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Playing Russian Roulette in Kiev

The unpopular Yushchenko is promising to link Ukraine with the West, against Russia.

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  • Posted By: Markov1918 @ 09/08/2008 2:27:56 PM

    Savo, Russia has a moronic and drunken heritage, but I wouldn't bother pointing that out.

    • Posted By: streetwise @ 09/20/2008 12:07:05 PM

      Comment: Savo, Russia has a moronic and drunken heritage, but I wouldn't bother pointing that out.
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      Yes, Russian drinks not so social and do other foolish things every now and then, but the last US presidencies have reached and overcome them (especially about foolish things...)...

  • Posted By: Glenno @ 09/09/2008 2:22:42 AM

    Ukraine has always been divided between east and west, and the politics has always been focused on staying united as a bridge between Europe and Russia. When US pushes NATO on Ukraine they build a wall instead of a bridge in their attempt to "contain" or isolate Russia. 2/3 of Ukraine dont want to join a anti-russian NATO, respect democracy and stay out of Ukraine! Next election I hope America can avoid pouring in millions to "support of the democratic process" to buy a puppet and let them have a free election instead

  • Posted By: CivilAid @ 09/06/2008 8:39:27 PM

    Georgia and Ukraine should have been already in NATO.

    • Posted By: wderv @ 09/08/2008 8:09:38 PM

      Dear CivilAid, may we, Ukrainians, decide ourselves where we should be and where we should not? And now, even according to poll of ukrainian NATO-site majority of us do not want to be in your "beloved" NATO. And I was really pleasured to see that author knows the difference between President (which is counted as corrupted and not popular one by many of us) and Ukrainian people.

    • Posted By: St. Petersburger @ 09/08/2008 10:54:49 AM

      Dear CivilAid - regarding your comment that Georgia and Ukraine should have been in NATO already - Right - with the Russian Black Sea Fleet sitting in Sevastopol. Or what were you proposing to do about that? They are legitimately there until at least 2017.

  • Posted By: Savo @ 09/08/2008 7:59:47 AM

    The USA needs to have someone as an enemy all the time. So if nobody attacks them, they start rocking the boat or keep poking any trouble spot in the world until someone says 'I do not like it'. As soon as that happens, everything is forgotten and the whole USA concentrates on the new 'enemy' and how to break them. It is like a genetic part of their cowboy heritage and nothing can change their way to thinking.

  • Posted By: sangjmoon @ 09/07/2008 12:42:28 PM

    This article reminds me of the attitude of fear of Hitler's Germany as it began its expansion.

  • Posted By: Nyohnji @ 09/07/2008 5:01:12 AM

    A strong europe is not the one that plays not to the kremlin is it the one that neither is it the one that runs behind evrything said from the Whitehouse.If Europe wants to remain a credible international player in conflict resolutions,it must respond to crises emanating from ethnic insurgence with impartiality.It is wrong for the song to be be an anti russian rhetoric ringing from Paris to Budapest ....whi.sssssssssssssSsssSSSSaakhavili whwhwhy he had to attack

  • Posted By: El Sib @ 09/07/2008 4:20:24 AM

    Nikos Retsos, it's funny how Western magazines always seem to understand the problems and implications, but when they try to come up with a solution, their solutions only seem to be catalysts for the problems themselves. What this article tries to plant for a solution is exactly what will create a crisis in the Ukraine. What NATO should do to avert a crisis is not try to court the Ukraine into its sphere, but to try and come out with a compromise with Russia making it known that Ukraine is in Russia's sphere of influence while Poland and the Baltic States can remain within NATO's sphere of influence. If the Ukraine ever manages to join NATO, that would just be the catalyst for an internal civil war that would split the country in two. The solution that the article provides is therefore not a solution but the problem itself. And this is the inherent flaw in most Western articles about any issue. They like to see the fantasy, and not the reality.

  • Posted By: El Sib @ 09/07/2008 4:14:02 AM

    Nikos Retsos,
    Funny how Western magazines understand the problem, but always come up with the wrong solution. The solution to avoid a crisis is not to allow Ukraine to be part of NATO, but for NATO to work with Russia and come to an understanding that Ukraine is in Russia's sphere of influence. What this magazine article proposes as a solution to the conflict is the exact thing that will make the conflict boil into an all-out civil war between the Western and Eastern spheres of the Ukraine and, possibly, between the West and Russia.

  • Posted By: Retsos Nikos @ 09/06/2008 11:04:52 PM

    This article "Playing Russian Roulette in Kiev" is actually missing the most important Ukrainian politician
    if the Russian Roulette game ever plays out in Ukraine. He is the boss of the Party of the Regions, Victor
    Yanukovich, a former two times Prime Minister. He is very close to Russia, and controls the Eastern Ukraine industrial region established by the Soviet Union with its mostly Russian population. If the Yushchenko and Tymoshenko uneasy alliance alienate more Ukrainians, or disband again like the first time, Yanukovich would likely be the next president.

    There will be no necessity for a Russian Roulette in Ukraine because Yushchenko has lost his credibility,
    and he is a lame-duck with no chance of re-election or any future in Ukrainian politics. And cavorting with
    Dick Cheney was certainly the last straw for many Ukrainians who do not want to see the George Bush-Dick Cheney bedlam tit for tat warmongering game with Russia to spill into their country - as it happened in neighboring Georgia.

    Yushchenko's Orange Revolution is a deflated balloon now, and the Ukrainians realize that the pauper Russia during the Ukrainian Orange Revolution era is now a superpower to reckon with. And they know that if they allow Yushchenko to bring Nato in with interceptor missiles -as Poland does- then the Eastern
    Ukraine with the Russian population will become a new independent state like South Ossetia and Abkhazia. That is a real Russian Roulette possibility that the Ukrainians are not as stupid as Mikheil Saakashvili to play. Nikos Retsos, retired academic

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