh?
I can't decide if they're worse than the parents who heave a sigh of relieve when someone DOES put controls on their kids - as in.. "I'm SO glad they made a rule that doesn't allow my Susie to wear clothes like THAT anymore"...
We complain about a crooked government but don't have the back-bone to do anything but complain. Same thing happens in our homes.
Try this... First, don't buy clothes for your kids to go to school that would be inappropriate for your work. School is a work place. Second, if they try the 'oh, that's not mine, it's my friends...blah blah blah..'... set a rule that clothing will be returned by you to the parent of that child.
oh wait. That would take time and effort as well as a backbone.
Comment: First - the person who wrote that idiocy about Friday dress codes needs to learn to communicate, drop the power need, or go work for the IRS.
What gets me are the parents who 'cause a kerfuffle' when someone tries to place controls or limits on how their children behave in public. I guess we're all supposed to put up with the monster that rules their house, huh?
I can't decide if they're worse than the parents who heave a sigh of relieve when someone DOES put controls on their kids - as in.. "I'm SO glad they made a rule that doesn't allow my Susie to wear clothes like THAT anymore"...
We complain about a crooked government but don't have the back-bone to do anything but complain. Same thing happens in our homes.
Try this... First, don't buy clothes for your kids to go to school that would be inappropriate for your work. School is a work place. Second, if they try the 'oh, that's not mine, it's my friends...blah blah blah..'... set a rule that clothing will be returned by you to the parent of that child.
oh wait. That would take time and effort as well as a backbone.
Comment: Thank god their parents pay for their vulgar clothing because I'm seriously questioning the ability of the next gen to cut the umbilical cord and aspire to something other than leach on their parents' wallets. It's shocking that parents would but upset that a school board wouldn't want students walking around with sexually explicit phrases and images while at school. I am only 24 but I remember when parents were upset that sex ed was an option to 5th and 6th graders... I think they are a little late because last night at work i had a 14 yr old 16 yr old and 18 yr old trying to sleep through their newborns crying.... but atleast 2 spoke english and hey I shouldnt be upset because when obama is elected EVERYONE gets healthcare even those who arent citizens.. oh wait they already do... from my middleclass taxes.... Hate to tell America but the rich are rich for a reason they know the loopholes because they pay people to find them to keep them rich... The only people that are going to pay for a socialist to be in office are the people losing their homes and filing bankruptcy everyday in the Greatest country in the world.... We're so great that a generation that knows nothing of the Cold War wants to put a man in office because he promises change (hasnt that been a campaign slogan since the dawn of democracy) Bottom line if parents want their children (under 18 you are still a child) to label their behinds and be walking STD's parents need to start footing the bill for children having children and homeschool their teens if they want their kids to have the grandbabies at home while their teens party
Comment: Thank god their parents pay for their vulgar clothing because I'm seriously questioning the ability of the next gen to cut the umbilical cord and aspire to something other than leach on their parents' wallets. It's shocking that parents would but upset that a school board wouldn't want students walking around with sexually explicit phrases and images while at school. I am only 24 but I remember when parents were upset that sex ed was an option to 5th and 6th graders... I think they are a little late because last night at work i had a 14 yr old 16 yr old and 18 yr old trying to sleep through their newborns crying.... but atleast 2 spoke english and hey I shouldnt be upset because when obama is elected EVERYONE gets healthcare even those who arent citizens.. oh wait they already do... from my middleclass taxes.... Hate to tell America but the rich are rich for a reason they know the loopholes because they pay people to find them to keep them rich... The only people that are going to pay for a socialist to be in office are the people losing their homes and filing bankruptcy everyday in the Greatest country in the world.... We're so great that a generation that knows nothing of the Cold War wants to put a man in office because he promises change (hasnt that been a campaign slogan since the dawn of democracy) Bottom line if parents want their children (under 18 you are still a child) to label their behinds and be walking STD's parents need to start footing the bill for children having children and homeschool their teens if they want their kids to have the grandbabies at home while their teens party
Comment: when I go to they gym, recently, one girl had a shift saying "help me find my g spot" "***" something and one girl had on a thong right in front of my on the stair climber...it was awesome while also being a sad commentary, this was at a college, yesterday a guy from a frat had a *** saying "don't be a ***, GET ***" on the front of his shirt in large letters..once again, awesome, but also inappropriate, and most likely unfortunately misleading....otherwise, I will join, and the girl never let me help her find her g spot either...so a bummer in both cases.....but the thong was nice....one time when I commented on the fact that a girl had a whole in her shorts and I could actually see her vagina, her boyfriend wasn't amused...I am able to hold my own, I guess I am young AND out of touch apparently at the same time, because you don't have to disrespect to GET LAID, but you do have to respect yourself to GET AHEAD or so I was thought and I have never had any problem getting laid, have never worn these shirts, as a rule I don't like displaying ads for other groups except for races which I have participated in, my local brewery has a shirt "beer with balls"; it is near cooperstown....
women who don't want to be treated as hookers still act, dress, and behave as hookers....southern girls are much hotter so I am not really tempted, and the tight clothes just looks like a sausage in casing....anyway, somebody starving won't differentiate....southern girls while wearing less clothes because it is hot as ()^ still have more self-respect...at least back in the day......(not too far back)....whatever.....git r dun...maybe I will be single again who knows??? then I probably will be out of touch...the gross old single guy at the bar ...anyway....if mccain/palin get in, women won't have any rights and guys can just club and drag em like in mccain's times....which once again will be awesome from one perspective but not so much from another....there are pros/cons to everything....
the very SAD thing is other countries which outperform us actually have uniforms and even separate schools for girls/guys to (shock) focus on learning.....we are all a bunch of dumb inbred hicks.....nothing shocks me anymore.....not even a backwards dum *()^ running for VP with sexed up preggie teens who says even rape incest does not allow any abortion...about as backwards as you can get and yet perhaps still represents some of the electorate in this cesspool...
Comment: Interesting that the girls would choose a word - ass - which also refers to a dumb and stubborn animal. Seems appropriate whether "Tim's Ass" is referring to her backside or to her as a dumb animal who is exploited by a sexualized society and overly-hormoned boyfriend.
Comment: Gee, I remember how people dressed in middle school in the late 60s and high school in the early 70s. This just shows how clueless adults are.
Comment: Today's girls take pride in looking like hookers. There is no dignity in this for our youth. Especially the short shorts that say "trash" or "brat" or whatever. Those are disgusting and should be outlawed from all schools. Porn should also be outlawed from the internet. It is too easy for kids to access it.
Comment: Mandatory school uniforms are the only way to go. It is being done more and more and with very positive results.
And please spare me the predictable whining about "expressing individuality".
Comment: Hear, hear! Expressing individuality...humph. I don't wear this junk, and I have no problems whatsoever expressing my (very strong) sense of individuality. That's what art, music, and creative writing are for.
Comment: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Young people already have it rough (I'd like to see one of the parents that posted last a day in high school), so just piling on more punishment isn't going to help. It'll just make people things even worse for us. In turn, we'll make things worse for the older generations. This police-state crap is really getting out of hand.
Comment: We don't have to have it rough, by the way. Though poor educational systems can contribute to the mayhem, most of the blame lies on the students. The kids who can't scrape an A make it hard for themselves. It's their own fault that they can't survive school; if they learned to behave they would have a much easier time.
Comment: I'm sorry, but I must disagree. My peers (I am a teenager, by the way, who HATES the kind of clothing in question) are becoming more and more corrupt each day. It is partially their parents' fault for not exercising control over them. But they do make their own choices about what to buy when they go out to the mall. (Of course, their parents probably give them money to go to the mall in the first place. It's a twofold connection. But that's not the issue I'm trying to express, so I'll let it go.) connection.If we are to defeat this problem, two things must be done:
a) Parents will have to GET A GRIP! They brought these kids into the world, and they ought to take responsibility for them.
b) Kids will have to be taught to obey and respect authority. Many are becoming insolent brats who bend to no will but their own. They think it's cool to show as much of their body as they can, to have cell phones virtually glued to their ears, to talk nonstop in fast, loud voices with as many curse words as they can possibly insert. They aren't the bosses yet, but they are the next generation and one day they will make up the voting/working body of the world. No matter how much punishment must be dished out, THIS MUST BE STOPPED NOW.
Some of you may not trust my judgment because I am a teenager myself. But you see, it is because I am a teenager that I get a different perspective than adults on other teens. I talk to my friends; I talk to girls my age at church or summer camp; and though I disagree with their views strongly, I still get an understanding of what they think is "cool."
I may not be a politician or a voter, but I know enough about my peers to tell that the idea of these kids determining the next president in a few years is not a nice one.
I shudder to think of what might happen to this already corrupt country if teens are allowed to go about like this.
Likely you've already picked it up, but I am one very strange eighth-grader.
Comment: I apologize for the typo in my last post ("twofold connection.)connection.) I had no way of scrolling up or down, even with the arrow keys, so I had to guess where the words were...and it seems that I had already typed "connection". Hopefully you still got my drift!
Comment: Oh yes, they have it sooooo rough; let's all cry a river for them.
Your limp-wristed suggestion (if you can even call it that) is evidently to do nothing at all. Yep, that will help a lot.
Comment: I graduated high school in 1990 and had a pair of shorts back then that had writing on the "bum". However, the length of the shorts was longer then. Now I am a mother of boys and a Sunday school teacher for young girls. I don't like how SHORT the shorts have gotten. The words may be an issue depending on what it says. I don't see a problem with "CHEER" or a school logo or whatever but why would a girl want to have their rear thought of as "JUICY" anyway? Yeah, I know it's a brand name but really.... I think dress codes are a good thing but I think parents should be allowed to vote on what is acceptable and whether they even want uniforms for each individual school. As in any good democracy, majority should rule. As for the jumpsuit concept, it's not necessary to humiliate children. The punishment should fit the crime. Wouldn't a basic pair of basketball type shorts be sufficient?
Comment: As a high school teacher, I see the problems that come from provacative clothing or branded clothing. I work in an area that is very economcially diverse. Although, I don't think uniforms are necessary because they hamper students' ablilities to express themselves; I think we should discourage wearing brands for the sake of begin branded or wearing suggestive clothing or sayings. It sounds crazy but having Juciy on the bottom of one girl in class can make her a target for more than just attention from boys. It draws attention to that area and to critisism.
Comment: What is funny these kids think they have started a new trend. Its all be done before. Checkout Stingbean, Earth girls r easy (for holes in pants), Daisy Dukes, and I was even watching a Gunsmoke the other day when I heard one on the characters say "Matt, I hate puttin a cap in some people".
Comment: Scotty01, I agree w/ you in that parents should "parent" their kids. However it does take a village to raise your kids to be respectful, decent humans. Even a good parent can't have her eyes on her kids all the time. It takesalot more energy if you are the only one saying no to the hooker clothes. If you feel its your right to dress like a hoochie, talk to one that's 20 and is stuck with 3 kids, no man and NO future.
Comment: I have reviewed several of the upset teens' responses, as well as a few that actually agreed w/ some of the dress codes. I am 50/50, I recall some pretty ragged stuff in my own closet as a teen, however, my butt wasn't branded, and my breasts were kept in the shade.At that time the school administrators had petty stuff to deal with compared to now. You have rapes, drug deals, gunshots, non diagnosed mental health issues..
Comment: Only Scotty why do you care if a girl wears something suggestive? If she wasn't wearing something suggestive would it make her a better student, or change who she is? Whether she is slutty or just dresses that way occasionally will it make her less of one if she wears a uniform?
There is your intelligent argument turtleegg900 and I'm fairly sure it's correctly punctuated. Also turtle, way to stay on task with the convo.
Comment: Wow. Maybe if you spent more time actually parenting your kids they wouldn't grow up being sluts. OWNED.
Comment: Wow. Perhaps if people in college spent a little more of their classtime paying attention to the classes themselves than to their classmates' clothing, they might actually know how to punctuate a sentence.
Comment: Yes, boys are too busy staring at the girl's shorts to pay attention to the teacher.
It at least cheers me up that most of the people here seem to be well-educated.
Comment: I think that it shouldnt be banned because its the new style just because your still living in the past doesnt mean that you need to destroy the future. I dont feel that these companies make these cloths to explote the young and elderly people but as a new style i approve of this because it also gives you something to look at during the passing periods of classes. as a student i would know its very NICE !!!!! to look at
Comment: Just because you have no idea how to dress with some class doesn't give you the right to dress slutty. Your comment about 'needing something nice to look at' btw only reinforces that it is suggestive and sexual. Way to go. *golfclap*
Comment: Stupid. Kids can wear anything they want, it is freedom. And what's with the hair thing? Guys look nice and comfortable in it. How does that effect anything? Personally, I think this is dumb. Seriously, banning things like this is going to make them more rebellious. But anyways, ONE time I saw a young fourth grader wearing a short that read: DANCE DEPOT.. That is a place isn't it? Yeah people staring, so what? -_-
Comment: Yes, Timberheart, it is a free country. But kids are not always able to make appropriate choices for themselves and others, which is (in my mind, anyway) why adults are in charge, NOT KIDS.
Comment: Personally, I think that it is perfectly fair for people of all ages to wear what they would like. There are things that are /appropriate/ for different ages, honestly, I can't imagine a 70year old woman wearing a short skirt and a low-cut top. However, that is partly because of when I grew up.
The idea that people are hurting people's individuality is concerning to me, I can see no real reason as to why people should be told what to wear at a PUBLIC school. If it is a PRIVATE institution, then it is perfectly appropriate for them to dictate what the students wear.
While I agree with some of the more simple dress-codes, as they are in place to keep people from becoming /too/ insane, I don't think adding colour and accessories is right.
Incidentally, at my High School, there was a dress code... no one followed it, no one got in trouble. The interesting thing is this; people stopped trying to wear things that were too provocative. Only in the beginning, the naive Freshmen, did people think they needed to wear those types of clothes.
To tell the truth, it doesn't matter what children or adolescents wear; they will be looked at by the opposite gender. Are they going to start regulating the breast size of some girls (thank you plastic surgery, that would be the only reason I could see this coming in to play) because the shirts that they were /told/ to wear are too tight fitting? It doesn't /matter/ in the least what people wear. A girl could come to school in her worst, most baggy clothes, or a nice skirt and a brilliantly classy top; boys and men will still look at her.
We can't stop hormones from raging, but that doesn't mean that teenagers are the 'horny little snot-nosed pricks' that it seems so many people are pegging them as. If the parents of a child have done such a horrible job as to make them think that it is okay, or to make them rebel to the point, of dressing like hookers early one; so be it. It is NOT the right, nor is it the responsibility, of any other person or group to mandate how those children dress. If there is a problem, the school/person should take it to the parents of the child and then they can handle it how they would like.
Honestly, some of these things are going too far. Do we really not trust the people who are going to be taking care of our world this much?
Just my quick thoughts on this.
Comment: schools have nothing better to do then come up with new ways to ban childrens clothes and restrict what they wear. some schools dont allow the guys the wear hats , but then the girls can is this fair you decide. but now they want to ban girls wearing juicy on their booty. why is that soo bad. if they want guys looking at their booties its their butt. like in this society, we are trying to control so many things by making dumb laws. so why not lets the kids wear what they want but have some restictions but not because it says something on them which is stupid any ways.
Comment: I recall going to school and seeing girls with the word's "Daddy's Girl" written on their butt. Anyone could have taken that the wrong way.. which is in fact a terribly wrong way. Too bad nobody ever told her it's the wrong way. =)
Comment: I recall going to school and seeing girls with the word's "Daddy's Girl" written on their butt. Anyone could have taken that the wrong way.. which is in fact a terribly wrong way. Too bad nobody ever told her it's the wrong way. =)
Comment: dear scotty01. How exactly can you blame rap music or sluttly clothing for someones bad grammar or spelling? Those two factors have absolutly nothing to do with ones grammar. It is as though you, yourself, have not done well in school if you find any sort of connection whatsoever. And if you like to point out spelling, please make sure to capitalize. Please take some time to think logically next time you want to try to bash the youth, thanks :)
Comment: Pedo.
Comment: Way to miss the joke genius. Just proves my point. And actually YES, rap music does indeed because a lot of it has anti-intellectual messages and images. A black man acting like a thug is cool but a black man with a book in his hand is acting "white". So actually maybe it is YOU who has the problem with thinking logically. I think you just like looking at young girls asses with "Juicy" on them don't you?
Comment: dear scotty01. How exactly can you blame rap music or sluttly clothing for someones bad grammar or spelling? Those two factors have absolutly nothing to do with ones grammar. It is as though you, yourself, have not done well in school if you find any sort of connection whatsoever. And if you like to point out spelling, please make sure to capitalize. Please take some time to think logically next time you want to try to bash the youth, thanks :)
Comment: Seriously though most of this is stupid. I don't see why all clothes with words on them must be banned. Juicy on some girls ass doesn't sound too right to me. Sorry people but that IS suggestive. Deal with it. It is. It's also not about the teachers "dan". What about the other students hmmm? I agree about the long hair and such but some of the clothes are entirely too slutty or suggestive.
Comment: If you guys took more time to spell correctly you might be taken a bit more seriously. if you stopped wearing slutty clothes and studied more in school your spelling would be better. I blame the rap music.
Comment: "The district also mandates that boys may not wear earrings or grow their hair below their earlobes" WTF DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING??????? is that harmful in any way, shape or form???? will someone plz explain to me exactly why so many adults overthink everything and are such control freaks????
Comment: You're overdoing the punctuation a bit, but I agree. If teens must express themselves through clothing, let them do it with accessories (as long as they are not obscene) and hairdos. Long hair and body piercings aren't really inappropriate, nor are they as distracting as shorts emblazoned with these...suggestive...phrases.
Comment: I think some of this is insane. I understand about provocative sayings on clothing but hollister, abercrombie and fitch, juicy, they are nothing but brands and if these perverted adult teachers think other wise maybe we should requestion who is teaching our children. Boys cutting there hair? Give me a break. That is rediculous and long hair is hurting nothing neither are piercings that is a way to express you're self and as a teenager expression is what they are all about. The more you shelter the kids from wearing or doing what they want the more they are going to. All the administration is asking for is a hole lot of trouble. Great job guys you have you're hands full=)
Comment: I think some of this is insane. I understand about provocative sayings on clothing but hollister, abercrombie and fitch, juicy, they are nothing but brands and if these perverted adult teachers think other wise maybe we should requestion who is teaching our children. Boys cutting there hair? Give me a break. That is rediculous and long hair is hurting nothing neither are piercings that is a way to express you're self and as a teenager expression is what they are all about. The more you shelter the kids from wearing or doing what they want the more they are going to. All the administration is asking for is a hole lot of trouble. Great job guys you have you're hands full=)
Comment: i know, right??? my best guy friends are fabulous musicians with long hair. watever
Comment: I don't understand *** like this.
They tell us to do all this and the only so called gift we recieve is this 'education'
To tell you the truth, I learn more from the internet itself than my school.
The only thing I probably have learned from going to school is learning Math.
Counting numbers? Big deal.
We wake up for these guys really early.
We do our homework, at least, most of us.
We have to obey their goddamn rules?
Why can't we have so little as much as keeping OUR hair like we want it?
Why can't we wear what WE want to?
It's not like it's going to stop us.
Since we can still do it like everywhere else?
There just wasting there time on petty ***.
We should have at least SOME rights over ourselfs to do what we want with our clothing, hair, etc.
We do so much for them?
Why can't we get anything else but this 'education'?
Comment: CodyCatastrophic, I have a few things to say to you (not in an unfriendly way, mind; I would just like to say a few things).
a) Please limit your language to words that do not require dashes. We all feel like cursing sometimes, I suppose, but being unable to hold it in is a sign of complete immaturity.
b) Please consider the fact that some clothing is inappropriate for school (or, for that matter, anywhere else). I agree that trying to limit jewelry and hairstyles is overdoing things quite a bit, but do girls really need to walk around with such obscene things written on their backsides? I don't think so.
b) Well, what would you do without education? If you didn't learn something or other to help you get a job later, what worthwhile profession would you be able to enter? Would you really be content flipping burger patties at McDonald's?
Comment: I agree. this education that is supposed to be so important is actually promoting povocativity. not that i care what others wear per se, but i do worry aout my prep friends posing easy targets for idiot men with no respect.
Comment: People learn better when they're happy, too. If the students are being opressed then they won't learn nearly as well because they'll want to rebel against 'Big Brother'.
Comment: I don't understand *** like this.
They tell us to do all this and the only so called gift we recieve is this 'education'
To tell you the truth, I learn more from the internet itself than my school.
The only thing I probably have learned from going to school is learning Math.
Counting numbers? Big deal.
We wake up for these guys really early.
We do our homework, at least, most of us.
We have to obey their goddamn rules?
Why can't we have so little as much as keeping OUR hair like we want it?
Why can't we wear what WE want to?
It's not like it's going to stop us.
Since we can still do it like everywhere else?
There just wasting there time on petty ***.
We should have at least SOME rights over ourselfs to do what we want with our clothing, hair, etc.
We do so much for them?
Why can't we get anything else but this 'education'?
Comment: ah, this is jsut dumb, and may i say that let the mainstream preps and hos wear wat they like, it just gives me and my friends reassurement that alternative lifestyling is the way to go. Sure we wear black, color our hair and pierce our lips, but we do not partake in this 'exhibition of ass'. We have our morals in the right place and we are quite happy with it. These preppy conformist clothing styles are so provocative, yet you adults chide US for our dress of choice, and want your kids to be slutty conformists instead. Just let them dress how they will; it is a great source of entertainment for non-conformists everywhere.
Comment: Excuse me, but kids do not become ugly or stupid just because they don't follow the style! Not meaning to brag, but I received national recognition by Duke University for my score on the ACT--and I wouldn't wear shorts like these if you paid me millions of dollars. I mean it. All of you conformists need to grow up. You aren't the only people, your views aren't the only views, and your style isn't the only style. There are others, such as myself, who HATE these ugly rags and just want to act like civilized, mature human beings. GET USED TO IT!!
Comment: I agree on the 'preppy' ideas of clothes. If you don't have children, take a trip into the clothes store and go straight for the 'Teen' section, you will find multitudes of low-cut, horribly short skirts, and provocative clothes all together. Go to another store, you'll find the same thing... and the next, and the next and the one after that. Not one store offers real solutions for girls (boys have an easier time of finding decent clothes) to be even remotely un-provocative without looking horrible. Look at all the clothes that are considered 'decent' today by most of the administration mentioned in this article and you'll find clothes that will only admit the adolescent/child wearing them into extreme mockery, and sometimes worse. It isn't a time when people can easily make their own clothes and still live.
If you're trying to make your children wear these kinds of clothes, you're only asking for them to do worse on their exams; they won't do well if they aren't /happy/. They won't be happy if they are being made fun of for the way they dress.
If you have a problem with how short/low something is, use an under-shirt; problem solved.
The shorts, just don't buy provocative ones, buy just plain denim shorts, nothing on the front or back.
Comment: I don't think the controlling of hair; and such is so important, in fact, it's really quite petty. Still wearing things that attract guys attention to those parts of the body(and I'm saying this as a guy) makes it even harder to stay pure. I'm not saying it should even be taken to the point of a uniform but there do need to be some set standards, and I think this is one of them.
Comment: I have never in my life as a 16 year old girl seen a pair of shorts with "MIKE'S ASS" written on them. Ever.
Comment: Whatever happened to freedom? just becuase you have akward religious views against the human body, which is indeed completely natural, doesn't mean you should force it on others. Moreover, it's up the girls wether they want to wear or not, you're not "saving" them from anybody.
Comment: I can agree that sometimes teenage girls and boys say wear and do some ridiculous things, but do you really think that by restricting what they wear that badly and going so far as to control hair length will help anything? If public schools are allowed to go that far then I am terrified for the future and glad I graduated high school 3 years ago when no one was so petty. I had a pair of those shorts too.. guess what they said? GIRL SCOUTS. Is that OK sir or is it too provocative? You would be better off making the kids wear uniforms and letting them do whatever the hell they want with their hair. Leave these kids alone, high school is hard enough already without you jackasses involved.
Comment: bull crap so what its not class its not fashion ok not a life style emo or prepy a fashion let me spell it for u F A S H I O N so SHUT UP FOR GOD SAKE
Comment: bull crap its not classey so what who really cares its them not you all these people are all like "a little soosy is going to be raped" bull crap these adults are caught up in this crap because of class its a fashion not a life style, unlike emo or prepy so ya and the baning of the fitch and crap i care and i dont cuz really my woredrobe has white black blue red ( u cant have red dumb) u no stuff like that
this is stupid for an argument because r u the kid no so SHUT UP
Comment: Yes, it's stupid that Detroit outlawed certain colors and hair lengths, but please control your language. (It would also be nice if you worked on your grammar and spelling, as you are making yourself appear very uneducated.)
Look, I'm a kid too and I think you're being one heck of an idiot. These clothes are inappropriate! They show too much!
I have so much trouble finding decent clothes because I don't want to wear the translucent, sleeveless junk with which most department stores stuff their shelves. I don't want to walk around looking like I'm wearing pajamas (and revealing, suggestive pajamas at that). Not only are these clothing companies encouraging inappropriate dress, they are also making it hard for extreme nonconformists such as myself to find anything to wear!
It's time for two things to happen: The "preppy" kids who want to be "cool" need to be restrained, and the nonconformists need to be given a fair shot at shopping. We (by "we" I mean teens like me) might not like Hannah Montana, High School Musical, or other popular things, but that doesn't--or at least it shouldn't--keep us from getting something that WE like.
Comment: I think that it is wrong and kids should be allowed to express themselves as long as they don't go nude or anything of the matter.
Comment: Yes! It exploits girls of all ages it should be banned from school .Who wants to read a logo on somebodys behind unless you are a man. But girls in scjool shouldn't be thinking about boys till they get an education and thats the truth . Boys will mess with your education then you get stuck with a baby. He says well i dont want it and leaves your logo butt.
Comment: No clothes aren't their only way of expressing themselves but they are a part of who you are. Uniforms are utterly ridiculous. If you think that takes away a kid's ability to rebel then just go ahead and institute it, you'll see guys without their ties or whatever BS or untucked shirts..etc.
Also giving kids uniforms doesnt make them focus any more on school than they did before they were forced to wear uniforms. The talk will always be who's party to go to this weekend or who had sex with who. Bottom line: you're dumb if you think making kids wear uniforms does anything more than remove one thing to talk about while distracting themselves from their so called purpose of being in school. The dedicated kids will still be dedicated and the ones who dont give a ***...still won't give a ***.
If you want your kids to wear things you find appropriate your best bet is to hit values early and convince them- dont indoctrinate them and prevent them from thinking for themselves - that they shouldnt wear this or that for whatever reason.
Comment: This is a lil far; just get uniforms if you are going to have so many rules. Parents and students will be easily frustrated by all these limitations, and so someone will push it just to break the rules! No matter what is in fashion anyone at any age will experiment and maybe they'll make mistakes maybe they wont but if you are at school your suppose to focus on education. So these schools should just get uniforms and move on. They won???t be focusing on a negative clothing trend but education (which is what they are supposed to do!) If someone doesn???t like their uniform they will find some way to still express who they no matter their location.
Comment: This is a lil far; just get uniforms if you are going to have so many rules. Parents and students will be easily frustrated by all these limitations, and so someone will push it just to break the rules! No matter what is in fashion anyone at any age will experiment and maybe they'll make mistakes maybe they wont but if you are at school your suppose to focus on education. So these schools should just get uniforms and move on. They won???t be focusing on a negative clothing trend but education (which is what they are supposed to do!) If someone doesn???t like their uniform they will find some way to still express who they no matter their location.
Comment: I think some older folks run the risk of preaching here. When you were younger, didn't you want the freedom to express yourself? Of course you did, and you still do. I'm not saying that having "Juicy" written on your tush is a tasteful form of expression, but it falls into the same category, nonetheless.
When pushed or aggravated, people are usually going to push back. ESPECIALLY teenagers. Those poor people who implemented such a ridiculous punishment for tasteless clothing aren't going to stand a chance when they start wearing them for fun. Take away a teenager's self-expression, and you take away their individuality. This article was spot on when it said "teenagers are nothing if not innovative".
Comment: I think some older folks run the risk of preaching here. When you were younger, didn't you want the freedom to express yourself? Of course you did, and you still do. I'm not saying that having "Juicy" written on your tush is a tasteful form of expression, but it falls into the same category, nonetheless.
When pushed or aggravated, people are usually going to push back. ESPECIALLY teenagers. Those poor people who implemented such a ridiculous punishment for tasteless clothing aren't going to stand a chance when they start wearing them for fun. Take away a teenager's self-expression, and you take away their individuality. This article was spot on when it said "teenagers are nothing if not innovative".
Comment: Why on earth would any woman want to advertise that her bum was big enough to fit "Abercrombie" across it?
Comment: Because a lot more men now appreciate a woman with some meat on her bones. Give me a girl wtih Abercrombie over a girl with just AF on her bum.
Comment: What's backwards is no longer taking responsiblity for what our children do, or how they present themselves in public. If parent's would give kids some direction at home as to what is right & wrong, appropriate & not, schools would not have to. When did trying to do the right thing become such a horrible thing?
Comment: Why don't we put all children 1-18 in a little white room, with all white clothing, just stream in the gospel and educational information, that would hopefuly make "these unruly children" Adults. They would never have to worry about getting married or having kids, hell keep in in there their whole life. Thats what public schools should do, just strip students of their expression (don't hander me on the trashy stuff, yes there is a difference) that would be good lets just make them foucus only on school, hell just take art programs, and literary programs out too! that would be good no free thinking allowed! Guns and freeminds would be on the same Zero Policy level, no fear that parents could sit on their asses all day and not have to worry about Timmy or Sarah. Knowing they are getting towards that Harvard scholarship everything would be ok.
This Country is quite backwards in terms of thinking with its "youth" at 18, thats high school aged one can go fight and quite possibly die for their country yet they get looked down apon for wearing what they want. Lets teach our youth to be the "adults" of tomorrow, not a repeat of todays adults, because hell look at it now, they must have gone wrong somewhere.
Comment: The worst thing that we can do is to give up the right to be parents under the excuse of 'they are old enough to make their own decisions.' CHILDREN in high school, and I mean children, and not emotionally and mentally ready for the decisions they are making, and parents should be ashamed for allowing them to make these decisions. If parents won't do their jobs then someone will step up and do it for them. I think school uniforms are a great choice. They don't remove a person's ability to be/express themselves, because if a person is only capable of expressing themselves through their outer appearance they are essentially one-dimensional. Uniforms serve to remind students that they are in a certain environment, school, and that they should be focusing on certain things while there, namely an education.
Comment: why do we always want to blame someone else for not doing our own jobs (PARENTS). I am a parent of 3 teenage daughters and I would not let them wear stuff like that to school, so why can't every other parent do their job and let the school system get back to what we really need them to be doing "Educating" our kids not babysitting.
Comment: What ever happened to parents...God forbid...actually PARENTING! It is not the schools job to mandate what a child can and cannot wear, but rather the parents.
Of course schools can institute their own rules, but banning clothing with ANY writing or picture it is going too far. But I guess those kids can't complain, for they can still wear shirts with "abstract lines and circles".
Comment: I think this particular issue would be best tackeled by the leaders of their respective institutions, some dress is inapropriate for healthy learning and working enviornments and lableing it such should be done with alot of disgression, in the case of Catawba County i think they have severly over stepped that boundry between health and safety and Totalitarianism; as for mccain's veiws on uniforms, i feel they take away an individuals rights and at least in America uniformes have no place in public schools or colleges.
Comment: I think this particular issue would be best tackeled by the leaders of their respective institutions, some dress is inapropriate for healthy learning and working enviornments and lableing it such should be done with alot of disgression, in the case of Catawba County i think they have severly over stepped that boundry between health and safety and Totalitarianism; as for mccain's veiws on uniforms, i feel they take away an individuals rights and at least in America uniformes have no place in public schools or colleges.
Comment: Pretty sure that reguardless of what schools do, it isnt going to stop guys (and vice versa) from checking out girls "bums." If they really want to prevent such action, perhaps they should bleach the eyes of everyone, that should solve the problem that everyone makes so complicated to solve.
And as for the prison jump suits. Schools try so hard to encourage kids to be who they are, and then they have them dress up in prison suits for being themselves? Wow.
Comment: Some of the articles of clothing should be banned such that has profanity and pornographic tendency's but the articles that just have innocent messages such as (CHEER, DANCE) Should not be.
Comment: It's a losing battle for the supporters of this kinda stuff. I mean seriously? The whole "mothers trying to save their little girls from what they don't know" bit doesn't work, because the 'little girls' in question know exactly what they're doing.
It doesn't get talked about, because teenagers don't express themselves completely (or truthfully) to their parents, or many other adult figures for that matter, because they know what they're doing wouldn't be approved of. Just like most teens don't tell their parents they're going out drinking, they're not telling their parents that they're purposely wearing such clothing to attract 'that' kind of attention.
I'm not saying all teenage girls are trying to look like they're working the street, but a lot of times, that look is what's portrayed as "them looking good." That's because the whole point of dressing differently is to express one's self, including their desires, and attract attention.
And let's face it, most teenagers are trying to catch the attention of the opposite sex. Guys wear muscle shirts and stuff like that while girls wear things that bring the focus to their 'better parts' as they see it.
And as far as the prints that say "Tim's Ass" or whatnot, it's most likely a sort of sign of affection, like saying "I'm yours baby." Also, it's a sign that the girl is taken, like a ring would signify.
Now I'm not equating these shorts to a wedding ring, and I'm not saying young kids should be wearing them either. All I'm saying is that "Daddy's Little Princess" may very well be a little provocative tease when he's not looking.
And besides, in most cases (like colleges and such) the kids are old enough to make their own decisions. Granted, parents want to save their children from whatever harm they may come across, but they also need to step back and let their kids make mistakes to learn from and build their own experiences in life.
Censorship never solved anything, it only made people angry and more creative.
Comment: I don't think all clothing items like that should be banned. Only the ones that have swear words or pornographic messages.
Comment: It's a losing battle for the supporters of this kinda stuff. I mean seriously? The whole "mothers trying to save their little girls from what they don't know" bit doesn't work, because the 'little girls' in question know exactly what they're doing. It doesn't get talked about, because teenagers don't express themselves completely (or truthfully) to their parents, or many other adult figures for that matter, because they know what they're doing wouldn't be approved of. Just like most teens don't tell their parents they're going out drinking, they're not telling their parents that they're purposely wearing such clothing to attract 'that' kind of attention. I'm not saying all teenage girls are trying to look like they're working the street, but a lot of times, that look is what's portrayed as "them looking good." That's because the whole point of dressing differently is to express one's self, including their desires, and attract attention. And let's face it, most teenagers are trying to catch the attention of the opposite sex. Guys wear muscle shirts and stuff like that while girls wear things that bring the focus to their 'better parts' as they see it. And as far as the prints that say "Tim's Ass" or whatnot, it's most likely a sort of sign of affection, like saying "I'm yours baby." Also, it's a sign that the girl is taken, like a ring would signify. Now I'm not equating these shorts to a wedding ring, and I'm not saying young kids should be wearing them either. All I'm saying is that "Daddy's Little Princess" may very well be a little provocative tease when he's not looking. And besides, in most cases (like colleges and such) the kids are old enough to make their own decisions. Granted, parents want to save their children from whatever harm they may come across, but they also need to step back and let their kids make mistakes to learn from and build their own experiences in life.
Censorship never solved anything, it only made people angry and more creative.
Comment: I agree with a certain level of implementing a dress code, but PRISON JUMPSUITS!? Are you SERIOUS? I don't blame the "small pack of irate parents" who protested. Disciplining a student for wearing inappropriate clothing is one thing, but forcing them to wear a prison garment is humiliation. Why not force the child to wear a big t-shirt that says, "I BROKE THE RULES, I'M A BAD STUDENT," or putting them in the corner with a dunce hat?
When I was in high school, if we wore something inappropriate, we were sent to the office and written up, and given the option of either being sent home (which counted an an inexcused absence and thus we were given a detention), or calling a parent to bring a change of clothes. I don't see why the public schools see themselves as having the right to clothe peoples' children.
And on a side note, for the Detriot Public Schools - why so limiting in colors? I don't see how colors can be offensive. Personally, I love the color green, all shades of it. I would be heartbroken if I was told that wearing green was a violation of the school dress code. White, black, blue, yellow, and pink? What a boring set of colors!
Comment: I wonder if this has to do with gang colors?
Comment: When I was in middle school, we were prohibited from wearing gang colors, but it only pertained to things like bandannas or sashes. Limiting colors is a knee-jerk reaction to a wider problem.
Comment: Uniforms are a great idea, as long as they don't go too far. Regulating hair length and accessories goes too far in my opinion. It's amazing how many people oppose uniforms, but it really comes down to fostering a learning environment. Self-expression through clothing, while important, can hinder a student's ability to focus on learning instead of the fashion of the day. When everyone is on an equal playing field through clothing, learning can finally happen -- and it should happen as high school is a joke to most.
Comment: I can't believe this, I'm a college student and i own outfits with lettering on them and pictures. I would have to throw away all of my clothes except for my jeans for there to be none of that. That is ridiculous. Oh yeah, school uniforms are a waste. They're expensive, but they have cheap fabric, people can't express themselves in ways they want if everyone gets uniforms. I understand, covering of the breasts and buttox are vitally important, but that doesn't mean you should hide everyone's identity.
Comment: john mccain wants all schools in the nation to go to uniforms and i agree 100%
Comment: When fashion gets in the way of education then it should be regulated. However, in the case of the private Kentucky school from which an excerpt of the dress code was quoted, it would appear that proper grammar and clarity have taken a back seat to image. Those in charge should not lose sight of their primary mandate.
Comment: Yes, there does need to be some leeway and common sense in the rules. A photo of Dr. MLK is a long way from "Tim's Ass" printed on a pair of shorts. Approproiateness ("Whoever's Ass printed on a pair of shorts is inappropriate in a school or office setting, but many workplaces permit t's shirts celebrating certain holidays or festivals. The problem is, who decides which celebrations are appropriate? some people might want to celebrate an event/person that the majority deplores.Administrators/teachers are in school to teach, not decide on a case by case basis what is permitted, thus the blanket ban.
Comment: Wow. I recently graduated from high school, and have always believed that modesty of dress matters. What you wear tells the world who you are and how much you respect yourself. However, a dress code that bans certain colors? That's just crazy. Or banning all pictures? A number of students at my old high school wore T-shirts with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. on them for MLK Day. Should they be sent home? In my opinion, schools need dress codes that have room for interpretation. Then, the school could institute a panel of teachers, administrators, and students, who could judge allegd violations on a case-by-case basis. Then, all parties concerned would have some input about what is or isn't "acceptable".
Comment: I'm a high school teen too. I, however, am going to side with the parents and teachers on this. I dress very conservatively and find it offensive when I have to see other girls my age wearing short shorts with logos on the butt or showing off their underwear. Our school does not restrict the short shorts. They actually sell sweatpants that have our school's monogram on the butt. A portion of the girls at my school are tasteful in their clothing choices but it's the other girls who give all teens a bad name. When I look at the grls who wear those clothes I feel bad for them because their parents must not be active in their life. I find it sad that schools are having to act as parents now by monitoring clothing and other such things.
As for the argument about freedom of expression there are plenty of ways to express yourself with your school supplies and backpacks (folders, notebooks, etc.) Truthfully no one is limiting their freedom of expression and I find it disgusting that some people are comparing a simple issue of a school dress code to Nazi Germany.
Comment: Dear Run Run...
...and now from a teacher's perspective.
First a school is not a democracy, just as the work place that you will enter as an adult. will not be a democracy. Others WILL determine how you behave and dress. There will be consequences for not following company policy on dress, behavior, and work output. School is designed for you to be successful in the working world...and good news, there will be no five hour detention, instead, you will be fired for non-compliance.
Two. School is NOT for your social amusement. School is yo
