Struggling School-Age Boys

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  • Posted By: gnsuko @ 09/11/2008 6:56:56 AM

    Not only are children not allowed to be children, boys are not allowed to be boys. I am the mother of five children and three are boys, ages 19, 16, and 15. They are all well adjusted, smart kids, and they are able to control themselves. We did allow them to be boys, however, by letting them have active, physical playtime, wrestle with eachother without beating eachother up, if they turned a stick into a gun, so what. They aren't going to kill anybody. That is what boys do. With the way our culture has been feminized, our poor boys don't know what to do with themselves. Let your children play for a while when they get home from school. They just returned from 8 or more hours of structure. A snack and a few minutes to run around isn't going to affect their intellectual development. Stop overscheduling them with a thousand activities. They wind up quitting everything when they have too much on their plate. The answers are really quite simple and require a little common sense on our part as parents.

  • Posted By: redguns @ 09/11/2008 6:38:29 AM

    I guess it's got nothing at all to do with the politically correct spineless liberals and their emasculation of our entire society. You can be whatever you want to be in this country as long as you suck at it, and manage to not offend anyones' delicate sensibilities along the way...

  • Posted By: srkriston @ 09/11/2008 6:35:28 AM

    Well put. My son 7 years old and one of these boys with difficulties. He is on medication twice a day, once in the morning to get him through the day and a much smaller dose after school to get him through homework. I hate that I have to give him the medication but since he entered Kindergarten two years ago, he has been behavioral problem......for the school and teachers that is. Yes, my son talks a lot and has ample amounts of energy at any given time but when I set aside the time for him to play or just do what he wants, he appears to be like any other 7 year old......happy! Just the other day he came home from school and it was a very nice day outside. He couldn't wait to go play outside. I told him not until his homework was done. He and I sat for 3 hours doing his homework. He had four different assignments to complete and all I wanted to do was give him the answers so he could play. He is in the second grade for heaven's sake and this is how much homework he brings home EVERY day. I didn't give him the answers but he ended up getting to play outside for about 30 minutes before he had to eat dinner, shower and go to bed. He gets so upset about it and then the next morning he tells me that he hates school and doesn't want to go. I really don't blame him. Kids are pushed way too much these days and are not provided enough opportunity to just be kids.

  • Posted By: cyscee @ 09/11/2008 6:02:35 AM

    just the other day while doing my daily exercise I heard someone in the yard playing...it actually caught me off gaurd to hear voices...funny huh...NOONE is ever outside to Just Play. It seems unless there is exercise to be done or time to go to the park (or something secheduled like on memorial day) when does anyone get outside... my daughter and I play frizby, bball pretty regularly, but it didn't hit me till the other day.... where's everybody else? Like llamalover37 said, "better have an extension cord to the Playstation"..... it's too bad that Morally the world is n such a decline as well. Just the other day when my daughter and I were walking (she was on her bike) & ONLY 13 some guys &OLD @ THAT started glaring @ her. I was so repulsed....I didn't know to holla "She's only 13 perverts" or just leave it alone. In this sick world we live in I thought I'd leave it alone see'n how I walk alone sometimes u know. Anyway... if you look @ the prophesies in the Bible, THEY ARE ALL COMING TRUE. The nxt time someone "knocks on your door"... ask questions and look for answers in the Bible... and Listen.

  • Posted By: OigoMiEggo @ 09/11/2008 5:47:38 AM

    This article is a bit disappointing. The cause for the difficulties facing children are due to the education system and the way members of the system uphold education. Teaching to the test is merely a method the education system uses to make it appear as if the population is getting smarter. Of course you'll get better results if you devote all the students' education towards a series of tests used to determine a person's potential. The entire teaching staff would have to be mentally inadequate to fail such a simple goal and method. But that's the fault in the education system. In strictly enforcing test-preparation, the education system cuts out the extracurricular activities possible for students. America will lose much of its potential ingenuity; and thus, scientific power, because students are not taught to (cliche as it is) "think outside the box"; the students will only be taught information deemed important in their examinations. The education system forces to students to think that their series of tests are the only things that matter. There's a whole slew of things that should take higher priority in life than preparing for a test. Teachers that have taught pupils important life lessons and have given students life-changing advice will be replaced by mass-produced lower quality teachers that will only care about the statistical academic performance of their students. Of course, not all teachers will only care about academic performance, but that is what the education system is encouraging. In only teaching students relative to tests that will be given to them in the future, we deny our future the enrichment needed by any person that has shaped America for the better.

  • Posted By: OigoMiEggo @ 09/11/2008 5:47:14 AM

    This article is a bit disappointing. The cause for the difficulties facing children are due to the education system and the way members of the system uphold education. Teaching to the test is merely a method the education system uses to make it appear as if the population is getting smarter. Of course you'll get better results if you devote all the students' education towards a series of tests used to determine a person's potential. The entire teaching staff would have to be mentally inadequate to fail such a simple goal and method. But that's the fault in the education system. In strictly enforcing test-preparation, the education system cuts out the extracurricular activities possible for students. America will lose much of its potential ingenuity; and thus, scientific power, because students are not taught to (cliche as it is) "think outside the box"; the students will only be taught information deemed important in their examinations. The education system forces to students to think that their series of tests are the only things that matter. There's a whole slew of things that should take higher priority in life than preparing for a test. Teachers that have taught pupils important life lessons and have given students life-changing advice will be replaced by mass-produced lower quality teachers that will only care about the statistical academic performance of their students. Of course, not all teachers will only care about academic performance, but that is what the education system is encouraging. In only teaching students relative to tests that will be given to them in the future, we deny our future the enrichment needed by any person that has shaped America for the better.

  • Posted By: Dr. D @ 09/11/2008 5:44:54 AM

    I agree with much of what the author wrote and some of the comments. However, I disagree that boys are disproportionately affected. Boys tend to act out while girls tend to externalize (note: these are trends, not absolutes). So boys therefore are seen as more disruptive and their distress is more likely to come to the attention of adults. Girls are feeling it in other ways. I have to agree that much of these changes has to do with how schools are structured/. But I also agree with the poster who pointed to the changes in TV, music, multimedia, etc. We all know the saying "It takes a village to raise a child." Well as we expand in terms of who comes into our lives via TV, music, the internet, so does our village expand. Too many ne'er-do-wells populate our villages now. That needs to stop.

    To the mom from Switzerland: My husband and I both work and it is NOT to have 3 cars. It is to keep a roof over our head and our lights on! In NYC, it is virtually impossible for a family of 4 to get by on one salary even if you've crossed 6 figures!

  • Posted By: llamalover37 @ 09/11/2008 5:40:51 AM

    I also agree!!!There is no time at all to use there imagination or have a game of baseball in the empty lot across the street!! Unless you can run an extention cord for the playstation!!! To many T.v. channels to much organization!!! Kids boys and girls alike are no allowed to be kids anymore!!!! And don,t evrn get me going on playing and fooling around with siblings!!! That also seems to be a thing of the past!!! We are putting our family lives in second place for the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR is what it al;l comes down too!!! It is all in family time !!!

  • Posted By: swissmac @ 09/11/2008 5:05:01 AM

    i m rom switzerland and its almost the same here, only we dont have prescool starts with the age 6 month, please what can a 6 month are leraning and all the prescool or learningcenter are a ecscuse for the parents its nothing else than a care center, parents work so they can have 3 cars , a bog house etc...but more importend is having a mother at home who cockes playes with the kids, and the kids have to play outside put all the energie they have in playing with dirt( oh no dirt..) yea getting dirty, fight a little boy fight in the sand, hide and seek...etc. education is not everything, look at our world..more suecide, drugs than vere bevor...wonder why?? the world is sick and the world needs a goodly structur..i live in america since 3 years and im shocked about all the way kids grow up here all the activitys...its to much let the kids be kids...and they will be healthy...silvi labovitz pittsburgh

  • Posted By: cyscee @ 09/11/2008 4:48:30 AM

    Personally I feel the problem is not just in the U S, but can be seen and felt worldwide. I really was disappointed in the article because I thought the author was really about to go somewhere when she stated "Look at the way things have been going or changed over the past 10 years"; yeah that's true, but it doesn't have a thing to do with education. THE WHOLE WORLD IS IN DECLINE! Sure they did a survey here or boys, but even the girls report should raise some eyebrows, but seeing how everything else is in such a decline I guess she decided to go with the worse report of the two. Between TV,Movies, and Video games and the lack of moral guidance to choose what is truly healthy for ourselves, let alone our children, this is exactly what you're going to get. Boys are just by nature more aggressive, but add sex,drugs, and all the violence that they are exposed along with the steady decline of parents being good examples for moral guiders, teachers, instructors, and this is the type of report you will continue to get and nevermind it's in the United States; I'm sure all over the world there are similar studies to match.

  • Posted By: dvariest1 @ 09/10/2008 11:16:02 PM

    I have a 9 year old son that is struggling in school. We have tried all type of sources such as a thearpist, a tutor and a school that allows the child to continue to seek help. I am not sure what to do when a school principal gives you a stipulation on what will be done if the child cannot keep up with some of the students. I know my son is not the only boy or should I say child that is struggling at this particular school. What should I do to help my son feel like he belongs instead of moving him from school to school?

    • Posted By: washingtonparent @ 09/11/2008 4:43:28 AM

      Having been through this, my advice is to trust your instincts ??? you know your son and have the greatest interest in his success (this isn???t to say teachers/administrators aren???t invested as well, but they also have to represent the needs of the other students and manage the school, budget, etc.). If you have the time/resources (and you haven???t already), volunteer in his class to see what???s going on. Is he not learning because he???d rather goof around with his friends, or is it because the teacher explains things in an unusual way? Is he bored, overwhelmed, tired, distracted, or? Get as involved as you can and partner with his teacher on alternative ways to address his needs. Talk to your son ??? what does he think is going on? Then find out what his/your rights are under No Child Left Behind and the laws of your state and demand appropriate support from the principal.
      If it comes down to Special Ed, and that label is an issue for you (and I wouldn???t blame anyone for this ??? it???s backward and nauseating IMO) express that concern and ask the school what they plan to do about it. I believe schools are required by law to provide ???disabled??? students with an equal experience as other children and one might argue that the child???s self esteem would factor into that equation (maybe someone else can comment on this). Be tenacious and don???t settle for anything less than the best for your kid.
      For my son (who???s also 9), I explained to him exactly what was going on and why he changed classrooms ??? basically, because he tended to do his own thing (talk, mischief, not do his work) whenever the teacher focused on other kids, which in a classroom of 25+ is a fairly common occurrence. The teacher student ratio in his new classroom is 1:3, which to me is not ???special ed???, rather ???quality ed??? that I???m sure more parents would take advantage of if they had access to it. So far, it???s working well for him and my hope is that this will buy him enough time to mature a little so we can get him back in mainstream classes by middle school.
      As a side note ??? my son???s program is not well known in my district, rarely has openings and I can???t help but wonder if he got a slot because of how much I annoyed/pestered the principal over the years (I bet they have a file on me as well as my kid ???). So don???t budge when it comes time to create an individual education plan ??? there might be terrific resources in your district that you???ve never even heard of.
      Anyway, you???re not alone ??? I hope you can gain some strength in knowing that a lot of other families go through this too. I look at it as an opportunity to make things better for our kids and those that come after them. Hang in there and best of luck!

  • Posted By: cyscee @ 09/11/2008 4:38:55 AM

    I was really disappointed in this articlel; when she said "look @ the society and how it's changed over the last 10yrs" I thought she was about to come at an angle that was pertinent....like LOOK AT THE WHOLE WORLD & the Degradation of Society as a whole. There's no way you can just say that the United States in the only place 'our boys" are being affected. Both genders being 1out of 10 girls should even raise eyebrows but with everything seeming to decline simultaniously I guess she just chose to take the worse of the 2evils. Television, movies, VIDEO GAMES, AND THE LIKE along with the STEADY decline in morals worldwide are becoming more and more evident. Boys may be on the higher# end just because the overall makeup of males is more aggressive and ususally one must admit are more prone to Video games,( which by the way are ALL violence, sex, drugs, etc..) the ones the kids like to play anyway, that just feeds into the already declining social, world problems

  • Posted By: Harveywood @ 09/11/2008 4:18:42 AM

    Well I just wanted tomake one last comment There was another study done several years ago that I read and it general said this. girls will interact socially verbally while boys interact socially with activities. I thik that learnig is te same for them. It was commented earlier that schoold can refuse to educate if parents don't medicate and the parents may not have a choice. i'm not saying that it some cases meds are needed but i am against them if at all possible. The parents always have a choice. They can as one here has said educate the education system or home school or even chanmge to a different school. You need tobe bold enough to stand up an let them know that they arw wrong. That brinbgs up my last point is that we all seem to agree for the most partt on this articla and it is good to discuss it with each other but we also need to educate and let our voices be heard by those who don't understand what we all seem to understand. With the exception of a few. So always speak out against what you think is wrong tothose who we feel are doiong it wrong and have the ability to chanmge it. maybe then slowly it can get bettter. Bythe way my son has spilled something on my keyboard so it is very hard to type on it. I'm really not this bad at typing. LOL

  • Posted By: fishmon8833@aol.com @ 09/11/2008 3:23:43 AM

    I completely diagree with this article. In the USA we don't push education nearly as much (in any area) as we should. Education is the key to unlocking everything. To better our society (and maybe find out why our kids really are turning out this way) maybe we should extend our education a little more (Psychology, Physiology...?). I expect our country to outperform the rest of the world technologically and maintain it's prestige. Don't we all want to continue to brag that we live in the best country in the world? I thought we were elders because we knew what were talking about? We are supposed to tell our children what to do. Some people just don't know how to do it. The only way to work ourselves through our energy chrisis and continue to advance as fast or faster than the rest of the world is by EDUCATION!!! How many of you want our country to lag behind the rest of the world in innovation because our children are being pushed too hard? Cry me a river! Maybe this past generation got off without being educated enough? Did we ever think about that? How many people feed thier children a healthy diet ? Hmmmm I wonder if that has anything to do with attention span? Do some research. This is shallow article and it seems to me that this author is an amateur.

    • Posted By: Harveywood @ 09/11/2008 3:38:22 AM

      The old saying which i beleive to be true is that you canlead a horse to water but you can nto make themdrink should apply here. We do need to make available to our children and our whole society all the tools needed to be the best at what ever they should desire to become but without that dsire it doesn't do any good to teach. I think what this artilce is all about is allowing our sons or children to open up their minds to the massive libraries of knowledge we have. without that we can never teach them. Sometimes it means that weneed tolet them come when they are ready so let them socialize as well and learn when they are ready. That doesn't mean we shouldn't nudge them a little when it is needed but too much nudging cancause a rejection to the whole thought of learning will becoemn negitive to them. I think any teacher will agree they cannotteach a student if the student does not want to learn. So if boys need to get out and be active for anhour then let them so that they can then focuse on the schooling and actually learnsomething. So while I agree that education is very very important we need to do it the correct way and that is what this articla is reall about. It is not about just letting them play and play and play.

    • Posted By: gecko_roman @ 09/11/2008 3:33:02 AM

      what is the purpose of advancing technology much further? so we can brag that "we are the best nation"? thankyou for proving einstein's theory right.... technology has defenitely surpassed humanity. its kinda nice to see someone completely disagree with the article in the way you did, but you should think it through some more, but who am i to judge? to each his/her own.

  • Posted By: LisaWard1957 @ 09/11/2008 3:30:36 AM

    I totally agree with the comment by Sallygirl. As a mother and single parent raising my son who is 15. I have seen this in the public schools here in Arizona and in California. It started before my daughter was born. I worked for a pediatrician at the time and he said we were pushing the kids to hard to fast. Since my husband passed away less than two years ago. It is harder and harder to raise a child as a single parent, yet I would not give it up for the world the pros outway the cons. My son graduated at the very top of his 8th grade class. He had attended the same school since Kindergarten. We were told to medicate him countless times by some idiot teacher's. He has dyslexia and is hyperactive(not disruptive) We had to educate the educators. He carries a 4.5 grade average and is an exceptional student. Thank God for our pediatrician's who agreed with our own diagnosis and taught us how to teach the teachers to teach him. Without the physical activity and the learning about anything he wants( he is a super sponge) so we fill him up with knowledge. He would be a failure in the school systems. But gifted kids are under the same federal laws that protect handicap kids. They have to teach at their level. I have been tempted to go back to work but my son needs me. I have never regretted being a stay at home mom. You get alot of grief from other parents tough. I would rather go without impressing the Jones to finish the job I was given being a mother first and taking a active role in raising my children. It must be working. My daughter is going to college and had a 4.0 all on her own merit. Gifted kids are hard to raise. The same with dyslexic Kids but it can be done. You just never get to rest. We also have always volunteered in their schools and in the community the payoffs are tremendous. I appreciated every teacher who said thank you for being involved in your child's life. I feel why should I not be. I will always be so proud to be their mom. Their dad was proud of being their dad. Thanks for letting me put my two cents in. We need to be involved in their lives and with what they are being taught and be a advocate for them when they cannot be one for themselves. They need us now more than ever.

  • Posted By: eclipticsphere17 @ 09/11/2008 2:11:35 AM

    As a product of this system (two years in preschool, straight A's in all honors and now AP, and sports) I have to say that most guys seem apathetic towards life. Now that I am a sophomore, it is worsening, and the line between scholars and average is becoming more prominent. I am glad that this article was published, although I must admit that I feel school would be more enjoyable if there were more "overachievers". Remember that American pride shouldn't consist of wishing for the good old days, but rather our country???s progression into an even more successful nation.

    • Posted By: gecko_roman @ 09/11/2008 3:25:45 AM

      its not progression if this nation is going the wrong way. "this nation" is a REALLY broad way to look at our social, economic, individual, etc. foundations. theres really no progression or regression as a whole, and thats why we have democracy, which in some aspects is worse then communism but thats another subject. pertaining to the article, i beleive that the individual in relation to society as governed by the educational system needs heavy reformation. the "overacheivers" are progressing like you said, but progression in the wrong direction is not progression. one reason why democracy is worse then communism: a guy like bush can serve 2 terms in office.... as long as more then half our citizens beleive its the right direction, then the remainder have to follow like sheep i guess...

  • Posted By: SgtBeefo0o @ 09/11/2008 3:14:29 AM

    Gender or role the parent has should have little to do with this issue. The main concern is not the child's confusion. The issue is that children are not allowed to be children. There is a large press to have control over kids these days and frankly, parents are blowing things way out of proportion. Rather than letting kids be kids we are medicating them for nothing. We are suppressing their human nature, what their body and minds need. why is it then that we wonder why kids are depressed or misunderstood?

  • Posted By: ladysilk @ 09/11/2008 3:12:17 AM

    It is very interesting to read comments from parents who I will say agree that all starts with good parenting.
    I am a teacher and have been dealing with children for 8 years. I have to say i'm exhausted, mainly because I am trying to teach a child the things he/she should learn at school and also what they should learn at home.
    Parents can't expect us teachers to do all the work, we can't do it, we are burnt out. We need responsible adults to take care of their children and help us educate them. The Government also has to change al the non-sense with the testing and implement a law or something where children are not expected to do all the math-reading-writing, etc. until at least Kindergarten. I started 1st grade at 5 and was never in Kinderg. My mom stayed home until I went to 4th grade. I went to public school and grew up in a US territory. I have a MA from NYU and have never complained about my education. I thanked my parents, teachers and community, all them contributed to my well being. Values and moral were taught at an early age and faith was the base of my family. We all are responsible for educating and nourishing our kids, with more good parenting, faith and a different school system we can change our children and make them whole. No drugs, no testing at early age, more love, more parenting!!!

  • Posted By: gecko_roman @ 09/11/2008 3:07:22 AM

    just the subtitle to this article is an example of how disgusting our society has become... a new study says parents are right to worry about their sons. is a study really necessary!? i think parents know their children much more then a "new study" does. put the opposite way... a new study says parents are WRONG to worry about their sons. both of the statements hold the same meaning... its more statistical garbage. a previous comment was posted that said, "are you (teacher) going to do a project over the summer? then neither is my child!" the greeks had it right... the key is in moderation.

  • Posted By: Ihavheart @ 09/11/2008 2:19:11 AM

    Forgot to mention one thing in my "rant"--yes, it is a rant--this is addressed to parents especially because it starts with YOU: you are the first and most influential shaper of your child's behavior and personality. Be mindful that children copy all that you do and mimic what you say and how you say it...all of the good AND bad things. If parents have a hectic , non-stop lifestyle--or a lackadaisical and largely unmotivated one--children will mirror the effects of it.

    • Posted By: Tracker500 @ 09/11/2008 2:32:34 AM

      You are right that the parents are the main shapers of boys. The problem is we live in a society now where dissolving a marriage is easier than trading in a used car. The kids are generally awarded to the mother, and she is the sole influence in the child's life. Boys and girls are raised the same way by the mother, with no male figure around. As I said in another post, we are raising a generation of girly men. Like it or not, women don't want girly men. This identity crisis is killing our boys.

      • Posted By: Ihavheart @ 09/11/2008 2:52:39 AM

        No, I believe the problem you speak of and the REAL problem are like a mountain and a molehill.
        People are getting married too quickly without getting to know each other, and procreating way too soon.
        People treat the bond of marriage rather casually more often these days, and sometimes it SHOULD be dissovled because it never should have happened in the first place. Also, a man's influence--when that man is a poor example of one for a father --is not the best one for a boy. Some women make better fathers --and tougher ones--then some men because the men proved to be bad at it.

        • Posted By: Tracker500 @ 09/11/2008 3:00:23 AM

          I agree. Most women today make better fathers, and most men make better mothers. No wonder boys are all confused.

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