Struggling School-Age Boys

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  • Posted By: pella2000 @ 09/10/2008 9:52:11 PM

    Finally its not just my kid! I didn't realize there was other boys having this problem. My boy is in 3rd grade and is learning Chinese this year!!! 20 years ago i wasn't learning another language but from my friends who were of a different ethnicity. Hopefully my boy can ahndle it cause it's only getting worse.

  • Posted By: Sgranado @ 09/10/2008 9:52:09 PM

    The problem is we don't let boys be boys. We have gotten so screwed up in our theologies. So what was so wrong with cowboys and indians, what was so wrong with the good guys vs the bad guy. Boys only outlet today is sports, but what about the ones that are not athletically inclinesd. We want boysto behave like girls and they are stuggling to get out of a box that was not made for them. It breaks my heart to see so many boys stuggling and if they excell they are labeled gay, geek, ect. I am concerned where our country will be when the young boys of today become men. We went from one extreme to another, we need to find a balance, but I do not blame our schools, our country's schools rate far below other country's school like Japan for instance, we expect far less than their country from our students. So let's not blame the school, although their is pressure put on students regarding state testing, and let's not blame the parents although in some situations it may be the parents, you can not just slap a label on this situation, it is many factors that are causing the problem with our boys. I just wish I had an answer.

  • Posted By: anitanail @ 09/10/2008 9:52:05 PM

    at the age of 8, my son's school counselor said he might have asperger's syndrome, because he couldn't control his anger issue's, i had him tested at children's hospital and they said the fact that asperger's syndrome was even implied was disquisting,and that there was nothing wrong with him, and in 2nd grade his teacher sent home a piece of paper with a frown face on it, because according to her my son was laughing to much, how in the hell can a child laugh too much, i took this up with his teacher the next day, and she said she read a funny story to the class, and he wouldn't stop laughing, and i let her have it, teacher's now a days want zombie's in their class, i wouldn't be suprised if 80 % of students in one school weren't on medication, and i think they should bann homework all together, every year at the end of school year my son's teacher's hands the class a summer project to do on break, and every year i say the same thing to the teacher's , are you doing a school project over the summer, they say no, and i say neither is my son, that is his time to relax, and i hand it back to them.

  • Posted By: calcaojulie @ 09/10/2008 9:35:02 PM

    Maybe if my son didn't that much homework that he would have time to go fishing, hunting, and play sports. But the grueling 4-5 hours of daily homework is not a life for an 8 year old. Kids don't get to be kids anymore, they are machines waiting to eventually go crazy.

    • Posted By: wakeupamericu @ 09/10/2008 9:51:14 PM

      hey you can learn alot by taking a walk in the fresh air of the country side and the kid might burn off a couple of happy meals ...by accident ....i didnt get that until i went to a remote state college ....and found out just what good old mother nature had to teach me.....my parents shoved pre college courses like calc, chem, trig bio down my throught cuz it is what they thought was best......honest but sad mistake ..... listen to the kid....I wanted something practical that made sense.....luckly i found it on my own ...i now have a great career that puts me in one of the most beautiful places in the country if not the world.......

  • Posted By: lizet84 @ 09/10/2008 9:39:59 PM

    this is ridiculous....the problem is that parents are too f**kin busy for their children these days ....ADHD ..its a hoax! what epidimic! its the pharmaceutical companies out there who are getting all the profit. I have done extensive research on the long term effects of medications that are used to "treat" ADHD. Plus. aren't kids supposed to have energy?? Especially boys?...hence the saying: "boys will be boys", no?

    • Posted By: jules4skiing @ 09/10/2008 9:48:02 PM

      I agree. Studies show that by the time a child/teen is taken off their meds they don't know how to function in society. They have attributed suicides among college kids to their usage of meds for "ADD" or "ADHD"

  • Posted By: i_see_ears @ 09/10/2008 9:47:19 PM

    We can't be mad at school systems pushing our children. There job is to educate and the US is clearly falling behind the rest of the world. I think there are a few things we can do for our children. Physical activity. I don't think we can stress enough how important it is to be physically active. To crash and bang. To climb trees and ride your bike. These are things we all did as a child that today's generation isn't doing. Blame it on video games, television, busy lifestyles, or an unsafe neighborhood, but at the end of the day physical activity feeds our brains development and it needs to be part of a daily routine. So if your two year old is climbing on something, let him climb. We naturally seek that out because our body needs it to develop appropriately. Our lack of physical activity is surely to blame for decreased attention span and increased sensory processing issues. If you have a child with ADHD you might want to consider talking with an Occupational therapist to see if they have any tips on trying to get your child the stimulus they crave in an acceptable manner that helps them become more functional throughout the day.

    Diet is important as well. Balanced diets which include fruits, veggies, grains, dairy, and protein are key. They help our body created the chemicals it needs to regulate attention and mood.

    Lastly, Parents, don't be afraid to be a parent. I meet parents every day that are absolutely wrapped around their child's finger. You should be in charge, not them. It's okay to say no to your child and mean it. When they grow up they are going to have a boss that tells them no...train them to respect others now. If you thought your 2 year old was bad...wait until he's a teenager.

  • Posted By: onekrabbegirl @ 09/10/2008 9:20:11 PM

    My son is now 12 going on 13 and is in 7th grade. They pushed the ADD issue on me when he was in 2nd grade, I had him tested and agreed on a trial basis to take the med...Concerta on its lowest dosage, after about a month it was like a light switch went on. His issue is comprehension. When he reads something he cannot understand what it mean, and when the teacher is in the front of the class trying to teach something he says she reminds him of Charlie Browns teacher...wah wah blah blah and can't really grasph what she is trying to tell him. After starting on Concerta, he did have no appetite, but we worked with it and he eats smaller meals throughout the day instead of one big meal 3 times a day. It is so wonderfule now, he used to sit for hours trying to do about 20 minutes of homework crying in frustration because he could not understand what we were trying to teach him. Now he has his homework done by the time we get hom from work. He is more focused and a much happier child. So I do believe that these kids that act like zombies are either on the wrong medication or to big of a dose. Or could very well have been dianosed. But my daughter is now in 2nd grade and last year they started in about I should have her tested because she is not social enough, but the year before in Kindergarten they said she was to social, so I have to agree on both sides of the debate. I do think there are some teachers who try to label any child out of the normal box they have as problematic and always seem to suggest ADD. My daughter gets straight A's on everything, she is just very high spirited and stubborn, and if there was medication for that, I think all MEN would want us women on it. : )

    • Posted By: Not hiding my head under the sand @ 09/10/2008 9:46:59 PM

      I agree 100%!!!. My son was diagnosed with ADHD when he was 5 years old. After trying to deal with the issues without medication, we finally agreed to give him Strattera in the hopes he would do better in school. His kindergarten teacher typically sent home 5-8 pages of homework every evening and never felt she was demanding too much of a boy his age. He cried every morning before school and had nightmares every night. We finally pulled him from the class and demanded the school make accomdations for hm. Shortly thereafter he started developing tourettes like tics and all medication had to be stopped. He's now is a smaller classroom in 5th grade. He struggles constantly because of the energy he's not allowed to run off. Recess is now reduced to 15 minutes a day, but at least his teacher understands that hours of homework every night isn't productive. Boys need to be boys. They need to run, jump, yell on the playground with their friends and generally act like the children they are. I want my son to succeed as an adult, but not at the expense of his mental health or childhood. Our children are our future and if we don't ease up I feel they'll be the most frustrated unhappy individuals around all at the expense of a title on their office door one day. That's not what I want for my children.

  • Posted By: JoeDoaks @ 09/10/2008 9:44:49 PM

    Enough already with all this ADHD nonsense...Men...Throw away all those ridiculous pills you keep giving your sons and then check out the works of the American poet Robert Blye. Look at his video(s) on YouTube called "A Gathering of Men"... Women.....enough with this sad devotion of trying to badly imitate men in order to parent your male children. When you get surrounded on the playground by a large group of your own sex...and they kick your teeth in...then you will gain wisdom and understanding of what it means to be a boy who must also a man at any given moment in his life. No matter how hard you try and deny these irrefutable differences...this is how things will always be... We are not equal...We are just different. Period.

  • Posted By: cnlle @ 09/10/2008 9:42:28 PM

    Maybe part of the problem is these boys having no real role models, half the world divorced and living in disfunctional at best homes. Educational systems that have pedophiles and criminals around every corner. Mothers working 2-3 jobs to make ends meet, fathers confused about their roles in their childrens lives. TV and movies and video games with violence and sex and music teaching deplorable acts to all our children. Parenting techniques that can't be more than a timeout, or it's determined to be child abuse.
    Sports athletes, and celebrities that get away with breaking the law at every turn.....seriously, why would these children ...boys be confused? What can we possibly be teaching them that is wrong?

  • Posted By: anonimna @ 09/10/2008 9:42:18 PM

    IF YOU ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH YOUR CHILDREN IN SCHOOL PLEASE CONTACT AN EDUCATION EXPERT THAT CAN HELP YOU WORK WITH THE SCHOOL AND THE ISSUES YOUR CHILD HAS.

    www.edmgt.com

  • Posted By: onekrabbegirl @ 09/10/2008 9:34:32 PM

    anonimna.....where did you grow up at? I assume out of the country as you refer to the American way. I have a sister-in law from Korea by marriage, who speaks of how she went to schook from 8 - 5 everyday and 4 hours on saturday and they were only allowed to watch 1 hour of television and that was as a family on Sunday after Dinner. She said it was a miserable child hood. And her parents actually sent her younger sister to the United States to live with her so she could get an american education. So some country's regard the american way as better then their own way.

    • Posted By: anonimna @ 09/10/2008 9:40:51 PM

      Born and lived in several different countries in Europe. I loved my childhood. My school days were from 7:30 to 2:30 5 days a week, but we were required to acctualy learn instead of coloring trough middle school. I had a lot of friends and I never heard geeks or bullyinguntil I came here.

  • Posted By: gornin8 @ 09/10/2008 9:23:57 PM

    parents like to think that they work there @$$'s off to put a roof over their family's head and like to tell kids that they make the money. Well then those people are dumb@$$;s. Kids go to school for 6-8 hours a day, then come home and do about 2 hours of homework. If getting a job as a kid under 16 was legal I'm sure alot more kids would have one. Schools teach main points in subjects and review them. They never teach anything the only real thing they teach is that you have to do alot of pointless work to succeed in life. Homework is what makes kids discouraged and its what makes kids fail. Relize it or not kids as young as 10 are exposed to many things, they curse and talk about things grown ups would talk about. This spreads to everyone leading to bad behavior.

    • Posted By: O.PA.51 @ 09/10/2008 9:33:26 PM

      AMEN;BUT THERE ARE THINGS OUR D@$$ CHILDREN SHOULD LEARN IN SCHOOL

    • Posted By: jstec @ 09/10/2008 9:31:24 PM

      That was about the worst arguement I've ever heard. teacher's don't teach anything real??? Wow, you are the smartest one to come out of your school, are you. And homework is what makes kids fail...you are part of the "It's your fault" generation for sure! We all did homework and were successful in school and life. I played 3 sports, worked a job, and still was an honor student...why, hard work and my parents kicked my butt if I didn't!

  • Posted By: kildare @ 09/10/2008 9:31:31 PM

    Yep, and this kind of thing is why I'm home schooling my son. A family gym class to start the day? Oh yeah! A glass of water while he works? No problem! A snack break? Of course! Math not progressing fast enough? Well, what the heck, let's do a few more pages! Freaking out about pressure to learn? Don't worry, sweetheart, you have plenty of time to learn all of this - we won't rush you, take as long as you need. Oh, and let's not forget the weekly field trip - time spent having *fun* learning about something hands-on.

    Beats the heck out of my husband's parents putting him on Ritalin to cure BOREDOM and an ACTIVE IMAGINATION. (No, it didn't work.)

  • Posted By: anonimna @ 09/10/2008 9:28:06 PM

    Ok I have to disagree with this!! I come from a society where you are supposed to know your multiplication table and read fluently by grade 2!!!! Music or art school after regular school are normal, and where first foreign language is acquired in the 4th grade and second foreign language is started in 6th grade, and third in high school. Physics and Chemistry are studied in 6th grade....when I came here I skiped high school and went to college at 16 because every class in my high school offered i already had before I finished 8th grade.
    American way of living is too fast and puts no priority on children. As long as parents think they are doing their best they think that is good enough. I am a parent of twins and when I see how some people parent their kids I simply can't understand it. I do agree that daycares and preschools at early age probably have something to do with it, but not because of forcing academics but because children are not spending their critcal developing years with their parents but with teachers in daycare that get paid $10 per hour and don't care. And how many mothers breastfeed these days? There is no conicidence that children that were breastfed for six or more months have significantly greater IQs...

  • Posted By: wakeupamericu @ 09/10/2008 9:25:47 PM

    is this some thing new??? I'm 41 and my parents and many of my friends parents felt the same way in 1982,83,,84 etc only then ADHD was called HY-PER-ACT-IVE and ritalin was the anwser, I tured out OK and maybe the problem is that the parents need to be a part of their kids life . stop thinking a pill is the anwser for every thing......take the kid out in the C O U N T R Y ....hunt fish hike .....get him away from the frkkin vidio game and TV set

  • Posted By: Big Mama 1945 @ 09/10/2008 9:18:25 PM

    As a mother of five successful adult children. My feelings have always been. If you teach a child disapline in childhood not only will this child have the disapline to be productive as a child but he will also be a productive member of society. it is the lack there of that has gone arye in our home, schools and streets.
    ADHD used to be called hyperactivity, I had three. Instead of the med.cabinet we should be looking at the foods eaten. The food fed to our children in almost all cases in America is a disgrace whether it is the home or the school. What trash people feed children.
    Free play, exercise, clear there heads, airate their lungs, bed early, makes for good kids that can pay attention in school and to their parents.

  • Posted By: babakaneuch @ 09/10/2008 9:23:52 PM

    I have to say it is nice to know I'm not alone in thinking the school system/parenting in USA is jacked up. Dont get me wrong, my folks are great parents, but I see so many who aren't. I just graduated highschool a couple years ago and I always skipped class to just relax, or else I thought I would drown. I noticed that no matter how many kids (and by kids I mean people) said they didnt want to be forced into specific academies (academy is like a college major, but for a 15 year-old), the system just pushed it on us harder. I never felt i could do anything, because nobody cares what a dumb teenager thinks. We're not human beings anymore, we're just the next generation of things with occupations.

  • Posted By: jstec @ 09/10/2008 9:23:42 PM

    Shel is right. Inside the classroom, just about everything is about engaging the students. I never remember creating any posters, projects, ect. on a daily basis, yet that's what's taking place now. A written test...not as much as doing a webquest, or creating a calender, or a gameboard, ect. That's what's doing on in school's today...it's called differentiated instructions...teaching in front of the class and taking notes??? Nope, not anymore!

  • Posted By: DrRussi @ 09/10/2008 9:12:55 PM

    I have four boys and this is what I see. Compared to when I was a school age child, the schools have become so much more demanding on our kids and their parents as well. When the bell rings at the end of the school day, the work is only half done. Its time for homework, even in kindergarden theres homework. I get some kind of printout from the school or a teacher everyday. Read this, plan for this, sign this, go to the store and buy this, do all this while you are figuring out whats for dinner, washing school clothes, and trying to get your kids to concentrate on homework (after having spent all day on schoolwork already). Where has the family time gone? The schools are sending so much work home for the children and parents they are leaving families with very little time for fun. Children these days are NOT being given time for free play and imagination in school or in society. Everybody is so busy pushing higher standards, working two jobs in poor economy, working at all hours in the modern day open 24/7. Push yourself harder, push the children harder. We need to do it better and faster. Society has become so fast paced with all the rush for the american dollar(which is declining in value by the way) Everything is a competition and so on, I think you get the point. Anyway, all the above causes so much more stress than people had 20 years ago. Children are more stressed out as well as feeling stress around them. More mental health services will not fix what we have let our society become. Society must fix itself and it all begins with each and every one of us. I, for one, have had it with our education system and the fast-paced, cut throat society. We need to slow down and think more about how to alleviate mental stress on our children and ourselves rather than medicate the stress.

    • Posted By: jstec @ 09/10/2008 9:20:17 PM

      Doc, get inside a classroom for a couple of weeks and you will QUICKLY change your mind. It's difficult to get work out of them, and much of this comes from your attitude as a parent. It's clear you don't want to parent. If my homework wasn't done, my parents punished me. If I failed...punished, ect. We are getting lazier and more apathetic, not more demanding. It seems that way b/c we are forced to cover ourselves with parents like you. We have to notify you for everything b/c if not, it's our fault your kid failed!

    • Posted By: Kilganon @ 09/10/2008 9:19:27 PM

      I don't know if my experiences in a classroom are different but I know that in most classrooms the homework assigned at a gradeschool and middleschool level are things the children did not get done in class, and this is mostly because they were not doing what they were supposed to be. As an educator I know this to be true in the schools where I have been.

  • Posted By: cynrunner @ 09/10/2008 9:20:04 PM

    Mother's of girls push them harder to be more educated and support themselves because they themselves want their daugher's lives to be better and more enjoyable than their's were.

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