pridurok
pridurok
Dear MacShane! Who let you pass judgement upon our country and our leader?
According to your article, I may say that you know nothing about us and about recent war in Osetia. Did you have any chance to see parts of bodies, mushed by Georgian tanks - they didn't attack military or gouvernement buildings - they were killing women, children and old people!!!
Please, don't pry into one's business!!! How many times the world critisized America for the war in KOSOVO? Did you stop? Did you follow world's advice? NO!!! You always do what you want and when you want.
IRAK. 3 thousand people were killed in NY (11 Sep.). I'm sure you know that quite a big percantage of americans and the whole world blames Bush for that. Terorism never happens without Gouvernement permission. For what? For OIL!!!! Who started the Irak war? You! So, please shut up and stop writing bullshit!!! You started war in Irak without any doubt and now you roll your eyes and don't stop saying:''Russia is cruel, . Russia attacked weak country." Of course, Irak is "really huge and strong country" to fight with!!!!
May be you better look at your problems first? The crisis you're experiencing now influences the World's economy while you're discussing Russia as if you have nothing else to do.
Pay your special attention to general education you give to your children. They still think that Russia is the same size as California!!!! I had chance to live in the USA. The majority of teenagers seems stupid for us, but not because they were born like that - because you didn't manage to educate them proprly.
Please, run your own business!!! our polotics, policy, leader IS NOT YOUR BUSINESS!!!!
Interestingly enough how Mr MacShane's (former M.P. as I turned out glancing one of his previous articles) generally liberal beliefs live together with his repeated complains about Montenegro full of Russian oligarchs and rubles. That is liberal economy, Mr MacShane!! Another thought - may be respectful M.P. was simply mistreated by a Russian oligarch on the way to the Montenegro beaches? That would explain a lot to an old fellow Freidist ???
*** you Denis and USA. All that you saw it is false. It's ms'r Bush whou say you that? All americans it's a stupid people. And in Europe it anderstand wery well. The world it's not only tou ***, stupid America. *** offff.
Article based on false and it is almost whole false. Russia just answered on Georgia attack of Tskhinvali city. Georgia killed civilians, including peacemaking troppers, destroyed many civilian houses, school, hospital, university and other humanitarian buildings. The Russian answer was requirement in this situation.
Article based on false and it is almost whole false. Russia just answered on Georgia attack of Tskhinvali city. Georgia killed civilians, including peacemaking troppers, destroyed many civilian houses, school, hospital, university and other humanitarian buildings. The Russian answer was requirement in this situation.
aggression, finally mister Saakashvili should understand it. We do not wait for kindness to Russia, it not in style of the American leaders, we wait that the following president Soedennyh of States of America "will be cleverer and more far-sighted" and as you Dart Weider becomes wiser in the statements, instead of it will be simple to shake cams womanly. Than ten different people lives in Russia, Russian, Karelians, Ossetins more, Avartsy, Dargintsy, Chechens, Chukchi and many other things, all of us a uniform fist, all of us a single whole, the People of caucasus, the North, the distant East, all with us so was and will be always, another's earth is not necessary to us but, there is a Russian proverb "Russian in the war the do not throw". Very much I look forward to hearing, I think in the USA many competent people which understand that all not as speak on ??????????????????????, I hope for your support. The Russian artist - designer Denis Ivanov
Next: The West does not surround Russia? Czechia, Poland, Afghanistan, Japan, unless there is not present objects of a military infrastructure of the USA? Unless the American ships do not plough Black sea, NATO membership is asked on what basis? Sevastopol the Ukrainian city You are not surprised that there against presence of the ships of the NATO the majority of the population? Because Sevastopol to the middle of 20 centuries was exclusively Russian city. Further. South Ossetia was a part of the Russian empire to an input there the Georgia then at all there was no division on southern and northern, there was the WHOLE Ossetia, Georgians have swallowed another's state without having learnt their opinion (the same and with Abkhazia) genocides there from the beginning of 20 centuries, trying to burn out the Ossetin, now everywhere shout "Territorial integrity! Territorial integrity!" Ossetins sobbed in a lap from that GRIEF that Georgians have brought it, they cried because of happiness when became independent, centuries Russian people for them the best friends and allies so was and so will be, and your TV in general has started to show in the beginning the conflict that Russia has attacked Ossetia, well same forgive a pornography such profanation and dirty lie!!! All your arguments concerning that that will be inflicted on Russia sanctions and so on... You understand about what write? Even to me to 24 summer guy it is clear that it is all a bluff, European, Asian and (be not surprised) the AMERICAN economy are interconnected, (by the way by the way, our gold currency fund blocks our external economic debts, and yours? How many ?????????????????? dollars America should the world? You know?) No sanctions are present and will not be, forget Mr. When the Russian army (for a long time already not red and not communistic, only idiots can consider Russian as communists) has started to bomb military men ?????????????? ???????????? it was a necessary measure of influence on the Georgian
Kind time of days. I am sorry for my English, at the school I learnt other European language, French, but I very much hope that will understand me, especially the author of this article, the author at which sick imagination will understand my words. Why I have decided to write? Because me to depth of soul has revolted and article of this person has offended, I read and I think that it was written by the person which heard about Russia only yesterday, according to the eight-year schoolboy, what you know about Russia Mr. Denis MacShane? How you can judge here so simply without what or substantiations serious, all your arguments, forgive "are exhausted from fingers", allow to ask, you were in Russia? I was in USA to me your climate was pleasant, pure streets, people were pleasant, I did not like that that they know nothing about Russia, know more precisely, but that show this that on your telescreens namely eternal winter, old grandmothers on benches near the small wooden houses, wake up Americans, clear up from this dream, Russia the Big Strong country, at us is not present eternal winter it at us only 4 months and that in my region northern, and in the south people of snow happens do not see, your films art do not reflect a life in Russia absolutely, is so much lie and propagation, even in Hitlerite Germany was not, me 24 years I the adult independent person, I watch a policy in the world since 16 years, I was ?????????????????? all world events, I very much worried concerning events on September, 11th I speak it openly and sincerely, I the witness of war in the Chechen Republic where the war beginning was necessary gangsters in ?????????? which was cut off by heads to Russian people. Only for that that they Russian, I the witness of war In Iraq which has brought many a pain to the Iraq people and American, am difficult to present that pain which tests mother when receives the certificate on death of the son, and then and the closed coffin, the same was tested also by Russian mothers when received coffins from the Chechen Republic, and now and Georgia where killed PEACEMAKERS whom that of relatives what Osset women and children felt when him pomegranates flied to cellars? What? I ask you Mr. Denis MacShane, you sing about a big-times politics, you think you know about Russia much, speak about myths, mister Putin - KGB? You are well informed on the biography of our prime minister? Further, the cold war, is not necessary to naturally any people war what it would not be warm or cold. You tell Russia did not humiliate? Your TV also humiliated and humiliates Russia with the rhetoric and propagation. In Baltic judge Veterans of the Second World War, only because they were in Red Army, Russian oppress where only it is possible and even where it is impossible already simply a policy of infringement, in the same Baltic states celebrate veterans Waffen SS and the europas looks at it with an approving smile.
Kind time of days. I am sorry for my English, at the school I learnt other European language, French, but I very much hope that will understand me, especially the author of this article, the author at which sick imagination will understand my words. Why I have decided to write? Because me to depth of soul has revolted and article of this person has offended, I read and I think that it was written by the person which heard about Russia only yesterday, according to the eight-year schoolboy, what you know about Russia Mr. Denis MacShane? How you can judge here so simply without what or substantiations serious, all your arguments, forgive "are exhausted from fingers", allow to ask, you were in Russia? I was in USA to me your climate was pleasant, pure streets, people were pleasant, I did not like that that they know nothing about Russia, know more precisely, but that show this that on your telescreens namely eternal winter, old grandmothers on benches near the small wooden houses, wake up Americans, clear up from this dream, Russia the Big Strong country, at us is not present eternal winter it at us only 4 months and that in my region northern, and in the south people of snow happens do not see, your films art do not reflect a life in Russia absolutely, is so much lie and propagation, even in Hitlerite Germany was not, me 24 years I the adult independent person, I watch a policy in the world since 16 years, I was ?????????????????? all world events, I very much worried concerning events on September, 11th I speak it openly and sincerely, I the witness of war in the Chechen Republic where the war beginning was necessary gangsters in ?????????? which was cut off by heads to Russian people. Only for that that they Russian, I the witness of war In Iraq which has brought many a pain to the Iraq people and American, am difficult to present that pain which tests mother when receives the certificate on death of the son, and then and the closed coffin, the same was tested also by Russian mothers when received coffins from the Chechen Republic, and now and Georgia where killed PEACEMAKERS whom that of relatives what Osset women and children felt when him pomegranates flied to cellars? What? I ask you Mr. Denis MacShane, you sing about a big-times politics, you think you know about Russia much, speak about myths, mister Putin - KGB? You are well informed on the biography of our prime minister? Further, the cold war, is not necessary to naturally any people war what it would not be warm or cold. You tell Russia did not humiliate? Your TV also humiliated and humiliates Russia with the rhetoric and propagation. In Baltic judge Veterans of the Second World War, only because they were in Red Army, Russian oppress where only it is possible and even where it is impossible already simply a policy of infringement, in the same Baltic states celebrate veterans Waffen SS and the europas looks at it with an approving smile.
But this is a struggle over Europe's future, and by understanding the key facts of the situation???and avoiding being misled about who is to blame for it???European policymakers will have gone a long way in figuring out what to do next.
To ask who is to blame for the "situation" is not a misleading: is the matter that makes the difference between an "invasion" and a military reaction to that one . In a nutshell: who has invaded who (first) ?
MYTH 8. Europe is divided. The surprising outcome of the EU Council was its unity in suspending talks with Russia on a new partnership agreement. From the leftist Libération to the right-wing Figaro, the tone of editorials has been very firm and hostile to Russian aggression.
Europe is still divided as it was and will . Suspendong talks with Russia on a new partnership, "Old Europe" has given a treat to new one (and sweden) to overcome i's hysteria about "Russian invasion", but indeed it was like shooting a corpse (at lest until UE will maintain the VETO system) .
MYTH 7. The next U.S. president will be kinder to Russia. The Republican candidate, Sen. John McCain, has said that when he looks into Putin's eyes he sees three letters: "KGB." Democratic candidate Barack Obama's running mate, Sen. Joe Biden, is a close friend of Mikheil Saakashvili and is a foreign-policy hawk. Of the policy of appeasing Milosevic by British foreign ministers in the 1990s, he said that he could hear the "tap, tap, tap of Chamberlain's umbrella at Munich." Whether McCain or Obama sits in the White House, U.S. policy on Russia will not change.
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Next president of the USA will do his best to defend the interests of USA, that can even not be the same of UE's (let alone Russia's) interests . The difference is Mc Cain (and his VP, it seems) will do it in a gung-ho way, that means unnecessary risks for USA and for all . Obama, I think, will act as a good and clever commander . That kind of commander, as Sun Tsu said, that not only knows how to win, but even knows when to win is impossible, and to fight is not worthwile .
I want to balance the article.
1. Its author expresses shock and awe about Russian tanks, planes, and warships, which he saw on TV. What about shock and awe of killed Ossetians and Russian peacekeepers, when they saw Georgian tanks, planes, and GRAD missiles? Denis MacShane doesn't care. Recall that Georgia was the firsrt who started a massive attack on the 7th/8th of August before any massive operations of Russia. Georgia killed hundreds of people in few hours.
2. The author does not know what the word "annexation" means or lies deliberately. He must be fired. Otherwise, I can imagine that the editor recommended to use this word because of the editorial policy.
3. I found no facts about corruption in South Ossetia. Nobody can show these facts.
4. The author does not know that Russia paid much money to plaintiffs according to decisions of the European Court of Human Rights.
5. Oh, my God! There must be another article concerning the discussion of "MYTH 6". I think South Ossetia is better than Kosovo. South Ossetia as an autonomy had announced independence in the previous century according to the same USSR law, which was used by Georgia to announce Georgian independence. Kosovars were not peaceful. They killed many Serbian civilians and destroyed many Serbian churches if I don't mention the Serbian houses. I agree that there are many Russian oligarchs in Montenegro but Russia did not push at all to get independence for Montenegro. I watched many Russian reports about this with clear meanings of Russian officials and journalists against the independence for Montenegro. The difference is that Serbia released Montenegro without pain but Kosovo is the cradle of Serbia. The idea that Russia would have stayed its hand in Georgia if Kosovo's independence had been further delayed is taken seriously by many observers in the region. The author does not simply want to khow about them.
6. Sen. John McCain has said that when he looks into Putin's eyes he sees three letters: "KGB." We understand that this is work of McCain's good imagination. I cad add that the American behavior in this conflict is driven by imagination more than by reality.
Let's create basis for peace, not for manufacturers of weapons
Boy o boy! Another know-it-all Newsweek writer pretending to be an expert. Russia should and can easily look eastward to China and find a more than willing ally. Although China did not come out publicly in support of Russia, you can bet your home that privately China has given Russia their full support. Another pseudo expert from Newsweek. Get some real experts, Newsweek!
The Russian Government is a representative of the people of Russia. Obviously, there are issues pertaining to Russia. How can those issues be addressed, in the interests of all concerned? If there are issues, then there is intent, to address those issues. If Russia is a capitalist economy, then why is there a perceived lack of concord with the other nations who contribute to the Russian economy? I personally am not pleased for either Russia, or Georgia, due to what has happened or is happening.
Wow... This article is the single worst piece of journalism I have EVER read... Denis MacShane should be banned from writing. I mean, lots of journalists write anti-Russian articles, which is fine by me, but this man is stating his own extremely subjective opinion for a fact. And also it is articles like this and people like MacShane that are making Russian so-called "victim complex" develop even faster. i dont approve of a lot of things Russian government does, but I would not be surprised if one day some 21st century Stalin will nuke Europe, because Russia and its people have been treated like garbage for 50 years. Ignorance is going to ruin this world. Mark my words.
More exactly:
MYTH 9. There is nothing Europe can do. Oh, yes, there is. Already parliamentarians on the Council of Europe have called for Russian membership to be suspended. The Council of Europe and NATO's Parliamentary Assembly are controlled by M.P. delegates, not governments, and there will be calls for Russian Duma members to be suspended as long as the Duma stands by its unanimous vote to dismember Georgia???also a member of the Council of Europe and the NATO Parliamentary Assembly. If Putin refuses to withdraw troops and end the de facto annexation of part of Georgia, Europe's G7 members could suspend Russia's membership and put WTO membership on hold. The EU should increase its presence in Georgia.
"Uh, terrible, uh, we are afraid ! :-) :)"
(translation of a comment from Inosmi)
MYTH 9. There is nothing Europe can do. Oh, yes, there is. Already parliamentarians on the Council of Europe have called for Russian membership to be suspended. The Council of Europe and NATO's Parliamentary Assembly are controlled by M.P. delegates, not governments, and there will be calls for Russian Duma members to be suspended as long as the Duma stands by its unanimous vote to dismember Georgia???also a member of the Council of Europe and the NATO Parliamentary Assembly. If Putin refuses to withdraw troops and end the de facto annexation of part of Georgia, Europe's G7 members could suspend Russia's membership and put WTO membership on hold. The EU should increase its presence in Georgia.
"Uh, terrible, uh, we are afraid !"
(translation of a comment from Inosmi)
MYTH 9. There is nothing Europe can do. Oh, yes, there is. Already parliamentarians on the Council of Europe have called for Russian membership to be suspended. The Council of Europe and NATO's Parliamentary Assembly are controlled by M.P. delegates, not governments, and there will be calls for Russian Duma members to be suspended as long as the Duma stands by its unanimous vote to dismember Georgia???also a member of the Council of Europe and the NATO Parliamentary Assembly. If Putin refuses to withdraw troops and end the de facto annexation of part of Georgia, Europe's G7 members could suspend Russia's membership and put WTO membership on hold. The EU should increase its presence in Georgia.
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