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  • Posted By: Maryyvonne @ 09/08/2008 10:43:54 AM

    You don't get it!! Believing that the embryo is a living human being cannot be compromised. It is absurd to say "the vailability of legal abortion actually supports...family structure...." If a pro-choice person were on the Republican ticket it would negate the possibility of many pro-life people voting for that ticket.

  • Posted By: Maryyvonne @ 09/08/2008 10:38:19 AM

    You don't get it!! Believing that the embryo is a human being cannot be compromised! It is absurd to say the availability of legal abortion actually supports the kind of family life...." A pro-choice candidate on the Republican ticket would negate any chance that pro-life people would vote that ticket..

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 09/08/2008 10:37:29 AM


    When the GOP held its Alaska caucus on Feb. 5, Palin didn't bother to endorse a candidate, despite personal appeals from Huckabee and Mitt Romney, her fellow social conservatives. She had never met or spoken to John McCain.

    But she indignantly dismissed his opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as the politically correct???yet wrong???position of "Eastern politicians." Palin finally got the chance to meet McCain at a gathering of Republican governors in Washington, D.C., in mid-February. Weeks later, even after the other Republican contenders had dropped out of the race, Palin still had not endorsed McCain.

    Preparing to go onstage March 3 in Los Angeles, at NEWSWEEK's Women's Leadership Forum, Palin was eager to quiz another governor, Janet Napolitano of Arizona, on her impressions of her state's senior senator. Palin said she still had "a lot of questions" to get answered about her party's presumptive nominee before she could back him.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 09/08/2008 10:32:33 AM

    When the GOP held its Alaska caucus on Feb. 5, Palin didn't bother to endorse a candidate, despite personal appeals from Huckabee and Mitt Romney, her fellow social conservatives. She had never met or spoken to John McCain.

    But she indignantly dismissed his opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as the politically correct???yet wrong???position of "Eastern politicians." Palin finally got the chance to meet McCain at a gathering of Republican governors in Washington, D.C., in mid-February. Weeks later, even after the other Republican contenders had dropped out of the race, Palin still had not endorsed McCain.

    Preparing to go onstage March 3 in Los Angeles, at NEWSWEEK's Women's Leadership Forum, Palin was eager to quiz another governor, Janet Napolitano of Arizona, on her impressions of her state's senior senator. Palin said she still had "a lot of questions" to get answered about her party's presumptive nominee before she could back him.

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    Roe V. Wade, Teen Pregancy & Abortion

    Forget the "Juno" scenario???in the real world, few unwed mothers give up their babies for adoption.

    If you do not allow teenage girls who accidentally become pregnant to have abortions, you are demanding that they either raise their children as single mothers or that they marry in shotgun weddings. By the numbers, neither alternative is promising. Unmarried teenage moms seldom get much financial or emotional support from the fathers of their babies. They tend to drop out of high school, go on the dole and are prone to lives of poverty, frustration and disorder.

    BIG NOTE: Only 2 percent of them make it through college by the age of 30. The Bristol Palin option doesn't promote family happiness, stability or traditional structure, either. Of women under 18 who marry, whether because of pregnancy or not, nearly half divorce within 10 years, double the rate for those who wait until they're 25.
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  • Posted By: Omaar @ 09/08/2008 10:27:31 AM

    The AIP: The Alaskan Independent Party....

    "Alaska 1st, Alaska Always" Party, The 3rd largest Political Party in Alaska !!!

    To the extent Palin has a governing philosophy, it was shaped by her political mentor, former governor Wally Hickel.

    The 89-year-old Hickel is a member of the Alaska Independence Party, which espouses, among other things, greater autonomy or even SEPERATION from the United States. (Husband Todd Palin is not a member of the party NOW, but he was REGISTERED as an AIP VOTER at different periods of HIS LIFE (Totaling 7 YEARS).

    Sarah has never been a member but attended a party conference in her hometown of Wasilla.) Hickel advocates an "economy of the commons," which would place the state's vast energy and mineral wealth in the hands of the state government and its citizens. In that vein, Palin this year ordered a one-time $1,200 energy refund distributed to each Alaska resident. (The revenues came from recalculating the tax on oil producers.)
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    Sarah is a Faker...Don't you...Mistake Her


    Dysfunctionality is a way of Life in Alaska !!!

    But the myth is contradicted by some inconvenient facts. Only 1 percent of the state's land is in private hands, and the economy is dependent on oil and other natural resources controlled by the federal government or Big Oil.

    As a result, nearly 50 years after statehood, Alaska remains deeply dependent on the federal FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR SUPPORT. .
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    Social ills are... RAMPANT !!!

    BIG NOTE: The State's Levels of DRUG ABUSE, ALCHOLISM, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE and CHILD ABUSE are ABOVE AVERAGE or AMONG... THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY !!!

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 09/08/2008 9:42:02 AM

    ATTN; HERE IS THE OBAMA PLAYBOOK ! GO TO THIS SITE AND READ ALITTLE ABOUT WHERE HE GOT HIS PLATFORM ! http://www.tysknews.com/Articles/dnc_corruption.htm NOT ONLY IS THIS OBAMA'S PLAYBOOK BUT THE WHOLE D.N.C.'S THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE IN STORE ! ITS NO SURPRISE THAT THE CLINTON'S AND POLOSI WORK OUT OF IT ! READ AND THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT OBAMA IS TRYING TO DO !

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 09/08/2008 7:48:00 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I THIS IS GONNA MAKE THEM POLL NUMBERS DROP EVEN MORE WEATHER ITS A MISTAKE OR NOT !

    • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 09/08/2008 8:59:20 AM


      Anyone who supports Gov Sarah Palin is crazy. She is literally an obnoxious person. John McCain showed how desperate and then irresponsible he was by picking her. Having her as Vice President would be a total embarrassment and ever having her be President would be white-knuckled scary, like playing Russian roulette with the country.

      • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 09/08/2008 9:07:35 AM

        i can say the same thing about obama after reading saul alinsky's book "rules for radicals" obama is following alinsky to the tee! check it out newswk i think you'll find it a strange coincidence! he's scary if you ask me alinsky and obama !

        • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 09/08/2008 9:11:02 AM

          here's a small excerpt from wiki:In his Rules for Radicals, a book that Alinsky ironically dedicated to Lucifer, "the first radical" [2], Alinsky outlines his strategy in organizing, writing,

          "There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution. To bring on this reformation requires that the organizer work inside the system, among not only the middle class but the 40 per cent of American families - more than seventy million people - whose income range from $5,000 to $10,000 a year [in 1971]. They cannot be dismissed by labeling them blue collar or hard hat. They will not continue to be relatively passive and slightly challenging. If we fail to communicate with them, if we don't encourage them to form alliances with us, they will move to the right. Maybe they will anyway, but let's not let it happen by default.."[3]

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 09/08/2008 9:03:06 AM

    EVERYONE SHOULD READ SAUL ALINSKY'S BOOK " RULES FOR RADICALS" IF THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE OBAMA GOT HIS POLITICAL PLATFORM TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT ! IT SHOWS HOW TO BE A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.. TO GET PEOPLE ON YOUR SIDE MAKING THEM THINK YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING FOR THEM.... ALL THE WHILE YOU ARE GETTING THEM TO PUSH YOU TO THE TOP THEN ONCE YOU HAVE CONTROL YOU USE THE CHANGE MANTRA BUT IT'S NOT THE CHANGE THEY WERE HOPING FOR ! GOOGLE IT !

  • Posted By: mccaincursingonyoutube @ 09/08/2008 8:30:07 AM

    You have got to watch McCain Curse this reporter on his plain. It is FANTASTIC!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCXOZpwT2ek

  • Posted By: emmalulu @ 09/06/2008 4:37:32 PM

    cont...
    it is simply left up to the parents to teach their children. I am quite sure that Bristol Palin knew full well all the ramifications of her actions, and she still made the choice to do what she did. She was an adult making her own choices, and those in no way affect her mothers political stance on the issues.

    • Posted By: froy1100 @ 09/08/2008 7:44:49 AM

      She is 17. She is not an adult, just a horny teenager. Too many hormones to think about consequences.

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 09/08/2008 7:34:33 AM

    LMFAO McCAIN GOT A BIGGER BOUNCE! THE ROCK STAR OBAMA IS WISHING HE HAD PICKED HILARY FOR VP AND WILL REALLY WISH IT IN NOVEMBER WHEN HIS RUN TANKS! OR IT COULD BE ALL THOSE AMERICAN FLAGS THAT WERE THROWN IN THE TRASH AT MILE HIGH! WHO KNOWS BUT ITS CLEAR THAT THE POLLS SHOW McCAIN WITH A 4 PT LEAD AND HIS BOUNCE STILL GOT 2 DAYS TO GO UNTILL WE SEE IT ALL! HMMM BYE BYE OBAMA!

  • Posted By: woohoo @ 09/08/2008 7:27:18 AM

    why was he even at the convention. them getting married does not make their situation better.

  • Posted By: snoozhe @ 09/07/2008 4:17:53 PM

    Mr. Weisberg's article does not tell the story of devastation and hurt caused by abortion. I took a friend and paid for her abortion when I was 21. Her parents offered to build a room on their house and let her have the child (and her mom would care for the child while she was in college) or facilitate an adoption. She chose abortion because she couldn't imagine dating with a child. I supported her and was I wrong. She got an infection caused by a dirty, legal, clinic in Nashville, TN. They said it would render her sterile (I haven't talked to her in years--so I'm not sure) and then she sunk into a sad life of promiscuity, drugs, and financial ruin. And my $200--it was blood money. My college roommate, her boyfriend "made" her have an abortion, then broke up with her--she was never able to have children. My other friend, aborted her child conceived from an affair, then mourned for 4 years while she tried to get pregnant with another child (she already had one child). Never once did I hear her call her now 10 month old child a fetus--it was a baby from 8 weeks in the womb. Yet, the one conceived by the affair--never a baby.

    Friends, this is not an easy issue--but there are so many families wanting to adopt and abortion, termination, "choice," these are not the best options for a pregnant teen. Note that Mr. Weisberg said 50% of teen marriages end up in divorce (the same statistic for all marriages), but 50% stay married. One of my best high school friends pregnant at 17 is still married to her high school sweetheart (25 years later) with 2 other children.

    I read these posts and hear so much hate and I'm not sure why. I don't hate any of you, though I disagree with you. Is there a chance for compassion on my side and yours? I love my friends that have had abortions just as I love my other friends, but their burden is a heavy one to bear.

    And I ask one last question, when any of you were expecting your first child--was is a baby or afetus to you? This is a telling way to see the other side of us that are pro-life.

    • Posted By: mcgreen @ 09/07/2008 11:33:00 PM

      Not everyone lives as privileged a life as Bristol Palin.

      We hear hostile remarks from the voting public every day usually something like ' why should we be expected to support the kid of some good for nothing layabout?'

      If you're poor and your birth control fails, you've got kids already you're trying to feed. It's a tough decision.

      If you've got a twelve year old daughter that ends up pregnant, she could possibly die / be physically damaged by caring to term - just because a girl is physically able to get pregnant, it doesn't mean she's physically mature enought to carry to term healthily.

      And not to mention the victims of rape and incest, all this is very real and very difficult for people.

      I have difficulty understanding people who natter on about being against abortion but don't lift a finger to prevent the cases that bring a girl or a woman to this choice. Why is our president against contraception?

  • Posted By: hfny @ 09/07/2008 9:47:50 PM

    Alaska has the highest high school dropout rate in the entire country. I wonder if it has anything to do with teen pregnancy. It is an extremely conservative state, maybe the most conservative of all 50, on tax policies and social issues. Teen pregnancy may be more acceptable there because the evangelical movement is very anti-abortion.

    I've been reading about Alaska since Palin got the nomination and it's a very different type of state from what I thought about it. It is a very wealthy state - oil wealth and there are no state or local taxes. This has affected water and sewer systems in some areas (no local funding due to no taxes, except property taxes) so they have sought earmarks and federal funding of state projects like building roads and improving sewer systems. Americans on average receive about 31 dollars per person in federal dollars, residents in some states receive more or less but Alaska receives the most per capita, over 300 dollars per person, ten times more than the national average. Their average household family income is one of the highest at $59,393, in the top ten of all states - they ranked 7th in 2007. I was surprised such a wealthy state received so much extra federal dollars. Their higher education stats are low and with their dropout rate, their emphasis on education appears to be slight.

  • Posted By: Alamerica @ 09/07/2008 8:43:06 PM

    Palin's decision to give birth to a Down-syndrome child was a crime; she not only trapped a human soul in a life-long jail, but also drained valuable resources from the society. Her daughter's desire to have free sex with wild boys violated the Bible. There is no family value under Palin's family-value mask. Is God damning America?

  • Posted By: mccaincursingonyoutube @ 09/07/2008 9:18:08 PM

    I don't get this. There are some places in America that doctors are killing babies after they are born. Abortion usually takes place before birth. After it is born, you are suggesting that the doctors in some states ask if you want to keep the baby or abort. And if at that time you say abort- he kills it. The Born Alive Infant Protection Act would have protected the baby. I have news for you. Murder is illegal in all 50 state and territories. We don't need a new law for that.

  • Posted By: mccaincursingonyoutube @ 09/07/2008 2:25:04 PM

    Do you really want your little girl to risk her life for a mistake that her limited world view may promote if she falls head over heels for a dashing young man who hormones controls 90 if not 100% of his thoughts? Just think, she will hop online find the person to abort and you get a call from the morgue to identify your daughter.

    We are just one justice away from over turning Roe Vs Wade.

    I don't believe in abortion or war, but I know the consequences of not having the option.

    • Posted By: Helpingpeople @ 09/07/2008 6:59:14 PM

      I absolutely agree. No one likes abortion - but any reasonably intelligent person knows how important it is to keep it safe and legal.

  • Posted By: allknowingone2 @ 09/07/2008 6:58:20 PM

    I expect as much stupidity from Newsweek.

  • Posted By: GregHere @ 09/07/2008 4:33:49 AM

    ...........................Now we are seeiing the dangers of Religion In Politics when we see the unwavering support the Republicans get from the Born Again Christians. We have been seeing the Fundamentalists get favored policies from the Bush Administration with their Faith Based Policies and support for appointed people who have the propper Super Christian Philosophy. Support of politics that aids religion and vice versa has increased the power of the Right Wing Extremists to where America is much less of a Democracy than when the Religious Right and the Televangelists started to gain major power about 30 years ago. It is time to get Religious Fundamentalism out of American politics!!!!!

    • Posted By: snoozhe @ 09/07/2008 4:43:02 PM

      GregHere, I guess I'm one of those "super Christian's" to whom you are referring. But I think you assume that we are all totally partisan, agree with everything the Republicans say--but you are stereotyping in the biggest way. We are your next door neighbors; we bring you meals, mow our yards, send our kids to school, have bad days and good. We are part of America, just like you. So my view is that we all should get our say and do it with respect and love. You should have a part of American politics and so should I.

  • Posted By: edsnow1953 @ 09/07/2008 4:31:21 PM

    thee two issues are completely separate. The idea that single women and children are having children of their own does not mean the conservatives are abandoning their values. Aborting unwanted fetuses would be abanoning their pro-life stance. the answer is to help educate these woman without resources like . Murphy Brown's and help them cope with their newborns. Aborting a fetus for convenience sake is not a conservative value and should not be. The more significant point is that these children are NOT DEAD. not that the only way they should be allowed to live is if they are brought into the world by a married couple. So good try Mr. Weissburg, but your reasoning is totally flawed. sesgvgc@yahoo.com

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