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  • Posted By: Joesyphh @ 09/09/2008 11:34:12 PM

    I recall going to school and seeing girls with the word's "Daddy's Girl" written on their butt. Anyone could have taken that the wrong way.. which is in fact a terribly wrong way. Too bad nobody ever told her it's the wrong way. =)

  • Posted By: edmccaffrey @ 09/07/2008 2:35:07 AM

    Maybe I'm thinkinking a little out side the box here but we'll have a go at it anyways. Did any of you people ever stop to think that if this wasn't such a morally repressed country in the first place that maybe we wouldn't have anywhere near the problems that we do? There are other countries in the world that have been around for far longer than ours has, that think that the human body is a beautiful thing, nude or clothed. They don't teach their children that it is shameful to be seen with no clothing on and in fact allow then to run around nude on beaches in public.
    I know what your thinking. I'm some kind of pervert who likes looking at young girls. You're wrong.
    This country was founded on a belief system that allowed for freedom of expression and if that freedom is to be tampered with then it should apply to all people. If you won't let you child wear what you percieve to be club clothes to school then maybe you as a parent shouldn't wear them at any time. Lead by example.
    If your childs boxers shouldn't be showing, then give up those swim trunks at the beach. if you don't want your daughter to wear a thong, then give up that bikini and wear a full piece suit with a skirt to the beach.
    If we want our children to be self confident then we need them to be physically confident as well as mentally confident. teaching them that their bodies are something to be ashamed of is not the way to go. Denying them the right to express them selves through their clothing choices only makes matters worse. It tells them that we are not confident in their ability to make good decisions regarding the way that they present themselves to society.
    How would you have felt if your parents had decreed that you had to wear courderoys, an arrow shirt ,and a tie to school when everyone else wore jeans and a tee shirt.
    Times change. As a wise man once said, " When in Rome, do as the Romans do."
    This is America. If I want to see people covered head to toe and wearing veils, I'll move elsewhere.

    • Posted By: ppage59 @ 09/07/2008 10:33:06 AM

      You make absolutely no sense. Going from one extreme to another is not a solution. And how about thinking about time- and place-appropriateness. Swim trunks or a bathing suit are perfectly acceptable at the beach. Not at school. A strapless evening gown would be great for the prom. Not for school. Are you suggesting that "self-confident" children should be allowed to attend school in the nude should they so choose.? Are you suggesting that children, no matter what age, be allowed to make their own choices in how "they present themselves to society"? I believe that parenting involves guiding your child to make decisions. If a 6-year-old chooses to wear his Batman underoos and a cape to school, the parent would need to guide him into choosing something more appropriate for school. An opportunity to discuss place-appropriateness. While the Batman outfit is perfectly acceptable for playtime around the house, it is not appropriate schoolwear. This is not denying the child his rights; it's teacing him how to make good choices. If you allow children to believe that they can do anything they want any time they want, in the name of personal freedom, you have neglected the whole idea that one person's rights must not get in the way of another's. If you want to go nude at the beach, go ahead; I'll look the other way. However, if you want to go nude at the mall, I have a problem with that.

      • Posted By: Fictional @ 09/09/2008 11:26:35 PM

        I think it's perfectly okay for a 6-year-old to wear a costume to school, if we're going to start mandating that imagination must be taken out that early, why bother? That's only going to make people more rebelious later on. There is a fine line between, over-doing it and under-doing it, but I think we can reach that point.

  • Posted By: TheEducatedConsumer4 @ 09/09/2008 11:22:38 PM

    dear scotty01. How exactly can you blame rap music or sluttly clothing for someones bad grammar or spelling? Those two factors have absolutly nothing to do with ones grammar. It is as though you, yourself, have not done well in school if you find any sort of connection whatsoever. And if you like to point out spelling, please make sure to capitalize. Please take some time to think logically next time you want to try to bash the youth, thanks :)

  • Posted By: Scotty01 @ 09/09/2008 11:00:08 PM

    Seriously though most of this is stupid. I don't see why all clothes with words on them must be banned. Juicy on some girls ass doesn't sound too right to me. Sorry people but that IS suggestive. Deal with it. It is. It's also not about the teachers "dan". What about the other students hmmm? I agree about the long hair and such but some of the clothes are entirely too slutty or suggestive.

  • Posted By: Scotty01 @ 09/09/2008 10:58:15 PM

    If you guys took more time to spell correctly you might be taken a bit more seriously. if you stopped wearing slutty clothes and studied more in school your spelling would be better. I blame the rap music.

  • Posted By: daniives @ 09/09/2008 10:43:42 PM

    I think some of this is insane. I understand about provocative sayings on clothing but hollister, abercrombie and fitch, juicy, they are nothing but brands and if these perverted adult teachers think other wise maybe we should requestion who is teaching our children. Boys cutting there hair? Give me a break. That is rediculous and long hair is hurting nothing neither are piercings that is a way to express you're self and as a teenager expression is what they are all about. The more you shelter the kids from wearing or doing what they want the more they are going to. All the administration is asking for is a hole lot of trouble. Great job guys you have you're hands full=)

  • Posted By: daniives @ 09/09/2008 10:35:09 PM

    I think some of this is insane. I understand about provocative sayings on clothing but hollister, abercrombie and fitch, juicy, they are nothing but brands and if these perverted adult teachers think other wise maybe we should requestion who is teaching our children. Boys cutting there hair? Give me a break. That is rediculous and long hair is hurting nothing neither are piercings that is a way to express you're self and as a teenager expression is what they are all about. The more you shelter the kids from wearing or doing what they want the more they are going to. All the administration is asking for is a hole lot of trouble. Great job guys you have you're hands full=)

    • Posted By: screwthesystem @ 09/09/2008 10:42:58 PM

      i know, right??? my best guy friends are fabulous musicians with long hair. watever

  • Posted By: CodyCatastrophic @ 09/09/2008 10:33:01 PM

    I don't understand *** like this.
    They tell us to do all this and the only so called gift we recieve is this 'education'
    To tell you the truth, I learn more from the internet itself than my school.

    The only thing I probably have learned from going to school is learning Math.
    Counting numbers? Big deal.

    We wake up for these guys really early.
    We do our homework, at least, most of us.
    We have to obey their goddamn rules?

    Why can't we have so little as much as keeping OUR hair like we want it?
    Why can't we wear what WE want to?
    It's not like it's going to stop us.
    Since we can still do it like everywhere else?
    There just wasting there time on petty ***.
    We should have at least SOME rights over ourselfs to do what we want with our clothing, hair, etc.

    We do so much for them?
    Why can't we get anything else but this 'education'?

  • Posted By: chritterfur@gmail.com @ 09/09/2008 9:45:54 PM

    I don't think the controlling of hair; and such is so important, in fact, it's really quite petty. Still wearing things that attract guys attention to those parts of the body(and I'm saying this as a guy) makes it even harder to stay pure. I'm not saying it should even be taken to the point of a uniform but there do need to be some set standards, and I think this is one of them.

  • Posted By: Accipiter @ 09/09/2008 11:32:29 AM

    I agree with a certain level of implementing a dress code, but PRISON JUMPSUITS!? Are you SERIOUS? I don't blame the "small pack of irate parents" who protested. Disciplining a student for wearing inappropriate clothing is one thing, but forcing them to wear a prison garment is humiliation. Why not force the child to wear a big t-shirt that says, "I BROKE THE RULES, I'M A BAD STUDENT," or putting them in the corner with a dunce hat?

    When I was in high school, if we wore something inappropriate, we were sent to the office and written up, and given the option of either being sent home (which counted an an inexcused absence and thus we were given a detention), or calling a parent to bring a change of clothes. I don't see why the public schools see themselves as having the right to clothe peoples' children.

    And on a side note, for the Detriot Public Schools - why so limiting in colors? I don't see how colors can be offensive. Personally, I love the color green, all shades of it. I would be heartbroken if I was told that wearing green was a violation of the school dress code. White, black, blue, yellow, and pink? What a boring set of colors!

    • Posted By: montiera @ 09/09/2008 7:14:13 PM

      I wonder if this has to do with gang colors?

      • Posted By: Accipiter @ 09/09/2008 9:43:39 PM

        When I was in middle school, we were prohibited from wearing gang colors, but it only pertained to things like bandannas or sashes. Limiting colors is a knee-jerk reaction to a wider problem.

  • Posted By: allysonschorle @ 09/09/2008 8:11:52 PM

    I have never in my life as a 16 year old girl seen a pair of shorts with "MIKE'S ASS" written on them. Ever.

  • Posted By: Twuan @ 09/09/2008 8:00:55 PM

    Whatever happened to freedom? just becuase you have akward religious views against the human body, which is indeed completely natural, doesn't mean you should force it on others. Moreover, it's up the girls wether they want to wear or not, you're not "saving" them from anybody.

  • Posted By: jaybyrd26 @ 09/09/2008 7:47:35 PM

    I can agree that sometimes teenage girls and boys say wear and do some ridiculous things, but do you really think that by restricting what they wear that badly and going so far as to control hair length will help anything? If public schools are allowed to go that far then I am terrified for the future and glad I graduated high school 3 years ago when no one was so petty. I had a pair of those shorts too.. guess what they said? GIRL SCOUTS. Is that OK sir or is it too provocative? You would be better off making the kids wear uniforms and letting them do whatever the hell they want with their hair. Leave these kids alone, high school is hard enough already without you jackasses involved.

  • Posted By: emospride95 @ 09/09/2008 7:41:06 PM

    bull crap so what its not class its not fashion ok not a life style emo or prepy a fashion let me spell it for u F A S H I O N so SHUT UP FOR GOD SAKE

  • Posted By: dude_71 @ 09/09/2008 7:09:06 PM

    I think that it is wrong and kids should be allowed to express themselves as long as they don't go nude or anything of the matter.

  • Posted By: kokopuff @ 09/09/2008 6:53:32 PM

    Yes! It exploits girls of all ages it should be banned from school .Who wants to read a logo on somebodys behind unless you are a man. But girls in scjool shouldn't be thinking about boys till they get an education and thats the truth . Boys will mess with your education then you get stuck with a baby. He says well i dont want it and leaves your logo butt.

  • Posted By: TheVigil @ 09/06/2008 2:08:48 AM

    I don't think dress codes are bad for schools. They prevent offense taken at certain fashions and they prevent gang colors. I personally think it would be a good idea to institute national school uniforms. Fix a lot of the school gang problems. I wore a uniform for years, didn't wear one after changing schools, none of it hurt me at all.

    That being said, I don't agree in the slightest that outside of school hours anyone has the right to regulate another's dress. It's like work and after-work. You wouldn't show up to work with "Juicy" stitched on your ass. But you might go to the club that way.

    The moral panic about it has got to go, though. "Yap yap kids are out of control". No, they're not. Generations change.

    • Posted By: ceanf9 @ 09/06/2008 2:20:54 AM

      i was waiting for some moron to suggest that. yes lets federally legislate school clothes! thats the whole purpose of the federal government! its not like we have any bigger issues on the national stage to resolve. let me give you a little refresher on the constitution...

      Amendment 10
      The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

      funny, but I don't see anything in the constitution that gives the federal government the power to legislate what children wear in school.

      • Posted By: TheVigil @ 09/06/2008 3:38:57 PM

        The poster above wants to talk about rudeness - screw short shorts with words on the butt. I'm sick of the rudeness on here. I have a right to my opinions just the same as anyone else.

        Want to argue the Tenth Amendment? Fine, screw uniforms at the national level. Let the states do it. I personally could care less if they did or if they didn't, and I'm not particularly hung up on trying to have a federal mandate or a Constitutional dispute over this issue. My only point is that they *do* do a good job at resolving gang disputes and "civility" issues like the ONES BROUGHT UP IN THIS ARTICLE. I'd personally rather not have them! I'm not carrying around signs and screaming for a Constitutional amendment to get school uniforms in place. To counteract your accusation that I'm making a mountain out of a molehill, maybe you should realize that I'm JUST COMMENTING ON THE TOPIC THE ARTICLE COVERED? Want to see my opinion on some of the more pressing issues that the nation is facing? GO READ THE ARTICLES ABOUT THOSE PROBLEMS!

        I didn't post in any way, shape, or form that gives you the right to insult me. "You were waiting" indeed - as you've more or less admitted, you were just waiting for someone to disagree with you so that you could pick a fight. So go ahead and pick one - as a matter of fact, go ambush someone you disagree with in real life, not sitting behind the safety of a computer keyboard. Do it in a bad neighborhood. You'll see firsthand what really happens to people who cherry-pick arguments for the sake of being argumentative.

        • Posted By: MikeOfWa @ 09/09/2008 6:36:16 PM

          Sounds like someone is too sensitive for the Internet.

    • Posted By: angelosdaughter @ 09/06/2008 11:33:46 AM

      Yes, genreations change, but not all change is for the better. However, I do agree with you on one thing; we are only talking abut dress codes for schools, not in public. People have the right to be as ignorant as they like outside of school as long as no one is harmed. I do, however believe that the parents of minor children have the right to regulate what their kids wear in public, and those who have the judgement that the children in their care lack do that. It's just that so many parents were never given boundaries, so they don't know how to set them. It is a parent's job to set the example and to at least expose their children to decent behaviour and standards of dress. If as adults they choose to go another way, at least they were given the choice. Living in a civilized society does require a certain amount of conformity, not complete but at least some, particularly in manners. Manners are what keep civilization going. If not for that, we would still be swinging in the trees and there would be a lot more killing than there already is. . This modern pushy-in-your-face rudeness just promotes more anger and violence.

      • Posted By: Jenny222 @ 09/06/2008 2:52:15 PM

        I agree with your posts (yes there ARE others out there with morals!!! Shocking, i know!!!). I saw a ten year old girl at the store a few months ago dressed like a hooker. I am NOT exaggerating at all, I even asked her how old she was and if her mom knew she was dressed that way, and said in a nice way that it could be dangerous (as in pedophiles, etc) for her to dress that way. She found her mom in the store (because of course she was walking around alone in the store dressed this way) and her, her mom, and her equally slutty dressed 11, and 12 year old (apx) sisters chased me around the store telling me to F off and then her mom ran her cart into me, at which point I called the police. I was never rude to any of them, but as you can see this is the sick world we are living in. It clearly looked like a situation in which the parents are 'pimping' out their young child. Truly sick, but you know someone on here will think it is okay for a ten year old to dress in a way that as someone in my twenties I would never dream of dressing.

        • Posted By: TheVigil @ 09/06/2008 3:49:17 PM

          The problem is that, as well-intentioned as your actions might have been, you really can't regulate the way others think and act. You don't have the right to act as the judge of people you disagree with - the only actions and styles of dress you can control are your own.

          School uniforms are one thing, because a school is an institution wherein freedom of action has to be curtailed for the common purpose of educating students - the same way work is comprised of institutions where it's perfectly okay to say "you have to wear a suit" for reasons of professionality, professional courtesy, and respect for the institution employing you. But people's down-time is their own. You're coming off really judgemental here, and while I don't condone the actions of the woman who ran her cart into you, you also don't have the right to call other people "sick" because they dress in a way you don't agree with.

          • Posted By: angelosdaughter @ 09/06/2008 5:33:09 PM

            Sorry, but I agree with Jenny222: any mother who allows her 10, 11, and 12-year old daughters to dress in styles that sexualize them is truly sick. ....but then the mother seems not to have had any common sense and even less good judgement.

    • Posted By: angelosdaughter @ 09/06/2008 11:33:42 AM

      Yes, genreations change, but not all change is for the better. However, I do agree with you on one thing; we are only talking abut dress codes for schools, not in public. People have the right to be as ignorant as they like outside of school as long as no one is harmed. I do, however believe that the parents of minor children have the right to regulate what their kids wear in public, and those who have the judgement that the children in their care lack do that. It's just that so many parents were never given boundaries, so they don't know how to set them. It is a parent's job to set the example and to at least expose their children to decent behaviour and standards of dress. If as adults they choose to go another way, at least they were given the choice. Living in a civilized society does require a certain amount of conformity, not complete but at least some, particularly in manners. Manners are what keep civilization going. If not for that, we would still be swinging in the trees and there would be a lot more killing than there already is. . This modern pushy-in-your-face rudeness just promotes more anger and violence.

      • Posted By: TheVigil @ 09/06/2008 3:42:01 PM

        I agree that civility is a benefit to civilization, but it's also important to remember that "manners" are culturally determined, and it's important not to attempt to impose one's own system of manners on a group that doesn't share them or to judge them harshly because of it.

        But otherwise, I mostly agree, and parents do have the right to regulate their kids' dress, though it should be used with discretion, I feel.

  • Posted By: luv2paddlekanu @ 09/09/2008 4:04:25 PM

    Why on earth would any woman want to advertise that her bum was big enough to fit "Abercrombie" across it?

    • Posted By: MikeOfWa @ 09/09/2008 6:19:51 PM

      Because a lot more men now appreciate a woman with some meat on her bones. Give me a girl wtih Abercrombie over a girl with just AF on her bum.

  • Posted By: RollTide112 @ 09/09/2008 5:46:54 PM

    No clothes aren't their only way of expressing themselves but they are a part of who you are. Uniforms are utterly ridiculous. If you think that takes away a kid's ability to rebel then just go ahead and institute it, you'll see guys without their ties or whatever BS or untucked shirts..etc.

    Also giving kids uniforms doesnt make them focus any more on school than they did before they were forced to wear uniforms. The talk will always be who's party to go to this weekend or who had sex with who. Bottom line: you're dumb if you think making kids wear uniforms does anything more than remove one thing to talk about while distracting themselves from their so called purpose of being in school. The dedicated kids will still be dedicated and the ones who dont give a ***...still won't give a ***.

    If you want your kids to wear things you find appropriate your best bet is to hit values early and convince them- dont indoctrinate them and prevent them from thinking for themselves - that they shouldnt wear this or that for whatever reason.

  • Posted By: ccrothers84 @ 09/09/2008 5:31:12 PM

    This is a lil far; just get uniforms if you are going to have so many rules. Parents and students will be easily frustrated by all these limitations, and so someone will push it just to break the rules! No matter what is in fashion anyone at any age will experiment and maybe they'll make mistakes maybe they wont but if you are at school your suppose to focus on education. So these schools should just get uniforms and move on. They won???t be focusing on a negative clothing trend but education (which is what they are supposed to do!) If someone doesn???t like their uniform they will find some way to still express who they no matter their location.

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