What Hillary Should Say Now

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  • Posted By: Saved2 @ 09/06/2008 6:26:16 PM

    Hillary Clinton - We need you to come forth and put this so call women in her place. The poor and middle class women of America can not afford more of the same; "change" is what we need not so call reformation from McCann-Palin. Palin agreed to be used to make a name for herself. She even exploits her own daughter who is 5 months pregnant which shows that her career is more important than her children.

    • Posted By: Socalnewsgrl @ 09/06/2008 7:27:29 PM

      I'm voting for Obama/Biden,and I agreewiththis poster about Sara Palin exploiting her daughter toadvance her career. Sara Palin does not represent Amercian Women and is being used as a pawn to promote the GOP aggenda. I can understand how the Palin family would desire privacy at this time regarding their daughter's decision. Well, this should be an EPIHPANY for tneocons to not politicize Reproductive Rights of Women...Enough smokescreens.!.... The real issues are the Economy, the War, Housing, Oil Prices, etc.....and most of all ..get those corrupt Republicans out of the White House!!!!

  • Posted By: wossenschmidt@earthlink.net @ 09/06/2008 7:26:23 PM

    Hey folks, Obama did not admit he was wrong on the surge. When asked if knowing what we know now, if we had to do it over again, "would he vote for the surge?" He said "NO!" Can you believe that? Here's a guy who cannot admit he is wrong and does not learn from his mistakes. For this reason, plus hundreds of others, he should not be elected president. Please vote for McCain. Keep our country safe!

  • Posted By: compvis @ 09/06/2008 3:20:34 PM

    Stop and think for just one minute. You would rather vote for some power centric (Biden) who is the epitamy of Washington insider, who is a man! and has nothing in common with you in life based experiance: than a women who inspite of some of your disagreements in policy is one of you, who has lived your life, gone through your gender based discriminations and challenges and concurred them. Well arnt you so smart. In spite of what you think if, after Ferraro, and Hilary if Palin does not get the support of women it will be a long time before the power structures of either party will grace their ticket with another women; and that is just a fact. Did you ever ask yourself why if Hilary had more votes than Obamma why is she not on the Demecrats Ticket. HMMMMMM maybe its because the are more sexist than the Republicans
    Jan Jesser Canada

    • Posted By: aleickwort @ 09/06/2008 7:23:41 PM

      "One of"n us? Palin does not represent my views or ethics in the least.

    • Posted By: Carol L. @ 09/06/2008 3:28:56 PM

      Yes, women need to fight sexism...but we don't fight sexism by electing a woman who is supports male positions on women's issues!!!! And believe me, Palin is being used by the republicans in a very cynical way. They do not, not have they ever supporter women's rights. McCain is using Palin to appeal to the hard right because she shares a lot of their 'views' on critical issues, and also to try to draw Hillary voters. But Palin will never get Hillary voter support with her 'positions' on issues critical to women's lives.

  • Posted By: burguy @ 09/06/2008 7:18:00 PM

    Posted that twice... sorry!

    • Posted By: shianne55555 @ 09/06/2008 7:23:18 PM

      It's ok, you didn't have much to say anyway.

  • Posted By: CAnnie @ 09/06/2008 7:22:49 PM

    Wow! I wholeheartedly agree with you. John McCain sought to appease 2 segments of the population with his selection of Sarah Palin: women who wanted Hillary Clinton but who don't pay attention to detail;and , religious fanatics. Her acceptance speech should allow her a chance in the finals of, "Last Comic Standing." I am tired of every election for the last 20+ years being based on Roe v Wade. ENOUGH!
    Voting McCain/Palin is a kick in the face for Hillary Clinton and women's rights! We have definitely not heard the last from Hillary. You're right, she did need a rest . Hope we see her campaigning for Obama and poignantly stating how very un-Hillary Mrs. Palin is!

  • Posted By: burguy @ 09/06/2008 7:06:17 PM

    Hillary should tell Obama to go pound sand, which is exactly the message her silence is sending. Obama decided he didn't need her when he went with Biden, remember?! Reminder to Clinton supporters: HILARY WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT IF OBAMA IS ELECTED! My advice: Sit this election out so she has a chance in 2012. That is what she's hoping for too, and that is why her support for him will always be forced and lukewarm, at best.

    • Posted By: shianne55555 @ 09/06/2008 7:20:30 PM

      That's why her silence will be out campaigning forcefully on Monday and many days after that. Try and report facts. I know you do not want too, but try it sometimes.

      Hillary will never let a hillbilly, moose killer, from Alaska take what she has rightully earned. Hillary is a force and moose killer is a red neck wannabe. Now that's the facts.

  • Posted By: Eagles_Heart @ 09/06/2008 7:17:54 PM

    Well, Patti, give Hillary a break; she has earned it. Personally, I am interested in you and your... opinions. How come Ronald Reagan's family-rebellious daughter (to the point of, before your marriage, refusing to use the family name and self-sterilized yourself, you are quoted as saying, to avoid passing on the Reagan genes... how come you, a born-again self-styled Feminist are sounding so old-fashionably female in this article?

    You say, "We do not see rudeness and snarkiness and sarcasm as admirable; in fact, most women teach their children not to treat others in that manner, and they tend to steer clear of adults who never learned that lesson." Now is that what we mother's, us stereo typical wives and mothers teach our kids? Nancy Reagnon, nor your dad's first wife, Jane Wyman, quite manage to do that with you, did they.

    Now, "we" as you put it, "respect the right to raise and educate their children as they see fit." Yet, in the next breath, you obviously wish to deny Sarah Palin that right. She is "imposing" her values upon her daughter. A mortal sin if she does it, an inalienable right if you do it?

    Logic isn't exactly your best suit, is it Patti.

    And as for accurate journalism, you flunk. There is nothing proposed by Pro-Life advocates that interferes with your right to choose... whether you have sex or not with or without marriage or commitment. THAT CHOICE IS DEFINITELY YOURS. No argument.

    But, your choice has been exercised. You CHOSE irresponsible sex. You wanted the game... not the name!. Well, your freedom stops at the nose of the human you created. Your fun and games does not sanction murder. That is also in the Bill of Rights.

    I've always been amused by the "choice" of rallying cry... "Pro-Choice" ... to mask the self-indulgent, ego-maniacal dedication to casual, mindless bed-hopping, in the vain (and insulting) fol de rol of turning yourselves into "Little Men." (Abject apologies to Louisa May Alcott)

    For you wimmin to select stereotypical and ubiquitously imagined traits of the human Male is male-bashing from the git go. Yes we needed ERA; what we do not need is the extrapolation of that legislation into a debasing ethical code. (I avoid the word "moral" as it is so subjective.)

    You and your similarly blinder-tacked colleagues are awakening a sleeping giant, and not just a masculine one. And not just females who disagree with you, either. As Feminists are interpreting ERA-Feminism today it is initiating the reverse swing of the cultural pendulum...

    And I dread the effects of you and your noisy cohorts shoving that swing into a New Age Puritanism. The story of human-kind is, of course, exactly that... swings of human behavioral pendulums... as inevitable as the cyclic Ice Ages of hundreds of millions of years since the birth of planet Earth.

    In such a scheme... you are a blip in humanity's eye. And the reaction, inevit

  • Posted By: burguy @ 09/06/2008 7:16:59 PM

    What Hillary Should Say Now: "Hey Obama - go pound sand! You decided you didn't need me when you went with Biden, remember?!" In fact, she's already saying it. That's the message her silence is sending loud and clear. She dutifully spoke at the convention, but that's about the best we'll get from her. Why? HILLARY WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT IF OBAMA IS ELECTED!! My advice to those who want to vote for Clinton someday is to sit this election out. Let McCain get elected so Hillary can run in 2012. That is what she's hoping for, and that is why her support for Obama will always be forced, and lukewarm at best.

  • Posted By: wossenschmidt@earthlink.net @ 09/06/2008 7:16:47 PM

    Hey folks, Obama did not say he was wrong about the surge! When asked if, knowing what we know now, if he had to do it over again, would he support the surge? He said "NO!" Here is a guy that cannot admit he was wrong and learn from his mistakes. Do to this and hundreds of other reasons, he is not qualified to be president. Please vote for McCain. Keep our country safe!

  • Posted By: RRuin @ 09/06/2008 6:59:57 PM

    Women don't need to wait for Hillary Clinton to lead them. We must as individuals lead ourselves.
    Sarah Palin is the anti-Hillary. While Hillary Clinton is pro choice, Palin is anti abortion to the extreme.
    Palin has lied about every part of her record. McCain/Palin represent change? Are you kidding? McCain
    IS George W. Bush, just older and certainly not wiser. He's the poor student who grew into the man who has
    no interest in the details and nuance of governing. Of course Palin, the unqualified, undereducated Governor of Alaska is as he calls her, his soul mate. She has the same reckless, rash personality that believes only she is right. McCain/Palin are two right wing extremists. Sure McCain has gone through his
    "maverick" stage to morph into the right winger because he so desperately wants to be called Mr. President before he dies.

    • Posted By: shianne55555 @ 09/06/2008 7:16:47 PM

      I don't know if I should say you go girl or you go boy so I'll say them both -- you go boy/girl!!!!!!!!!!

      She is what she is -- a disguise of a candidate. And for so-called HRC supporters who now support moose killer, you are a confused individual as the two have absolutely nothing in common.

      This is what McStupid was counting on, females voting on emotions and not the issues. That's McStupid's take on females, irrational!!!!!!! I'm mad because HRC was treated so bad, so therefore I am going to vote against my own interests. Real smart ladies, real smart. Thank goodness it is a very small fraction of HRC's supporters. They want you to think it is more, but it is not.

  • Posted By: reefer1960 @ 09/06/2008 4:28:50 PM

    Ms Davis,
    I am offended that you would presume to believe that being a woman was the only qualification that Gov. Palin brings to the ticket. So she's not your choice, that's clear. But please offer more than your mock offense to support your shallow views.

    • Posted By: aleickwort @ 09/06/2008 7:16:31 PM

      So you think its just a coincidence that McCain passed over several more qualified men and selected a woman without even properly vetting her? Gimmick.

  • Posted By: jsaston-n-texas @ 09/06/2008 3:22:05 PM

    Since this is article is shrouded behind the title "opinion", I suppose it's OK that it's so absolutely and outrageously biased.

    Shame on you Patti Davis. Shame on you for not looking past your political biased to see that Sarah Palin is just as smart, bright, and qualified as Hillary Clinton. It's easy to be judgmental, isn't it. Why don't you try something difficult? Set aside your left wing political rhetoric and judge Sarah Palin for her strengths and qualifications. Cause it sounds like the only thing you really regret is that Palin isn't Clinton. Well, you had your chance to nominate Hillary, but all you crazy biased media nut jobs were too busy being star struck by Obama to elect your better candidate. So now, you're stuck with an inexperienced and likely non-electable down the stretch candidate. Get off Sarah's back, you guys made your bed, now lie in it.

    • Posted By: aleickwort @ 09/06/2008 7:11:47 PM

      strengths and qualifications: so, are you talking about the ethics violations, the abuse of power, or the fact that she has about zero experience?

  • Posted By: hmmmmm77 @ 09/06/2008 4:26:48 PM

    Sarah Palin is a smokescreen the Repubs came up with to divert attention from the real issues that need discussion in this election, and the sooner those of us that believe our country can't survive another 4 years of Repub rule realise it, the better.

    On the issue of whether Hillary should be out on the campaign trail in support of the Obama-Biden ticket - I'd say that as one of the standard bearers of the Democratic Party, and an effective campaigner, of course she should (and so should Bill for that matter) - at least if she expects my support and the support of many Democrats for any future run at the White House.

    As a male Obama supporter I'm not going to claim to understand the depth of frustration that some Hillary supporters feel regarding the nomination process. But the irony of Hillary supporters moving to the Repub side - and from reading the comments here you'd thnk that was most of them, just keep in mind you can be anyone on the Internet - seems rather obvious. Not only does the Repub ticket go against pretty much everything Hillary stands for (as she has said herself), but going Repub to "punish" the powers that be plays right into the classic stereotype that women aren't good leaders because they make decisions based on emotions rather than logic. Is that really the message that this group of women want to send?

    • Posted By: Carol L. @ 09/06/2008 6:23:29 PM

      This is nonsense. While this Hillary voter seriously considered voting for her in November, I've decided to vote for Obama to stop the republican devastation. However, women who choose to vote for Hillary are not voting from emotion, but are using their vote, their voice and their power to make a very clear, very powerful statement to the DNC and the media. If you want to 'blame' someone, blame them for their actions in interfering with an election and working to influence voters.

      • Posted By: hmmmmm77 @ 09/06/2008 7:11:27 PM

        I didn't say Hillary voters voted for her out of emotion - what I said was that Hillary supporters voting for the Repubs to "punish" the DNC (as well as the millions of us that will continue to suffer under another Repub regime) for their alleged mistreatment of Hillary is an emotional response, not a logical one. And the reason I say alleged is because from what I could see there wasn't a clear consensus among unbiased observers that what happened to her was out of the mainstream for a tough political race. But as I acknowledged in my original post, I'm not in the best position to judge that, and I respect the fact that many of her supporters (incl. my wife) feel betrayed. All I'm asking is that those supporters make their decision this Nov on the issues, and not out of revenge. Even tho I wasn't happy with the way she treated my candidate during the race, I would have fully suuported her in Nov if she won the nomination (and have in fact made a donation to help her retire some of her campaign expenses).

  • Posted By: Buddboy @ 09/06/2008 5:45:52 PM

    If this quote is true ... " We do not see rudeness and snarkiness and sarcasm as admirable; ..." Then how the heck could you actually ever have supported Hillary Clinton?

    • Posted By: JLS1111 @ 09/06/2008 7:07:51 PM

      THANK YOU!!!! That's EXACTLY what I thought!

  • Posted By: ocmomof2girls @ 09/06/2008 3:37:48 PM

    First off, it was insulting to all women that Barak Obama didn't nominate Hillary for his Vice President nominee. Joe Biden is very much the old Washington we are trying to distant ourselves from. As for Sarah Palin, I find her to be a very strong woman. One that would probably kick her husband to the curb if he cheated on her. McCain has always been someone that is willing to stand up against his own party and that is why many Democrats even like him. Sarah Palin strengthens the ticket even more and makes my choice this November much clearer. Bravo for McCain for doing what Obama should have.

    • Posted By: aleickwort @ 09/06/2008 7:05:57 PM

      Speak for yourself. I'm a woman and a Hillary supporter, but I'm not insulted in the least. Palin insults me. What a gimmick. A total dog & poney show. If Hillary supporters get in a miff and vote for McCain, then they are fools, because Palin is the absolute antithesis to everything Hillary stands for.

  • Posted By: ohioindependent @ 09/06/2008 7:00:56 PM

    Dear Women who are waiting to hear from Hillary:

    I went into the convention season as a registered independent, and assuming I would vote for John McCain. The honest truth is that I was voting against Obama, I admit it. But after all of the "snipping" that followed the obviously hollow praise of John McCain (Oh, Ms. Davis, I apologize. "Snipping" should be used as a strictly sexist term to describe a strong WOMAN speaking, not a man. Let me re-phrase that).

    After all the Trash talking (No, hang on, I think I'm in error here again. Democrats don't trash talk. They "Strongly critique"), ok, after the critique-ing that Biden and Obama did to John McCain I waited to see this new nominee. Dhe had my interest, and my expectations were low. But she was sharp, that is right. And she DID call them on their own words, that is right. And she DID point out their fallacies, that is right. But if Dick Cheney had given the identical speech, would you have said he was "SNIPPY"?

    Somehow I doubt it. And in the fairness that has become the dogma of the Democratic Party, I don't think anyone should answer that, because it might make you question some things. And I would hate to have you
    start doing that, God forbid!

    So I will close my observation about you calling Mrs. Palin "Snippy" because she is a woman with the information on:
    Whether I am a woman Independent or a man.
    Whether I am White or Black.
    Whether I am young or old.
    Whether I was a Democrat when I first registered to vote or a Republican.

    Because the answer to all of those is the same answer as judging a successful, strong, intelligent ,principled person based on whether that person is a man or a woman.

    And that simple answer is:


    It JUST DOESN'T MATTER.

    So...Was I Snippy... or not?

  • Posted By: Drdike @ 09/06/2008 6:58:29 PM

    What the GOP must understand is that a pig is still a pig when you put a lipstick on it. Sarah Palin is the "lipstick" that was carefullly and meticulously put on by McCain to window-dress the 8 years of failed economic and political policies of the GOP, which McCain is fighting to extend for the next for years.

    There's no doubt that explains why Sara Palin will not answer questions from the press or grant any interviews from the press. This is well orchestrated by GOP. McCain and the GOP understands that American people are dumb and stupid and can be fooled as long as you continue to lie to them.

    If Sara Palin were picked by Democrats the religious bigots of the GOP will have being yelling and screaming about traditional family values centered around the mother being home to raise the children. But now they have tight lip about McCains pick of Sara Palin. Hypocrites. They will not condemn pre-marital sex of a teenage daughter of GOP VP pregnant out of wedlock. For the religious bigots and hypocrites of the GOP this is not a sinful and abomination to the the family and to God

    The hush hush surrounding Sara Palin's pick as VP, without being vetted is a calculated act of the greatest deception to American people to ignore the failure of eight years of Republican Administration. McCain should be ashamed of himself by saying that he put this country first, when he does not care how many Americans have died in war that should not have being authroized. He is urging American people again to stand up and fight wars, stand up and fight wars, stand up and fight war, he chants in his war chant. Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over, again and again expecting a different result. When I see McCain I see an insane, McInsane.

    AMERICA WAKE UP FROM DELUSION OF McIsane. Wake up from the delusion and manipulation from the most dangerous uncaring people on earth who are bent on extending another four years of economic calamity and failure. The religious fanatics understands we are addicted to their oil and McIsane wants to extend this dependence on oil for another four years. So much for putting the country first, when actually it is a ruthless plan to plunge this country in another four years loss of lives, jobs, and hardship for this country. A vote for McInsane is a vote for insanity.

  • Posted By: cfap92 @ 09/06/2008 5:37:31 PM

    Warning to Democrats - this is a big red herring, and you are falling for it - Palin is probably much more appealing to Hillary's male voters than Obama - and don't you think that may have been the idea after all?

    • Posted By: nifty55 @ 09/06/2008 6:54:38 PM

      Or...how about the concept the the Republicans leaked the info about Palin's daughter and then pointed the finger at Obama's supporters as the leak? After all, how would we even know -- or care for that matter, because it was a non-issue until they turned it into one.

  • Posted By: Robin1395 @ 09/06/2008 6:53:32 PM

    Here here Patti Davis. You have eloquently written what I feel. Although there is no way she could have changed my vote, I might have liked her if she had reached out and given a speech that was inclusive and inspiring. Instead she chose to be smug and snarky and rude. While I am perfectly satisfied with his level of experience, to those who are not I say wisdom, intellect, education and natural leadership abilities trump experience any day. Ms Palin possesses none of these. I believe she is going to wear thin on everyone very quickly - even those who loved her unconditionally from the instant she was introduced.

  • Posted By: tjb0728 @ 09/06/2008 12:11:35 PM

    Four democratic women in my family are excited about the Palin ticket! They are tired of the liberal smears, and found Palin's response to the criticism from the press and the Obama press appropriate and firm. Women love Palin. But please, keep attacking, it only helps America's cause. Obama's inexperience is dangerous for America and the entire world!

    • Posted By: JustAThough2008 @ 09/06/2008 6:52:44 PM

      No, "women" do not love Palin. Please do not presume to speak for me again.

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