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Struggling School-Age Boys

A new study says parents are right to worry about their sons.

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  • Posted By: mayfieldga @ 09/02/2009 2:25:56 PM

    There is a growing Male Crisis in education. While I knew there is like a 62 to 38 percent graduation rate for college in favor of Females to Males, I found a site with Peg Tyre saying there will be an increase of about 100,000 more Females than Males going to college each year. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peg-tyre/who-says-the-boy-crisis-i_b_104172.html?show_comment_id=13400739
    This could boast the percentages of Female graduation to Male graduation to a point in a few years that will become so obvious the press may take hold of this problem before the education community desires its release. The reason I am concerned is if this is taken up by the press seeking an explanation, educators may point (incorrectly) to learning differences, need of more activity for boys, role models, and more tactile learning. I ???firmly disagree with??? this approach for it greatly smacks of genetic differences. I feel if such news and advice does come out in the press, this will set up negative synergy from news organizations, drama, and even sit-coms. This will then create again, much negative synergy from a very unscientific public that will begin to put Males and especially Male children under a microscope and cast doubt as to ability and intelligence for Male children in general. This will lead to much public ridicule from women, girls, teachers, and others in society. This could in turn set off an opposite equally or worst negative synergy against society by Males.
    If you can see this possibility, I have an alternative that even if incorrect, which I believe ???is correct???, will at least provide many good years to approach the Male Crisis from an environmental perspective and not one of genetics. This alternative, environmental approach will generate much more positive esteem, hope, and much more support from a general unknowledgeable society that would be more inclined to step up and help Males much more than the genetic models presented by educators. The genetics model I feel will lead to many problems for society down the road.

  • Posted By: mayfieldga @ 08/15/2009 3:16:23 PM

    Our society has greater need for information age skills that requiring different upbringing for boys. This is the reversal, In nineteenth century physical world required strength for boys and later men.1 Boys were given aggressive to compete in physical world. 2 Boys not given kind nurturing treatment for fear of coddling.3 Boys not given love honor respect unless achievement.
    Girls given kind verbal interaction from young age; given honor respect for being girls. This extends today through adulthood.
    Now means to make a living have been "reversed". Aggressive treatment given boys is still in place. This creates higher average stress that impedes learning and motivation to learn. Also creates higher activity less stability. Middle/Upper class kids do not have this problem. Lack of social verbal interaction create a lag in social and verbal skills.
    Girls now reaping windfall information age skills. Protection and care create lower stress and lower muscle tension, makes handwriting easier more rewarding. Kind verbal interaction increase mental, emotional social verbal skills. Girls use instilled social knowledge in school. Girls given love honor, respect) simply for being girls through adulthood. This allows for freedom of expression to vent gain support and more care. This is why girls mature faster than boys. These differences have been socially created.
    Boys have to generate feelings of selfworth; only given love honor respect on condition of achievement. Boys not succeeding in the classroom must generate this through other areas such as sports, video games, etc.
    Fathers are now unable to secure employment that is leaving boys and men to feel as second-class citizens. Also, there is terrible myth boys need more discipline or learn differently, more hands on training. This poses stereotyping of Males that activity levels are genetically based not environmentally produced. This could lead to societal acceptance of a caste system for boys trained to perform menial labor while girls trained for white-collar positions.

  • Posted By: mayfieldga @ 08/06/2009 9:32:11 PM

    Note first that nice middle to upper class kids do not have a problem with remaining seated and working in class. The differential treatment boys receive from an early age and increase in severity as they grow up is the problem. The world has also become more unstable for everyone. The information age has also made it much more imperative for boys to earn good grades to get a good job in this new world. The nineteen century belief Males should be strong allows various verbal and even physical aggression from parents, teachers, and peers. This creates higher average stress and more defensiveness in young Males. Also Males are not given kind, stable mental/emotional/social interaction and support for fear of coddling. This is why girls mature faster, have more mental/emotional stability and are able to use their acquired vocabulary effectively to learn more in the classroom. By society design boys are given love, honor, respect only on condition of achievement, status, power, etc. Boys much generate this in order to obtain those essentials for self-worth. If boys are not achieving in the classroom, they ???will seek out other avenues to obtain feelings of self-worth. Girls are given basic love, honor, and respect simply for being girls. This aids in stability and mental growth girls. Society has become much more information age dependent, much more unstable, and also much more power oriented. So in the last ten years the valve of aggression allowed from instability is allowed to be turned open allowing more aggression and neglect of Males, while the valve of protection due to society???s age old belief Females should be protected has remained in place as it was ten years ago. This is creating a ever deepening Male Crisis that will only get worse until Males are treated with as much kindness, support, stable interaction, and protection as Females. Complete learning theory with much more information mayfieldga@bellsouth.net

  • Posted By: BGMom @ 05/13/2009 11:58:31 AM

    It's true, we're living in an old school system in the new age of information. Schools are cattered towards girls, & most teachers are females that aren't trained to teach boys. So our boys are tagged as problematic. I understand some kids do have ADD but it's overly diagnosed. Boys are wired differently. My son's LA teacher suggested that he has an attention problem but... I know my son better that she does. He will not fake interest for a boring subject After doing some reasearch, I found a book that is very helpful to deal with my son's problems at school and also helps in our relationship with him at home. The book's name is Dreamers, Discoverers and Dynamos. the author is Palladino or something like that. Trust me, you'll be so glad you read it. I've already applied some of the tips that Palladino suggests and it's like magic. Boys have different learning styles. Recess should be worked back in the school curriculum ASAP for our son's sake. I have stopped pressuring my son to get all A's and now I make sure he knows how proud I am for just trying the best he can Bs and Cs are good enough, but if he gets and A...it's super! He's trying.

  • Posted By: Mamaof2 @ 09/10/2008 5:04:04 PM

    On Monday, I received a call from my four-year-old son's Pre-K teacher. Seems she wanted me to agree to sign my son up for a mental evaluation because - get this - she noticed he likes to chat with himself while playing or drawing, or running around on the playground. Now, he talks to other kids and his teachers too, but since he was "caught" talking to himself a couple of times, he needs to be "evaluated." My son is in a state-run Pre-K program (more on this in a minute).

    I pulled him out that same day. His last day there is September 26.

    This is what is wrong with these kids. These "experts" are driving them crazy with their over-analyzing and little boxes they want kids to fit in. And if you don't fit into that box, there is something "wrong" with you. Well, there was something "wrong" with Einstein and Picasso too. They didn't quite fit in the box.

    If you are not a strong parent, if you do not spend time with your kids and talk to them and know how they think and what motivates them, if you aren't there to love them and kiss their boo-boos and yes, discipline them, you will be one of those parents who don't know their you know whats from their elbows. And these kinds of parents buy whatever these people are selling. And your little boy, who more than likely is just a boy, who is rambunctious and wild and needs your love and attention, will end up in Special Education classes, getting mental evaluations, being put on Ritalin, and labeled in a system. These labels will follow him wherever he goes. And if you are involved in any kind of school or program run by the state, it is even worse.

    I work in a creative environment, and I notice people here chatting to themselves all the time - while writing plans, story ideas, etc. My husband, who has a master's in computer science, talks to himself all the time. I am a published writer, and talking to myself while working helps me think. I think this is a trait of a lot of creative minds - lots of thoughts, it helps you think.

    What is going on in this country? People, protect your children. Please!

    • Posted By: mammaov1 @ 05/05/2009 5:34:33 PM

      Hi Mamaof2
      You are right on the ball!!!!!! You sound like you are american, I'm canadian and I'm having a problem with my first grader's teacher if you can call her that, when i'm doing all the work! School has changed so much from when i was younger now everything seems to be disorganized, rushed and a bunch of nonsense at this age!!! things are taught backwards, and there is really no practice. There is nothing wrong with a child talking to himself my son is an only child and he spends half of his time talking to himself...WE ALL DO IT FOR GOODNESS SAKE. I don't believe that my son should change or be told he is different to just fit into their stupid standards !!! I think schools have gone to the dogs and they always complain they don't make enough you tell me what is it that they are doing to deserve more money !!! i'm doing all the work! My son is petrified of his teacher and he does not perform well for her his grades are horrible and yet the work he does for me at home he's excelling. I've had a stressful year and my son is suffering because of his teachers inability to teach!

  • Posted By: mayfieldga @ 04/13/2009 9:51:57 PM

    IWhile both boys and girls begin life equal, they are then raised from birth to be different. The boys are treated not by accident to increasingly more aggressive styles to make them tough. They are not given as much mental, emotional, social support for fear of coddling them. Most importantly and not by accident but by intent, they are increasingly given love, honor, and respect, the essentials of self-worth, based on measures of achievement, power, status, etc. This makes boys and later men much more competitive (by design) for this makes them try much harder in order to achieve those feelings of self-worth from peers and society. Those boys or men who do not measure up in some way will not only receive less honor and respect but will receive more aggression from society. In the information age, all of those areas have led to a large decrease in academic learning and in turn ability to compete in the information age. Women are surging ahead.

    Since girls and later women are not supposed to be strong this allows for much mental, emotional, social support from an early age along with much love honor and respect simply for being girls. In the information age, this support not only allows girls to mature faster but to do better in academics. This support continues through adulthood and now is showing up in economic advantages for women.

  • Posted By: laura38 @ 02/18/2009 12:13:34 PM

    Wow, I am shocked by some of the comments. More and more research has come out showing that our children are lacking unstructured play. This play allows children to develop cognitively, work out problems, learn to socialize appropriately. I did not hear anyone blaming working parents. We need to educate ourselves and child care providers to recognize the importance of play. I am working on that everyday. Keep up the fight! Our children deserve a childhood!

  • Posted By: raven k @ 01/23/2009 12:44:47 PM

    all this happens to girls, too. i don't know what kids you are around that spend too much time on reading and math...that would explain why our kids do so well in math and science compared with the rest of the world...please. wake up and look at the world around you instead of your current method of blind speculation.
    oh here's one: maybe girls are just smarter. and maybe a lot of people shouldn't have kids.

  • Posted By: makeawish @ 10/10/2008 3:40:56 PM

    How does the 1 in 5 boys in trouble statistic compare to say, 30 or 40 years ago? I'd be willing to bet it is the overall environment that has changed and not the boys. We are squeezing everybody into a cubicle .

    • Posted By: DoNoHarm @ 01/16/2009 12:12:15 AM

      I can think of one cultural/religious act that we have done to a large population of our boys at birth that became quite heavily performed in the U.S. since the 50's & 60's. If we were putting are baby girls through the same severe traumatic non-sedated cosmetic surgery, they too may suffer behavior/learning/emotional problems. Everyone deals with severe traumitic incidences differently. Some children/adults are able to cope and overcome past traumatic events without long term effects and some don't. Sometimes, we can't see the forest for the trees.

  • Posted By: Sallygirl @ 09/11/2008 10:19:11 PM

    Comment: What the author of this article states is all true but he never gets to the real point. The reason why kids are not out on the streets playing, over scheduled with activities, and overmedicated all falls back on one thing. Working parents. I am all for equality but 2 full time working parents can not raise a family. They need nannies, daycare, teachers and after school activities to do it for them. Seeing your kids for 2 hours a night isn't cutting it. They need to have a stable home environment. The reason why there are not any kids playing outside after school is because they are locked up in after school daycare and structured activities while mommy and daddy work all day. I guess mommies now want to feel empowered. Feminism makes them think they have to work and show off their money with materialistic items instead of stay at home to prove their "worth." How about empowering yourself to raise the kids you created into decent human beings? How about you stop worry about your McMansion, designer clothes and other non-essentials and teach your children what they need to know in this world. Let them see that YOUR priority is them. Volunteer at school, get involved in their life, let them have tons of freeplay, encourage them to be who they are, make them feel proud of themselves, hug and encourage them when they need it, and let them know you enjoy being with them and raising them everyday. Nannies and daycares do not care about raising your children into decent human beings. They are an adult body that wants to get paid, Period. As a previous nanny while attending college and graduate school, I saw and still see parents who both work until 6pm or longer everyday rushing home scrambling for dinner and getting any chores and homework done in a limited amount of time, exhausted and ready for bed before their kids even are. The kids are out of control come 8pm because they could barely let off any steam all day with their "structured" day and they melt before their parents eyes to receive whatever attention they can get from them in the short time they see them. Then the parents are frustrated which leads to the lack of discipline and the "friend not parent" issues. Then the kids feed off of this and do worse things for attention which leads to medication and doctors which then makes the child believe something is wrong with them. No one is to blame but the selfish parents who prefer keeping up with the Jones's instead of raising their kids. Case closed...

    • Posted By: Khagerman @ 01/05/2009 2:25:10 PM

      That sounds so great to dump everything on the working parent and lump us all into one. The only reason we are really working is have our McMansion and designer clothes? What world do you live in? Wouldn't we love to be able to stay home and take care of everything that needs to be taken care of instead of trying to cram a week into two days on the weekend. I don't work so that I can have a McMansion and designer clothes. I work so that I can put a roof (apartment) over my childrens head and put food on the table and hopefully some clothes on their back. And no that would not be designer clothes, that would be what we can afford from Goodwill.
      Do you really believe that us mommies that HAVE to run off to work everyday to provide for our children are really interested in the feeling of empowerment? My priority is my children. The fact that I was not born with a silver spoon in my hand and that I actually have to go out and work in order to provide for them does not leave me feeling empowered.
      It is obvious that you are one of the stone throwers with such a closed mind that you can't see past your nose.
      Not all of us working parents are out there everyday because it give us a good feeling. Most would love to stay home with the kids. Someone has to pay for their neccessities. Then there is the whole other topic of college. DId your parents work in order to send you to college or was the money just there. Let me guess, you worked your way thru college and graduate school all on your own without any help? The case is far from closed when we have such closed minded people such as yourself that want to drop blame on one particular group. How about the values children get from watching their parents go off to work everyday and realizing that things are not free in life and that if you want something you have to work for it.

  • Posted By: nigluc @ 01/04/2009 9:41:58 AM

    My son is 6 years old. At the beginning of the school year I was told he still read at a kindergarten level. I went on a wild search for what was wrong with my son. I found he had a severe phonemic delay ....which also may have been a coincident but he ahd lost his 40% percent of his hearing due to wax accumulation. This probably went on for a few years. Now I am busy sending him off to speech therapy and ...am very sure he is dyslexic. I don't want any label on him but guess what the school teacher says he may not pass grade one. So I am considering having him get his official LDA attached to him so he has a fair chance of making it through the system.

    This Christmas I bought an electronic circuilt board meant for 8 years ...he can now configure his own circuit designs yet we toil through school exercises like ' what are ten activities we do in hot weather,....what are 10 foods we eat in the summer.......boring. You know what we really need is alternative learning system based on children's learning patterns. Too young too know where a child's interest lie. I don't think so...As the child at the beginning of this commentary said..why does he need to know about wriiting a business letter. We are still in the same old Little House on the Prairie one room classroom. We need to redesign our school system. It is scary because we don't know where a child's interest lie but for those that are not enjoying their experience in school it is hell . That is where we can start.

  • Posted By: RandleSR39 @ 01/04/2009 12:34:56 AM

    This doesn't really have to do anything with the article but... I am a boy and i'm doing good in 8th grade. (straight A's) but just recently i got a detention. Reason being: i forgot my reading book at home for this not School District approved '0' period. we read in here for 20 minutes only because our test scores dropped by 1 point from last year. now i have a 2 hour detention. even my parents think that is dumb. i forgot my boo k at home because i was READING it at HOME. so i was doing EXTRA READING. but no they just have to act dumb. They didnt even give me a chance to explain myself. Also i've noticed that a lot of kids in my so called HONORS classes tap and shake their legs and feet alot. So do i. this is both boys and GIRLS. I dont know whats wrong with these people. Here's another problem with my district:
    In all classesHonors/Regular:
    Science: they make us learn about the periodic table, chemical reactions of metal ions, astronomy, einsteins theory of relativity etc.
    Math: they teach us quadratic function and higher level stuff. Honors: they teach Geometry( i have a regular class in math for having one point under on the last test wtf)
    English: how to write a business letter( when am i going to write a business letter at age 13) persuasive essays, fictional narratives( with pre chosen plotsNO CREATIVITY HERE) and other idiotic stuff
    History: the only easy stuff like american historical figures
    PE : even this is hard: they make us run 2 miles in 8 minutes
    Lunch: they give us 3 foods for about 5 dollars(where are we supposed to get this money

    And no recess or breaks just lunch and thats only 40+ minutes
    ONE WORD ON MY DISTRICT: IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    DISTRICT SUCKS ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    THAT'S WHY THE CHINO VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: lawmom03 @ 09/08/2008 7:40:25 PM

    Wow! This article speaks to (about) or son who ill be12 this week. We began to worry in 4th grade and have already seen a psychologist (twice) fortunately, the good Dr. agrees with much of what this article speaks to, which is that or son's school environment discourages any actions that are typical "boy" behaviors. The Dr. met our son and said that his mental health was solid, (which was such relief, I cried). Now, we struggle with getting him to buckle down and do his work. Fortunately, in his middle school setting, he has several male teachers (4 out of six, which is unusual) and I am hopeful that this year will be better. I will look for more on this topic! Thank you! (P.S. last year, our elementary school instituted a "no-competive sports at recess policy". It was the mot ridiculous thing I had ever heard and, in my opinion, takes away the opportunity for kids to have inventive play and to negotiate their own solutions. Sure, it was easier for the "playground ladies", but it did nothing for the kids!

    • Posted By: Hope4Equality @ 11/17/2008 1:03:55 PM

      I'm assuming by your user name that you are an attorney. The anti-competitive policies are indicative of a systematic strategy by women's groups against men and therefore boys. This is real and quantifiable. Society recognized that oppression of women resulted in girls having fewer options in life yet there is a total failure that the reciprocal is true. If you are an attorney and are objective then you must certainly understand the inherent discrimination that occurs in family and domestic violence courts. Concentrating on the educational system is displacement of responsibility from the true cause. Vilifying men DOES result in the deterioration of boys AND girls AND society. I would be very interested in hearing from someone with a legal background. I hope your son is doing well.

  • Posted By: Hope4Equality @ 11/17/2008 12:36:40 PM

    I'm glad this is getting some attention. However the point is off mark. Boys can handle everything girls can handle. So what has changed? Public policies that continuously and systematically alienate men and therefore boys. It's hypocritical that women understood that oppressing them resulted in girls being affected and their outcomes in life altered but it is not recognized that the same holds true for boys. I hope we don't go down the road thinking that it is our educational system that is the problem. Surely that can be improved but poor academic outcomes are a result not a cause (one of many detrimental results of the attack against males). The CAUSE is the policies that virtually make it a disease to be a male. Until we reverse the social agendas of many women's groups that claim to be about equality but are actually about advantage then we will see a continuous and more rapid decline in both boys/men AND our society. Equality should truly be equality and not about advantage. Blaming this outcome on biological differences or the educational system is flat out displacing the responsibility from the real cause. Of course you can take this as just another guy using an issue to make a personal point.

  • Posted By: nikcal9 @ 11/09/2008 4:18:27 PM

    I truly feel that the author of this article has made some very valid points. I work in a school myself and yes, there is a lot of truth here. Sadly, we have been forced to set aside actually educating our children and instead teaching only to a test. In today's times, we teach wide instead of teaching deep, and that benefits no one. I also agree that it is past time for us all to look at ourselves and honestly evaluate how our time, and more importantly how our children's time is spent in the home. I admit that I have not personally sat down and researched all the statistics regarding the differences in our boys versus our girls, but based on what I have observed over the years, I certainly am not prepared to just write this theory off as "babble". Nikki R. Callahan, What Do They See in Me, that I Don't See in Myself?, www.eloquentbooks.com/WhatDoTheySee.html

  • Posted By: cadbury @ 11/06/2008 7:29:03 PM

    People keep talking about brain differences between boys and girls, and boys being stifled by curricula that favor girls, and boys not being educated "in a way that respects their natural development" - whatever that means!. This "Boy Crisis" stuff is frankly getting tiresome. I have still not seen any convincing evidence that boys, except in extreme socioeconomic conditions, are at a disadvantage in school. If the perceived problem is no recess, parents should demand to reinstate that! If the problem is environmental (e.g., plastics), no policy change will make a difference. Personally, I'm skeptical about this.

  • Posted By: CAthinker @ 11/06/2008 12:04:34 AM

    My son went to a play centered preschool program, which was part of a lab program at a national university. When our local elementary school assessed him for kindergarten readiness, they were concerned that he didn't have the appropriate skills to start kindergarten. After conferring with his preschool teachers, we elected to put him into school with his age group. Until 7th grade, his teachers called us in every year to talk about how he wasn't reading early enough, wasn't writing detailed enough, wasn't completing his math facts quickly enough. He is now 16, is taking honors and AP classes and reading 1000 pages a month. As a sophmore, scored withing the range that qualifies 11th graders for the National Merit Scholarship competition.

    To be fair to educators, they invariably have a short term perspective -- one school year to cover everything the state, county, and district mandate. I had three brothers who were late bloomers and I remembered them every time I had a conversation with school. My brothers carried the feeling of "not measuring up" for a long time. I didn't want my son to feel the same way.

  • Posted By: Terryfic @ 10/30/2008 1:15:21 PM

    We are drugging our boys without knowing what the real issues are or looking at the whole picture. I know children who have parents who are not parenting and then when children act out, they take them to the doctor and complain that they are ADD.

    My nephew was put on medication without proper diagnosis and he was like a zombie while on the medication and did not want to take it. It made his parent happy, but not him. After proper testing (brain scan) they discovered he did not have ADD but in the process developed another disorder from the drugs.

    We cannot continue to drug our children and not consider what the outcomes might be. We cannot blame them for reacting to our lack of parenting and reacting to what we put them through. We cannot continue teaching to one style of learning. We cannot allow parents and lay people to diagnose our children and talk doctors into treating something because we are frustrated. We have to look at the whole picture.

  • Posted By: killham @ 09/30/2008 10:19:38 PM

    I believe the pendulum will eventually swing (I hope soon, for the sake of my son and students) but, in the meantime, we parents have to understand our integral role as the major catalysts of change in this realm. Although I love my profession as a teacher, there is no doubt public education tends to be behind the curve in terms of molding educational practice in light of science and hard data. I know not a single teacher who supports NCLB (which is mostly to blame for this rigorous, academic environment) but until parents speak out against it, things will not change. We owe it to our boys and girls to be advocates for learning environments that mold to their natural needs! Even a simple letter to your child's principal, respectfully stating your concerns, would be a step in the right direction.

  • Posted By: Busymomkids @ 09/27/2008 4:11:28 PM

    As a teacher and a mother of four (3 boys & 1 girl) I think our society has lost touch with what is important. It is much easier to blame others. We as a society are great at the blame game...it is always the schools fault, another child's fault or the state's fault. Instead maybe we should take a minute and look at what has changed drastically over time. If we examine our own families we will find the greatest change may be within the walls of our own homes. TV, Electronics, computers have become our babysitters. Both parents have left the home, leaving children home alone or in the arms of another family to be brought up how they see fit. Remember It Takes a Village to Raise a Child. Well, maybe we should take the mayor out of the picture and start raising our own children again! Our families have replaced family time with time traveling in the car from practice or dance or some other activity. We have lost sight of what it is to relax and enjoy our time we have together. We are too busy to spend time fishing, playing games or just talking. Our children are being brought up in a society where they feel like the universe revolves around them. They feel they deserve to be entertained 24/7. Their lives revolve around electonics that entertain them and parents that serve them. Why on earth do we expect them to be able to sit in a chair for 6-7 hours, have manners and respect those around them....it must be the school fault! Or just maybe we shoudl realize WE ARE RESPONSIBLE for this next generation. Let's stop blaming others and plastic (as stated in this article) and start to look in the mirror and address what our children are lacking in their lives. Shut off the TV, computer & video games and enrich your children's lives with your time and presence. Investing in the lives of your family members is the most important job you have here on earth. No one will remember if you made a big sale, or took them to dinner. You children will remember how you chose to spend your time. Invest in our future by investing into the lives of those who look up to you and love you unconditionally.
    There are children that have attention problems and hundreds of other serious problems at school. They sometimes require medications to help better their ability to function in a normal setting. With that said, it is hard to distinguish the children that have problems and children that just have been catered to for they all blend in together. If you sit in on a practice or a classroom you will find that a high percentage of children aren't able to focus, they don't have manners or respect others around them. This is not a problem that can be magically be solved by a prescription, but, I believe it can be solved by bringing back strong family morals and ethics back into the lives of our children. Make the best investment money CAN'T buy invest your time into your family!

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