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Listen to yourselves- it was Ronald Reagan that approved the Texas particle collider in the first place. You delude yourself, and possibly others that this is about politics- but this is really a symptom of disinterest in science by the American citizenry. Most, unfortunately, seem content to munch Fritos, listen to rap music, and watch the ball game than to contemplate the atomic structure of a black hole. Politicians of all stripes simply reflect the priorities of their constituencies, and unfortunately, those priorities seem to be driving around Cadillac Escalades, and consuming enormous amounts of hydrogenated oils. We are living in a world that is becoming smaller (and more polluted) by the day. We seem to be in denial, but that doesn't justify creating artificial stigmas associated with someones voting registration.

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A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote to continue America's decline into oblivion...these right-wing science-deniers are eager to chart the nation's destiny as an also-ran nation, an irreversible course; indeed, anyone looking in from outside the USA can see, that the USA needs a sea-CHANGE starting right from the top...OBAMA / BIDEN is the only HOPE which may begin the road back for the USA in all spheres...it's the last chance America...what are you going to do? Calling all bright young people...GET OUT THERE AND VOTE FOR OBAMA / BIDEN '08!

The most dangerous phase of CERN LHC operations are the ALICE Experiments, switching from proton beams to heavy Lead (Pb) ion collisions, scheduled - once financed in 2009. These experiments create hyper-density plasmatic luminosities, which could affect gravitational curvature vortices, that can continue into a compression singularity vortex. At this point there would be a streaming release of quantum 'ghost' radiation, producing supersymmetric exponential feed-back loops allowing for expansion and stability of an expanding quantum wormhole. This is also known as an expanded version of the Einstein-Rosen Bridge Wormhole. It has a brother/sister relationship to the more well-known Blackhole formations. Everyone is now invited to join the ongoing CERN LHC/ALICE/ATLAS Public Debate Forum through the following Url:
http://thefifthknight.blogspot.com/

Everyone is invited to join the ongoing CERN LHC/ALICE/ATLAS Public Debate Forum through the following Url:
http://thefifthknight.blogspot.com/

The general topic of American reluctance to fund scientific research has repercussions for general levels of education, learning, and health. High-energy physics has engendered many spin-off technologies of major value today in the treatment of cancer, in the development of instrumentation used in various branches of industry, and in energy research (as in, What is the answer to the fuel crisis?). U.S. funding for several branches of health research (including neurological diseases of the elderly) has dropped from levels of 25% of applications to 4%. In taking stock of the frontiers of physics research don't forget Japan, China. In their haste to get home for the Christmas 2007 holidays, our illustrious Congress nixed U.S. participation in another international collaboration in France. It took a big bite out of high-energy physics budgets for the two biggest labs in the U.S. by not reading the small print. Meanwhile, Beijing has a high-energy physics lab with better facilities and forward funding than what is left, after extensive layoffs, of the biggest U.S. facilities. It is not just the American contribution to big science that is at issue. It is also the ability of the American congress to make well-informed decisions.

I am an undergrad going hoping to get by BS in Physics in just over a year or so, and most Americans just don't understand how terrible the problem is or why it matters. Currently, out of a school of over 10,000 I am part of a class of four physics students. The class above me has four students, the class below me I believe has four as well. Of all my professors, in a Midwestern college no less, I can think of three that were born in America. Friends of mine admit to being turned off to science by family members who think science is out to destroy their religion because it claims reality differs from their beliefs. This religious war on science needs to end, and creationism and fundamentalism have to be stomped out of the mainstream for all our sakes. And don't even get me started on the culture of ignorance we have bred by funding sports over education. Athletic departments should be separate from schools, and funded entirely by the community they are housed in. Kids shouldn't get out of school for athletics, or music concerts, or art shows. These are fine to teach, but ultimately they are hobbies, and shouldn't be interfering with a child???s education in politics, science, history, and math. Oh, and I am glad the physics community is so diverse and that Europe is excelling, Im just ashamed that America isn't doing its part to further human knowledge.

I am an undergrad going hoping to get by BS in Physics in just over a year or so, and most Americans just don't understand how terrible the problem is or why it matters. Currently, out of a school of over 10,000 I am part of a class of four physics students. The class above me has four students, the class below me I believe has four as well. Of all my professors, in a Midwestern college no less, I can think of three that were born in America. Friends of mine admit to being turned off to science by family members who think science is out to destroy their religion because it claims reality differs from their beliefs. This religious war on science needs to end, and creationism and fundamentalism have to be stomped out of the mainstream for all our sakes. And don't even get me started on the culture of ignorance we have bred by funding sports over education. Athletic departments should be separate from schools, and funded entirely by the community they are housed in. Kids shouldn't get out of school for athletics, or music concerts, or art shows. These are fine to teach, but ultimately they are hobbies, and shouldn't be interfering with a child???s education in politics, science, history, and math.

I wasn't aware physics was a zero-sum game. Instead of seeing this as a decline for the US, I see it as a great advancement for science, Europe, and the world.

I live in the south, where ignorance, fundamentalism and creationism go hand in hand. George Bush, demonstrably one of our least educated presidents, panders to these factions. This is evidenced by his denials of most things scientific, especially in terms of warnings of climate change, his educational parochialism and commercialization of education, his "right to life" mantras, attacks on health care, his ignoring veterans' services, his rush to war and myriad other issues. Bush and the Republicans are anti-science and pro evangelist, and sell it to the ignorant and fearful at every opportunity. Yes, indeed, I place America's lag in science and healthcare at Republicans' feet. John McCain's VP selection of a relatively uneducated and inexperienced anti-abortionist, anti-sex education, gun-waving fundamentalist Christian hockey mom with too many kids and one too many of them pregnant is the latest insult to America. We have loons in the white House, and from all appearances, they seem likely to remain.

Why do americans have to turn everything into an "Us versus the World" argument? Many of the top advancements made in the United States following WWII where made by European scientists that where escaping war. Let's be realistic, math and science aren't strong suites of the American education system. What the U.S. does have are economic resources, much of which is being spent on other endeavors except social services, and definately not on education. I bet many of those 1,000 American scientists that are mentioned in the article, are not actually American, but are foreigners who come to study here under the tutelage of other foreign scientist. There are two points that I am trying to make. The first is that much of "U.S." advancements in science are actually part of an international coalition of scientist, the U.S. should be proud of being part of international effort, instead of turning science into an olympic event. Secondly, the U.S. education system, as far as science and math is concerned, has not been up to par to the European education system for the last fifty years. Not to mention that our government doesn't seem to take science seriously since it views science as a threat to religion, which is supposed to be seperate from the State to begin with. The U.S. can contribute more to science by investing in education, and since the Bush administration, investment in education has declined (www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/08/980825075401.htm). Ironically enough, our 20 million dollar bombs are being used to blast schools abroad (www.cursor.org/stories/civilian_deaths.htm). So yes Central Coast Chick, if you need to find a scapegoat, a good place to start is by blaming the leaders that promised change but didn't deliver. President Bush, who can't even make a complete sentence without forgetting a noun or an article, isn't excactly showing U.S. education supremacy.

I live in the south, where ignorance, fundamentalism and creationism go hand in hand. George Bush, demonstrably one of our least educated presidents, panders to these factions. This is evidenced by his denials of most things scientific, especially in terms of warnings of climate change, his educational parochialism and commercialization of education, his "right to life" mantras, attacks on health care, his ignoring veterans' services, his rush to war and myriad other issues. Bush and the Republicans are anti-science and pro evangelist, and sell it to the ignorant and fearful at every opportunity. Yes, indeed, I place America's lag in science and healthcare at Republicans' feet. His appointment of a relatively uneducated, inexperienced anti-abortionist, anti-sex education, gun-waving fundamentalist Christian hockey mom with too many kids and one too many of them pregnant. We have loons in the white House, and from all appearances, they seems likely to remain.

Well it's cool to blame Bush for everything - apparently it makes one feel better without actually doing anything. I note that the Superconducting Collider was proposed by Regan and Bush (elder) and funding failed under Clinton where the Senate and house both had roughly 10% Democratic majorities and Al Gore presided. I suspect we taxpayers should take credit for caring too little for public funding for hard science!

It's not hard to tell from the obvious slant that the authors of this article started with a thesis and are simply using the CERN story as its sole source of evidence. The story beneath the story is that the United States is not so much falling behind in fundamental research as it is demonstrating preeminence in sloppy journalism. The tired and uninformed refrain of "not enough money to learn the secrets of the Universe but plenty to kill innocents in the Middle East" is only the latest flavor of the reprehensible intellectual dishonesty that runs rampant in the press as well as the stunted, hypocritical mindset of the modern liberal elite.

This was a choice made by the US Congress back in 1993. Remember the Super Collider project they cancelled? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider If the Super Collider had not been cancelled, the LHC would not have been built and instead of all the scientists going to CERN they would be coming to the US.

They pulled ahead of us only because we're not willing to spend money on science alone anymore. Why $8 billion on something when Europe's just gonna do it anyway? Plus these experiments won't immediately be profitable. That's all we care about nowadays.

This was a choice made by the US Congress back in 1993. Remember the Super Collider project they cancelled? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider If the Super Collider had not been cancelled, the LHC would not have been built and instead of all the scientists going to CERN they would be coming to the US.

Ummm.. yeah, Heidilee. They started planning this 14 years ago. Where was Bill Clinton??