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  • Posted By: j jones @ 09/05/2008 11:18:17 PM

    You assume too much. I remember the Keating 5 and there were suicides over it. The deregulation led to that and yes, he was in with everyone else. How does that excuse Obama?

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 09/05/2008 11:25:11 PM

      Excuse Obama from what? Your insinuations? I don't see anything to excuse him of - he's just great: Brilliant, articulate, visionary, hard working, well educated and sincere. For pete's sake, what should I excuse him of? I applaud him.

      You're the one who says he needs excusing.

      McCain was closely associated with Keating - I'm drawing a parallel to raise the issue that you're only narrowly focusing on the Democrat when you should think before you "speak" - your bud McCain is anything but a hero who puts himself last before everyone else in this country.

      Like his neo-Nazi Party lately, he is solely focused on getting elected so he can help the very richest in the land continue to profit from the policy choices he will sustain that his big friends the Bushes have implemented - and which have failed the rest of us.

      You're going after the wrong dude.

  • Posted By: vertexia @ 09/05/2008 11:15:58 PM

    there is nothing wrong with Obama knowing Mayor Kilpatrick, He ran Detroit well and he will be back. Do you think you are a better person because you know John McCain and his drug addict wife. McCain is to old to lead.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 09/05/2008 11:20:27 PM

      Yeah, while we're on the subject of Cindy....

      Her dad was CONVICTED TWICE for his dealing with the Mafia - it's how he built his beer empire and the folks he considered his friends - and these are the "good people" who helped fund his political career too.

      So don't throw stones without considering the whole story, that's what I say to my fellow bloggers here.

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 09/05/2008 11:16:50 PM

    So, it turns out the Palin family were Pentacostal Christian geeks (sorry for the term of endearment!) before they "converted" just in time for her to run on a national ticket as McCain's VP, to something a little more palettable and mainstream - Evangelical Christian.

    The Pentacostals, bless their hearts, are the ones who speak in tongues and have sudden, eye-ball rolling attacks when the word of the Lord strikes them, and they have been known to roll all over the floor, wail, jump and shout, scream and lash out, crying about the devil and god-knows-what-all in a foreign, but not decipherable, tongue -- or even in plain English.

    No offense, but if you ever saw the movie starring Sasha Baron Cohen, titled "Borak" - there's a great scene toward the end of this story that shows some Pentacostal types having a religious session. It is very telling.

    That's where Sarah Palin and her family have been going to church ---- until recently. Of course, the GOP couldn't have her accused of any loony preachers or churches so they prevailed upon her and her beloved family to quit that church and attend something a little more "normal".... Mind you, there are many Americans who do not consider "Evangelical Christians" and the word "Normal" in the same breath unless they're drawing an extreme contrast.

    Interesting parallels but these certainly won't be mentioned very often by the Right Wing Neo-Nazi supporters of McCain-Palin

  • Posted By: j jones @ 09/05/2008 11:09:34 PM

    First Rezko and now Kilpatrick. For someone who's pastor preaches about the White Devil and who's associates are going to prison he sure talks good don't he?

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 09/05/2008 11:13:40 PM

      Yeah, sounds just like your buddy McCain, only he's white so he's not going to go to prison - not while Bushes are in power.

      It happened during the last banking scandal - McCain covered for his big crooked buddy Keating - and Bush Sr. of course turned a blind eye as his own son, Neal Bush, got caught too with his fingers in the cookie jar - and absolutely no repercussions.

      Y'all are a bunch of crooked neo-Nazi, two-bit scumbags - and the Party you support is at its all-time worst right now. Down with the RIGHT - and their "Religion" too. Yeccccchchchchchch - I want to throw up.

  • Posted By: jarhead @ 09/05/2008 10:59:37 PM

    Birds of a feather...... if it walks like a duck , quacks like a duck., it must be a duck. You are judged by the company you keep. How many more are out there that Obama is linked to?

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 09/05/2008 11:09:09 PM

      How many whackos is Palin linked to?

      Cindy McCain's daddy was twice convicted and imprisoned for his ties to the MAFIA. I guess that's okay though - the McCains are WHITE, Republican and war-happy. So the neo-Nazi crowd that is so proud to call itself "Republican" this year thinks that is "old history" or somehow " just fine".... but if that was Obama's daddy - man, you'd have that white posse after him so fast his career would be OVER...which is just what you're hoping will hapen by clutching at all these straws.

      McCain himself has a LONG history of less-than-perfect, illicit associations during his time in Congress, naturally. One of the most well known was his close ties with Charles Keating during the 1980s... he was prevailed upon by Keating, who was under investigation for ripping off BILLIONS from American taxpayers during the Savings & Loan scandal (coincidentally happening on BUSH Senior's watch, just like Bush Jr. has been in office during the MORTGAGE BANKING CRISIS...hmmmmmm very fishy, that one)...

      So don't try to paint Obama as the first of our illustrius politicians who might have some edgy ties in his past.

      Your Neo-Nazi Party and McCain family have quite a few black marks and big huge question marks on their record.

  • Posted By: darlenev @ 09/05/2008 9:15:32 PM

    Ok so your saying that if someone you did business with, that lived in another state than you, who really had very little to do with you except for a certain business at hand, that if he got caught up in a scandal because he was having an affair, you are suppose to know about his affair and that it should reflect on you????
    And that it is simular to Palin's direct obstruction of justice investigation, and the fact that she can't even get her daughter to follow her but wants the nation to do so?????

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 09/05/2008 11:03:18 PM



      So, it turns out Palen's were Pentacostal Christian geeks (sorry for the term of endearment!) before they "converted" just in time for her to run on a national ticket as McCain's VP, to something a little more palettable and mainstream - Evangelical Christian.

      The Pentacostals, bless their hearts, are the ones who speak in tongues and have sudden, eye-ball rolling attacks when the word of the Lord strikes them, and they have been known to roll all over the floor, wail, jump and shout, scream and lash out, crying about the devil and god-knows-what-all in a foreign, but not decipherable, tongue -- or even in plain English.

      No offense, but if you ever saw the movie starring Sasha Baron Cohen, titled "Borak" - there's a great scene toward the end of this story that shows some Pentacostal types having a religious session. It is very telling.

      That's where Sarah Palin and her family have been going to church ---- until recently. Of course, the GOP couldn't have her accused of any loony preachers or churches so they prevailed upon her and her beloved family to quit that church and attend something a little more "normal".... Mind you, there are many Americans who do not consider "Evangelical Christians" and the word "Normal" in the same breath unless they're drawing an extreme contrast.

      So go figure. I guess everey political rock star has a few skeletons in his/her closet.

  • Posted By: air35 @ 09/05/2008 10:26:24 PM

    if people would have done their homework instead of voting on speaches....... well you decide

    http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/senator-barack-obama-in-kenya-obama-and-odinga-the-true-story/

    or just google odinga nad obama

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 09/05/2008 10:56:57 PM

      Why don't YOU google Dingleberry? It is just what best describes your neo-Nazi candidates.

      The word "speech" is not spelled "speach" - could you at least try to sound intelligent if you're going to post something to the rest of the world?

      Thanks.

  • Posted By: Spooky @ 09/05/2008 10:07:04 PM

    Why when an article like this is written does it have to do with the color of one's skin? I am a person of color and I am not offended by this article. The reason is because I am educated and able to pick through the garbage and form and informed opinion regarding this article.

  • Posted By: Spooky @ 09/05/2008 9:58:10 PM

    Unfortunately in the "game" of politics many news organizations believe that sensationalism is the the way to sell their product, so they bait we the people,
    As educated, literate people we can surely see past the rhetoric and form independent opinions for ourselves.

  • Posted By: Spooky @ 09/05/2008 9:54:58 PM

    SlicRic what is the racial undertone you are referring to?

  • Posted By: Spooky @ 09/05/2008 9:53:11 PM

    darleneev what is it that you are so defensive about?

  • Posted By: air35 @ 09/05/2008 8:42:38 PM

    lets see cause his assotiations as a potus canidate do relate to the person. dems have been all over sara and nothing of this severity is around her. now newsweek i would like to see a story on joe bidens brother and son and the felony charges against them filed on aug 24 08 dealing with them being lobbiests and hedge funders and fraud. thanx for a little fairness in reporting

  • Posted By: SlicRic in SacTown @ 09/05/2008 8:35:55 PM

    Newsweek is a respectable reporting agency and I know this article is a story that should be mentioned.

    But, why would you consider the discretions of Mayor Kilpatrick's, a reflection on Barrack Obama? Let's see! There was outrage that the media even pointed out the Gov Palin's 17 year old daughter was pregnant and she is the person that raised her. Yet, the Mayor is a grown man, adult age, and yet, the next president of the United States is suddenly guilty by association because they had a "man hug." There is an underline racial tone to this message. By the way, UofM, is one of the first universitiy's to bring attention to the lack of minority enrollment. I'm sure there were a few white americans from UofM who's intention was to have the issue addressed. And, I am a HUGE Ohio State fan. So, it's hard to say kind words about UofM. However, that was a classy thing to do to increase minority enrollment.

    As far Jeremiah Wright and the former activist who did what he was doing when Barrack Obama was 8 years old. Wow, he must infected. That is a riduculus thing to say. You know what I think is funny. White americans pay top dollar to see Oliver North speeches all over the country and he receives $1M per speech. But no one talks about or associates him with one of the largest drug scandals in US history. Nor, does anypne ties president Reagan to him. Interesting.

  • Posted By: SlicRic in SacTown @ 09/05/2008 8:31:29 PM

    Newsweek is a respectable reporting agency and I know this article is a story that should be mentioned.

    But, why would you consider the discretions of Mayor Kilpatrick's, as an issue or reflection of Barrack Obama? Let's see! There was outrage when the media even pointed out that Gov Palin's 17 year old daughter was pregnant and she is the person that raised her. Yet, the Mayor is a grown man, adult age, and yet, the next president of the United States is suddenly guilty by association because they had a man hug.

    There is an underline racial tone to this message. By the way, UofM, is one of the first universitiy's to bring attention to the lack of minority enrollment. I'm sure there were a few white americans from UofM who's intention was to have the issue addressed. And, I am a HUGE Ohio State fan. So, it's hard to say kind words about UofM. However, that was a classy thing to do to increase minority enrollment.

    As far Jeremiah Wright and the former activist who did what he was doing when Barrack Obama was 8 years old. Wow, he must infected. That is a riduculus thing to say. You know what I think is funny. White americans pay top dollar to see Oliver North speeches and he receives $1M per speech. But no one talks about or associates him with one of the largest drug scandals in US history. Interesting.

  • Posted By: elenak @ 09/05/2008 7:48:32 PM

    Tell me who your friend and I'll tell you who you are. That is what we used to say in Russia.
    Dem's have chosen the guy, who's spiritual mentor is America hating racist, personal friend is a terrorist,
    another friend is indited for corruption, he was the only guy on a Senate floor in his state who came into defense of infanticide. Now this....

  • Posted By: jstooie @ 09/05/2008 7:40:47 PM

    "Michigan voters overwhelmingly approved a ballot proposal outlawing affirmative action......an ominous sign for Obama" Uuuuuhhh, WHAT?? An ominous sign?? That simply stated that people in the state of Michigan want it fair across the board, not that ' Da Man' won't have the likes of Senator Black Man as President, quite the contrary. Stop with the stories that attempt to insight negative stereotypes in the stupid amongst us. Did you ever think that, due to such a large number of Blacks, Asians, Arabs and Mexicans in the area that We the People of the State of Michigan, might actually be MORE accepting of the idea of a person with a different paint job then one of us could actually become president? Quite a nice thought actually........

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/05/2008 7:38:35 PM

    The idea that this is a ''racist''article is garbage. How America will move beyond such issues,when cackling baiters bring it up over and over again is beyond me,beyond Obama,and beyond just about everyone else who do not see racists crawling out from beneath every rock. Naughtons pardner,Jeremy McCarthy,saw ''shotguns being fired in the air'' by the assemble at the RNC Convention. ''Too white''

    Big deal. Every man or woman of colour that crosses the line into a convervatives ranks many of you dismiss as a ''token''or an ''uncle tom''anyway,and then have the crass temerity to whine that the Republicans are ''too white''. Heres a newsflash. Under this quite ''Republican''administration,more black women than ever before in our nations history graduated with doctorate degrees. More blacks own businesses. More are homeowners. How can this possibly be in such a ''racist,fascist'' system?
    The numbers,unlike the ideologues,do not lie. One can argue that ''Bush''has ''screwed this country''for eight years. Yet crooked pols have been screwing Detroit for decades,one right after another. If people do not begin to move beyond race,you will get the kind of government you deserve. One can nail the DeLays and the Stevens with efficiency,yet what one damned thing has the Queen of Watts,Maxine Waters,done for her district lately,other than to see it turn into a shooting gallery? What of Conyers,who helps represent Detroit? Or slick NYC pols who tool around in gas guzzling limos on the taxpayer dime promising Bread and Circuses? No way. McCain is not so white,Obama,not so black.[and African Americans need to get their heads checked if they are going to fall for the BS trotted out by their guilt-ridden white Democrat liberal brethren,who as you see,do not live in downtown Detroit,Compton,South Philly,Richmond,West Oakland,or anywhere where they can hear the sound of gunfire and sirens]. All have minds. Use them,instead of falling for propaganda posters.

    www.edu.gov

  • Posted By: Bruna25 @ 09/05/2008 7:32:58 PM

    Keith, you are an idiot. You treat Black people as if they are one monolithic mind, body and soul. Apparently you embrace the notion of the invisible "black community" however there is no "white community." Lumping all black people together is both ignorant and intellectually lazy. I guess it's more convenient to insinuate your own biases and apply merit where none exists. The prism by which you view the world is too myopic and negatively affects your competency and judgment as a journalist. I implore Newsweek to send you back to school.

  • Posted By: notunderage @ 09/05/2008 1:27:09 PM

    This is as ridiculous as trying to tie Obama to a few misspoken ministers and priests while trying to paint him as a Muslim. The stretch is about stretched out.

    • Posted By: MoJabar @ 09/05/2008 1:33:05 PM

      Obama could no more "disown Rev. Wright than he could his own white grandmother."
      So long grandma....I've got an election to win.

      • Posted By: raddave @ 09/05/2008 6:21:00 PM

        Obama has not disowned his "white" grandmother you idiot.

        • Posted By: lalahakbar @ 09/05/2008 7:27:36 PM

          But he would, if he thought it would help him to win. These are his words, not mine. He said he could no more "disown Reverend Wright than he could his own white grandmother." He disowned Rev Wright, so the grandma must have been disowned too. Or will be soon.

      • Posted By: vinman @ 09/05/2008 1:38:29 PM

        Where are all his freinds from Harvard and his Chicago community to speak up for him? Where are all the testimonials? He has NONE.

  • Posted By: OldUncleTom @ 09/05/2008 3:32:32 PM

    I'll give Sarah Palin a "pass" on her prior associations with Ted Stevens and his ilk before she decided to help him "retire".
    I'll also give Barack Obama a "pass" on his friendly association with a major urban leader in his party, who apparently has problems controlling his private parts (Slick Willy, anyone?) With the exception of lying about things, no real crime has been committed here that I can see.

    • Posted By: MoJabar @ 09/05/2008 3:43:15 PM

      Bill Clinton lied to a Federal Grand Jury while under oath. Kwame Kilpatrick also lied under oath. Not a trivial thing when truth is the standard of law, and when one is under oath.

      • Posted By: halokita @ 09/05/2008 4:14:32 PM

        Kwame's main injustice was to his wife and family and he did what a lot of cheaters do when they get caught, he llied. What does that have to do with Obama? Unless they ahd 3-way texts with the lady in question, nothing at all.

        • Posted By: lalahakbar @ 09/05/2008 7:23:18 PM

          halokita, would you lie under oath? Do you think that's no big deal?

      • Posted By: Keepinguponfacts123 @ 09/05/2008 4:29:23 PM

        Hmmmm....let's see, there seems to be something about treason in this administration. Do you recall the details?

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