Friends Like These

ok lets try and have a nonpartison discussion here, just us citizens of the USA.
lets figure out who is most qualified to be the president.

lets start with qualifications . what are the qualifictions to make Barrack Obama our president.

what are the qualifications that John McCain has for president

It wont be tooo bad if you in the press don't put that thought out there

Give me a break. So Obama met Kilpatrick once or twice, and had his support (for what it's worth). Obama was right to distance himself from Kilpatrick once the scandal broke (as he did). He was wise to stay out of it, and thankfully, Kilpatrick stayed away from Obama. As far as Kerry in 2004, Kilpatrick did absolutely NOTHING for Kerry in 2004 (wouldn???t wheel and deal with KK), and 40% turned out for him. There was so little enthusiasm for Kerry in the city (except that he was not Bush), it would be impossible for Obama to not get 60% of Detroit. Don't believe a thing these "political consultants" say, their opinions blow with the cash, ???Hold on please, Mr. DeVos is on line 2???.

Governor Granholm did not take this action upon herself, she was asked by Detroit's City Council to conduct the removal hearings, and as Kilpatrick's attorneys delayed all the other hearings, etc., to try and drag it out for sympathy, the dates with the governor remained unchanged. And Kilpatrick could finally see the writing on the wall. It is a new day in Detroit, one we have waited quite sometime for, we can finally live without the cloud of this mess over our heads.

The ads from McCain and the republicans continue to worsen, and with Rove in charge there will be no let-up. The levels to which they stoop will not end. Mr. McCain is in a sad and desperate state. I feel sorry for him, and for what the country will now have to endure as they will use whatever measure possible, hire whatever attack dog necessary to spew their venom across the airwaves.

Sorry. This won't hurt him in Michigan, although I hear it's popular with wingnuts in Tennessee.

Give me a break. So Obama met Kilpatrick once or twice, and had his support (for what it's worth). Obama was right to distance himself from Kilpatrick once the scandal broke (as he did). He was wise to stay out of it, and thankfully, Kilpatrick stayed away from Obama. As far as Kerry in 2004, Kilpatrick did absolutely NOTHING for Kerry in 2004 (wouldn???t wheel and deal with KK), and 40% turned out for him. There was so little enthusiasm for Kerry in the city (except that he was not Bush), it would be impossible for Obama to not get 60% of Detroit. Don't believe a thing these "political consultants" say, their opinions blow with the cash, ???Hold on please, Mr. DeVos is on line 2???.

Governor Granholm did not take this action upon herself, she was asked by Detroit's City Council to conduct the removal hearings, and as Kilpatrick's attorneys delayed all the other hearings, etc., to try and drag it out for sympathy, the dates with the governor remained unchanged. And Kilpatrick could finally see the writing on the wall. It is a new day in Detroit, one we have waited quite sometime for, we can finally live without the cloud of this mess over our heads.

The ads from McCain and the republicans continue to worsen, and with Rove in charge there will be no let-up. The levels to which they stoop will not end. Mr. McCain is in a sad and desperate state. I feel sorry for him, and for what the country will now have to endure as they will use whatever measure possible, hire whatever attack dog necessary to spew their venom across the airwaves.

Okay - so Obama may have somne issues to deal with stemming from his comments about Kilpatrick. Shall we count the Repeublicans A) forced to resign for hitting on Senate pages; B) forced to resign for ties to crooked uber-lobbyist Jack Abramoff; C) under pressure to resign from the Senate and facing charges for coercing private companies to pay for re-building his Alaskan home; D) arrested and under pressure to resign from the Senate for making sexual advances to an under-cover policemant in an airport men's room? The list goes on and on! Since Sarah Palin has such a good record of cleaning up after fellow Republicans in Alaska, perhpas we really should give in and elect her... to clean up the Republican swamp in Washington.

this is the dumbest waste of energy I have read today. Obama is n more responsible for this man's downfall as your mother is your choice of professional carreer. there must be something else there to write about. for heaven's sake get a life!!!!

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Total job losses for 2008: 605,000.
Unemployment surges to 5-year high as employers cut workers for eighth straight month.

republicans and democrats alike have had their share of sexual scandals. when obama was speaking highly of the detroit mayor, he most likely did not know about the mayor's sexual exploits and was speaking only of his service to the community as mayor. both republican and democratic candidates running for office usually distance themselves from the high profile office holders they once supported once they learn of sexual scandal and lies.
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Just as I've always said.You don't vote for someone just because he is Black or White. You vote for someone that qualified for the job.We African Americans need to realize that we are a special people and need to reflect the honor and respect that we are raised with.( If you were raised that way).Detroit's Mayor wasn't ready for that job and neither is Obama!

For what it's worth, I agree that it is not an association that should sway voters but I do think it is an interesting observation by Newsweek (that the Detroit mayor's downfall may hurt Obama in the critical state of Michigan). I also agree with those that say the Bush-McCain association may cause his downfall. Indeed, at this point it is the central argument the Democrats are making.

That's Kilpatrick and his character has nothing to do with OBAMA's.

I find this story insulting and condescending to the residents of Detroit and the people of Michigan. You speak with Kilpatrick supporters that blame the Govenor for forcing the Mayor's hand. She wouldn't have been able to do anything if he hadn't done anything illegal and immoral in the first place. He should have stepped down long ago. Oh wait, he should have never lied, cheated, stolen and murdered, then he could have gone on to become the "great man" he was slated to be. Kilpatrick brings up race, immorality has no race. Did he do what he did because he is black or because he is a poor excuse for a man? You get what you give. I'm not a fan of Granholm's but she did the right thing before he did more damage to the state of Michigan and the city of Detroit. She did what he couldn't seem to do on his own. He and his supporters can all take a slow boat to China. He is in this mess because he has no morals or values, not because he is black.

What in the world does Barack Obama have to do with Kilpatrick's affair and lying??? I've had plenty of friends (especially when I was in the military) that were unfaithful to their wives and I still considered them a friend to me. This double standard stuff is really getting tiring!

I have the same reaction to this I've had to all Obama "scandals" so far... THAT'S IT? That's your complaint? He KNOWS somebody who turned out to be not what he appeared? Obama said some good words about him as mayor, and gave him a man-hug? C'mon, you got to be kidding! Where's the BEEF?

Let???s look at what Obama is ???guilty??? of in these scandals so far:

Rev. Wright: Obama KNOWS somebody who has said some controversial? (Who, by the way, is a Marine??? so you think that would give him a bit of license to criticize the country he served). Ok??? he is the pastor who perform Barak???s wedding??? so I guess he is ASSOCIATED with Wright. But there is no business relationship and no political relationship. But Barak shows ???bad judgment??? for knowing him. Ok.

William Ayers: Obama KNOWS somebody controversial, and was guilty of crimes before Obama was born. No business relationship. No political relationship, other than receiving campaign contributions from him. Hmm??? that seems to be a common failing: not properly vetting your campaign contributors. Name a politician NOT guilty of that. But this is even less of an issue than usual, since this contributor has nothing to directly gain??? no legislation on the table that Obama might consider, no no-bid contracts to be won. Standard operating procedure: donate that man???s campaign contributions to charity. End of story.

Mayor Kwame: Obama KNOWS somebody who turned out to be a scumbag. Not because of any kind of political corruption, but because of a (give us this week our weekly???) SEX SCANDAL. Again, no biz relationship, no political relationship other than that they are both Dems. Oh??? but they???re both black??? so I guess, they must be blood brothers. And the biggest detriment to Obama: it feeds into ???the worst stereotypes that white voters have about black leaders.??? I never thought I???d say this about Newsweek, but WHAT A RACIST ARTICLE THIS IS. Ok, I played the race card. Sue me.

The ONLY scandal I???ve heard so far that might have any meat to it is the Tony Resko thing. At least there is some kind of biz relationship that might need to be examined. In all objectivity, if you???ve got something, bring it forward. At least it MIGHT be a real issue Obama supporters should consider.

Advice to Republicans: forget Wright, Ayers and Kwame. If you want a scandal, go with Resko. But you know what? I???ll go head to head, Resko vs. Palin Troopergate any day! This is not about who Palin KNEW, it???s about what she and her top staff DID: abuse political power for personal retribution. This is shaping up to be another Justice Department Firings / Valerie Plame outing rolled into one. And Palin is shaping up to be another Bush: a figurehead politician dancing on the strings of her political party.

I think its about time, that America's citizens all over should stand up and unite for one another. Its is coming increasingly clear that politics has become mearly a career for a certain elite few. that includes Democrats and Republicans. It has come down to who can dig up more garbage on there opponents first,.then blame the entire party for how corrupt they are. Its about time that we demand our elite leaders to shut up. build my roads, keep us safe, and let the people of America decide the future of our coomunities. Detroit is worth rebuilding as of all our cities. we can accomplish anything in America if we just use the citizens power of the veto. What we need is CHANGE in America,and I don't mean it in the sense of Senator Oboma's slogan.I mean it in the sense of change on how to let these bueracrats in politics to understand that they are our servants WE ARE THE FINAL DECISION MAKERS. hold them accountable for all the mess that they alone have caused with all that is wrong with America.